man this shit sucks dick, it was a different time. fuck all of you /v/irgins and your nostalgia

It was a better time

project epoch launches saturday
we are going home for real this time bro

>>716241983 (OP)
hotbar mmo gameplay isn't very good, I think. it's weird that people played it anyway

I guess it was good enough at dripfeed progression, like cookie clicker, and people's immune systems hadn't been very well tested at that point.

first classic release was good
ultimately ruined by blizzard's laziness in dealing with bots, rmt and cheaters
adding extra shit that wasnt true to vanilla experience
players optimizing the fuck out of it and sucking all the fun out
gdkp

Yes this is not a new opinion. MMOs peaked when they did because they predated social and the eternal septemberization of the broader internet.

I still enjoyed leveling up from 1-60 again when they first released it. The endgame was pretty boring, just like it was originally as well. No MMO has ever has good endgame.

>>716241983 (OP)
first month of classic was pretty good

remember when niggers could not stop larping how DIFFICULT vanilla was? for months, and than when it dropped, everyone realized it was a boring piece of shit walking sim with no real challange at all, so much so that literal new players can play it ironman or "hardcore"

what, you dont enjoy the boost services and bot economy?

>>716242710
Vanilla was and still is a lot more difficult than retail, mobs can barely hurt you in retail. You just AoE them down in droves while outleveling your quest chains unless there is some issue with scaling due to the awful stat squish bullshit they're doing. I actually think they're intentionally making the game shitty so people will pay to skip the leveling.

>>716242193
>first classic release was good
>Honor system with no battlegrounds led to insane world pvp ganking/camping to absolutely degenerate levels like camping flight paths
>no chronoboon, so you had to stay logged out all week to save your worldbuffs
>fucking 6 hour cooldown on dropping ony/nef head, so you had to log in at specific times to get that buff
>black lotus still had default spawns/spawn timers, so flasks were absurdly expensive, you either had to farm as a part time job, or buy gold to afford them
nah, it was shit

>wasnt true to vanilla experience
playing vanilla with 20 years of experience isn't "true to the vanilla experience" to begin with, tardo
>players optimizing the fuck out of it and sucking all the fun out
Oh, you're one of those casualniggers, lmao
"noooo nooo you can't play that way, stop it, that's not fun, you're not having fun, you can't play that way!!!" why are casuals like this

>>716242710
vanilla questing is more difficult in that mobs are a lot stronger compared to you and most classes can only handle one or two at a time, any more and you're fucked
vanilla raiding ins more difficult in that you have to wrangle 39 retards to do their job and not fuck up and then you get 2 pieces of loot for your 40 man raid, have fun

>>716241983 (OP)
It's my first time playing MoP and I'm enjoying it but I do play with irl friends

>>716243247
vanilla is absolute joke for raids wtf are you talking about
u can finish 40 man with 20 EASILY

>>716243393
>vanilla is absolute joke for raids wtf are you talking about
if you're doing it with a bunch of non-retards in a class-stacked raid, yes

>u can finish 40 man with 20 EASILY
easily =/= quickly
have fun in that 5 hour MC

>>716241983 (OP)
>>716242080
>>716242210
Right, it's not 2004 anymore where most people were clueless retards who enjoyed just fucking around instead of racing to endgame.

>>716242265
The extreme focus on raids and instances has been a disaster for the MMO genre.

>>716242172
It was (and kinda still is) fine for MMOs because the focus was player interaction before WoW started trying to target the facebook mom/candy crush audience. Now everything is a menu interaction and you have no real reason to play with anyone for most of the game.

>>716243482
>literal one mechanic you need to look out for
brother vanilla is for morons

>>716243158
I feel like casualfags in WoW are another type of vegan like pic related
>I wanna optimize my gameplay and play better!
>YOU MUST FLAIL AROUND LIKE A RETARD AND HAVE BOOMKINS AND PALADIN TANKS IN YOUR RAID

>>716243657
>og vanilla
>casuals only
>good game

>classic
>same game except with minmaxing autists
>terrible game
hmm

>>716243902
>"same game"
except it's not
the playerbase has 20 years of knowledge to look over and we're playing on the final patch and there's new shit like layering that wasn't in the original
shoo, casualvegan

>>716243902
Classic was only terrible if you were a casualnigger obsessed with trying to dictate how other people play the game.

>>716244035
the autists are the ones analyzing 20 yearsbof knowledge and casualchads are leveling their dwarf hunters with their bear pet

>>716244307
>>716243158
yeah, its totally the game's fault you're obsessing over dps numbers so hard you pay for chang's mortgage so you clear mc 1,7 seconds faster with the flask

>>716242172
>hotbar mmo gameplay isn't very good
As opposed to what other kind of MMO gameplay?

>>716241983 (OP)
Go do the floss dance you broccoli-haired faggot

>>716243657
And it's always the same clockwork line.
>n-n-no you're sucking le fun out of le game!
Bitch, who are you to decide what is and is not "fun" ? Are other people not allowed to play in ways YOU don't like? Do you only ever play videogames in the explicitly "dev intended" way and never do anything else?
Casuals were a mistake.

>>716243657
Was literally made for casuals too stupid to play other MMOs. I will never not laugh at how you retards trick yourselves into thinking you're some hardcore badasses for meta-gaming in a baby game.

Playing with a controller is all the rape. Fuck arthritis and carpal tunnel syndrome.

>>716244889
the saddest part about the dps meter obsessed neckbeards is that 99% of them are completely useless in pvp even in the game they devote their life to, let alone other actually competitive vidya

>>716244993
using a controller for too long is literally what gave me wrist / thumb pain on the right hand for the past week
look up "gamer's thumb"

>i definitely will listen to melancholic nostalgic 35+ year old manchildren talking about a game they played in 2006 and really truly believe them that this game is worth a single shit in current year
you have only yourself to blame. do you stop and listen to every raving lunatic homeless crackhead you see outside too?

>>716245086
Yep. Those fags will whine and whine about "muh casuals", but cry like bitches if a PvPer camps their faggot asses.

>>716245497
I play with controllers all the time and never had this. I use gamesir nova, pretty comfy.

>>716244993 HAHAHAH ABSOLUTE STATE OF POOLIANCE PLAYER HAHAHAHSAHHASHASHSA
no wonder why you faggots always cry to gms and mods to remove rogue gankers when you are literally disabled

Classic was good for about two weeks before everyone either hit max level or called it quits after getting a sufficient nostalgia injection. Without a steady stream of new people joining the game the open world died and the dungeon scene turned into Boost City.

>>716245924
Don't talk shit about things you don't understand, it's embarrassing.

>>716245868
chances are you're still in your 20s
either way, keep up the repetitive strenuous hand movements and you'll experience pain the same as anybody else
the whole cope of
>m-m-MUH NEVER HAPPENED TO ME
isn't going to work forever

>>716246627
I started getting arthritis/carpal in my keyboard hand/wrist as I hit around level 21 on my warlock, and I don't play any other game with kbm. I'm 30 and been playing with controllers since before you were born.

>>716244993
Chad

>>716241983 (OP)
i want a new kind of boost

get to 20, automatically boost to 50

>>716243482
5 hour to clear a raid is still nothing compared to retail where people take weeks to prog one boss
Classic is a joke