Will you play Guild Wars 3 or nah?

no?

yes

No, the gameplay and community are shit. I was levelling an engineer using the vanilla skills and decided to play some PvP. I had some fuckwit with his DLC skill loadout mocking me and I demolished him in a 1v1. Game is full of scrubs

>>716396570 (OP)
if they drop level scaling
i cant think of a dumber mechanic in an RPG than level scaling, its like having cars that drive themselves in a racing game

>>716396570 (OP)
No playable Tengu
No buy

>>716396570 (OP)
lol

>>716396749
This thread is about Guild Wars 3, not Guild Wars 2

>>716396779
Level scaling keeps old zones relevant. What they should do is get rid of levels altogether. Levels only make sense in a game like RuneScape, it makes little sense in themepark games like WoW or GW

>>716396570 (OP)
All the ANet employees who made GW1 are gone, and like 80% of the ANet employees who made GW2 are gone too. I would probably try it out while expecting nothing.

Yeah I'll give it a shot.

>>716396570 (OP)
>level scaling
Yuck.

>>716396570 (OP)
Only if they improve the gameplay notably, do not force woke shit( or at least in big quantities), and add Tengu as playable race. And alsi either game stays with no sub, or optional sub for more QoL at most.

>>716396984
Colin is there

>>716396570 (OP)
Yes of course, but where is the trailer and release date? Are they going down the souls combat route? That may alienate all the women playing GW2.

Complaining about GW2's level scaling is nonsense. The vast majority of the game at this point is at level 80 so scaling doesn't even exist for 90% of the game and also GW2's level scaling implementation is actually good. Because the only scaling that happens is you getting scaled down you still have meaningful progression when you are levelling and because it's only your stats that get scaled down and you keep the skills and passives you've unlocked when you do do something where you get scaled down you keep your progression and your character still functions. Everyone wins and there are literally no downsides.

>>716396885
yeah I’m sure removing character progression in an MMO will go great

If its less jank than 2 yes
The movement in 2 is just oddly jerky and it throws me off, being able to animation cancel your own attacks is also not that great, it sounds good on paper but if you press an ability just becuase your swing connects you just whiff that shit and it feels so fucking bad

>>716397581
I have multiple legendaries and 40k AP and i dont give a fuck
Only weird games who make a game their sole identity care about this shit.
I also have a maxed OSRS account and wouldnt care if the game died tomorrow. Stop making games into your identity

I will try it but as a main mesmer player I'm expecting it to suck a lot.

>>716396885
>>716397530
Its boring shit! You get to 80 and the only thing you have to look forward to are cosmetics and almost sense of progression ends with the exception of mounts and when you got them all its back to cosmetic hunting.

>>716397682
I actually love the GW22 movement system, rarely hear someone disliek it

>>716397530
Downside is that i can't steamroll old zones that gave me trouble before, which isn't fun for power progression and why i would never ever fucking do heart of thorns zones again.

yeah for sure ill try it out ive liked 1 and 2 to a degree why wouldnt i try a new game
people here arent just contrarians who talk shit about games they have never played, right??

>>716397704
The real endgame is achievment points

GW3 better have a fist weapon of some kind

>>716396570 (OP)
I dunno, it might get banned in my country for raping my wallet

>>716397737
Heart of Thorns mobs remaining dangerous is a big part of why this game is still fun.

>>716397786
I have never and will never give a shit about achievement points. I have ignored it in games, ps3, xbox, steam, etc.

>>716397967
I also ignore tham in 99% of games but its actually really tastefully done in GW2 and its fun to chase them

>>716396570 (OP)
>music by talentless troon instead of Jeremy Soule
kek
no

>>716397737
>I can't steamroll a max level area at max level and that's why level scaling is bad

>>716397886
Not really, global events there is the only fun thing in the game though, i am baffled how they blunder every expansion after HoT in that regard. But still fuck farming landing for gear set because it is the only place in the game that awards exotic armor with full stat selection, at least when i played, no clue what changed with janthir wilds onward,

>>716398089
Its shocking how they make so many of their maps one and dones after the massive success that was HoT. I really dont understand it. Path of Fire is such a headscratcher in that regard

>>716397734
I dunno, it feels like you are both light as a feather and fall like a sack of hammers
I just prefer the movement of FFXIV and WoW, same for the way skills go off
I think the only edge GW2 has in that regard are mounts, theyre cool I guess?
But it still doesnt really feel all that good

>>716398025
I know how it was done in GW2 and I agree that it was tastefully done but that cannot possibly be the main drive of the game.
People like seeing their characters get stronger and have stuff that was difficult before become easier.

