This shit gud? Last one I played was blood money.

>>716293347 (OP)
Stardock tier exploitative pricing and Destiny tier limited availability of some missions.

>>716293347 (OP)
It's good, but it's very handholdy and there's XP collectathon crap

They have a free launcher/demo thing with 2 fully functional maps. Go see if you can milk hours out of those 2 maps. If they don't hook you it's probably not worth spending money on the rest, it's all the same sandbox gameplay but in different locations.

>>716293347 (OP)
It's great but also very different from previous Hitman games. Levels are supposed to be replayed multiple times.

>>716293347 (OP)
It’s good, really good. I put nearly a thousand hours into this trilogy and have almost all of the unlockables.

Worst thing for new players is that the best unlockables are easily claimed by people who played since Hitman 2016 then moved their progress to Hitman 2 and then 3. For new players, though? You have to grind escalations, like, up to 70 of 3-stage missions that increase in difficulty on multiple instances. This makes it very grindy if you really want to have a certain suit or piece of equipment.

>>716293347 (OP)
I bought it on Xbox for 3 dollars via an Argentina key. It's fun.

it's one of the best games ever made however
>>716293610 is very true. depends how much you can tolerate that bullshit

>>716293347 (OP)
>play with handholding
>too easy
>disable assists
>takes forever to find just one mission route because the maps are super huge
it's just too bloated. blood money is still peak..

>>716296384
Creativity just isn't your thing.

>>716293347 (OP)
Mechanics are just alright, easily the best maps in the hitman series.

>>716293347 (OP)
It’s easily the best game in the franchise from a gameplay and content perspective.

>>716293347 (OP)
It's good, make sure you get whatever package includes the levels from the entire trilogy

>>716296687
>best game in the franchise from a gameplay perspective
The presence of enforcers broke the traditional Hitman gameplay that used to be about planning routes using disguises, and turned it into sneak-stealth that let's you cheese some areas with disguises

It has a fuck ton of content if you get the edition that has shit from 1, 2 and 3. The freelancer is also a pretty fun mode, if not somewhat grindy.

>>716293347 (OP)
Yes it's fantastic, but it also has online only progression so you cant make progress without being online.

>>716297353
Enforcers are a necessary nerf to disguises that keeps disguises useful without resorting to a 2SA situation where guards shoot at you for running. Enforcers are also easy to get around as long as you don’t stay in their line of sight for too long.

>>716293347 (OP)
just pirate it, don't give that shitty company any money after the shit they're pulling.
otherwise game is pretty good.

>>716298140
>peacock project
thank me later, anon.

>>716293610
>limited availability of some missions

>>716299009
Tbf, the only limited availability missions are Elusive Targets that have licensing issues with celebrity likenesses and also the Connor McGregor target that got pulled after he got charged with rape.

Still, most of the celebrity ET missions are mid compared to the proper missions and freelancer. The Jean Claude Van Dam ET is the only celebrity ET that’s actually a genuinely great mission rather than just an okay mission.

>>716298942
Fan projects don't suddenly.make dogshit design decisions good.

base game + deluxe pack + hitman 2 expansion is all you need for all the worthwhile content. probably like $30 max right now.

>>716300392
no one defended design decisions, retard.

>>716296593
I want to agree but when I played there was some mission where I had to fund a key and it was basically pixel hunting in a huge fucking area. Turning off the assist is like the game having a tantrum and telling you to go fuck yourself.

>>716293610
>>716299009
Just install Peacock if you are on PC.

i have like 500 hours or something across the trilogy. amazing game but you need a brain, a sense of humour and some ability to create your own fun sometimes, it's as much a sandbox as it is a campaign. freelancer mode is great if you're 100% goal oriented though, and there's the challenges. point is, if all you do is grab a sniper, shoot the target the second you see him and exit the level, you're missing the point

>>716293347 (OP)
Amazing game. The only instance I can think of where a series got new entries after years, after getting dumbed down previously, and they not only live up to the originals but massively improve on them. Blood Money feels like a proof of concept demo for the new games when trying to replay it.

The only real issue is limited time availability for some extra missions and being always online. The base games are more than worth the money and the extra missions are just quick novelties on the same maps anyway so I wouldn't really consider it a reason to not buy outside of pure principle, even if you couldn't just download Peacock to play offline with every mission. And on principle I think shifting gears from Absolution and making a genuinely great game makes up for it.

>>716293347 (OP)
Freelancer is a lot of fun because it gives you more to do and the stakes are higher. Kind of like a roguelite Hitman.

I liked the singleplayer but I disliked running through a map to kill my target with 20 different tools and then reload 20 times just to get le heckin cheevos. I knew who it was, what they did, where they were all the time.

But in Freelancer you might get the toilet cleaning lady or a pajeet sitting on the roof in the slums.

It also leaves you room for higher risk plays (like SASO) for higher cash and exp rewards.

I really liked it.

It’s shit. Blood Money will never be topped. Ignore everyone who says it’s good.

>>716305223
bm is overrated as fk. cool game for the time but worse in almost every way than the modern games. the only reasons to check it out are the general vibe, the music, and historical interest in the series

>>716296384
>takes forever to find just one mission route because the maps are super huge
Exploring the maps is the fun part, retard

>>716305223
HITMAN literally just improves upon every mechanic of BM, it got rid of the infinite coins and don't act like you ever took a human shield beyond the tutorial level.
The only thing I can accept is the blood pools, but seeing how they removed separate camera circuits around Sapienza, they probably wouldn't have lasted anyway.

>>716306806
nu-Hitman is worse for being a live service slop that has the most predatory monetization in a single player game.
BM is a finished experience that doesn't try to nickle and dime you with every re-re-release.

