Thread 716371759

They claim it's an old style that's been done a million times, but it's a new style that hasn't been done once.
I've never seen a game that has a distant skybox (castle) and a closer skybox (the town and distant road), where the closer flat 2D skybox seamlessly becomes a 3D world made of 2D billboard sprites when you approach it. It's implied that this would happen all the way to the castle.
They seem to deny what they're actually seeing with their eyes and lazily lump it in with an existing style.
>it's just like Daggerfall!
WRONG. Daggerfall has a normal skybox with 2D billboard sprites that pop in out of no where. The terrain is also not completely flat like Daggerfall.
>it's just like [fully 3D polygon game]
WRONG. It's a 2D skybox that becomes a 3D play space made of 2D billboard sprites. Fully 3D vistas look different.
>it's voxels
WRONG. Voxels are 3D cubes. What are you seeing that suggests this could be made with voxels? The distance would look nothing like a flat skybox and the close things would look nothing like 2D billboard sprites. These retards see a bit of pixelation and shout voxel for some reason.
>it's been done a million times
ok, name one game and post video proof. There's been tens of threads and not a single game that replicates this style.

>>716371759 (OP)
This isn't a game either you mongoloid.

>>716371759 (OP)
>hasn't been done once.
that old sega dinosaur Jurassic Park game looked similar

>>716371759 (OP)
I'd pay $100 for this video game.

>>716372131
Coincidentally Im making something similar. It wont be ready for a while though. It was going to be free but after seeing this trend I might charge.

why is the sword handle fucked up

Same reason why big swarthy cock mindbreaks white women. They’re just so much bigger than small white dicks… And tall, dark, and handsome men are just so much more manlier too compared to white boys…

>>716371759 (OP)
using pure 2d you would still need to use 3d to accomplish this UNLESS you could only walk straight. Otherwise if you moved to the left or right of the path it would appear disconnected if you turned back to look at it. Such a game would literally require 3d. You would basically need to map the 2d segments to a 3 dimensional sphere, which is the perfect use case for kind of math that 3d games use. Without doing the normal 3d transformations the game would either be grossly optimized or very bad looking at off-angles

>>716372201
You are a fucking nigger AND nobody is going to buy your shit.

>>716372201
see >>716372310

>>716372301
It's AI, but It's okay, I never expected a dumb ape like you to notice.

>>716372601
>WRONG
>WRONG
>WRONG
lmao struck a nerve lil pixel shitter. get some pussy

>>716372086
2/2 I think this is what I am remembering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQj8tH5sg84

I grew up playing the shit out of Hexen, becuse it was the only game beside Mario 64 I had.

>>716373046
this is even clearer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvDpogQ0w-w

>>716371759 (OP)
anything that doesn't require gorillions of vram and the latest AI features is non-kosher

>>716371759 (OP)
I don't care if it has been done before or not. I don't care if it's AI. If someone makes a game that looks like this and doesn't have any woke bullshit I will gladly pay full price

>>716372201
Godspeed anon

>>716372547
Fuck off

>>716373107
This is actually pretty cool IMHO
thanks for sharing

>>716371759 (OP)
The technique is called the parallax effect and it's used in many games. Typically, game devs use it on windows to make a flat 2D texture look like it's a 3D room. Walt Disney famously used parallax in many of his cartoons which he show cases here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdHTlUGN1zw

Your game is similar to Arena and Daggerfall. It's a blend of 2D and 3D. The world is 3D, but it uses sprites. In the video, your guy doesn't turn his head, which will break the illusion. Once he turns his head, the 2D textures will turn to face him, the same problem with Daggerfall. This art style doesn't get used for a very good reason.

>>716371759 (OP)
its not even the pixels, there has been first person games with pixel work before. The clip looks good because the composition is cracked up. Lit midground with the big castle in the background. It has a good sense of scale. Wizordium, Hexen or Daggerfall dont have that. Really its a fantasy because the pixel work wont hold up i think unless its some downsampling shader thing

>>716372601
>>716371759 (OP)

Angry pajeet is angry

>>716371759 (OP)
I don't mind it in other styles but with the same sense of scale. All the talk about this are missing that and just focused on the technical aspects.

