What went wrong?

I don't even know where to begin. Probably the biggest mistake was shifting from a horror theme to a sci-fi theme.

>>716381108 (OP)
nobody asked for it, and they didn't prove to us that we wanted it.

They got lucky with one good mod and they can't make that bottled lightning again.
They should stick to making slop like that shark game that was funish.

>>716381108 (OP)
They didn't understand why KF1 OR KF2 were compelling.

>>716381108 (OP)
Look at top's aesthetic and bottoms. From grimy and gritty to clean, bland nu-cyberpunk.
From guys who look like actual armed forces and police, to whatever the fuck that mall ninja is. Yes KF1 had derpy comedy skins. But even they fit the general look. KF1's Chickenator is less absurd than doofus the swordboy.
As for gameplay, KF1 is fast. KF2 never felt the same to me, it always felt like wading through mud compared to 1. No doubt 3 will be more of the same.
One more thing, soundtrack. KF1>KF2. While I haven't bothered to listen to anything KF3, you can kinda guess what they are going to go for, and it won't be as good.

I had no idea this was coming and will continue to feign ignorance

>>716381108 (OP)
Without context, I genuinely won't be able to tell the bottom pic was from KF3.
I hate this soulless corporate soldier aesthetic. Literally the same shit as any nu-shooters.

>>716381108 (OP)
Where the hell do these companies hire art directors/"artists"? They all practically have the same soulless style. It's no wonder these fuckers fear AI.

>>716381108 (OP)
they focused on the hyper neon future shiny metal aesthetic and it blows since they already did it in 2.
they should have just returned to the grimy dirty look of 1

I wish KF1 wasn’t eternally broken thanks to its server browser being fucked

>>716381108 (OP)
When will the pendulum swing back and we go back to gritty and dark from all this sanitized corporatepunk shit?

>>716383525
>monster sloppa
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryanwynia
https://www.artstation.com/bryanwynia
https://www.mobygames.com/person/402198/bryan-wynia/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2102390/

He's a hack who sucked dicks in the industry long enough to be given the chance to play director on a midsize production.

>>716381108 (OP)
What didn't?

>>716381108 (OP)
>Black medic
>Dyke Women

lol no thanks

>>716381108 (OP)
They fired John Gibson over some political remarks on social media and the series went down the shitter after he left.

>>716381108 (OP)
>Soul
>Soulless

We didnt sing the praises of kf2 enough. All swat weapons control the same because on-perk offers no recoil reduction. That is cool and off-perk not isn't stronger but it's funner. Being stuck on with ballistic damage isn't as fun as interacting with type weaknesses.
Off perk is not playing survivalist. It's being creative on a perk like support.

Make note of metal bosses and their weakness to the HRG Arc Generator. Boss wave will never be the same https://wiki.killingfloor2.com/index.php?title=Patriarch_(Killing_Floor_2)#:~:text=%20ArcGeneratorSphereImpact

>>716385650
>We didnt sing the praises of kf2 enough.
KF2 started everything bad about KF3, if anything the problem is that it was too successful so they kept going in that direction

>>716381108 (OP)
>WW2 Soviet WOMAN sniper killed billions
>Asians are ninja samurai, kung fu moshi mosh
>Black people are educated

>>716381108 (OP)
Nothing. It's fun.

>>716386360
forgot pic. gigachud signing off

>>716381108 (OP)
Looks like it lost it's identity and became a generic hero shooter. Those all look like Apex Legends rejects on the bottom.

>>716386413
god fucking dammit. this is tripwire's fault

>>716386495
jej

>>716381108 (OP)
>oi crikey! The smelly buggers grabbed me!

>negroe medic: hey guys, I'm the normal dude in the squad here. We didn't want to offend anyone here with ebonics so I'm basically white. So who needs medical attention??

Did KF1 or 2 even have a female or black playable character?

>>716381108 (OP)
Where's my Harold Lot

>>716386936
[Speaks Igbo]

>>716387018
KF1, besides the chav, was literally all dudes who had some excuse for being able to handle guns and survive long enough to find a team. Maybe one was black but half of them were under helmets and masks anyways so you mostly couldn't tell
Kf2 had a fat chick who went to concerts, a punk chick who went to concerts, and black dude who was actually private security consultant in the base game

>>716387104
L

>>716387018
KF1 had Mrs. Foster and the science chick as DLC

>>716387018
They both had both.

>>716386174
ACTUALLY it started with all the neon and scifi weapons
>>716386936
It amuses me how lefties ONLY do either
>Hey guys, Tyrone here. I'm black, so that means I'm from the HOOD! I love hip hop, sneakers, grafitti, fried chicken and basketball! Wakanda forever!
and
>Hey guys, Jamal here. I'm the most toothless, unthreatening, forgettable character ever. I am also black.
Meanwhile normal people made all kinds of memorable black characters - Big Bo, Louis, Coach, Cole, Sam B etc

>>716387396
>>Hey guys, Tyrone here. I'm black, so that means I'm from the HOOD! I love hip hop, sneakers, grafitti, fried chicken and basketball! Wakanda forever!
they never do this

>>716386495
It's okay gigachud vet. The war is over.