>>716306984
>has the most predatory monetization in a single player game
I've only ever played it offline, but as far as I can tell they just have rotating time limited missions? There's no infinite spend MTX like many single player games now have.

>>716306984
We are talking about the mechanics though you fucking retard.
Though I think everyone agrees that the always online bullshit is retarded, and when I participated in the surveys I wrote that every single time.
Eventually I didn't get any surveys anymore lol

>>716307129
In my case I literally have to buy the whole game again if I want to play the Hitman 3 maps.
I have Hitman 1/2 with all DLC and there's no option to upgrade.
Fuck IO and every bootlicker supporting them.

>>716307264
worked on my machine

it's preddy gud
shockingly they began adding NEW Elusive Targets. Two new and yet-revealed targets coming up...probably 007-related, or so i'd guess

>>716307264
>there's no option to upgrade
There was when Hitman III originally came out.
Hitman I and II are now included in World of Assassination (III) for free for the price of Hitman III, whereas before you paid extra if you didn't already own the previous games.

>>716293347 (OP)
hell yeah, maps are huge, game runs well
make sure to turn off "story mode", map, x-ray spider senses and all other handholding

>>716307445
Fuck you. Lick that boot real good so you can take it right up your ass.

It's fun and comfy.

>>716307445
>There was when Hitman III originally came out.
Huh? I only got 3 some time after it was released on Steam and I have everything.

>>716307615
World of Assassination (Hitman III renamed and changed 2 years after release) now includes Hitman I and II (but not the expansion for II) by default unless you only buy Part I in which case it doesn't include anything from II or III

>>716307264
that's not how it works, you just pay for hitman 3 and it has the maps from 1 and 2

>>716293347 (OP)
Questionable practices of IOI aside, WoA is a genuinely great and unique game

>>716307796
I paid for 1 and 2 already. I don't care if it's "free" in 3, I deserve a fucking discount of at least 66% off because I have 2/3s the content already.

>>716307924
>I deserve a fucking discount of at least 66% off because I have 2/3s the content already.
You buy game 3 and get game 3. Why should you get a discount on content you don't actually own? Are you fucking retarded?

>>716308005
Because I'm mad that other people who didn't support the devs for 10 years suddenly get stuff for free. LICK. THAT. FUCKING. BOOT.

>>716307924
>I have 2/3s the content already
no you don't, you have 0% of the content because you don't own hm3, you own 1 and 2. the only reason 1 and 2 maps are in 3 is to consolidate progress/cosmetics/challenges etc and freelancer mode and so you only need 1 game installed.

>>716308005
Not him, but you can't play 1/2 levels in World of Assassination even if you own the previous games retard.

>>716293347 (OP)
Last good Hitman game was Absolution.

>>716308575
>you can't play 1/2 levels in World of Assassination even if you own the previous games retard
Yes you can. They're included with the WoA for free regardless of if you previously owned the games, whereas when 3 came out, you could only play the levels in 3 if you owned the previous games.
You still only pay for 3.

I like WoA a lot and the levels. Very disappointed in IOI though over their current content model; I don't care about freelancer or a million different cosmetics.
Where are the fresh maps with new stories?

>>716299336
The new mads mikkelson one is good too, but the way that's the most rewarding to play it (playing the game, getting poisoned, etc) is only really fun the one time.
Excited for that co-op mode they're planning to add.

>>716308732
The only way to play them is to buy them all again with WoA.
Previous purchasers got fucked with no lube.

>>716293610
>Stardock tier exploitative pricing

Nah, just buy deluxe edition on sale and youre fine.

>Destiny tier limited availability of some missions.

You get the missions for free for a limited time but if you pay you get them permanently.

>>716308850
aren't they officially done with hitman series and moving on to 007 live service slop?
the way I see it, hitman for them was a testbed for live service things they can get away with and wanted to make james bond slop all along.

>>716309080
nah theyre still updating WoA with new stuff.

theyre even hiring new people for ET's

>>716308893
>Excited for that co-op mode they're planning to add.
Why? It looks like shit.

>>716309123
but like the story is over, right?
now they're just going to drip feed you with elusive targets.

>>716309123
ET is not really the most Hitman though? It's just Twitch/Youtube-bait and for completionists. It's not at all the sandbox type gameplay that makes Hitman so good.
I wouldn't even mind paying for a new map at this point, but it's just rehash left and right.

>>716308923
So same as when Hitman III originally released. You bought Hitman III and if you didn't already own I and II, you had to buy those as well. Now I and II are free. Sorry you bought them when they released, but they're old games and are now available for free. You pay only for III in WoA.

>>716309209
>now they're just going to drip feed you with elusive targets.
This. Expect a couple new elusive targets every year until like 2030 when they announce Hitman IV. IOI is unreal.

>>716309080
>wanted to make james bond slop all along
If this was always IOI's goal, why did it take them 26 years?

>>716309861
can't tell if you're baiting or just that retarded?

>>716309743
>>716309209
>>716309632
I mean I'm not sure what you expect. The last big update was Freelancer, which can be argued to be the best thing thats happened to the game and that was free. People thought theyd stop supporting the game at all after that, but theyre still adding ET's and even adding co-op soon so I'm not sure what else you want.

>>716309861
IO Interactive is a new company. They have nothing to do with any of the old Hitman games, they just stole their name.

>>716309989
I want Hitman IV, not just a hodgepodge of celebrities to kill. It's been like 4 years since Hitman III, where is it?

>>716309989
well I can't speak for others, but I played hitman because of it's uniqueness and story was decent.
I couldn't care less for rogue-like, rogue-lite gimmick.
they just reused preexisting maps, slapped a game mode and called it an update, if that's enough for you - good I guess.
and to answer your question, I didn't really expect anything from this scummy company that used this game as a fleshlight and treated hitman fanbase with such contempt.