>I fuckin love science! Just learn to code incel! Progress is a good thing! Automation is the only way forward.
>WAIT GO BACK!! I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING PAID TO DRAW! I COULDNT FORSEE THIS HAPPENING TO MEEEEEE!!!!

>right click, SAVED! Yup that NFT is mine now, chud!
>DELETE MY PICTURES FROM YOUR DATABASE NOWWWW

>It's a ROMHACK it's not copyright infringement! It's a fan inspired transformative work! Fuck the lawyers at Nintendo!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE AI IS USING MY ART WITHOUT PERMISSION AND TRANSFORMING IT INTO SOMETHING NEW!!

>Gatekeeping is BAD! Everything is for everyone! We will take the thing you love and corrupt it into a husk of its former greatness, and that's a good thing!
>YOU CANT JUST GENERATE 100000 ANIME GIRL IMAGES! THIS IS CORRUPTING THE MEANING OF ART!! PICK UP A PENCIL IF YOU WANT TO BE AN ARTIST

>Don't bully a learning artist. Not every detail needs to be perfectly accurate, it's called a style! Everyone, no matter how skilled, is valid and amazing!
>IS THAT AN OUT OF PLACE ELBOW??? IS THE LEFT ARM SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN THE RIGHT?? THIS IS SHIT! YOU NEED TO HAVE PERFECT ANATOMY LIKE THOSE RACIST ROMAN STATUES I WANT TO TEAR DOWN!

>heh, god isn't real CHUD. there is no afterlife, you WILL decompose in a box, you WILL become dust! We're all just sacks of meat floating on a rock in space!!
>NOOOO AI ART LACKS HUMAN SOUL! IT LACKS INSPIRATION AND HUMAN SPIRIT! THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE HUMAN ARE BEING SHAKEN TO THEIR CORE!!

>Anything can be art! Two homosexuals shitting in eachother's mouths? Wholesome! A banana taped to a wall?? Inspiring! Everything is ART!
>NOOOO THIS CANT BE ART IT'S NOT PERFECT ENOUGH!!! UGH, JUST LOOK AT THE ARTIFACTS AND THE HAIR AND THE HAND ITS JUST ALLL WRONG!!! ITS NOT REAL ART! TYPING SHIT INTO A TERMINAL AND GETTING AN IMAGE OUT ISNT ART (throwing my own shit against a wall and putting a frame around it is THOUGH)

>>716371759 (OP)
I wish it was real. It looks like the Ravenloft game we will never get.

>>716373679
Based

>>716371759 (OP)
A lot of games using the Super Scaler line of boards did similar sprite layering. Many of them involved similar layered sprites and a lot of them used fixed paths for their gameplay, but desu if I were to develop a game like that webm I'd use other references for the gameplay itself.
Here's a ref of a later Super Scaler game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvDpogQ0w-w

Programming mastermind Ullililia pioneered parallax 15 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81wvSiYPVHU

I'm trying to think of the games that used scaling 2d graphics that match what OP had.

The closest thing I can think of is something like
Aliens 3 the gun. Emulation doesn't quite get the distance fog effects right. Check the outdoor stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2cqgU4u3-w


Also, lucky and wild because they're fucking awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er6T1mwV_XA

Fallen Aces uses parallax skyboxes, while also using cel-shaded 3D art. It's probably the best blend you'll get without going full sprite autism like in the OP or Daggerfall.

>>716371759 (OP)
It’s called parallax scrolling. You should have learned this when you made your first 2d sidescroller game… Is it just me or are AIfags always really uneducated?

>>716375090
>uhm actually
None of that shit matters. What matters is that >we don't have a game that looks like this with the same quality and composition.

>>716375147
No it doesn't. OP's clip has zero gameplay. So, it's attention getting AI slop, so what"?