>>716398089
I liked that Verdant Brink was the main way to get stat selectable exotic gear. Love that map and its meta-event. Best way these days to get that is from a WvW vendor they added, can get stat-selectable exotic gear for some badges of honor and like 1g per piece.
They've had some banger meta-events in content past HoT but HoT probably is still king. Dragonfall from LW4 and Drizzlewood Coast from IBS specifically are really good maps, high value, farmable, with cool spectacle boss events. SotO and the Inner Nayos map rightfully get a lot of flack but honestly I think the finale meta-event there is one of the best in the game, legitimately feels like a giant raid on a demon castle, can potentially drop any infusion in the game or something like that too.

>>716398089
>it is the only place in the game that awards exotic armor with full stat selection
Play PvP or WvW, reward tracks throw that shit at you, or just invest in legendaries so you don't have to farm it anymore

>>716398287
I wouldnt mind if they did what RuneScape did. There is a gear progression and bosses can drop incredible powerful loot but loot isnt just invalidated patch to patch, but they slowly over years add new powerful items

>>716398089
Also every ~3 months you can grab 3 pieces of ascended armor and 1 ascended weapon from wizard welfare, stat-selectable.

>>716398286
>I just prefer the movement of FFXIV and WoW, same for the way skills go off
LMAO FF14 and WoW have nothing on GW2 combat and movement. The only problem with GW2 is the pointless endgame cause if there is no progression then why the hell are you raiding?
I could understand someone being overly attached to WoW and its combat cause they have been playing it for 2 decades but FF14 is absolute dogwater.

>>716398625
yes I guess I wouldnt mind that either. A legendary doesnt even have to a super OP item either, they could just makeit do something unique to that weapon and make it so that playing with or against a legendary necro feels different that playing with or against a normal one.

>>716396570 (OP)
I don't know. I would need to see the game, and try it out for myself before making any decisions.

>>716399628
That's retarded anon, pick a side and fling some shit.

>>716398681
I do think that GW2 by now actually has a progression system in its endgame. But it's not you getting stronger, it's the content you progress through getting harder instead. So you start out doing some lower tier fractals, easier strikes and the easier raid wings, and then you *progress* through the content all the way up to the really difficult challenge modes. While you can technically access stuff like HTCM or Cerus CM as soon as you hit 80, going into that stuff as soon as you've built your first set of ascended gear will get you absolutely butchered. You need to learn and work your way through the game before attempting the hard stuff. This is literally thousands of hours of content. No fresh player is taking on the challenge modes from EoD, SotO and IoJ and beating that shit blind.

>>716396570 (OP)
Did they announce Guild Wars 3?

>>716396570 (OP)
I still plan to finish my GWAMM in GW1 eventually. Didn't play GW2 much after hitting max level when it came out since it was so different, but I'll check out GW3 if there's one, maybe go back to GW2 and catch up even since I read the game improved significantly compared to release.

>>716396570 (OP)
If same trannies that are running 2 are involved, then no.

If they get someone else to make it, then I'll check out the trailer at least.

why so much noise about guild wars 2 now?

>>716400102
Latest expansion got announced, so there's probably some marketing going on.

>>716396570 (OP)
if they bring back paragon and/or ritualist, i will have no other choice

>ostensibly a GW3 thread
>GW2 image
>GW2 discussion
Try again.

>>716400102
new expansion tries to sell less for same price and kinda sorta not getting it's dick sucked as hard as suits would like.

>>716396570 (OP)
Good luck launching an MMO in 2030, it's just not going to work

>>716400036
It was mentioned in some shareholder meeting. No player-facing announcement and no real info on how far progressed it is or even whether they're committed to making it.

>>716400240
Where my Camelot Unchained niggas at? Only 10 years in development! Kek

>>716400149
they are next expansion

>>716400167
>GW2 image
feel free to post any GW3 images then you fucking idiot

I'll probably give it a go. I played 2 at release pretty much non stop up until the first expansion and loved it, but haven't played it since.
Would be great if I could have that experience again if they make 3. But who the fuck knows when that'd ever happen.
In the mean, I've gotten too old for video games. I don't even know what I'm doing here anymore.