>>716310162
if you consider that it's the same engine as HITMAN I (one after absolution) and basically same game just expanded (full price btw) it's more or less just a scam at this point.

How can stealth game be good if headturning exists?

>>716310162
You're not getting Hitman 4 for a long time. It has to be a big improvement over WoA to be worth making - and considering WoA is pretty much Hitman perfected, I'm not sure what you want.

I'd love for a custom contract / target / map maker though but then theyd put themselves out of the job.

>>716310232
>story was decent
youre like the only one who cares about that

>>716310232
>rogue-like, rogue-lite gimmick.
it's the best part of the game arguably. try it.

>>716308923
no, they are free now, you just get them with 3

>>716293347 (OP)
Fun game, but it's also the only game I can think of where just buying the "correct" version is such a pain in the ass that it puts people off from playing the game.

>>716310364
>WoA is pretty much Hitman perfected,
this, it's hard to even imagine how to approach the series from here

>>716310364
>youre like the only one who cares about that
ok. and?
are you one of those braindead tiktok broccoli's?

>>716310364
I hate rogue likes.

>>716310364
>>716310470
samefag btw

>>716310471
>are you one of those braindead tiktok broccoli's?

mate youre the one who considers hitman WoA's passable story "decent" but go off

>>716310362
They nerfed it a bunch after 1. I think it still changes their vision a bit but it's so minor now that I honestly couldn't tell you for sure after not playing for awhile compared to the constant issue it was in the first game.

>>716310510
try it and shut the fuck up.

>>716310535

>>716310419
it literally shows on the store page what you get.

>>716310557
so you don't even have basic reading comprehension it seems.

>>716310632
heeeyy newfag, you were not there at launch, anyway long story short: the situation was waaaaay worse than it is now
see you later, got no time to argue with you

>>716310646
just say your fav film is boss baby

>>716310625
>what is inspect element?

>>716298704
Nah, BM got it just right. On easier difficulties a disguise is basically a hall pass in an otherwise no-go area, but on harder difficulty you can't fuck around in front of guards too much even if you have a disguise. With enforcers you have to know what disguise can go where AND where the enforcers are AND the routes the enforcers go AND what kind of disguises they can see through. It's too much, and it doesn't help that the levels are comparatively huge.

>>716309989
>Freelancer
I never asked for Freelancer though? I want Hitman, not a collector-slop game where overpowered guns and explosives allow speedrunners to break game mechanics.
>>716310470
Just more of the same? It's not hard. The humor is there, just find more interesting locations to make a map on. Rinse and repeat.

>>716310764
BM disguises were overpowered. If you have no notoriety you can do whatever you want in front of guards

>>716310763
uhuh

which dlc do I need to fill up the empty walls in freelancer

>>716310840
what do speedrunners have to do with you?? its a singleplayer game

>>716310864
all of the packs, but one of them you can no longer get so unless you bought it (or they bring it back) you can never fill the wall

>>716310932
IOI is actively catering to that community, it's incredibly obvious from the game design and the items they keep adding.

>>716310861
>BM disguises were overpowered
>no devs, don't let me have fun

>>716293347 (OP)
Really good. On pc you can access content that was limited but you'd have to let it access your kernel or whatever. Maps are good. Colombia is probably my favourite map.

>>716311028
maybe you should play garrys mod with noclip on and invincibility on since you enjoy that sorta BS

>>716311028
Easy mode isn't fun for everybody. You're more than welcome to turn the game down to casual.

>>716311119
you sound underage and seem to know a lot about games played by underage people.

this is an 18+ site, leave it.

>>716311176
zoomers dont play gmod anymore, retard

>>716310632
This. It's very straight forward compared to what it used to be, though they really should make a version that includes all the DLCs.

>>716311152
>>716311028
yeah turn down the difficulty to casual yer casual.

look at this casual

>>716311119
>>716311152
>BM wasn't fun enough for an elite player such as myself

>>716311232
lol
lmao even
paid shills in this thread actually defending this
for fuck sake no wonder industry can fuck gamers in all the holes and get away with it.

>>716311152
>>716311280
there are enforcers in casual too

>>716308575
>but you can't play 1/2 levels in World of Assassination even if you own the previous games retard.
But you can. And I do. Fucking retard.

>>716311339
youre getting upset over saying BM's disguises were overpowered

>>716311419
WOAH slowdown buddy, thats a bit too extreme for our blood money pal over there

>>716293347 (OP)
>is this good?
>is this still worth it?
>should i try this?

>>716311872
yes yes yes

>>716311232
>It's very straight forward compared to what it used to be
Always was.

When H3 launched on steam this complaint didn't exist, it only started when H3 got a steamie release.

Steamies are just that retarded.

>>716312072
>When H3 launched on steam this complaint didn't exist
Epic games*

>>716312072
no one wants to use your store, tim
go cry about it on shitter.

>>716312161
literally everyone who cared about the series played it on epic. it was only the steamies who insist on being loyal to a storefront that the retarded complaining about "muh which version do i buy" became prominent

i will always hold disdain against steamies, and remind everyone of this for that reason.

>>716311872
I look like this

>>716310056
Don't get publishers mixed up with developers. IOI was always the dev from the start.

>>716311463
Because you bought them with Hitman 3/WoA troglodyte.

>>716293347 (OP)
it's pretty good, but BM is much better just from the fact that missions/NPCs don't wait around for you to be close by and/or have the relevant equipment on hand before they start going about their business.

>>716306534
hello, zoomer.

>>716311232
>this is sane
>this is normal
>best edition still lacks DLC
o-ok, I'm sorry for asking anon.. I think I play some... some Blood Money

Really good. Then hiding the other modes behind the online stuff is garbage, but Freelancer is fucking great and exactly what Hitman needed.