>>716373103
And it looks nothing like OP and all the maps are small doom sized shitters

>>716375350
>OP's clip has zero gameplay

Walking forward, possibly emerging for the first time from the tutorial cave, now you're in a psuedo cutscene like when you leave the Vault in Fallout 3 or when the color changes when you first enter Blight town in Dark Souls

>>716373107
Man, what a bullshit difficulty game

>>716371759 (OP)
This is what I thought Legend of Grimrock 2 was gonna be, but it turned out to still be a shitty dungeon crawler only in a slightly bigger dungeon

>>716372201
just make it free and provide a cash shop with gay fursuits, you will make bank and everyone will play

>>716376040
Unless it has DRM, who would pay for that?

>>716371759 (OP)
>>716373679
SAAAAAAAR

>>716372131
me too

>>716372201
ill only buy it if its largely made with ai

>>716371759 (OP)
Can it be just ai video ?

https://youtu.be/2SgQyOxcC7U

https://youtu.be/22jJXVznNT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REVeHmh4Avs

https://youtu.be/fv9DNvJ6k00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqdcw5-rzRQ

Btw here are some of the best AI presidents videos I've seen

>>716371759 (OP)
>boomers
Just bootlickers. However, I'd be reasonable if it were sold, as it would be made from stuff we can just gen ourselves for free.

Well you can "play" it right now
https://youtu.be/VgJ8QEFlz4Y?si=Hh8bciSEHedtIG5P

>>716373679
shadow boxing final boss

>>716371759 (OP)
That's literally just Skyrim in VR

>>716375350
>infinite AI walking simulator in fantasy worlds
>overlay of inventory puzzles
Bam, a game

I just want a walking RPG with comfy atmosphere, cool artstyle and no woke shit
Is this that much to ask for?

>>716382798
TES games exist

>>716382841
Played the shit out of them
Did Morrowind eith tr play through like 2 months ago

Why is there such a large crossover between leftism and being anti-AI? Literally every anti-AI zealot I see on X screaming about how it needs to be banned and it’s not real art also has a Palestine flag in bio and considers themself a socialist.

the usual 5's on the apple scale NPCs can't imagine/visualise how a full game like the OP video would be.

>>716382905
well (nu)righter wingers can't make art so AI is their only cope/hope

>>716382973
Sad trvth nvke
Muttistan has lost its sovl

>>716382973
show me your art

>daytime
>torch
why?

>>716382973
If AI art is this good now, how good do you think it will be in 10 years?

>>716383058
nope,
I have seen you guys call genuinely great art 'slop,' so I don't believe you have any integrity or sense of fairness

>>716383092
Because you equipped it and didn't go to the inventory screen to unequip it.

>>716383125
I bet you draw furry and other degenerate slop

>>716383116
If it's so good, why aren't there more video games mostly made by AI? And I'm not talking about just some voice lines or background textures

>>716383159
nope but i know for sure that you don't make anything

>>716383125
because you know ai can do better than anything you can

>>716383192
Not xim but to my knowledge ai cant really generate 3d models yet

>>716375147
>castle is bigger than the mountain it sits on, when in reality it should be smaller than the distant buildings.

what did Indian AI users mean by this?

>>716383192
Well, which is it, is AI art slop or is it dangerous because it will replace artists? It cannot be both.

>>716383291
I do. I know for sure you don't make anything anyone likes.

oh boy can't wait for more slop like this

>>716373809
But there are two Ravenloft games?

>>716383334
I'll level with you
both things are true. AI is mostly slop. useless unless adjusted and curated by a real artist and it will replace artists, because corporations don't care about quality if it means better margins

>>716383303
it can but you still need skills to use those models

>You like AI
>but I don't like AI...
>therefor I don't think you should have access to AI and it should be taken away from you
Why are anti-ai fags such nazis?

>>716383390
what do you make?

>>716383507
That makes no sense though. Customers still want good art in video games. If artists cannot produce art which is better and cheaper to produce in the market, they are not providing value.