You have been given freedom. Freedom to be... Outside. You are nobody's tool now... No one's toy. You are no longer a prisoner of fate. You are no longer a seed of war. It's time for you to see the outside world with you rown eyes. Your body... And your soul... Are your own.

>>716381108 (OP)
Hero shooters were a mistake, I just want to play as a nameless soldier doing his job killing zeds

>>716381108 (OP)
Soul | Soulless

I just want another game to SQWAT in

>>716381108 (OP)
Man, we can never have anything good. Will older games ever be surpassed?

>>716385419
Gibson was a retard

>>716387396
>ACTUALLY it started with all the neon and scifi weapons
It started in EA with teleporting zeds and weld changes.

>>716383525
…..your answer to lack of creativity is something that objectively isn’t creative and steals from those who are?

>>716381108 (OP)
Those two look like wholly different games. I've never played any KF games.

>Game is kind of like KF2 without the "enemies randomly spawn just next to you" bullshit
Why am I suppose to be mad? It's already 1000x better than KF2

>no text chat
>perks are tied to a character for some reason (why can't I play Mr Foster as a medic? or Imran as a sharpshooter?)
>no berserker (but ninja seems to be basically the same thing)
>no demolitionist
>no gunslinger
>no support (is engineer basically the same thing?)
>no survivalist
>no swat
>switching perks and choosing skills seems to require going back to stronghold, which is a small map in itself (why isn't it just a menu?)
>no stalker
>siren shoots projectiles now?
>kiting is kill because you have to buy syringes now (instead of just being a cooldown)
>have to buy multitool too? can't weld?
>don't seem to be able to heal teammates unless you are medic, which cuts down the teamwork
>overly complicated item system (for mtx no doubt)
>hard to tell where attacks are coming from (especially husks and their mortar shits)
>doesn't seem to have any of the kf1 or kf2 VAs
>missing a bunch of characters like dj scully
>feels like amerislop instead of british humour
I really wanted to buy this at least because I bought kf1/kf2 on sale but this is disappointing.

>>716397503
enemies never spawn randomly next to you. it's always out of sight at some spawn point

>>716381108 (OP)
can't blame woke this time, because the CEO of tripwire is a massive chud

>>716385650
Survivalist feels like a perk that would've ran conceptually better in some sort of game mode where everyone is stuck with only it and you have to work around not having the raw power that other perks have.

>>716396675
The first game is grindhouse horror with hordes of freakshow experiment clones, juxtaposed by the funny Englishmen that have to fend off before fighting a rampaging nerd turned supermutant. Ever since then it's much less these and increasingly leaning towards science-fiction.

>>716398058
>at some spawn point
No, the problem is they spawned next to you out of sight. Making "hold the position" gameplay nearly impossible and turning the game into a shoot-and-run zoomer slop.

>>716398058
I think he's meaning spawn behavior that yields things like zeds spawning where it wouldn't make any logical sense, like from right behind a pillar as soon as the round starts.

>>716398060
Based. I like KF even more now

>>716398006
>>no berserker (but ninja seems to be basically the same thing)
>>no demolitionist
>>no gunslinger
>>no support (is engineer basically the same thing?)
>>no survivalist
>>no swat
>>no stalker
umm sweaty, we need something for the live service drip feed, okay??

>>716398060
>can't blame woke this time
?

>>716398201
eh I mean once you understand how it works it's fine. it's a video game so they have to spawn somewhere.

and when you understand how it works, you can abuse it to force zed spawns and steal all the dosh for quick upgrades (at least with 1 and 2)

>>716381108 (OP)
Indian devs.
UE5.

>>716381108 (OP)
Focusing too much on consoles. Other than that I've been having fun. Game gets a lot better once you've leveled your perk a bit and gotten some weapon mods.

>>716399098
Fuck I wish I didn't see this...

>>716385419
>They fired John Gibson
Not the guy that have us the zedconomy!!! I heckin love lootboxes!!!

>>716390573
>Will older games ever be surpassed?
For you, in terms of nostalgia? No.

>>716399098
Why do mutts let their dumbed down outdated toddler politics get in the way of their jobs and careers?

>>716399098
>say you support something half the country does
>job stolen
This is insane

>>716399919
Americans have no rights.

>>716399919
And the other half thinks men can be women, and that said men should be able to use the restroom with little girls.
Just keep your fucking politics to yourself, regardless of what they are.

>>716396636
His point is that these artists are all boring, repetitive, and self-referrential, just like AI.

>>716381108 (OP)
Looks like they went for the hero-shooter vibes, because that shit is trending, and their games have classes.

>>716396636
i don't know how you miss a point this hard; but he is saying that their work is so uninspired and generic, that their job could be done by AI instead for the same result

>>716387018
Wish I had my camera, capture zis place.