>>716313694
nta but im 30+ and he's correct

>>716293347 (OP)
Its butchered hitman blood money for new generation of gamers.

>>716306534
>the only reasons to check it out are the general vibe, the music, and historical interest in the series

>it's overrated!!!
>literally the entire list says why it beats the modern games
>gun customization actually still mogs modern shitman
you people, I'm 37 and BM is the best, then Absolution because I like being contrarian arthouse is a cool style and the disguises wearing off made the most sense to me as ex security worker.
When I was on a shift, I knew every coworker. There is no blending in unless you are far away and move quickly past my field of view.
Watching the meter burn down to 0% disguise made Absolution quite fun.

>>716300681
A brain he said haha hahah

Anybody that says Absolution is the worst one hasn't played C47.

The dock level in that one is probably the worst designed level I've ever played in any game ever.

>BM boomers crying in a WoA thread yet again for attention
lol

lmao

It's funny how hard the contrarian posers and nostalgiafags end up outing themselves by mindlessly lumping Absolution into their 'old good, new bad' programming.

>schizo baiting with posts that have no backlink in hope for a (You)

YAAAAAWN
you will never be a troll___

>>716315215
Plutonium Runs Loose? That mission is also absolutely awful in Contracts

>>716315425
it's not so bad in contracts desu

not amazing but way better than C47

>>716293347 (OP)
I mean it literally includes an updated Blood Money.

why does literally every game have some schizo shitposting about it?

>>716316184
Every mentally ill retard desperate for attention congregates here because anonymity and lack of moderation lets them easily fuck up and make themselves a centerpiece of any genuine discussion. You even have third worlders on twitter advertising this place as a haven for belligerent morons by posting screencaps all day so they can feed their families with the pocket change Musk throws at them.

>>716308679
Well the new ones are just Absolution with huge maps. That actually surprised me when i finally decided to check them out. They didn't even change the stealth sound effects and the melee qte.

>>716293347 (OP)
Play on Professional or above difficulty and. after you're familiar with the layout of a map attempt SASO immediately to fully experience the way the game was originally designed to be experienced before the Devs were forced to add the mission story bollocks. none of that overt handholding shit is necessary because the game is actually really well designed and implemented using visual and audible cues in the environment.

>>716313349
So you can play them then? Regardless of whether you own 1 and 2 or not?

>Purchased and played WoA 1 and 2
>Want to play 3
How the fuck do I buy it? I have the 1st and 2nd I only want the 3rd now but I don't get how to only purchase it without having to buy everything again.

>>716310470

>no room for improvement

>Integrate Freelancer and the main campaign into the same mode (make Freelancer missions side missions that you do to earn extra cash, and you unlock new maps for Freelancer by doing the main story missions)

>branching story paths where you decide what contracts you take and what factions you do hits for

>bring back the newspaper from BM in a more modernised form (i.e online news articles)

>weapon upgrade system

>Glacier 3 engine so we can have working elevators and other technical advances

>instead of unlocking suits, you unlock suit pieces so you can create and customise your own suit

>more detailed gore

>an optional second protagonist with a different playstyle and campaign from 47 (possibly a female protagonist for added challenge).


These would be improvements.

>>716320578
>WoA 1 and 2
No such thing. World of Assassination is the new name for Hitman III.
If you buy it, you're paying for 3's content and get 1 and 2 for free whereas in the past when it was called Hitman III you needed to own 1 and 2 separately to be able to play the levels in 3's updated engine.

>>716320757
>If you buy it, you're paying for 3's content and get 1 and 2 for free
I already have them, is there no way to just purchase 3 without 1 and 2 so it's not priced that high?

>>716320882
No. Hitman 3's price is $70. This is what it cost on release. It's just that after the name change they give you 1 and 2's levels for free with it. They're an extra, you're not paying more for them, you're only paying for 3.

>>716320983
Alright I appreciate the answer. I'll wait for the next big discount.

There is a massive game design problem in these games: a lot of NPC conversations and actions only happen when you get near them, otherwise the script won't be triggered. No, NPCs shouldn't wait for you to get behind the door to talk about some password. Everything should happen regardless of players actions. But since nu-Hitman levels are massive, they had to make this compromise. Which sucks, give me smaller but better designed levels.

>>716320983
Oh and do you know if stuff carries over from 1 and 2 that I have to WoA/3? Unlocked costumes from the expiring contract thingies, story progression, etc?

>>716315215
I think people generally accept that C47 is more like the prototype of Hitman, rather than an installment that can compete with the rest

>>716321225
It should since it's tied to your IOI account.
One caveat is you don't get Hitman 2's DLC missions if you had them for 2 because IOI somehow fucked up how they import in WoA. You have to buy them again and lose progression in them.

>>716321439
I have the Hitman 2 expansion in WoA and I didn't have to rebuy it.

>>716321825
If you imported it before Hitman III became World of Assassination in 2023, you got to keep it, they fucked it up when they changed the name and delisted 1 and 2 from stores and never fixed it. Real scummy move on IOI's part, but that's par for the course.

>>716321179
The big levels are great because of the sheer amount of variety and options you have. Plus, they’re necessary for Contracts mode and Freelancer.

You’ve also got maps like New York, which are smaller, but intricate.

>>716321179
They should've cut the map up into zones and made it so once you enter a section, everything starts to play out.
So like if you enter a building and don't get up to the second floor in 2 minutes, you miss information being revealed and have to find another way.
It's really jarring having the world be super static until you get to exactly the right spot and then they activate like animatronics with motion sensors.

>>716322889
I doubt that would be plausible without breaking up the level into loading screens, and it would be especially problematic considering this is a game where what you do on one side of the map can effect what happens on the other side of the map. The whole map has to be rendered in at once out of necessity.