>>716383621
music

It's because all art sucks now and going back to 80s-90s art is the peak of art in the modern era. People who have consumed art from this era are nostalgic for it. Think about how Graphics and games have stagnated for the past 10 years at least. Even modern interpretations of 80s entertainment like DnD are tainted (think Critical Role, or just modern DnD in general. Think of Warcraft or Blizzard). This is reminiscent to the way things were.

>>716383672
good for you man, best of luck with that stuff

>>716383756
ai can do it better

>>716383639
>Customers still want good art in video games.
look up us and uk best sellers
it's nigger ball and COD
same goes for any medium really

>>716371759 (OP)
>>>pa/g/eet

The reason a lot of people like AI is because video game developers (especially artists and voice actors) have become extremely arrogant and push tranny and leftist politics instead of being apolitical, as well as pushing communistic labor unions that behave like a mafia. So we are HAPPY they are being replaced by AI.

>>716383391
what the fuck is this
>andypants
Huh?

>>716383824
But it can't do it like you can
it has you in it, and some human value. If you made or played a song for your sweetheart, it would mean something. But even a much better AI song wouldn't mean nearly as much

>>716383912
based Christian AI game

>>716383843
I like it because it's insane. It can generate shit nobody has thought of. Completely original weird/out there/off the rails shit.
Everything today is too safe, cookie cutter paint by numbers safe. With ai there's hope to go back more raw insanity again.

>>716383843
Literally only (You) do this shit. Keep cheering for oligarchs over workers you dumb fucker.

>>716383928
it can. it can do it better. It can generate a track in 30 seconds which I'd never be able to make in 30 years.

it's neat but that's it
make a playable game and not a 5 second video and maybe you'll get (non indian) people who'll defend it instead of dismissing it

>>716383714
I believe people still make great art
they just don't get hired as often, or they don't have creative freedom.
I followed a really good artist whose old page was full of kino, but his new portfolio was mostly generic mobile game slop, because that's what his employers wanted

>>716384067
>which I'd never be able to make in 30 years
That's incredibly sad to say.

>>716371759 (OP)
It's a very kino aesthetic but it is also literally just a linear path. It would take some artistic vision to make sure different areas are also as aesthetic.
And then you need to put a game in there somewhere.

People calling it slop are just bitter

>>716384067
I think your mom would like yours more.
People don’t put AI shit on their fridge (few retards probably do). they put silly drawings made by their kids, because those have value and meaning.

>>716384031
I admire rich people though, I hope they fuck over you commie troons hard.

>>716384121
>"complex low-fi 8bit synth tracker music, arpeggiated, fast, electronic"

https://voca.ro/16DvaCg4rwu3
this took about 20 seconds

>>716384208
It works the same as the old racing games that was 2D, it's all a predefined path.

It's possible to recreate but I'm too shit on the art side to make it look good. It's basically just using different prerendered sprites as LODs. It also doesn't look nearly as good if you're walking on normal terrain. The videos always generate walking down hill with a castle on a hill which allows more of the scene to be visible.

>>716384031
>Keep cheering for oligarchs over workers you dumb fucker
>Cheers for 3rd world invader scab labor

>>716384459
>Cheers for 3rd world invader scab labor
I don't. Don't project.

>>716383489
Yeah and they are shit

>>716384459
and by oligarchs no less
Leftists really are the most useful of idiots

>>716384224
>ai generated textures and gameplay shouldn't exist because mom can't stick them to a fridge
lol

>>716371759 (OP)
What's next? AI invented anime art-style? fucking retards

>>716371759 (OP)
So how many times is this gonna get posted now, just asking

>>716384439
Yeah the vertical depth is really what makes the scene. You'd need hill environments with some immediate contrast at all times.
OP without the tall trees is far more boring

>>716383332
How do you know it's not just a really big castle?