>black Asian woman
And with their powers combined I make DEI sloppa games

No Harry Enfield

>KF1
>Insult Players button
>KF3
>not even a text chat

>>716401763
Stand still oim trying to heal you not bloody tickle you!

>>716401763
what does that tach you?
never buy a game

>>716381108 (OP)
>What went wrong?
It's not a failure so I can't seethe all day about it on /v/

>>716396636
Wait until you find out that all artists are inspired by other artists, but sure, call it stealing if you want.

>>716387018
the KF1 trade is a black woman you fucking nogame

>>716399919
>2021
This is back when they thought they were the loud majority

>>716401382
This

>>716400064
>Just keep your fucking politics to yourself
Peak rightoid mentality. Nobody else does this. This is why everything is gay now.

>>716404849
Playable.

>>716405646
Both have playable female characters you mongrel

>>716381108 (OP)
Nothing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETN5yE0Zgpg
/v/ is just full of little whining bitches who can't get past the
>OLD GOOD NEW BAD
mentality no matter how good the new game is.

>>716405963
>/v/ is just full of little whining bitches
Why does it have 50% mixed ratings then? Not even the normies like it

>>716406023
/v/ is brigading the game
don't trust your eyes and ears

>>716405963
Then why does it have such poor reviews on Steam?

>>716406023
>poor people complaining about performance
>retards complaining it's not COD zombies
Normies are the biggest bandwagoners kek

>>716381108 (OP)
Never played any of them, but I can deduce from the second image that what went wrong is nigs, chinks, and chicks.

One in the Pipe

>>716381108 (OP)
>mutation wave
>Fleshpound galore
>everyone's getting downed one after another
>have to complete the wave on my own
>they watch as I skillfully evade and kill them all
Feels good carrying you noobs. Just watch and learn lads

>>716408935
Oh wow, you "skillfully evaded" fleshpounds in a game where it's piss easy to evade them.

Nononono it was supposed to keep dipping. STOP THE COUNT

>>716396636
Might as well save money if you're making soulless slop

I hate the fucking Roblox-chunky guns. The game looks worse in all ways than KF2 and in art-style worse than KF1. The animations are horrendous, staggeringly amateurish and stiff. It doesn't have that 'physical' feeling of KF2, feels more like the weightless floating of CoD zombies. It's been slapped REALLY hard with the Mandate of Progressivism, KF2 was already doing that to some extent but it's worse.
It's not complete shit, but it's such a step down that it just feels like both early access, and that it doesn't have a reason to exist.

>>716405963
Would you believe me if I said this gun was a bloody shotgun

>>716401382
bloody disgusting

>>716410324
That's how you know you ahven't played the game other than on normal, you casual bitch

>>716410467
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING??? WE TOLD YOU THE GAME SUCKS WHY ARE YOU STILL PLAYING IT AIIIIIIEEEEEEEE

>>716381108 (OP)
british games are not allowed on this website anymore sorry

>>716408935
Based

>>716381108 (OP)
coming for an early kf1 player its genuinely so sad seeing games lose their soul

>>716410467
lol post kf2's peak

Why is this old ass game so expensive?

>>716410467
Holy flopping seaweed Batman!

>>716381108 (OP)
[Speaking Japanese]

Beside this slop, what would be the ideal KF3?
>1 aesthetic
>2 gameplay and classes, maybe remove survivalist and sprinting
>more grounded real life guns in general, no EDAR, less scifi guns

>>716381108 (OP)
WTF the weekly mission is hard man

>>716417054
art style from 1 and gameplay between 1 and 2 (basically 2 but slower) so that welding doors and holding an area isn't irrelevant
go all in on horror, loud realistic death screams when players die alongside living players audibly panicking, more fucked up fles monstrosities instead of sci-fi edars

>>716418440
I agree with the horror aspect, 1's zeds used to feed on your corpse, not sure if that can affect gameplay though.

>>716398006
>no support
Never going to play this game now. Thanks for the heads up.

How well does the game run?

>>716410467
Its rising because its daytime on the east coast again you retarded pajeet lmfao

>>716422174
ue5 well

>>716422174
If you turn off Lumen it won't crash as often

Are classes still tied to characters and is the Ninja fun? Played KF2 as the melee class with Tom Banner, was a fun combination.

>>716426191
>Are classes still tied to characters
Yes but they said they will change that in a later patch
>is the Ninja fun
YES verily so imo

>>716426279
Is it worth the dosh? Can most likely convince some friends to play down the line but wonder if it is enjoyable solo or with randoms.

Who is the boss, the patriarch? Or better question, does it even have a final boss wave?

>>716427350
I mean I enjoy it but base game is 40 bucks and if you take a look at reviews and the state of this thread not everyone is as happy as I am. Not sure if I can really recommend it to you, I don't want to be responsible for you and your friends wasting your money kek

>>716427692
Three bosses so far, Chimera, Impaler and Queen Crawler. No Patriach

>>716405963
+1

This game reeks of pajeets at every corner.

>>716429480
Weird, that didn't happen for me