>Ruins your otherwise perfect fighting game forever

>>716250642 (OP)
At least he looks cooler than Zero.

The community unironically fixed that by hosting ratio tournaments

>>716250642 (OP)
Half the roster being capeshit was the first thing that stopped it from being perfect.

>I didn't snap in the anchor character who has zero ability to escape incoming mixups, and now I'm losing to xfactor, how could this happen to me?

zero is better. morrigan is better. doom is better. you can argue vergil is easier but he's also objectively more flawed

I think MVC3 has a bigger problem than Vergil, Vergil just abuses this broken mechanic quite well.

>>716250946
No idea what you expected from a Marvel vs Capcom game

>>716250642 (OP)
he's coming back in MvC4 if the Dan Southworth thing turns out to not be DmC3 related

Zero and Morrigan are worse.

Yes Vergil can just evaporate a team with level 3 XFactor solo but so can most top tiers. Virgil just does it better, get gud. Zero's lightning loops and Morrigan's soul fist spam were a bigger detriment to the game overall than Virgil.

>>716250642 (OP)
I don’t know, I thought he was pretty neat.

>the flames of revenge? Couldn't even melt a marshmell-
>AIEEEEE NO NOT THE 2 FRAME SNAPBACKERINO

>>716251216
>still believing in MVC4 when Marvel has dictated that Arcsys is the superior normalfag developer nowadays

>>716253130
>not believing in the leak
>not thinking there's money on the table for Marvel to collect with Capcom and thinking there's FG dev business melodrama instead

>>716250642 (OP)
It's trash.

Wipe it back out safely.

>>716250642 (OP)
>This dude slices the ENTIRE game roster into 36 sashimis pieces and give you this look.

>>716250642 (OP)
>otherwise perfect fighting game
lol no

X Factor is too strong (although Vergil is the prime abuser alongside Phoenix)

Too many characters that are subpar to bad.

TAC infinites

Morridoom

On a technical side, frame drops on console

This is a fuckin' video about a corny fuck of a brother of mine named Dante
WORTHLESSNESS DANTE, WORTHLESSNESS.
Get your broke, bumass, non-Japanese sword using ass out of my team! Yeah, that's right, I am talking about steel folded 1000 times! On top of that, I can be put in any position in a 3 character team but your bitchass only works last. And that's what you'll always end up in this blue trapped bubble. Last.
Yamato, carve this nigga skull up for me.

BIONIC
ARM

>>716255484
based

>>716255617
YOU FIND THIS MAN

>>716250642 (OP)
Zero is a bigger faggot

I'VE FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT FIGHTING THEN YOU'LL EVER KNOW

>>716250642 (OP)
Get rid of
>Zero loops specifically
>Astral vision
and gut Vergil.
>>716250778
This is true, though. And when it goes to regular Mahvel, pools > top 8

>>716255484
hearty kek

any idea who the brunette and blond is that's cut off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVcIZ745ZtA

>>716253607
>wanting to play a a nu mavel as Shani Panther, Mr Pascal and Robert Downey Doom

>>716250642 (OP)
>Zero
>Doctor Doom
>Morrigan

>>716259269
>shani
you mean shuri?
female BP is assuming Capcom doesn't tell disney to fuck off with MCU demands this time. ArcSys is doing a nice job of that so far with the exception of Ms. forgettable paki. It would be a shame since BP's moveset seemed unfinished in Infinite.
>Mr Pascal and Robert Downey Doom
that's only if Disney or Capcom pay to use their likenesses and plan to show DOOMs face in story mode or whatever, which like every other Marvel game would instead be a mix of comic and movie face.

>>716251216
Fuck Marvel, Give Us Sega vs Capcom. It's been long overdue.

>people will look at Dix and think "ah yes, I want these people to make another Marvel vs Capcom game"
I don't understand.

>>716250642 (OP)
i dont recall him being in super turbo

>>716261860

>Dormammu
>phoenix
>Arthur
Caused so much ass pain in those years, shit was golden.