>>716384646
aye i am not asking for any regulation, i got dolphin running on my pc.
i just think this fucking hype is gay
op GIF is just daggerfall with newer teach, a much bigger budget and wrong perspective/scale

>>716371759 (OP)
Because you don't understand what 'style' means

>>716384224
My dad has a AI generated image of himself as a pirate that I made hung up in his study

>>716384958
gotta be honest that's good dad shit

>>716384693
As long as it still mindbreaks the anti AI losers.

>>716373679
lol. based

>>716371759 (OP)
It's always funny to me that people go crazy for shit like this, it's just a video nothing more.
There is no code, no gameplay and no interaction it's a simple gif and even as a animation it's mediocre at best.
I genuinely believe that AI is so popular in India and other 3rd world countries because those people never had a real art/animation/creative scene like the west and some parts of Asia have, and they are so enchanted by the thought of creating something that they start to go overboard.

Bravery is not a function of firepower.

>>716382594
Something like those old Dracula games?

>>716384336
That's not 8bit or lo-fi

>>716372056
>why isn't your concept art a finished product?
Luddites aren't sending their best today.

>>716386307
Not sure which ones you're referring to

>>716373046
>>716372086
First time someone post an old game that's actually vaguely in the ballpark graphics-wise.

>>716384336
Sounds decent, if a bit generic and trendy. I feel like all these music gen models have serious recency bias which I hate because almost all recent music is pure garbage. Another problem is you can't tweak this. You can't go "Oh yeah that's almost perfect but I want to change this, this, and this note, or this chord." All you can do is basically throw away the whole thing and try again. You're playing gacha with finished songs instead of being able to slowly build and refine toward something perfect.

>>716381076
this kek

>>716386375
there were a first person view puzzle (iirc) Dracula games where you clicked on interactables and solve puzzles in order to proceed the story or something. I think it was picrel

>>716372547
Why you heff to be mad?

>>716371759 (OP)
Someone posted this mp4. It's a voxel based approach with voxels being camera facing quads instead of cubes. You can see how this sort of approach could be further developed to possibly nail the style.

Anything that's done to convert it into an actual game with explorable space and camera control will make some compromises because that AI clip is what the AI hallucinated. It is just a video of a thing that sort of looks like it could be a game.

>>716371759 (OP)
>I've never seen a game that has a distant skybox (castle) and a closer skybox (the town and distant road), where the closer flat 2D skybox seamlessly becomes a 3D world made of 2D billboard sprites when you approach it
It's called anime
(PS : there's no 3D in this picture)

>>716371759 (OP)
are you having imaginary conversations with nonexistent individualsi in fabricated scenarios again
nigga seek help
nobody cares about your ai slop btw
buy an ad

>>716374036
That's kinda neat but obviously only works on rails. Then again you could do a CYOA type fantasy game on rails using this style. Would be interesting to see.

>>716388243
slap the fantasy skybox on and make the billboards more dynamic and you are halfway there

>>716388458
Wasn't the point that it isn't a skybox but a place you can go to? I think that's what people want.

It mindbreaks zoomers, boomers are the ones that know it'd play like a prettier Daggerfall

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Hope you fags are reposting this fucking EVERYWHERE on the internet.
Zoomies are gonna have a fucking field day with this.

>>716388561
No, because the perspective and scale in the AI slope are wrong. If a fully functioning castle were actually that far away, it would look different.
So the only way to do that would be to use a skybox with a loading screen when you get close.
You can use a 3D model, but then again, you need to choose between grad scale composition or seamless functionality

>>716386301
Turdies think AI will allow them to catch up. They don't realize they're behind because they're the way they are, holding themselves back.

>>716371984
>>716372056
Go away, somehow op is in the right (??)

>>716388713
Yeah that's why I said you'd inevitably have to make compromises if trying to convert it into a playable space.

Personally I'd much rather see a castle in the distance I can go to than a skybox with a castle painted on it. The castle would have to be like 1/10th of the size for the scale to make sense.

>>716373679
>AI IS [...] TRANSFORMING IT INTO SOMETHING NEW!!
lmao no it isnt.

>>716373107
Very good!