>>716323126
It would just involve changing the trigger zones to be further away and less numerous.
It's really dumb that you can do things, like for example, call a target and the target will wait until you go and sit down in the room you're supposed to meet up at rather than the phone call starting a 2-3 minute timer as the target goes to the meeting point.

>>716320637
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>>716320637
>so we can have working elevators
I can't believe it's 2025 and there's still no working elevators. This is ridiculous. Devs figured this shit out 30 years ago.

>>716323281
Tbf, there are some instances of events that are timed. The race in Miami is an obvious example— You can just use triggers to speed up the timer. The Sheikh in Paris will also go up to the Auction floor after a few minutes without any interference.


I guess I’m not too hard on the triggers because the maps and scripts are absurdly complicated by the standards of pretty much any game, so doing it in any other way would likely be a technical nightmare. IIRC, the original plan was for timers, but they changed it to proximity because it just didn’t work out in practice.

>>716323820
It’s a problem with how the specific engine IO currently uses handles vertically moving platforms. You can’t place objects on a moving surface without them phasing through it.

>inb4 BM had elevators, so that’s not an excuse.

The elevators in BM were glitchy and barely worked. If someone’s feet leafy the ground for even a moment while an elevator was descending, it would instakill them because the game would think they fell out of bounds.

>>716325330
Ragdolls: The natural enemy of elevators.

>>716293347 (OP)
Only if heavily modded. It's bloatui handholding neutered garbage vanilla, sadly. Great modded though.

>>716331108
>bloatui handholding neutered garbage
This. I played the demo and figured all the handholding was just for the tutorial, then I played the free mission and it was exactly like the tutorial, highlights on everything, being able to see and mark people through walls, a fuck ton of "go here, go there, do this, do that" objectives all over the screen.
Garbage game, put me off from buying it along with the always online requirement.

>>716293347 (OP)
No its not
Nu bad old good
Simple as

>>716331108
every single UI element is a toggle in the settings wtf are you talking about mods

>>716331575
This. Blood Money is the GOAT. Codename 47 is GAME OF THE CENTURY material.
nuHitman is garbage.

>>716321090
You can get the standard edition on g2a for around 30 bucks, it doesn't have Haven or New York though.

>>716293347 (OP)
Get the whole thing in one purchase on sale.

Absolutely worth it, the game is genuinely so good and fun that I don't care about the exploitation.

Freelancer mode is incredibly fun and adds ton of replayability.

People here hate games. Ignore them. Nu-Hitman is fucking great and nothing really comes close to doing the things it does in a video game.

>>716331315
it's a simple setting in the options and no quest markers are not even remotely required for playing the game

It's Always-Online trash for retards and I want IOI systemically executed for ruining Hitman.

It's needless greedy bullshit that cannot be justified and has been proven completely unnecessary by over 30 years of other games not needing Always-online for much simpler progress systems.

FUCK IOI
FUCK ANYONE SAYIN THIS IS EVEN REMOTELY OKAY
I WISH HELL WAS REAL SO YOU COULD FUCKING BURN IT FOR SUPPORTING THIS FILTH

>Basically nobody warning OP it's an always-online singleplayer game

VIRAL MARKETING THREAD FILLED WITH BOTS

YOUR BULLSHIT WILL BE OUTLAWED IN MY LIFETIME YOU FUCKING PIECEA OF SHIT

>>716332518
>>716332667
I played the entire game in offline mode.
I then used Peacock to get all the stuff I missed by doing so for my second playthrough.
An Internet connection is not required to enjoy the game.

>>716332748
FUCK YOU. EAT BOOT YOU FUCKING IOI SHILL.

>>716332023
I do find it incredible how many little things the game gets right. The attention to detail rivals the best immersive sims and is borderline Kojima-tier.

Even something as simple as working mirrors is something that it just mogs most other games in regards to.

Which gameplay settings do you turn off/leave on? I'm just getting into the game after playing BM and it seems like master difficulty with with no story/challenge guides is the way to go. Also turned off that annoying XP bullshit. Maybe no minimap or no instinct, having both seems like overkill. Having so many options is a bit overwhelming

>>716333761
minimap is easy mode so that's off, the game is mostly playable without instinct but once you get into all the harder challenges there's only so much patience for walking into guards you couldn't predict

>>716333610
>working mirrors
Even cooler is that the NPCs can see you in the mirror. I've never seen any other game that manages that.

>>716334348
MGS2, MGS3 and Chaos Theory do it. Although in Chaos Theory’s case, it’s a scripted sequence.

>>716334348
You must not play a lot of games. It was the standard of all stealth games before 2012 or so.

>>716334751
Not really. A lot of stealth games just didn’t have mirrors outright to circumvent the issue entirely Only a select few of them did.

>>716333761
I turned off everything except for like the indicators for enemies seeing you on a normal play through. Once I finished the story, I put story mission on minimal and figured out what to do on my own.
For challenges and now Freelancer I put instinct back on

Can't remember if I had instinct on for Master or not. I'd say do what you can or like, but I do think instinct is great for Freelancer though.

>>716321090
It's on sale now

>>716336095
>instinct is great for Freelancer though

I feel like instinct is a necessity for Freelancer. There’s too much randomisation in the target locations to not need it.

>Playing freelancer
>Showdown on the manor level
>Start above the old woman's office
>Wait for her to do her routine of walking to the private room to do her thing before she and other guards leave
>Try to silently takedown the guard next to the stairwell to get a distance
>Without a warning one of the suspects walks in the office and sees the whole thing
>Panic shoot the suspect in the head
>It was the correct target
Fucking Freelancer sometimes

>>716293347 (OP)
what's the best place to start with hitman?
blood money?

>>716337829
Silent Assassin and work your way up from there. Only play Codename 47 if you want to see how the series actually started out.