>>716259085
marvel 3 cinematics rocked so fucking hard. truly better times.

>>716254725
>Too many characters that are subpar to bad.
xfactor and tac infinites are why these characters are played at all, compare it with mvc2 and mvci where those games suffer even more from every other player running the exact same team

OH IT'S ON NOW

>>716264764
based novaposter

>tfw 9 days until kbrad gets bopped for $5k
https://x.com/KBradJStorm/status/1926883664698191947

>>716250642 (OP)
will tokon fix mvc

>>716250642 (OP)
>perfect
>the same fucking game with Phoenix and Sentinel if we count base MVC3
>perfect

If UMvC3 tournaments banned doom, virgil, morrigan, zero, and possibly dante then you'd see an interesting meta again.

>>716267954
they should just make ratio the primary competitive format

>>716268035
It would solve a lot of problems

>>716250642 (OP)
X factor should have been nerfed in the following way
>X FACTOR functions as it does now, but has no damage, speed, or healing boost.
>Selecting an alpha assist provides 1/3rd of the previous damage boost
>selecting a beta assist provides 1/3rd or the previous speed boost
>selecting a gamma assist provides 1/3rd of the previous healing boost
then shuffle good assists around so that they aren't all damage/speed. Like hidden missiles should have to be gamma.

>>716264764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkPL1MT7g80

This is my favorite special move and fighting game character of all time. The insomniac spider-man games suck ass. THIS is the true incarnation of Peter Parker in vidya form.

>>716268481
is that numpad notation? AIEEEEE HELP ME ANIME GODS

>>716267954
until the new top tiers emerge and the meta is "boring" again

>>716269204
this is why ratio is great
if that happens you can just tweak the ratios

>vergil
>not zero
>not doom

Retard

>>716268481
SEE YA LATER

>>716250642 (OP)
bump

>>716268035
Capcom could also balance patch the game along with rollback. They have 14 years of game data to to weave through and it's not like it's as much of a sacred cow to change as MvC2..

>>716276759
Ehh, I wouldn't mind seeing them try but it would be really divisive no matter how well they did and there's absolutely no guarantee they do a good job
The game is really fun already as is, unbalanced mess and all, even the shitty characters are mostly cool and fun to play they just can't really compete with the top tiers when played optimally, and the scene is small enough at this point that just a few guys playing the best teams can make shit really stale
Ratio is a nice solution because it doesn't fuck up either the good characters with nerfs of the bad characters with buffs that might make them less fun despite being stronger but still makes every character valuable, because suddenly you have to care about low tier + high tier synergies and shit.

>>716250642 (OP)
>UMVC3
>perfect
It's broken as shit and could really deserve a balance patch but I still like it a lot.

RONERY
RONER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2AO_8ViOA8

Since marvel 4 will never actually happen, who will be the "vergil" of marvel tokon?
There's plenty of sword people but who actually instills the fear of it like vergil xfactor lvl 3?

>>716250642 (OP)
I like that the entire game is blatantly broken.
Tournamentfags can go and soap up the rope.

FOOT-
FOOT-
FOOT DIVE
FOOT-
FOOT DIVE

>>716250642 (OP)
>powerlevel accurate

>>716268481
>scams you out of your x-factor activation by swinging across the screen for ten seconds
How do you respond without sounding mad?

I played this game for 7 years and I wouldn't change anything about it except to add rollback or another type of better netcode

>>716266307

I'm trying to find someone to side bet with. I got 100 on iDom

>>716251016

>>716251074
>how to fix broken mvc2 when your team is down to the last man
>here both players are given nukes, whoever uses it first loses

>>716281048

>>716250946
Shut the FUCK up Woolie.
>>716251016
>he thinks having good defense is what makes a good character in MVC3
You literally don't understand this game.

>>716281048
I think it's hilarious how you can watch seasoned players with thousands of hours in this game still get caught by raw footdives.

