Thread 716348730

Nintendo just doesn't want third party games to sell on Switch 2. They could have went with a different chip maker so devs could buy smaller carts like they did on Switch. But they didn't. They don't want anyone but them at the top of the Switch 2 sales charts.

>>716348730 (OP)
>They could have went with a different chip maker so devs could buy smaller carts like they did on Switch.
OK anon, prove it. Your whole point is mute if you can't do that.

So why even allow 3rd party games at all?

Parts got too expensive to facilitate large games in a small cart, pricing will eventually catch up when tech becomes cheaper. This basically exists as a litmus test for which 3rd parties are pro consumer

Nintendo consumers don't want 3rd party games on their Nintendo.

>>716348730 (OP)
Game key cards are a pronged humiliation ritual. Humiliation for the few buying them and for the third party partners selling them. Nintendo knows this, they have long since had a steep hatred of anyone else making games for them. All of their policies and practices are designed to extract as much wealth as possible from their partners, minimize their returns, and prevent them from growing. In the 80s they took you to court if you made a game for Sega, in the 90s Sony came around and said "yeah nintendo ripping you guys off is stupid, how about we offer you a far better deal." and they left in droves. At this time you were required to buy a quarter million units of your game to sell to customers from Nintendo if you even wanted to release a game on their console. The few that did overwhelmingly regretted it, barely making a profit if at all and even more said no thanks during the gamecube era. "Please fill our mobile gaming system with shovelware! Please!" cried nintendo, and they got what they asked for, low effort licensed garbage like Madagascar the game and pokemon the tv anime on your unlit gba screen, outselling solid third party games like mega man zero, castlevania and doom. Everyone making games regretted it. Yet on non-nintendo consoles? a golden age. Then the wii happened and nintendo begged third parties to return. "look at our sales!" nintendo exclaimed, pointing out that wii sports was selling 1:1 with the console, in denial that fucking zumba fucking fitness is right next to it. "well, OK, here's another try" said the creators of fragile dreams, of the last story, of Baroque, of The Conduit as they lost all their money and shut down their studios or at best retired to mobile game development because nintendo lied and tanked the industry.

Game key cards are a humiliation ritual. For you, and the people producing them. Every day they continue to exist is a reminder that nintendo hates you, spits on their partners, and just wants your money.

>>716348730 (OP)
Third parties are irrelevant. Nintendo exclusives sell a console by themselves.

>>716350772
aint reading all that shit

>>716349796
Unless it's an exclusive, you'd be an idiot to buy the Switch version of a multiplat.
Switch 2 might change that, though, given it's not as underpowered.

>>716350772
Pretty accurate

>>716348730 (OP)
turd party games are glorified shovelware most of the time, so nothing of value was lost

>>716348730 (OP)
Bro, bunch of devs last gen went full faggot anyway.
Akrahm Trilogy only has Asylum on cart.
MegaMan fucking NES collection only has the first game on cart.
GTA Pajeet Trilogy (published by the wealthiest fucking publisher around) only put GTA3 on the cart.
Capcom AGAIN only put Revelations 1 on the cart.
LA Noire needed a big patch to play.
Doom 2016 needed a big patch to play.

I'm sure there's more.

>>716348730 (OP)
Third parties literally asked them for something like game key cards.

>>716348730 (OP)
soon all games will be digital download only, who gives a shit about gay game-key cards? get with the times.

>>716352870
He's talking about Nintendo only allowing production of the 64GB cards for Switch 2, everything below that is Switch 1 only. I'm not sure why he used that picture.

wii u 2

>>716349796
This is so stupid. You are stupid. Do you understand what Revenue is? What's going to happen when Nintendo sells 1 million units at $59.99 each for 12 months vs a third party that sells 200,000 units at 89.99 (ultimate edition) and then 200,000 units at at 69.99 (season 1 edition) and 200,000 units at 59.99 (base edition) which then drops to 29.99 after 6 months with an additional 400,000 units at 14.99 because their next version of the game comes out soon to replace the previous one?

>>716350772
damn, I've heard about nintendo fucking people over back in the snes days with cartridges or some shit like that but i never knew it was anything this bad. the craziest part is they advertise themselves as a kids game system, while they're nasty businessmen behind the scenes. reminds me of disney.