>>716400334
yeah but i mean as real classes not shitty 1 weapon sets

>>716400102
Last expansion we get
>player housing-lite
>new weapon
>new kits for said weapon


Now, for the same price we're getting
>kits for pre-existing weapons

Also the new kits are just awkwardly stuffed into their classes with 0 reason or care. So yeah, not looking too hot.
Doing some guerilla intern marketing on forums is likely their best bet to not waste even more money.

>>716400318
Imagine if these retards never got mired on trying to make synchronously destructible minecraft buildings or custom spells or targetable limbs or revamping the UI for eight years and just made a game where three factions fought over castles.

>>716400147
I don't doubt there is some marketing going on but I think there's like a compounding interest-piquing effect with the yearly announcements. I think people legitimately thought GW2 was a dying game around EoD release, but in the 3.5 years since then we get 3 expansions. Kinda went from "dead game" to "oh wow another expansion so quick maybe it's not so dire" to "ok 4 expansions in 4 years clearly the game isn't dying".
Not to mention FFXIV going through its worst period in years and every new MMO in the last who knows how many years flopping.

>>716400572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekhpRojvfW0
They truly outdid themselves with the time they were given.

>>716396570 (OP)
lotta GW2 viral marketing on /v/ recently

>>716396570 (OP)
LOL
LMAO

>>716400658
these "expansions" are just Living World seasons you have to pay for up front. It's very clear they were going to be "sagas" like IBS before NCSoft dropped the hammer.

>>716400778
don't care, still buying, still having fun

GW3 needs to remove the waypoint system
Just port the mounts from GW2 and some teleports from cities or consumables that you can craft and thats it
Waypoints absolutely kill any immersion

>>716396570 (OP)
I remember trying 2 briefly and it felt like any other mmorpg slop

>>716400804
are you? Are you really?

>>716400839
yes even bought the ultimate edition for the extra gems!

>>716400884
>another whale trying to convince themselves they're having fun
you hate to see it

>>716396570 (OP)
They've made it abundantly clear that these games are not for straight white males, so no.

>>716400997
Im a straight white male and play it

>>716400812
I've kind of grown to hate the mounts. Bring back spamming greatsword 3 as a mode of transportation.

>>716401165
I don't hate the system, but skyscales were a fucking mistake

>>716396570 (OP)
Jesus Christ, no.

>>716396570 (OP)
>starting a new MMO
>in 2025

>>716396570 (OP)
There is going to be a Guild Wars 3? Source?

>>716401165
Nah mounts are fantastic. Just remove skyscales

>>716400812
>tfw when anon is suggesting this while GW1 had instantaneous teleportation anywhere for zero cost

>>716401398
Shareholder meeting had some retard exec spill the beans that ArenaNet was working on it. There have been a ton of high level openings being filled for an "unannounced project" at ArenaNet, mostly citing working with an existing IP etc. Pic related is a spreadsheet some reddit fag has been maintaining with links to archived job postings.

>>716401398
Duckduckgo

>>716401463
I honestly like the way XIV gates flying in each zone and restricts mounts in cities.

>>716400069
>i want this
lol you want an arm? you can have it now if u want
come to >>>/vm/1854477

if gw3 doesn't have a build/theorycrafting mechanism like in GW1 it's dead on arrival I don't give a fuck about player housing what the fuck, gw2 is such a fucking bad game GOD

>>716401603
Ye and GW1 isnt open world

>>716401603
just between outposts, you can't teleport anywhere in actual zones (you know, where the content is)

Why is pvp in GW2 so bad?

>>716401709
Ive not played much FF14 but i wasnt impressed by the maps. Why are they gatin flying?
Btw GW2 has limited flying, skyscale is overpowered but the griffon only works if you already have altitude when you use it

Guild Wars 1 is a cool and good game but for fuck's sake there was literally just 2 years between the first release and the last, it lived only 5 years before its sequel launched which has lived for 13+ years now. At what point do you get the fuck over it?

>>716401718
What makes GW1 theorycrafting unique exactly?
Why could this just all be solved like any other game in the modern day?

>>716401649
Spreadsheet usage is a sure sign of autism.

>>716401938
Because it's dead.

>>716401995
those five years were better than all 13 of GW2's, so never.