>>716257241
just play community mod
too bad they only run legit mahvel side tournies

>>716261787
I will accept this ONLY if they make Sonic the face of the company for the game. They didn't do this for the Project X Zone series because they thought animals would look weird, which is fucking retarded.

>>716267954
ah yes "interesting"
mag/doom shell v nova/spencer/doom
https://youtu.be/FMP67Xaeo3A?t=7300

>>716280293
>marvel 4 will never actually happen
it's chances have never been better up to this point between the collection, the SF6 director being a comic book nut, and whatever this >>716257704 implies, but to answer your question, weeb Blade from his anime potentially
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOdgRxxapGw

>>716251074
X-Factor is absolutely fucking retarded, yes.
The fact that it can be used LITERALLY at any moment except while getting hit is the worst part, it would be slightly less retarded if they took that part out.

>>716267954
Doom is honestly the least offensive one. He just has good movement and combos.

>>716281595
If sega v capcom ever got made and the centre fight isn't Sonic v Megaman X than someone in marking needs to get fired

>>716281632
>xf
>counter xf
whoa... difficult...

>>716281707
Fuck off retard.

>>716281662
>good movement
>in place wavedash

>>716250642 (OP)
SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST

>a full gallery of RE Engine'd abominations
>shitty Soundcloud-tier music
>some kind of gay universal mechanics that will allow mashers to fraud out wins from better players
>predatory monetization
>shitty roster because of MCU pandering
These are all things we can expect from a hypothetical MvC 4 made today by """Capcom"""
Remind me again -why- people want this, exactly?

>>716281610
perfect and since it's already weeb they don't need to change a thing
give him a helm breaker too

>uncapcom's your marvel

>>716282005
>shitty roster because of MCU pandering
anon you realize a lot of the mvc3 choices were already this because future promotion (rocket, doctor strange, iron fist)
like people already forgot how these guys were not household names before

Vergil SHOULD be broken

>>716282687
And yet, in MvC 3 Thor does not look like Chris Hemsworth, or Dr Strange like Benedict Cumber-whatever.
You just know that in this era of face/body scanning this whole thing would be turned up to 11 and be extra lame.

>>716282687
>future promotion
Yeah, they were promoting movies that hadn't even been concepted yet with depictions that are nothing like their movie counterparts, definitely. Couldn't just be that they thought these characters were cool and could make a unique fighter.

>>716283274
>couldn't just be that they thought these characters were cool and could make a unique fighter
are you this naive? holy shit how old are you?
you really think marvel would lend out their IP for shits and giggles, like they go "what's up capcom, bro just pick whoever you want we got you"
they plan production of movies/shows many many years ahead, they might not have to match the visuals exactly but when it comes to their characters there is a clear "do this or you can't use them"

>>716282005
>a full gallery of RE Engine'd abominations
if they wanted to make it with the generic RE engine look they would have shat it out already imo. My guess is they are saving the REX engine for it.
>shitty Soundcloud-tier music
if the CAP-JAM remixes in the collection are any indication, i'm not worried about this
>some kind of gay universal mechanics that will allow mashers to fraud out wins from better players
couldn't be any worse than X-Factor. I personally want to see 3-character variable cross.
>predatory monetization
this would suck if it's repeat of SF6 but there's a couple of directions Capcom could go to distinguish itself from Tokon; that being relegated to only PS5 and PC actually helps MvC4. I'd be interested to see if it goes full reboot and F2P and use Capcom ID but link a Marvel account or something for shit like bonus xp
>shitty roster because of MCU pandering
to be fair characters that just happen to be MCU'd also happen to be most deserving to be in MvC like Punisher and Daredevil. If every comic book character comes to the mcu, the lines would be blurred for who should be favored by Capcom. The real worry is how much the aesthetic would be influenced from MCU. This can go into how much a repeat of Infinite would Capcom be dumb enough to try and replicate.

