When did you stop enjoying Assassin's Creed?

>>716331117 (OP)
I liked Origins but it wasn't an Ass Creed game. Didn't like the new present day protag. When I heard Odyssey was more of the same, I checked out.

After Unity.

>>716332112
Fag detected

When they made it political

>>716331117 (OP)
Whenever they added numbers to damage / tiered levels for items.
I want to play a historical ‘sim’ with assassinations, not Destiny with Witcher animations

>>716331117 (OP)
3 was when I dropped the series

>>716332283
>too scared to post his opinion
Pussy detected.

>>716331117 (OP)
After 2

>>716332112
I liked origins and I'm actually playing Odyssey right now for the first time, and it's much worse.

>>716331117 (OP)
It was at Syndicate. I played 4 hours before dropping it permanently. Played all the previous ones to hell and back.

Is it worth going for any of the newer ones like Odyssey and Valhalla? I know they have very good city design so I am thinking i should atleast play it a bit using teleport mods or something similar to reduce the grind and boring parts

>>716331117 (OP)
Unity was the last Assassin's Creed that I genuinely enjoyed. I've played up to Valhalla and I despise the rotten husk it's become

>>716331117 (OP)
Revelations was boring and I didn’t finish it and I never played one after that either.

>>716331117 (OP)
Never enjoyed a single AC game. Tried the first one and it was so insultingly clunky and dogshit that I dropped it after like an hour. Came back for Black Flag expecting something good, but just got a huge world full of busywork and a campaign full of tailing quests that even happen on a boat. Really? Fucking trash. Mission variety is ass.

>>716331117 (OP)
After Ezio

>>716331117 (OP)
After David Blaine started coming over all the time

>>716331117 (OP)
Rpg elements

>>716331117 (OP)
Asscreed 3 when they fucked up the controls

>>716331117 (OP)
Pirate game was the last one I could stand. But 3 was fucking awful and a totally different animal from the first two to me.

>>716331117 (OP)
I stopped enjoying them aftet 4 but still kept playing them. Last one for me was Valhallah and it is my most hated game of all time so I checked out for good after that. No idea why I played this shit series for so long

>>716331117 (OP)
I didn't, it's still a unique series that only ubishart can do, they are good comfort games to play while you wait for the actual game you want to play

>>716331117 (OP)
>tried ac1
>it was ok
>had more fun hopping around and slaughtering every npc than actually playing the game
>get black flag for free many years later
>have to make a uplay account to get it
>decide I'll try it because everyone likes that one
>ship combat in the beginning is whatever
>first mission is some tailing mission
>go play something else
>forget about acbc
>decide to give it another try years later
>uplay got replaced by another service
>can't access my account anymore
Maybe there's a game I'd like somewhere in the pile but you'd have to pay me to try at this point.

Is Rogue worth buying? It is on sale right now.

>>716333052
I like Odysessy because it's silly and knows it is. It's not an AC game at all but it's fun. I'm also a greekaboo so I'm biased.

>>716334750
Probably one of the better stories in AC. If you like Black Flag, get it. It's just a reskin of that.

>>716333103
No, the games since origins are such a slog (don't know about mirage and shadows as I'm not going to play them). They're unnecessarily long and have awful combat with damage sponge enemies. Not sure what you mean by teleport mods, they have fast travel but things are so spread out that it still feels like you take forever to get somewhere.

AC2 > Black Flag > Brotherhood > Revelations > Origins > 1 > Odyssey > Syndicate > 3 > Valhalla > Unity

Not played Shadows or Mirage

>>716331117 (OP)
Gamers are dumb. Anyone with half a brain knows the appeal of these games is the virtual tourism, not the gameplay or the story. They hated Unity because of "muh bad launch" when it is actually by far the best recreation of any historial setting in the franchise, probably because Ubisoft is French. AC2 is actually one of the worst ones, Italian Renaissance is cool but the same building recycled 100x times is not.

>>716335250
I thought their creation of Paris was great, especially for how crowded it was. The game just ran like shit sadly and it put me off. I miss when there was decent verticality and crowded maps in these games instead of just open fields and trees to climb lie it is now. London was good too.