>>716336825
Thanks for the heads up. Just picked up the H2 Expansion because I didn't realize it comprised a big chunk of the game when I bought the standard edition in the summer sale.

>>716337829
they're all worth a play, C47 is particularly jank but has both the best (traditions of the trade) and worst (colombia lol) moments in the series

>>716337087
Yeah, it's nice to be able to see what tell a target could be doing from a distance and save time.

>>716337650
Good shit. That's what I like about Freelancer, dumb ideas that work out, disasters turned into miracles or sweaty palms shoot out train wrecks

>>716338285
I feel Freelancer is a double-edged sword at times. You can screw up and lose a ton of progress due to things that really aren’t your fault (i.e getting bad target and objective combos, a single witness escalating into a massive shootout against every guard in the map), but at the same time, it feels good when the game pulls some absolute BS and yet you STILL manage to come out on top.

>>716293347 (OP)
its great but with several glaring flaws that will never be fixed

So how do I unlock this DLC? It keeps getting advertised and it's the only thing in the game I can't seem to buy?

>>716339835
You don't. Remember to buy all the celebrity packs the day they come out because tomorrow they could get outed as a rapist.

>>716340062
This.

>>716340062
I do honestly wonder why the went for McGregor, since it was well known that the guy was controversial and a dick even before being outed as a rapist.

>>716341060
Because he was one of the biggest celebrities at the time who'd be willing to do stuff for a video game and an MMA fighter makes for a great villain.

>>716341060
>controversial and a dick
who better to simulate killing?
if the actual assassination attempts didn't basically rule it out i'd unironically love to see the overblown anti-trump guest appearance

>>716310419
FYI:
Switch Cloud version is NOT the correct version.
Switch 2 version is neat, but performs worse than CP2077 or NMS.

>>716343076
>switch
The only platform this game should be played on is PC so you can install mods to do away with IOI's always online and time limited fuckery.

>>716341060
I don't see why they can't do like
>make replacement pack with some OC target, and change all references to the rapist, and reskin items
>put that on the store to replace the old one
>people who have the original get the replacement free
>they can toggle which version to use

>>716343267
There's also Freelancer Variations, which should honestly just be part of the base game now.

>>716344869
They want everybody to know the consequences of not giving into FOMO.
You will forever have that greyed out "Get Access" on The Ostentatious and you will like it.
Should've bought it when you had the chance!

>>716345403
i need to get around to actually finishing ET arcade at some point

>>716345706
TOO BAD! YOU CAN'T! You'll never 100% the game because Conor McGregor's a rapist! Write him in prison to complain!

>>716345753
Rich people don't go to prison for crimes they commit. Conor McGregor is a free man.

>>716345862
worse than free he will soon be president of potato island

>>716293347 (OP)
Yeah its amazing, its better than Blood Money imo.

>>716346471
It's one of the few games that really feels like it took a concept from the 6th gen and improved upon it, taking advantage of all the super powerful modern hardware in newer consoles.
Shame it requires a constant Internet connection and has a billion DLCs though, those really hurt the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjo96bHwpYY

>>716308679
>a HITMAN gets framed for murder and has to clear his name
Literally the most retarded story I can think of.

it's aesthetically inferior in every single way from Contracts and BM, it just happened to be released when technology improved and symptomatically the mechanics are better, that does not make the designing nor the direction any better.
The game is glorified only in the sense of its replayability, including hundreds of "creative" ways of killing a target and expecting the player to go through them is dull and pointless.

btw, anyone who defends their online only practices and the way the sell the game need to be lynched.

>>716348415
>playing hitman for the story

>>716348597
Contracts has the best story mostly because it goes away with the diana wankery and political drama every game falls into and is instead just 47 having fever dreams about past contracts and then pure ludokino for the climax.

>>716348841
Hitman needs no story. It should just be, here's a cool locale, now kill this guy/girl.

>>716345862
It wasn't a real trial he was never going to jail. Civil garbage.

>>716345862
>here's our DLC where you can MURDER a convicted real life RAPIST
How is this not the best marketing ever? They should do a Jeffery Epstein DLC next.

>>716350252
how does he fit the rifle in the briefcase?
i can understand fitting a wa2000 in a suitcase but most of the rifles are not compact at all

>>716351156
Guns can be broken into pieces and reassembled later.

>>716351262
yes but a dragonov?

>>716340280
Right is obviously Christian Bale. I will chop off my left nut if it's not.
But who the fuck is the left?

>>716351520
left: julius caesar
right: adam dreyfuss
not sure why or how but its obviously them

>>716340280
I HATE CELEBRITIES
I HATE CELEBRITIES!

>>716352262
then kill them violently in the hit roleplaying game violenceman

>>716351156
>>716351262
I would think the rifle would lose it's zero after being taken apart and reassembled.

>>716352309
This. I love the elusive contracts because it allows you to kill celebrities.

>>716352348
pretty sure 47 doesn't actually use the scope now that he has witcher senses
guides the shot by sensing the weight alone

>>716351520
Boomhauer

>>716293347 (OP)
until i can get this stupid shit on sale for 20 bucks with all the content, i sleep. i pirated it when it was called hitman 3 and did all the story shit, and it's over so it's not like we're getting any more of that any time soon. i am not going to pay 70+ dollars just to get access to some unlockables and extra game modes i likely won't even really play that much.

>>716352925
>now that he has witcher senses
Worst fucking addition, worse than the always online requirements even. Fuck nuHitman.

>>716353290
>i pirated it when it was called hitman 3 and did all the story shit
You played the whole game then.

>>716353390
well i never did any of the ET shit. Would like to, but apparently you can't get access to the old ones even if you buy in now. so fuck all that.

>>716353572
ETs are time limited. You can play them all with Peacock though.

>>716350483
Because they’d have to pay him royalties, which is horrendous PR.