>>716401963
The openworld in XIV has two purposes: To provide setpieces for the latest expansion pack's story and two contain the various post-story grinds like random crafting materials you can gather or FATEs (XIV's version of GW2's dynamic events) that you do for random reward currencies
To unlock flying in the individual zones you need to gather like 4 or so random collectibles typically found not too far away from the places in which the story in that particular area takes place and also complete a similar number of random quests. Typically this means that you've almost 'naturally' unlocked flying in one particular zone by the time you're done with the story in that particular area. It should be noted that during all of this time you still have access to the mounts that speed up your walking speed, they just can't fly.
I assume the developers' intent is for you to be able to organically experience the story as you travel through a new area for the first time and then let you go wherever you want by the time it no longer would ruin the 'experience' of going from setpiece A to setpiece B, especially if they're meant to be accessed at different times in the story due to being separated by natural terrain like large cliffsides

>>716401995
idk we still play it

>>716402037
you have a ~100 skills for each profession and you can have a secondary profession so the possibilities are almost endless, that's why it made pvp so special cus you'd have people coming up with wild shit every week

>>716402037
the sheer amount of possible combinations, it's like 7 quadrillion or something.

PvE is pretty much solved, though

>>716396570 (OP)
Yes
Anet often drops the ball but they are also the only dev I trust with making an MMORPG, GW2 is phenomenal despite the constant self sabotage

>>716396570 (OP)
They should just reboot at this point.

>>716397224
Fuck that bitch.

>>716403027
yeah but pve was solved only recently THOUGH given it's 2025 it still took a while

>>716403027
>>716402853
This is not an argument. You have endless possibilites in PoE aswell yet people theorycraft bis stuff in that game from patch to patch. I highly doubt GW1 is anywhere close to as complicated as PoE

>>716403110
Fuck you biotch

>>716403130
there's no bis in gw1 jfc what a midwit you are

>>716403243
Just tired of you retards glazing up that game in every GW2 thread as if its the ultimate theorycrafting game that can never be solved

>>716396570 (OP)
>Played since first game, then followed the second game till now
I have huge problem with giving my trust to the company that no longer is the same company and did not respect a lot of lore. The current state of story is that everyone is sassy cartoon character. Anet cannot build complex enemies or conflicts, everything is resolved through walkie-talkie or poop of the obscure that just do magic stuff don't ask. GW franchise was known for the fresh perspective in world mmo but not anymore.

>>716403415
it true doe :P

you know gw1 kind of annoyed me when i went back to it as an adult and realized that in order to have a good build you have to grind faction rep for at least three different factions for skills
like fuck, i don't have time to do twelve million kurzick missions for the version of the rit skill that doesn't look terrible

>>716403415
GW1 PVP will probably never be solved, there is never going to be a "perfect" team comp that will win every time.

But, as stated, PvE has been solved, for all intents and purposes.

>>716403597
but the Luxon Summon Spirits looks better

>>716403702
that's just like, your opinion, man
also skilling up heroes is a major fucking pain in the ass and i'm not giving arenanet twenty bucks for the honor of skilling up a second character to be a shitty stopgap hero

>>716403597
>good build
you just swallowed the pill that there is only one viable option, of course people will theorize about BiS skills but you can easily manage without them, and you can earn them on your own pace, but i guess you want to speedrun the mmo.

>>716403783
>implying elite skill hunting isn't fun in and of itself

>>716403783
you can finish 100% of the content game has to offer with half assed builds on 4 para 3 rangers hero comps come on, also faction rank and eotn ranks you can hit rank 5 during double week over a weekend

>>716403907
i mean, that's possible, but i also spent two consecutive hours dying to the fucking centaur slave mission in nightfall on my paragon without making a real dent so i decided to just look up builds and pray it helped, and then i burned out before finishing one of them

>>716403923
man elite skill hunting is its own pain in the ass
why do i have to walk all the way through the shittiest mission in factions(the old man is cool but i hate the fucking constellation monsters) to find a monster that drops the skill i need for my necromancer?
in prophecies it was fine but when there's 300 elite skills and they can only be found on one specific enemy on the ass end of a completely different campaign it starts to piss me off

Haven't played GW2 in many years. Was the Cantha expansion okay? What else is there to do now?

I will play GW3 but if it's more like GW2 than GW1 I'll drop it.