>>716281142
oh man
>my spider-man team
>fighting a dark phoenix team
>kill his first 2 guys but he gets level 5
>I already used x-factor so I can't instakill dark phoenix
>activate super runaway and just web swing around for like 3 minutes until time over
>get hatemail
I miss the ps3/xbox days

>>716283678
>The real worry is how much the aesthetic would be influenced from MCU
Yeah, the character choice is less of a problem than the presentation, I agree.
Capcom very clearly favors realism now and I find that both incredibly bland and incredibly ugly at the same time. RE Engine or REX Engine or whatever, I don't trust them to make a good looking game today.

>>716283678
Hopefully they take a hint from both Tokon and Rivals and decide to keep it stylized.
I also cant imagine an un-stylized Bonne or Joe

What's your ratio team /v/?
For me its >viper/chun/dante

>>716250642 (OP)
Is this blue Dante?

>>716286056
>Dante
You mean red Vergil?

>>716284736
I wonder if MvC could be the exception to the realism route since Infinite already tried that and got shitted on for it. There's probably only a few people in existence who wouldn't want MvC4 to have a coloful comic book look again.
Capcom still has access to MvC OGs like the Venom guy who they showed in a promo vid for the collection. Plus they still have my Bengus wengus working there.
>>716285749
ArcSys being encouraged by Marvel Games to go for an anime look is a good sign because it likely means MCU influence towards its aesthetic from higher ups could not usurp Marvel Games authority Things likely don't work the same way back in 2016.

>>716286015
Wolv/Arthur/Akuma
Keep the change.

vergil is strong but morrigan getting meter with astral fireball spam literally breaks the game.

>>716286015
>X-23 (my beloved)
>Wolverine
>Sentinel

>>716286015
Hmm spider-man, taskmaster, dormammu maybe though I cant remember how spider-man exactly uses dark hole assist

>>716286520
She (and I cannot stress this enough) needs it.

>>716281384
nobody runs point vergil, if you can't escape an incoming you don't get to play. if you lose to vergil it is LITERALLY your fault

>power of the cre-power of-power of-

i just realized that when i played MvC with friends back in the day - all of us were in it just for the capcom characters, and couldnt give a lesser shit about marvel ones, save for maybe Doom for me because of the FOOTDIVE meme.
A Capcom all-star fighting game in the vein of it would be a nice thing to have if MvC is confined to Arcsys now.

>>716287478
>Gene's last real chance of getting into a fighting game is gone
I fucking hate this...

>>716250642 (OP)
>combofiend always coming back from a pixel
>jwong Iron fist
>apologyman with his Firebrand gimmick squad
>everyone hating chrisg and fchamp
MAHVEL peaked here :(

>>716287863
Yipes practically screaming with joy over fchamp getting curbstomped for acting like a faggot is a top 5 FGC moment.

>>716287863
I still enjoy TNS. My man StaticGorilla getting into finals only to drop every combo imaginable, Ramora with the tightest 1F return to character select possible, Eccentric the only Phoenix player you can watch without falling asleep, Kennybo representing X-23 and winning no games with her lmao.
Good stuff.

>>716287863
Don't forget
>HE BROKE THE CAGE
>HE BROKE THE CAGE
>HE BROKE THE FUCKING CAGE

>>716287971
As gay as FChamp was, I always liked watching him play
You can't even have villains anymore, that's not on brand

>>716287863
>>716287971
KANE BLUERIVER WOW
WE ARE THE WOOOOOOOOORLD
WE ARE THE CHILDREEEEEEEEN

>>716288058
Oh I'll at least give FChamp the fact that it seems he mostly kept it as trash talk and wasn't actively a terrible person like Infiltration or 99% of the GG players now.

>>716288142
>Infiltration
What did he do?

>>716288158
Got accused as a wife beater but it seems more like he and his wife at the time were mutually abusive to each other which resulted in some court case. It's why he got in trouble for sneaking into an event a year or two ago.