>IOI decides to get into publishing after finishing Hitman WoA
>first game they publish is Mind's Eye

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

Do I get this? I never played 2 or 3 but played 1 on PC many years ago
it's actually cheaper physical than on the playstation store right now

>>716354586
Get the PC version. Mods are the only way to fix this online crapfest.

>>716311232
>>716314294
the dlcs not included in deluxe are just collabs, cosmetics and elusive targets
lets throw a fit when they release a new story pack or actual new area to explore and not inlcude it.

>>716354385
Because ex-Rockstar rep.

IO in general is a cursed company in the sense that anything they do that isn’t Hitman is a flop. They’re literally just “the Hitman studio” and that’s really all they’re good at.

>>716353787
could never figure out how to get that shit to work. at least not with a pirated version of the game.

Realistically, how long will it be until they kill the servers? I know there’s no signs of it going down any time soon, but I wonder if there’s a contingency plan in place. If there’s one GaaS game that deserves to be preserved, it’s this one.

>>716358180
>"stop killing games!"
>47 kills the game
nice work ioi now modded is the objectively correct way to play

>>716356050
DLCs are bad, mkay?

>>716358180
Servers will die TWO WEEKS after 007 releases.

>>716359154
which mods would that be?

>>716359540
Peacock is all you need. They can never kill it because it emulates the server on your own PC and unblocks access to all time-gated missions.

>>716359648
pee cock?
sounds gay and gross

>>716359725
BAGOCK!!!!!
https://thepeacockproject.org/

>>716293347 (OP)
If you enjoy replaying levels purely to kill the targets in increasingly ridiculous manners then you will enjoy it.

Splitterbros.... WE WON!
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1659040/eventcomments/598533015389442211

>>716360659
You know you could just buy the mission for $5, right?

woa is one of my favorite games, very replayable. needs peacock though

>>716361490
why would i give ioi money to make james bond instead of hitman

>>716293347 (OP)
Its shit, ignoring the pricing, dlc, always online and all the other "modern game" cancer.
Its still a mid stealth game with braindead AI that cant do anything beyond some basic scripts.
The disguise system is also retarded, since there is always a couple of them that get universal access,
so you are always just turning around at spawn to follow the one guy with hall pass to everywhere.

tl:dr
Its the most bland and easy stealth game with arbitrary "story" type assassinations.
Beloved by normies and idiots, ignored by everyone else.

>>716364101
its a sandbox puzzle franchise not stealth

>>716364101
So what's a good stealth game?

>>716364547
/v/ is not ready for this discussion

>>716364547
Stealth Bastard Deluxe

>>716364205
>its not stealth
>>716364547
>whats good stealth then
Even you fkn fanboys dont have your shit together

>>716364934
>the legs clipping
>her knee

>>716365053
looks like they used the male skeleton for the animation on her

>>716364934
>>716365053
when/if the improved VR ever comes to pc i am going to masturbate all over yuki yamazaki

>>716365053

when does victoria replace 47?

>>716364547
>>716364632
>>716364660

>>716368156
>HUH WAY TO GO

do you kill agent smith when you see him?

2 is still the best

>>716364547
Invisible Inc

>>716370749
best story - silent assassin
best mechanics - blood money
best levels - woa(should probably break it down to the specific season but i dont care enough at 3am)
best targets - ???

>>716364547
modded skyrim

surprised they didn't make a pseudo-epstein mission where 47 sails to a random island and finds out that there are a ton of pedos there
kinda like a mix of eyes wide shut and lolita

>>716364547
The ones I like.

>>716370859
I don't know if its stockholm syndrome or what but part of me misses a bit of the jank of blood money.
It felt good once you finally mastered walking at the perfect intercept speed, pulling your gun out at the last second, taking a human shield, and then knocking them out and you know you've got no margin for error before a patrolling NPC comes around the corner.
WOA is so much bigger that you have to streamline knocking people out.
I also miss the newspaper at the end of the mission. Shit was comfy, especially if things went sideways and you have to kill and entire hotel/casino full of people because fuck that sheik.

>>716293347 (OP)
one of the best modern stealth sandbox games

I've just started playing Hitman 16. how fucked am I?

>>716372946
like 1%
really it just depends how much you get triggered by grayed out time gated content that you missed

>>716372946
Anon if you have 2016 or Hitman II, you can link it to your IOI account, and unlock the content in the hitman 3/WOA launcher.

>>716372946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LjIcwHDLI
i still want to play the japanese dub

>>716293347 (OP)
>WoA
Why play that downgrade?

>>716374680
wanted to try freelancer
its pretty good

>>716337829
WoA unless you can tolerate old janky games. Getting through WoA alone should be at least 100hrs on a 1st playthru though, more if you get stuck in with the game like you should if these games are for you.

I played BM growing up and it's not as good as its shills claim, and the classic games are vastly different to anything the modern games are, which is what the majority of Hitman fans are talking about.

>>716371037
>he didnt play haven

>>716376881
just what WAS on that stolen flash drive?

>>716376498
I wouldn't say BM is really jank. It's mainly hard to go back to because the levels and targets feel very lacking compared to the new games.