>>716388746
Sure, let's ignore the west exploiting them for centuries. China is elevating them (so that they can unload their high quality goods there)

>>716379165
>>716382905
>>716383116
>>716383298
>>716383334
>>716385428
SAAAAAAAAAR

>>716388870
yeah you can't have your cake and eat it too
for your pref there's kcd and ER

>>716389005
Money launderer. Open ai will never be profitable without goverment gibs.

>>716388968
These ancient civilizations in Asia had thousands of years to develop and they never did. Everything modern they have were given to them by the westerners. Even with all the modern wonders given to them they still live shitting on the streets and living in filth.

Meanwhile a tiny country like Finland with no meaningful history to speak of only needed a couple decades to build a modern nation that's among the best places to live.

It's a difference in the people.

>>716389005
>>716389104
Reminder that Altman is a pedophile who raped his sister.

>>716388968
>have millennia to accomplish anything
>fail to do so
>blame all your failures on the 3-400 years where europeans ruled you

>>716371759 (OP)
AI won, luddites will seethe

Some day

>>716389104
OpenAI is immensely profitable to its employees. The money is just coming from big bucks investors, not losers like you.

>>716386435
>All you can do is basically throw away the whole thing and try again
why bother pretending you know how it works when in reality you have no idea.
You can go in and edit sections , rework structures, delete parts very simply. It isn't anything like "if you don't like part then the whole song is gone" at all.

>>716371759 (OP)
I'd live in that castle.

>>716389540
Yeah I know you can inpaint, but you're still just gacha-ing but on a smaller scale. You can't edit the individual notes and chords and instruments surgically the way you can in a real DAW.

>>716389587
I'd live it in to, I'd be in library and trade spell scrolls to any trespassers, for the right amount of gold. No need to let the owner of the castle know.

>>716389375
funny that this could be a loading screen for a generic pixelated indie turn-based rpg when you fast-travel

>>716389587
they rape in there

>>716389367
>>716389467
SAAAAAAAAAR

>>716371759 (OP)
>WRONG. Voxels are 3D cubes. What are you seeing that suggests this could be made with voxels? The distance would look nothing like a flat skybox and the close things would look nothing like 2D billboard sprites. These retards see a bit of pixelation and shout voxel for some reason

fully retarded, a game like this would have to be made with voxels otherwise it wouldn't be 3d pixel art, Voxels can be 2d it depends on the cameras viewpoint ya muppet

>>716389171
>>716389327
these posts made the streetshitters strangely quiet

>>716389189
Ye, somehow isn't mentioned often in media, that the dropout is a sex offender and an incestuap one at that.

>>716389375
Hopefully soon. Next year according to musk le deodorant.
>>716389467
And those investors get their money usually from government. Of course such details don't bother you, Mr econ.

>>716371759 (OP)
Now turn the character around

>>716389737
What are UAE using gpt for? Is anyone even using it as non entertainment?

>>716371759 (OP)
Gaming boomer here, this doesn't mindbreak me at all, I like the aesthetic because it has a classic dark fantasy style, however there are issues with what the AI generated
1) the perspective is off on the hands and their positioning on the screen
2) there's no obvious gameplay, I can play go back and run between towns in Daggerfall to get the experience of this video
3) I dislike the fact that it's portrait instead of landscape

sage to not bump a bait thread

Wow I can't wait for this to never be implemented in anything

>>716390147
exactly, it's a voxel game with an excellent LOD system for the distant objects and landscape, it reminds me of the "distant horizons" mod for minecrap

>>716386370
retard

>>716373679
>artists were telling people to learn to code
what retarded schizo shit is this

>>716371759 (OP)
>spin around
>entire landscape changes and maintains absolutely no continuity whatsoever
thrilling

>>716373679
i really don't think any drawfag likes to give out job advice

>>716391324
That's basically the jist of what I'm getting in this thread. What is depicted in that AI image is impossible to make. hmmm... okay.

>>716371759 (OP)
>but it's a new style that hasn't been done once.
Looks like sega's super scaler arcade games. Fuck off, zoom zoom.