>War Thunder but no 1000+ hour grind
>DCS but no checklist tedium or 300+ gb file size
>Ace Combat but the gameplay isn't braindead
>Project Wingman but even more nukes
Nuclear Option saved flight sims

>Nuclear Option but no shilling

>>716369472 (OP)
Wish I wasn't so shit at it.
>load up with missiles
>take down two targets
>die with 90% of my payload unfired

Looks like shit

I like Ace Combat

I really like this game but it needs like 3 times as much content as it currently has. I just want to see more planes, more maps and more different weapons. Plus the entire UI needs completely redone from the ground up.

>>716369472 (OP)
I don't actually like flight games but I've been trying to convince myself otherwise for years

>>716369472 (OP)
Barebones jank game. Nice try shill. It didn't save shit, it's not a sim and offers nothing to compete with arcade games like Ace Combat either.

>>716370102
I want more planes so factions can have exclusive rosters.

>>716370102
Yeah, the UI and menus are awful. The available content is also extremely lacking. It relies heavily on being a "sandbox" but is pretty shallow overall.

How the fuck is there no A-10 in this game? The machine guns in general are pretty lame, they have mediocre armor penetration for how little ammo you get.
It's weird that the game takes place in the near future but all they could think of besides the Madusa is
>air missiles
>ground missiles
>bombs
>shitty bombs nobody uses
>machine guns with less ammo than your missile load

>>716369472 (OP)
>No progression
>No simulation
>No gameplay
>"Not like Ace Combat but exactly like the ridiculous balls off the wall parody of Ace Combat."
Can't believe I share a board with such a low IQ specimen.

>>716369938
I've gotten pretty good at flying up till about the Ifrit after reading up on a few guides. Anything beyond that I think I get too cocky and I end up getting nailed pretty fast.

Love the tarantula too but by the point it's flyable without getting beamed by 10 different AA missiles people are already dropping nukes on the enemy.

>>716370264
yeah it is hard to make a full featured game with 2-3 devs that’s not some 2d JRPG or Roguelike. It’s fine for what it is though

>>716370414
The A-10 as a concept was obsolete at its introduction, it should be telling it got more vehicle kills with Mavericks than its gun.

>>716369472 (OP)
>Flares basically don't work, especially on helicopters so they have zero missile evasion options
>AI is basically braindead and will often crash into each other on the ground all trying to taxi and takeoff at once
>Barely any missions or content
>Aircraft all essentially handle the same and there are no performance penalties or limitations to loading one down with as many bombs or missiles possible
>Overall lacks a lot of polish and has the most placeholder UI of all time

This game could be good, but it has taken many years to get where it is in early access right now and likely will be many years before it reaches any sort of potential it has. Assuming the dev doesn't just give up at some point.

>>716370816
Don't care, rule of cool.

>>716369472 (OP)
Calling this game a sim in any way is the biggest lie I've ever heard. It simulates nothing, it is purely arcade. The AI will completely ignore wind direction and land on runways in the opposite direction they should be. I've had them repeatedly crash into me on takeoff doing that. Besides that, the aircraft do not handle like a sim at all and the game is clearly made for controller.

>>716371227
Who the fuck called it a sim? The person in your head?

>>716371281
OP literally did

>>716371281
OP

>Slight uptick in NO threads across some boards
>People are turning against it now
Class 4chan contrarianism in action

Is a joystick mandatory for this game?

I tried playing the tutorial missions with kbm but I have a hard time flying straight since the plane will drift into some other direction unless my mouse reticle isn't absolutely perfect on center. Is there a trick to this or should I just practice more.

>>716372285
No. It plays best on a controller.

>>716370874
>>Flares basically don't work, especially on helicopters so they have zero missile evasion options
what the fuck are you even doing? How can you be this wrong? Are you only dropping one flare when a missile is approaching? Not cutting off the afterburner? Except you said "especially" in the helicopter, so that can't be it because the flares are extremely effective on the heli. Using flares against radar guided missiles?
>>Aircraft all essentially handle the same and there are no performance penalties or limitations to loading one down with as many bombs or missiles possible
This is also wrong, though there isn't as much penalty for flying with a full loadout as I'd expect. Though the main penalty is the increased RCS.
The AI is definitely completely retarded. Lack of missions is at least partially made up for by the mission editor and the autists that actually have the patience to use it and upload shit to the workshop. Personally I don't mind too much since I'm in it for the multiplayer. However only having the two maps really sucks.