>>716331117 (OP)
I still enjoy it, I only play the games up to Unity tho

>>716331117 (OP)
Back in the day? After Unity/Black Flag/Rogue, whichever came last.
Now? After the first game. Tried replaying AC2 but it was so railroaded and over the top with constant player handholding that I stopped playing it entirely shortly after Leonardo fixes your hidden blade.

>>716332886
Came here to post this

What the fuck were they thinking?

>>716331117 (OP)
It's been a slow decline since around 2 or 3.

Shadows really was the turning point though, that made me block the ubisoft launcher in my entire company.

>>716331117 (OP)
Whatever came after Black Flag

>>716335912
Nobody liked Desmond, thats why they killed him. Suggesting otherwise is just historical revisionism.

>>716334953
I see cheat engine/wemod has an option to teleport to waypoint added on map - I was thinking it will help reduce the mindless back and forth

>>716336073
It's not so much about Desmond but how badly they fucked up the modern story

>>716331117 (OP)
Rogue was the last game that was worth playing.

>>716331117 (OP)
Valhalla. Before that there were missteps but AssC always came back. Now it's doubling down on garbage and apparently it found an audience consuming that garbage so it'll never improve

>>716336073
Everyone liked Desmond. I've literally never meant anyone who doesn't like him and his arc of becoming IRL assassin was cool as shit

>>716336073
Yeah nobody within the confines of your dumb shit head liked Desmond. Everybody else on the outside did.

This scene freaked the fuck out of me when I was a 13 or whatever playing it.

>>716331117 (OP)
uplay bullshit

>>716331117 (OP)
Unity. Beside the bugs and glitches and rag dolls aside, the franchise overstayed its welcome years ago. And I’m glad I did because after Unity, they were so scared by it that they dumbed down the parkour and pivoted into gay action rpg shit with levels and health sponge enemies.

>>716331117 (OP)
I will enjoy the first game the chinks will make once IP gets sold. They will finally purge all the woke shit and the game will be tolerable again.

>>716331117 (OP)
>When did you stop enjoying Assassin's Creed?
revelations, i only finished it to finally see altair and ezio's stories intersect. i tried 3 since it was a a sort of reboot and didn't even make it halfway before i deleted it.

Played up until Revelations, stopped until Odyssey then stopped again until Shadows. Yasuke aside the skill tree is a better version of Odyssey with the two playstyles (stealth and open combat) actually having depth. Plus it seems to be shorter than Odyssey which goes on for too long (I've heard Valhalla is worse). Worst part is how you can just stumble upon sidequest targets without actually starting the quest which means you get no context for 80% of the people you're killing.

>>716337709
>I've heard Valhalla is worse).
Yeah it's ridiculouslu bloated

The more I play the other Ass games the more I am convinced that the first one is the best. It's the only one you can realistically play without using a minimap and it doesn't waste time with the meaningless upgrades and items like AC2. Love Tuscany, though.

>played brotherhood for an hour or so
>enjoyed black flag for 10-20 hours until i got tired of it never ending
>played syndicate for 5 hours
>unity for maybe 2 hours
>origins for 10 hours until i got tired of the level progression between areas
>odyssey must have been 20 hours as well, dropped when enemies became damage sponges
>valhalla was comfy while in norway, quit after getting to boring england
have held out on mirage so far

Odyssey. I don't like the surface level """RPG elements""" like gender options, dialogue choices, and romance in AC. It's a shame because I thought Origins was a decent reboot but then it got immediately ruined.

>>716336939
sent chills down my spine too. assassin's creed is more kino than /v/ likes to give credit for

>>716338167
>assassin's creed is more kino than /v/ likes to give credit for
True

>It is a good life we lead, brother.
>The best. May it never change.
>And may it never change us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSVHx23ByhM

>>716331117 (OP)
valhalla really soured me
also now that the majority of MC with hexe are females i don't think i want to support this franchise anymore

>>716331117 (OP)
Everything after Black Flag was meh. Maybe Origins, but then they copy pasted that game and it lost the little fun it had. Origins feels like 3rd person far cry more than actual asscreed so I dont count the later titles as true AC

>>716332189
Dont get the Unity hype, it was mid at best

>>716339249
it was assassin's creed's classic formula at its full potential. refined parkour, huge city with varied environments, combat that's actually challenging. they should have went forward from here instead of turning the series into poor man's witcher.