>>716404157
>Was the Cantha expansion okay?
no
>What else is there to do now?
more of the same

>>716404157
i'm not kidding, i bought end of dragons solely because they nostalgiabaited me with the revenant elite spec
i never even got to its content before i felt burned out enough with the game to stop(the fucking crafting grind is terrible)

>>716404095
>roving to all corners of the map hunting specific enemies for unique "drops" isn't fun
maybe this genre just isn't for you

>>716404219
Alrighty, then. Will wait for GW3.
Maybe play some GW1 in the meantime.

>>716404276
it frustrates me having to do a bunch of missions to get access to the fun exploration areas, is what i was trying to say
especially because the missions are designed for parties of players and there's two people in the area max whenever i'm playing

>>716396570 (OP)
>Arenanet in 202X
Hell no.

Not believing it happening anytime soon. Anet playing it safe and releasing xpack every year now and as long it's profitable why they should risk. Even Gw1 remake is more likely.

>>716396885
Would be best. Just make abilities come from quests like GW1 to avoid inundating new players, then your progression doesn't need levels at all.

>>716396570 (OP)
fuck off and 42% yourself, guild troon

>>716401097
>Im a straight
Sure you are queen

>>716404870
absolutely not gw1 remake is the worst thing that could happen

>>716396984
wrong, 100% of the people who actually made gw2 (which were the same people who made gw1) have been gone ever since the game launched, they literally fired them all as soon as it shipped, which is why the game started with so much potential that was then immediately and unceremoniously squandered in the most cutting off the nose to spite the face petty faggot kike way possible, kikes can only destroy the beauty that white men create, kikes cannot create beauty

>>716401718
>you can have it now if u want
Thanks for the offer lol but I wanna earn it so that it'll feel more of an accomplishment. I always wanted it when I was younger but I never managed to clear all of DoA, I think I was missing just one of the gemstones, the one from the place with all the margonites.
I started a new account during the 20th anniversary so I'll have to earn all the rest again as well, but it should be easier nowadays with 7 heroes and metabuilds, and not whatever horrendous shit we used to run with back then.

>>716399987
Except I did because I already faced harder challenges. GW2 was comfortable easy but somehow a bigger fucking bore at the start than Final Fantasy 14.

>>716397224
colin is a faggot assed nigger and a retard, he was the primary nigger who fucked the game after it laucnhed, fuck that piece of shit

>>716405259
but GW2 started terribly, then kept being terrible until HoT came out, then it was good for a while, then it swan-dived off a cliff and faceplanted through the lithosphere

>>716403415
Because it's a deck builder game with abilities compared to the generic shit GW2 offers.

>>716404870
They’re not profitable tho. The expansions have been massive flops

>>716400102
it's a shameless attempt at viral marketing in order to try to drum up interest for the soon to be released gw3, the thing that kikenet doesn't realize is that all straight white men know exactly how jewish gaynet is and will never play their tranny faggot nigger shit ever again
enjoy all the no money that the "modern audience" will bring in for your bloated unrealslop mobileslop gachaslop p2wslop trash, retards

>>716404095
If you hate adventuring I don't have any advice for you besides a game that holds your hand?

>>716405329
Fuck you

>>716404376
Now this is a valid opinion. Even with how good henchmen + heroes are yeah it sucks ass.

>>716400658
it was already a dead game at eod release, just because faggots shit out unbaked shit-tier cashgrabspansions does not an alive game make it, dumb nigger

Not if it's handled by the same troons who are ruining it. I can't stand the fucking carebear shit and how fucking annoying the story has become.

I hope GW3 will at least have some kind of hero mechanics.
Was a bummer when GW2 was supposed to have one customizable companion and then they scrapped it.

>>716405571
nta but if Colin was responsible for story or 'no rewards' yeah fuck him too. I still don't understand why they took down the Hall of Monuments. Was it because people were being left out?

>>716396570 (OP)
I would judge it on its own merits if it has any, but I'd be dubious by default

>>716401097
kikes aren't white, hymie

>>716404376
that's fair, I can't even imagine starting from scratch at this stage

>>716405493
Im pretty sure they at least cover the price of production or something they wont be making them if its only fail after fail

>>716403229
kill yourself, faggot colin

>>716405493
I don't think GW2 is some huge moneymaker, but it's definitely a successful live service game, and people buy the expansions. I logged in again for the first time in a while, and saw that they were doing some SotO event which was perfect for me because it meant I could work on the leggy armor, so I went there and the zones were filled with people. Even without meta events running, people were everywhere doing event chains and shit and meta event squads filled up ahead of time every time.