>>716370102
It needs map that is at least 300x300km of actual land which has room for longer sorties and logistics planes

>>716370067
Me too
I'm trans, btw

>>716371227
>Besides that, the aircraft do not handle like a sim at all and the game is clearly made for controller.
The planes feel arcade because actual planes with fly-by-wire feel arcade. Falcon 4.0/BMS Falcon is the most realistic simulator ever created, and it feels absolutely on-rails because an actual F-16 feels on-rails. The planes computers are doing a thousand little inputs for you to smooth things out. All the flips and goofy shit you can do in an Ifrit/Revoker are just things real Su-30s/F-22s can do at actual airshows because having a >1.1 TWR and thrust vectoring just lets you ignore aerodynamics.

The dev was demonstrating the physics on a stream, and the everything from washout/transonic drag/wing twist/vortex rings/flapping/coningetc was being simulated on the helicopter rotors, so the actual effort in aerodynamics was there. I agree with you on AI being stupid at airports though

>>716374558
>Falcon 4.0/BMS Falcon is the most realistic simulator ever created,
Lmao

No

>>716374558
The reason BMS models on rails easy mode flight for the F16, is its FM engine can't model dynamic stalls or spins, you fucking retard

>>716370414
I think the current roadmap is
>utility helicopter (august update)
>dedicated CAS plane
>supersonic light bomber
No idea what the new CAS is gonna be. I'd rather see a futuristic A-1 Skyraider more than an A-10 Warthog desu. Like a mega-Tucano with the engine off a Tu-95 Bear.

>>716374558
>BMS Falcon is the most realistic simulator ever created

....

>>716369472 (OP)
>1/10000 the complexity the autists want in their flying game
trash

>>716374558
>The planes feel arcade because actual planes with fly-by-wire feel arcade.

No they fucking do not. I am a pilot irl and that is not true.

>>716374558
Fucking moron

/simg/ here,
Disregard
>716374558
Not even giving him a (you)

>>716370874
>>Flares basically don't work, especially on helicopters so they have zero missile evasion options
skill issue, you suck. throttle back, dont point your fartpipe directly at the enemy seeker, use multiple flares (or just pre-flare)
>>AI is basically braindead and will often crash into each other on the ground all trying to taxi and takeoff at once
They arent awful in combat but their taxi behavior is pretty shit, and tarantulas just suicide 30% of the time when trying to deliver something
>>Barely any missions or content
Not many short scenario missions, but there are lots of user missions, and you can get lots of hours out of escalation/terminal control/confrontation
>>Aircraft all essentially handle the same and there are no performance penalties or limitations to loading one down with as many bombs or missiles possible
the weight comment is just lying, you can very easily tell the difference between a plane at MTOW and one lightly loaded, or even if you have an asymmetric load with heavy bombs/missiles

the flight models aren't super characterful, but I noticed some differences while doing dogfight training
>vortex loses energy FAST and you basically need to end a fight in the first turn against the others
>the compass has a crazy sustained turn rate (and roll rate) and can 2-circle most fighters, but loses in the vertical for obvious reasons
>the revoker doesnt have the same roll authority as the compass/ifrit at low speeds, but makes up for it with amazing yaw due to 3D vectoring nozzle
>the ifrit is just better than everything else in most cases, but thats kinda the point for the price
there are enough differences to matter, at least in fights against other players

>>Overall lacks a lot of polish and has the most placeholder UI of all time
true

>early access
come back when your game is released, mr. dev.

>>716370067
Based shit eater

>>716372431
>>716376750
None of this desperate damage control is true. Fuck off shill.

>>716370067
Based translez ally, can I call you "buddy" please?

>>716370874
>Flares basically don't work, especially on helicopters so they have zero missile evasion options

Seconding this. They work ok on the planes albeit a bit buggy, but do absolutely nothing when playing as the helos. The radar jamming works far more consistently.

>>716372431
What killed OP?

>>716370067
The Nuclear Option shills didn't like this one...

>>716377808
Probably a radar guided missile. Even at full afterburner that many flares would've defeated an IR missile.
The UI tells you what kind of missiles are incoming, but not when you're fucking around in 3rd person.
>>716377371
My main point of contention is that flares work. This is objectively true and not even hard to test.