>>716353262
That guy is a schizo btw.

>>716353323
>still using the term schizo in 2025
I bet you're going to tell me to take my meds next, right?

>>716348730 (OP)
>They could have went with a different chip maker so devs could buy smaller carts like they did on Switch.
They could just use Switch 1 cartridges. Most games don't need super fast data transfer. And even if they need, you can just copy some of the data to internal storage.

>>716353145
>words words words
Cope, tendie.

>>716353323
i thought he was shot dead

>>716353262
>>716350772
Samefag

>>716350772
>words words words
Cope, PC vegan

>>716353145
All this tells me is that third-party publishers may sell as many units of software as Nintendo's first-party games, but only if they're priced far lower than Nintendo's games. So, it still rings true that Nintendo consumers don't want third-party games on their Nintendo. If they did, they'd spend just as much on third-party games as they do on first-party games.

Additionally, Nintendo is the only platform where first-party sales in units or revenue are that high. Playstation, Xbox, Steam, Google Play/App store, etc are all dominated by third-party titles.

>>716353870
>>716349796
Daily reminder to ESLs:

If only there was a format that was way, way cheaper than meme NAND flash cards, and that could retain information if left unplugged for three years...

>>716352778
>Capcom only put RE zero in the originis collection
>Captom only put RE4 on the trilogy pack
>Capcom only put megaman x part 1 on the collection
Thank fucking god the best Megaman collection is also the only one complete in the fucking cartridge. And i'm still surprised the MvC collection is complete on the cartridge too..

>>716353870
Why would I buy first parties on my Sony?

I am a digital PC + Nintendo chad so I give zero shits. Switch 2 for Nintendo games, Steam for literally everything else.

Physicucks make me laugh. You wrte always destined to lose this battle ever since Switch 1 lost. Just accept the digital pill and finally be free.

>>716354265
What the fuck you mean Switch 1 lost? It's the best selling console of its generation.

>>716354265
No thanks. I'll continue owning my games for as long as it's possible.

>>716354024
mira mijo es un nintendo. no me digas nada mas.

>fill smash with third parties
>doesn't want third parties to sell

>>716353870
The charts mean that Nintendo makes more revenue because their games are priced higher for a longer time. Nintendo thinks about long term sales, 1 title for the entire span of a consoles' lifetime for the most part (only 1 Mario Kart, only 1 Mario Odyssey, only 1 Animal Crossing). Third parties only care about short term profit so they release a fuck you Ultimate edition at $90+ USD with empty promises of season passes and shit, and then in 6 months the game is on sale 50% or more because they need to get rid of the copies for the next version. Think sports games, movie games, mostly AAA slop. Its genuinely big budget shovelware. It isn't made to last, it's just there to keep the customer happy for a few days and move on to the next slop.

PlayStation heavily relies on third party sales (because they get a cut from licensing) so it's why they don't sell a lot of first party units: they don't have any fucking games to sell. People forget that midway through PS4, Sony moved to California and basically stopped developing games because CoD, GTA, Minecraft, Sports, etc were bringing in so much money that they didn't bother making games. Look at how naughty dog has only worked on a single IP for the past 15+ years and then Sony at the same time refused to marker something like Days Gone, which was by the Syphon Filter devs, in favor of Horizon slop which has a fucking Lego tie in for Switch.

>Disgaea 7 Complete limited edition is a game key card
>has been easily their worst selling limited edition of all time
>is still at 100% stock despite being available for order for over a month
Hope they learn from this.

>>716348730 (OP)
but genuinely, what happens when the switch servers go offline, be it 10 or 20 or 30 years. however long it takes, once it inevitably happens, what will happen to all these digital only games? i guess the same could be said for all the stuff on steam. is all of this media just going to be lost forever to the sands of time? tons of kids today wont be able to play their favorite childhood games once these companies go under or decide to end service? i know nothing lasts forever, but this just seems silly, short-sighted, and anticonsumer.

>>716354160
>the MvC collection is complete
But censored. You just cannot fucking win with Capcom. (I boight it on deep discount with the little shitty comic because FUCK Capcom).