>>716405657
The next game to do Granado Espada and gacha the fuck out of it will be a successful MMORPG if it incorporates home / guild / production based mechanics to player based territories. I will shamefully promote my idea till it manifests or I die. PvP no PvE would give a shit unless it is designed as a siege that will result in the death / rape of your digital waifu and homeland.

>>716405731
It covers the cost of GW2 production but it doesnt cover the cost of GW2 + GW3

>>716396570 (OP)
GW2 was pretty fun desu before the devs trooned out.
Had lots of fun with it

>>716405456
it's the exact opposite, hot was literally the death blow with a blunt object to the cranium of the game, the game has been canned retarded slop for retarded niggers like you ever since then

>>716405571
you're the dumbest blackest gorilla retard nigger i have ever seen

>>716405917
yeah tell him bro

>>716405991
go look up the amount of possible build permutations in the original game vs hot's canned forced 3 line braindead league of legends style bullshit pseudo-treeing

>>716405770
I was working on Vision and Aurora recently and even the LW 3 and 4 zones had plenty of activity, any time I needed more bodies at an event I just tagged up or called it out and people came.

>>716396570 (OP)
Probably not. GW1 was utterly amazing, GW2 was disappointing and regarding GW3, nowadays I only really play MP games with friends and I don't expect any of them to have any interest in a GW3 at all.

>>716406101
I'm playing da game right now retard you got the wrong guy

I will play it only if the humans are the only playable race, it features a robust dual-class system that allows you to combine skills from different classes to create character builds that can fulfill unique roles while enabling you to wield any weapon regardless of your proficiency in it and if the story it features takes itself seriously and is not made for the rainbow hair identity politics warriors.

I won't, but the rest of you faggots had better buy it and pay for all the microtransactions. If this shit flops and takes down the GW1 servers with it, I will never know peace until the tide of my shitposts has made this entire board permanently unusable.

>>716406236
no, retard, i wasn't talking about nigger wars 1, that game sucked even bigger shit, shittiest everclone ever made

>>716406442
GW1 servers apparently cost like $5 a month to maintain, I don't think even the jewiest of Korean accounts would say that's even worth the effort of cutting

>>716406520
what the fuck are you talking about dumbass

would be cool if they did a GW1 prequel all about The Guild Wars, return to that same art style too.

>>716406670
he's apparently so brain-damaged he thinks launch GW2 was good

>>716406863
I tried GW2 at launch it was crap I only remember the jumping puzzles those were fun

>>716396570 (OP)
Only if I can marry a femcharr

>>716406276
GW1 loading screens are the most soulful loading screens of all

>>716404095
Post-NF launch Paragon is a joke class that only functions because of two broken PvE skills. It needed a full rework alongside Mesmer and Dervish.

>>716407059
They're all apex soul, I can't think of a single one that I would consider bad, maybe some EOTN ones were kind of mediocre. On average they always managed to portray the spirit of whatever area they were meant to represent and fired up your imagination.

>>716405259
Imagine being so insanely wrong. There are people from GW1 launch still at the company, same with 2.

>>716405863
Gee, look at this CFO here

>>716403608
wow just like every other game

>>716396570 (OP)
>Will you play Guild Wars 3 or nah?
If they get rid of horizontal progression, level scaling, etc. and don't turn it into a tranny game where all you do is listen to SJW-approved garbage NPCs and their shitty stories, while collecting clothes and mounts, because both the PvE and PvP is ultimately meaningless due to their horizontal progression.

>>716408437
>PvP is ultimately meaningless
what the fuck this supposed to mean

>>716408437
>NOOOOO I NEED to spend weeks grinding for gear only for it to become irrelevant in 6 months!!!
Kill yourself WoWcattle

>>716396570 (OP)
They should pay that company that made oblivion remastered to make guild wars 1 remastered so that I can fight people in random arena and the luxon vs kurzick shit and have it be the exact same game as gw1 under the hood.

>>716396570 (OP)
If it has poses and variable camera for screenshots.