>>716339623
I couldn’t get into it because of the annoying cockney English accents all the French characters had

>>716331117 (OP)
Syndicate. That game was terrible and so was everything made after it. Unity was already ass but Syndicate game was shit on a whole other level. Odyssey had good atmosphere and could really make you feel like you're out on a heroic journey from a Greek epic. It had potential unilke the rest of the newer Ass Creeds, but the game design itself was the most uninspired focus-tested woke corporate garbage I've ever seen.

Black Flag is the only one I've actually finished, the assssin gameplay was still shit
I dropped even the Ezio games which are supposedly the peak of the series but I just didn't give 2 shits about them

>>716339874
that's fair but try switching the language settings to french instead.

>>716340273
But then I have to hear fr*nch

>>716339623
>refined parkour
One of the worst parkour in the entire series, only beaten in shittiness by Syndicate and nu-AC.
>huge city with varied environments
Paris is still the best city in the franchise
>combat that's actually challenging
Doesn't mean that the combat is good, because it's still shit. All the challenge is lost the moment you start upgrading your gear. Smoke Bombs especially are busted as shit and you can carry like 15 of them.
>they should have went forward from here instead of turning the series into poor man's witcher.
Agreed. Unity was a good base to start building off, but the launch was so fucking bad that it basically killed AC as a franchise. Hence the pivot to Witcher knockoffs.

>>716331117 (OP)
I started to enjoy it with AC: Shadows.

Origins is the best game. Pure kino

>>716340273
Never thought of doing this, might do this on next playthrough if I have subtitles

>>716331117 (OP)
Unity after patches is the last good Assassins Creed.

>>716331117 (OP)
I think it was with Revelations

>>716341541
I'm not gonna lie, I did the basedjak face during this part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kM1Y5VLEd8

>>716331117 (OP)
I didn't, but Odyssey isn't an AC game and I think has some of the worst things they've ever done to the series.

Never played a game after 2. Did any subsequent one get a ton of mods to make a 2025 play worth it?

I suppose I should ask it here, but has anyone gotten the Definitive Parkour Mods to work with Linux? CheatEngine is a bitch and I doubt it's as simple as converting the XML table to JSON for scanmem.

>>716343006
Swap Black Flag and the Original and I might agree.

1 - bad
2- great
brotherhood- great
Revelelations- bad
3- kinda bad
4- good
Rogue- good
Unity- great
Origins- decent
Odyssey- decent (interchangeable with origins)
Valhalla- dogshit
Stopped playing here, heard mirage and shadows are similarly as dogshit as Valhalla

>>716337981
Stop being ADHD case

>>716333103
>Is it worth going for any of the newer ones like Odyssey and Valhalla?
Origins is great.
Odyssey is only good if you don't like Assassin's Creed and treat it as a generic RPG, and even then its got a pretty bad and inconsistent story and character development with enormous repetition.
Valhalla is only good for the starting 20 hours, everything past that is immense padding outside of the Siege of Paris DLC.
Mirage is what a remake of AC1 should be like just with better parkour.
Shadows is not $40 so I have no opinions on it yet.
>I know they have very good city design
Origins does, Mirage does, Valhalla only does for like two cities I can think of, and Odyssey only does for Athens and Sparta and even then I prefer going around Lesbos more because it feels like an actual different area.
>or something similar to reduce the grind and boring parts
The only game that needs cheats to reduce the grind is Odyssey. Origins overlevels you very quickly and Valhalla gives you so many level ups just from doing anything it's insane. You will sometimes level up 2-3 times just doing a single main story mission.

>>716334945
>Probably one of the better stories in AC.
On what planet? It makes the Assassins nonsensical assholes, the Templars are treated like God sent them down to Earth to feed the homeless, Shay is by far the worst written MC of the series with only Eivor and The Eagle Bearer even coming close, none of the betrayal makes any sense and requires every single person involved to not act like a human being, and Shay being a diehard Templar supporter after the events of AC3 (Which happen in between the ending and the epilogue) makes him an enormous hypocrite and the story not make any sense at all.