Also is the Battle Network collection complete?

>>716354265
Switch 1 literally saved physical game media.

>>716355147
No-Intro folks have been preserving Xbox Live (and Nintendo Switch Online) content for years. I'm sure that once a way to dump Nintendo Switch 2 games is found, they'll be preserved.

>>716355147
It will be backed up somewhere for download if people archive it and Republicans don't make it illegal.

You will probably have to hack your console to play them. For Steam you'll just need some kinda Steam DRM removed or patcher.

>>716355051
You make it sound like third-party publishers would not what Nintendo has: Putting out a game for a high-price that consumers continue to buy years later at the same price. Nintendo consumers do not value third-party titles in the same way they value Nintendo titles.

Playstation/Xbox/Steam/Google Play/App Store all rely on third-party titles. That's the norm. Nintendo is the outlier.

>>716348730 (OP)
it's interesting to see nintendo behaving a bit like a third party publisher themselves with their tight hype to release cycles, seemingly being really careful not to cannibalize their own titles.
if nintendo platforms have become, as people like to argue on vee, a place to play nintendo first party titles...why should they even make a console anymore if they could just not, and make a bunch more money?
i don't say this because i'm dying to play their games; if i wanted to i'd buy a switch. but it's a question of why even have a platform if there are so many headaches around it and nintendo is having to go to such extremes as game key cards and weird DRM to make their business even make sense.
switch 2 felt inevitable, but whatever comes after it seems like a BIG question mark to me

>>716355410
>Republicans don't make it illegal
Bill Clinton signed the DMCA into existence, faggot.
https://pluralistic.net/2025/05/26/babyish-radical-extremists/

>>716348730 (OP)
Just like the Wii U generation. Nintendo forced every dev to mandatory use the game pad. It made the whole game run worse, because the Wii U was under powered for ps3 games and making it run on both screens at the same time made the Wii U struggle.

Thats why third party games left the Wii.
PS3 games ran worse.
Being forced to make your game use the gamepad.
People bought the PS3/360 superior versions instead.

Thats what killed it. And the same will happen with the Switch 2 when the key cards dont sell and the Switch 2 struggle running newer games.

>>716355525
They put the games at a HIGHER price than Nintendo. Third parties normalized $90+ USD day 1 editions/ultimate editions.

Nintendo is the outlier because when was the last fucking time any of those other companies actually put out a good first party game?

>>716355167
>Battle Network
that shit willl never be megaman, i dont give a shit about it

>>716355665
>Blaming Clinton for Lehman's Jewish tricks

>>716355771
>that shit willl never be megaman
And that's why it's good.

Smallest game card on Switch 2 is 64GB. That shouldn't be too expensive. A 64GB SD card is about 10 bucks and that's flash not ROM.

>>716355740
According to you, third-parties may price their titles higher than Nintendo at the start, but quickly drop their prices far below Nintendo prices. On average, according to you, Nintendo prices hold better, for longer, and offer Nintendo better profitability. So, why don't third-party publishers do the same thing? Because they can't, especially on Nintendo platforms. Because Nintendo consumers do not care for their games the same way they care for Nintendo games.

None of the other companies rely on first-party titles. They don't really care that much at the end of the day. Unlike Nintendo, they just want to be platforms where they can profit off of other publisher titles. Nintendo is independent of that relationship and can supply its platforms with content mostly by itself. Yet that advantage seems to be a disadvantage to you.

You seem to want more over-priced, poorly-made, third-party titles on Nintendo platforms.

>>716355952
Clinton himself chose him to do exactly that.
>Nominated by President Bill Clinton on April 23, 1993, he was confirmed by the United States Senate on August 5, 1993.
Once again, fuck off, faggot.

>>716348730 (OP)
They're probably assblasted Microsoft's Minecraft outsold every game on Switch 1

>>716348730 (OP)
>a different chip maker so devs could buy smaller carts like they did on Switch.
that exists, it's called "optimize your game and release a switch 1 game"

>>716348730 (OP)
The third parties pushed for this shit. They fucked around and they're finding out

>>716349796
Well duh all multiplats look and run like shit on the Switch.