>>716377815
Depends on what your definition of jank is. For most people it's jank. The obscure way detection works if you don't know about notoriety, the way you don't know what areas are trespassing and what aren't, relying on a 2d map to see where your targets are. I think the actual navigating and interacting with the game world is passable but a lot of other stuff won't pass the jank check for most.

dual wielding
npcs picking up dropped weapons in a fight
pushing people down stairs as a ragdoll instead of a ledge based prompt
weapon customization
suit retrieval bonus
newspapers describing playstyle
notoriety and paying it off

>>716378223
>relying on a 2d map to see where your targets are.
at least the old maps told you what direction the npcs were looking

>>716378368
as does instinct, while not requiring you to open a menu and pause the game

>>716378463
yes but instinct falls into the mind palace witcher senses detective mode modernity slop category whereas the old maps functioned more like your myriad of allies from the agency were running surveillance and updating a map in real time rather than just being able to see through walls like superman

>>716378623
being able to see targets like a superman is preferable to having to open a menu, then looking at the targets moving on the harry potter map
>your myriad of allies from the agency were running surveillance
it's just as magic as seeing through walls, just with extra jank

>>716293347 (OP)
Game is worth it alone for Freelancer
The story campaign is just a bonus

>>716378774
>it's just as magic as seeing through walls, just with extra jank
i disagree, ever play those janky co-op games where one player has all the information the second player needs to progress/succeed?
i can fully imagine a shitty steal co-op where one player can see all the camera feeds and the other is in first person with being spotted counting as an instant fail

>>716378950
>steal co-op
stealth*

>>716378623
>whereas the old maps functioned more like your myriad of allies from the agency were running surveillance and updating a map in real time
That sounds even more silly than the idea of 47 just being hyperaware. I think instinct genuinely feels a lot more natural and even immersive. You can actually walk around like you belong where you are rather than hugging every corner or regularly stopping to open your map.

>>716378950
that's a completely diffferent game you are describing. hitman is a sandbox puzzle game with stealth elements. being able to know when guard is coming around the corner or when they stop at a certain spot is a core element in this game, if you had to rely on a harry potter map tucked into a menu screen to do that the game would play infinitely worse

>>716379090
>>716379178
bare in mind that we have a minimap in current year

>>716379242
Staring at a minimap is even worse as a solution than staring at an xray vision.

>>716293347 (OP)
Always online progression.
Do not buy.

>>716379310
i disagree, i would even prefer to only figure out npc locations and patrols through trial and error than have x-ray vision

>>716379242
So, what's the issue with instinct then? I don't understand why you dislike instinct and call it modern slop while being perfectly fine with the exact same information being conveyed to you by staring at a map instead.

>>716379516
i find the diegetic superpower breaks suspension of disbelief more than the non-diegetic hud element

>>716293347 (OP)
it's worth it. the story aside (which is pretty good), there is a lot of replayability and the freelancer mode is neat too.

>>716305223
This. The new hitman game is basically some le wacky discord co-op game you play with your faggy friends, except it's single player. Let that sink in.

>>716379787
co-op coming soon
also ios so WoA is also a mobile game and not just hitmango

>>716307924
>I deserve a discount for Game 3 because I bought Games 1 & 2
lmao

>>716379412
The always online is just confusing and dumb and unnecessary. Like I get it with illusive targets or timed content, but for a game thats just single player its weird.
The progression system isn't that bad, you're going to replay each level a lot, so it just gives you additional objectives on your 13th time through paris.
You can also savescum a lot of stuff.
You can give a target emetic poison and follow them to the bathroom, then save the game and drown them, then reload, then use the fiber wire, then reload, and shoot them in the head. Then finish the mission and you'll get credit for those three kills.
And its optional, there's nothing you unlock that you must have for future missions. Just convenience.

>>716379967
but game 3 costs 300%

I completely forgot Instinct was even a thing. I don't think I used it once in the 100+ hours I've played in all 3 games.

>>716380079
Dang, they actually upped the price when they rebranded Hitman 3. I didn't know that. That's quite jewish.

>>716309743
>>716310162
There's no Hitman "I - III"
It was always supposed to be a single game.
Back in 2016, they called it "Season 1."
The entire game was supposed to come out in episodes, but they just changed the name to imply different games so they could sell it better.
The best part is that people fell for it
Now it's just one game called World of Assassination, as it was always supposed to be before they brilliantly cashgrab marketed it.
WoA is a complete and done game.
Next Hitman game can be "WoA 2" or whatever else they decide to make.

>>716379490
then don't use it. the xray vision is not for figuring out the map anyway, it's for predicting vision cones

>>716380207
that doesn't excuse downgrading the map functionality of npc facing and even color coding

>>716379648
Eh, I see instinct as a hud element too. Acting like 47 must actually have x-ray vision is as silly as acting like he actually has a team spying on the entire map. It, personally, doesn't break my suspension of disbelief anymore than him disguising himself as people he looks nothing like or nobody acknowledging him when somebody he just served immediately drops dead in front of him even after he grabs shit off their corpse.

>>716380332
>downgrading the map functionality
the map functions better, since it shows you all the points of interests now. the only thing they removed was the harry potter feature which is replaced by a better feature that does the same thing but better.
>>716379648
>diegetic superpower
the superpower is just as diegetic or non-diegetic as the harry potter map. neither are referenced by any in game cutscene so they are both non-diegetic.

>>716380538
even if opening the map pauses time the other features being removed is a downgrade

>>716310162
>where is it?
On the backburner since they've been making that new 007 game.

>>716380538
47 has blindsight

>>716293347 (OP)
It's really good, but I think it lacks that orchestral Hitman atmosphere a bit, instead having that very drab Craig Bond vibe to it.
Also - always online, which means the game will die the second the servers go down.

>>716380850
>which means the game will die the second the servers go down
There's a mod that makes it function perfectly offline even if IOI has nothing planned themselves.

>>716380725
what other features

you said that you learn the maps by looking at the guard locations on the map, yet its achieved the same by just walking around without constantly looking at a 2d map.

or that it's a downgrade because you can't see which way NPCs are facing, yet you can do that by using the xray vision but the feature is much better than having to constantly pause and pull up a menu.

>>716293347 (OP)
It's online only for single player but if you pirate it then you can play offline. The pirate version is superior to the paid version.

>>716381231
>pirate
but then i wont be giving ioi money to make the james bond trilogy instead of hitman