>>716343089
AC games don't really get mods that are anything other that skin swaps. I think more recently there's been some parkour overhauls for the very early games but that's it.

>>716343498
>Mirage is what a remake of AC1 should be like just with better parkour.
Moose, what the fuck are you talking about? Mirage is straight ass.

>>716331117 (OP)
I only ever enjoyed 2.5 AssCreeds. 1, 4, and half of Valhalla.
AssCreed 2 "Oi, my name is Ezio da Templar Killah, has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?"-fags need not reply.

>>716331117 (OP)
After Black Flag.
Unity was alright, last one I bought.

>>716342740
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kM1Y5VLEd8
Perhaps the worst thing about AC was how much they milked Ezio's Family, to the point where it became inventory music.

>>716331117 (OP)
It was woke from the beginning.

>>716331117 (OP)
When they dropped the fun combat system in favor of RPG horseshit.

>>716339623
Every problem that plagues the series now started with Unity.

Syndicate

>>716343498
>AC games don't really get mods that are anything other that skin swaps. I think more recently there's been some parkour overhauls for the very early games but that's it.
Black Flag has a few that lets you do model swaps on Kenway and the Jackdaw. You can actually use the man o war that you steal for Nassau's defense. That beauty just tears shit apart in a handful of salvos despite having no real upgrades. Plus a handful of others like the El Impoluto and the massive Assassin's flagship from Rogue. The game was clearly not designed for their usage but you can't help but not enjoy how powerful they are.

>>716341541
I want a hyena to cuddle and enjoy her pseudopenis.

>>716343668
It's great, what are you talking about?
>Parkour is actually the focus again.
>Stealth is actually the preferred way to do anything because of the wanted level paired with how combat basically becomes a parry fest to do any damage.
>You actually have to run away from encounters instead of just murdering everyone.
>You can pickpocket again.
>Social stealth is back.
>Hiring people to do stuff for you is back.
>Exploring the map actually feels like an old AC game again.
>You actually have proper targets with actual motivations and a decent enough story.
Yeah, it's not perfect. The parkour is janky because they tried cramming old mechanics into the Valhalla heavy parkour, it hard crashes the game sometimes, and there is no reason to actually attack in combat instead of parrying, but it's how future games should be like just with better parkour that isn't as heavy as Origins onward.

AC 3 was really boring. America was a mistake.

>>716343878
Nah, it started with AC3, Unity was just the second time it happened. Unity's disastrous launch definitely caused a lot of issues for Ubisoft though, and that's why they were especially confused when people were asking to go back to Unity when Odyssey came out and was getting a lot of flak.

>>716343357
Oh I forgot syndicate that’s also bad

>>716331117 (OP)
I said goodbye to this franchise after Black Flag.

>>716344147
3 killed the soul of the series and it hasn’t recovered since

>>716344009
Just about everything save the parkour (as if Mirage had good parkour) is way better in Origins. Mirage has a nonsense story, none of the emergent gameplay or out-of-sequence questlines, and a city with way too much clutter and sameiness to be navigable.

The tokens are bad, the bird UAV is bad, and the bureaus being enterable from the ground level is a cardinal fucking sin in my book.

>>716331117 (OP)
When Connor showed up.

>>716331117 (OP)
Never, because i'm currently playing through them all right now. Never played any of them before, so i decided to go through them all and figure out what the hype was all about. Currently playing origins, which i think is fantastic. Syndicate was definitely the absolute worst game, though. Absolutely insane, how bad and frustrating it was. Absolutely atrocious controls. Ac1 was definitely the absolute best one of them all, control-wise. The fluidity and the freedom of movement in that game was absolutely insane. All the newer ones do that "stick" thing where the character constantly sticks to all surfaces like fucking gum, or something. It's okay for the most part, but can be insanely annoying. There are definitely moments where ac1 free-form movement would have worked way better...

>>716336073
True. Too sandniggery for my tastes.