>>716288058
you can't have villains who barely actually do anything besides trash
so it's perfectly fine for noel brown to walk around free at FGC events even though he punched a guy with a cast on stream and slapped a girl's ass

>>716288082
Can he come back?
HELL NO, HE SUCKS

>>716288229
Didn't he get acquitted and she was literally crying over him holding her hand too tight once?

>>716287851
Trust the plan

>>716288248
Well, FChamp was also good enough to make it to top 8 reliably, so his trash talk wasn't just empty, he was also dangerous
Which made him VERY entertaining whenever he went up
I'm mostly talking about that stuff, not people getting banned for gay shit

>>716288291
Like I said his wife was batshit but there was solid evidence he was a piece of shit too but from memory he got acquitted because his wife was making shit WAY worse than it was while also actively stealing from him and breaking his shit. Point being both Infiltration and his wife should be taking out back and shot.

>>716288036
Are you talking about Mike "Mike Ross" Ross?

>>716251074
Yeah seriously this mechanic was straight up bullshit. I am surprised that the mahvel community accepted it.

>>716288248
FGC is almost the polar opposite of the Smash community right now where they banned a guy for being a jew and posting some spicy takes online but they refuse to do shit about guys actively threatening other players including another guy that threatened to kill the jew jej. Meanwhile you're likely to get banned from the FGC if you give someone a dirty look after losing a set.

>>716288505
I mean he does look the part.

>>716288549
>guy does x-factor
>I block one of their moves, guard cancel and kill him with my own x-factor
its fair

>>716288682
Koreans, man. Absolutely insane fucking hellhole of a nation.

>>716288549
>I am surprised that the mahvel community accepted it.
It's because some characters only work in X-Factor 3 like Shulk or X-23.

>>716250642 (OP)
People got better at dealing with him, you can't just rely on Dark Vergil unga bunga comebacks anymore. Nowadays, Zero, Morrigan and Phoenix are considered to be the top 3 characters because of their own bullshit.

>>716288549
they accepted it because it had been 11 years since MvC2 and it was either run with it or run with TvC for the foreseeable future.
This is another reason why i'm not sure why people think a new MvC after Tokon clears is an impossibility. Marvel players are used to waiting a long ass time for a new game, why would that change now?

>>716250642 (OP)
>DMC 3 : Dante vs Vergil
>DMC 4 : Featuring Vergil's son
>DMC 5 : Vergil return
This mofo ruined DMC and turned it into the Vergil show.

>>716288682
He doesn't even play vidya anymore. He's a right wing content creator now but for Korean politics.

>>716291217
Holy shit what? Links? Anything in English? I remember when he sold fightsticks.

>>716287136
Wafku????

>>716291254
Here's his channel. All his content is on Korean since I think he's done with the FGC and getting a global audience. Might be some Youtube auto translate on the videos. Honestly though, it seems like pretty boring stuff, mostly local politics and news stories in Korea. Nothing inflamatory or ragebaity like American politics.
https://www.youtube.com/@INFILTRATION85/videos

>>716291418
Man that's sad. Or maybe it isn't, I don't know what makes him happy. But it's sad to no longer see him play, at least for me. Korea really is a strange country.

>>716291593
He was banned from all FGC events and the majority of people believe the misinformation and think he's some wife beater. If you want someone to blame, blame faggots like Ultradavid who kept pushing for a FGC "code of conduct" and willingly pushed the narrative that he was abusive and shouldn't be allowed at events because it hurts the brand.

>>716292063
>He was banned from all FGC events and the majority of people believe the misinformation and think he's some wife beater.
This shit drives me up the wall. And wasn't Ultradavid exposed as a literal pedo?

>>716288287
CHARGE THAT ASS

>>716292143
Are you thinking of Mr. Wizard? The former EVO owner? He got caught asking little boys for dick pics and thats why EVO is now owned by Snoy and Pokimane