>>716345995
>Mirage has a nonsense story
Oh I definitely agree with that. It told us nothing new and refused to cover the actual parts we were intrested in.
>none of the emergent gameplay or out-of-sequence questlines
Because it was trying to be like 1 again and I had no issue with it because it was actually varied in what you did unlike 1 and let you choose which direction you wanted to go which changed a bit of dialogue from your targets if you did one over the other.
>and a city with way too much clutter and sameiness to be navigable.
This I can't agree with at all. The only bad part about it was getting to the center of the city because it meant either going on top of specific buildings or cutting through specific streets that were always notorious so either you had to use your Fear Takedowns to teleport without being seen or kill everyone with no inbetween.

>>716339905
True. Syndicate really was the absolute worst one out of them all.

>>716336073
Everyone liked Desmond, the complaints were that people didn't like being pulled out of the Animus and felt like Revelations was padding. The entire point of the initial games was to build Desmond up which it was doing and then they ripped the rug out from underneath us. People liked Desmond so much he is literally pointed to as where the Modern Day story lost the plot because after he died it went down the crapper, and they've actively tried to make a new Desmond in Layla and failed which is why they're licking their wounds with Mirage and Shadows not featuring Modern Day at all.

>>716332313
I bet you stopped liking ratm too when they became political

>>716347273
They actually brought Desmond back as some super AI.

>>716347669
They still have plausible deniability if his consciousness is in the Isu Animus or not even though he's voiced by Nolan North. He recognized the "Desmond" name and knows he's there to try to find some solution to the butterfly effect of Desmond stopping the solar flare but that's it.

>>716331117 (OP)
Valhalla was the last one. I played it, but I could tell by the details there was no love in it anymore. Havent started shadows yet,waiting on a sale.

>>716347847
Man, this shit is so convoluted know. If any series needed a reboot, it's AC. Doubt they'd be able to even come close to early AC kino though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZfNZLpPBLo

>>716331117 (OP)
Never. Stopping implies I ever started.

>>716347847
The fuck is this?

>>716348703
The ending of Valhalla.
It's revealed that because Desmond stopped the solar flare in 3 it caused the Isu device that stopped it was expelling dangerous levels of radiation and if it wasn't stopped everyone on Earth would just die of radiation poisoning instead. This leads to Layla, being the only person who can survive the lethal doses of radiation due to her Staff of Eden, to enter the Isu structure and connect to the Isu Animus.
Entering the Isu version of an Animus she meets with some Isu digitizations and Loki (as Basim) who was also in the Isu Animus due to a fight with Eivor. Ultimately Layla meets with The Reader (Voiced by Nolan North) who helps her shut down the device, and then The Reader talks about how he's been in there for an unknown period of time trying to figure out how to stop the new solar flare that will happen because of Desmond. He then reacts to "Desmond" implying he is just Desmond's consciousness digitized due to the events of AC3 like how Clay's was in Revelations.

Layla's body is technically "dead" because as she was scooped up into the Isu Animus she dropped the Staff of Eden and so her body got a lethal dose of radiation it couldn't heal from, but she's still alive in the Isu Animus and can still communicate with Shaun and Rebecca so she's still alive and helping, just not in a direct way anymore.

Loki's body drops onto said Staff of Eden bringing him back to life which reveals that Alethia, the consciousness in the Staff of Eden that guided Kassandra to give the Staff to Layla, is actually his wife, and now Loki/Basim is working to bring back the Isu with his wife under the guise of being an Assassin. It's also implied that Loki and Aletheia actually like humans so it's not really a bad thing to help him bring them back. In the epilogue William Miles also asks Loki for some of his blood which leads to the Assassins being the first people in history to have pure Isu DNA to rummage through and Mirage.

>>716350674
What a mess

>>716343783
In that part of the world, it is actually believable

>>716331117 (OP)
I like Syndicate and Origins.

>>716331117 (OP)
Once the game went from being a storydriven cool timetravel thing where you walk the places and events of the past as a sneaky assassin, to a weird RPG that's more about grindy direct combat against multiple enemies and different stats on different gear, and they admittedly decreased the historical accuracy (and thus immersion) to be less offensive to a modern audience

>>716333103
>Shay
How I miss him.

>>716335250
>>716335509
Based. Unity was the last game I enjoyed, though the online play was so-so and they DEFINITELY should have featured Napoléon a ton more. They could even have made a direct sequel with the napoleonic wars as backdrop.