>>716408437
Horizontal progression is literally the best part of GW2. I've dabbled in both wow and ffxiv (and a few other mmos), but GW2 is the only mmo where I can simply log back in whenever I fucking well please and just pick up where I left off. If I wanted to start playing wow again, I'd be slammed with a billion different dailies and weeklies and questlines and expansion mechanics that I need to start doing right now or I won't be able to get to do whatever the current expansion treadmill happens to be. GW2 just makes it way, way easier to leave and come back as I please, and I never feel forced to do dailies or whatever.

>>716406978
I wonder if that guy who was always shitposting about femcharr wives in /gw2g/ is up to now
Hopefully he's still happily married

>>716396570 (OP)
If they drop level scaling,re-focus the Adventure aspect and stop trying to copy WoW yes. I would play day 1 if it was more like GW1 than GW2's kirkland brand WoW.

>>716410130
It's big focus is on open world meta events and collections. How is that like wow (I don't play wow)

>>716396570 (OP)
>Good scenario
>GW3 takes the best elements of both games and combines them
>Bad sceario
>Mike has another sperg out where he comes up with a stupid idea like wasting months of dev time on living world just because he saw Game Of Thrones.

After they ruined gw2 and filled it with gay tranny woke shit? Why would anyone play 3?

>>716410913
Because it's Fresh

>>716408437
Why do retards keep complaining about level scaling as if it still relevant

geniunly speaking how do they release gw3 and please everyone that spent so much money on gw2??? like im gonna be pissed if i have to buy bag slots and char slots again

>>716409414
GW2 is just an endless gameloop of dailies idk what the fuck youre talkinga bout

>>716411195
the ephemeral "I want to go back to newbie zones and shitstomp the bosses"

>>716396570 (OP)
Only if we get GW1 back. Especially the PvP

>>716411306
Why should they please paypigs?
They can transfer over account boosters like character booster, bank booster but no fucking skins carryover, fuck you.

>>716411195
>>716411354
Leveling scaling just makes the world feel unauthentic and makes it feel like you never grow in power. If you see multiple people complain about it, then there's probably something to it.

>>716411553
Those people clearly never played more than the campaign, is the issue
Literally every zone after the campaign, that they made for 13 years, has been level 80 (level cap)
So why the fuck all this nonsense about a few zones in the starter campaign, as if its a relevant complaint at all

>>716411626
So if it stops having leveling scaling after the campaign(I don't know if you are actually right, but I'll take your word for it), then why have it for the campaign in the first place?

>as if its a relevant complaint at all
It is obviously relevant if multiple people experienced it, disliked it, and quit the game over it.

>>716411626
You see more people complain about GW2 in it's launch state than you do now

>>716396570 (OP)
Only if it works like 1 with 2 classes and skills and whatnot. If it's like 2 then fuck no.

>>716411874
The complaint is basically
>please make all this content irrelevant forever
Because... why? I agree levels as a concept is dumb for these types of MMOs but why would the WoW model be any better that makes all the content irrelevant except for mount farming after a new expac?
These people dont actually have a complaint, they just want the game to be like WoW. Im sure they dont like the game but its not because campaign zones have level scaling, its for other reasons they cant properly articulate

>>716412120
>Because... why?
Why not? You just said all the content post-campaign doesn't have leveling scaling anyway, so why does the campaign need to have level scaling?

>>716412248
>why not
You tell me, you are the one raising the complaint. You're just saying level scaling sucks, but why does it suck?

Its not that the post campaign doesnt have level scaling, it doesnt increase at levels at all. All the zones are level 80, which is the level cap. So the endgame zones released 13 years ago have the same level as zones released today
As i said, levels are dumb as fuck anyways, just get rid of level if its gonna be this arbitrary and irrelevant and easy to get. Put the power in gear instead of levels

>>716396570 (OP)
>GW1 devs left around the launch of 2
>anyone with any skill got let go or left over the past decade
>will be lucky to not be influenced by KMMOs by their Korean overlords
it's gonna be shit
the only silver lining is that the worst writers from 2 had been fired

>>716412407
>You're just saying level scaling sucks, but why does it suck?
I already told you here >>716411553

>>716412618
What makes the world feel inauthentic is a random boar in the newest expansion having a million times more HP and damage than a boar in a level 1 zone.... because its in a higher level zone
It doesnt feel inauthentic to have level scaling, actually what feels inauthentic for you is it not being a copy of WoW

>>716412860
It's crazy how you acknowledge that a lot of people complain about level scaling and it causes them to quit the game, but you're still vehemently defending it.

If a lot of people complain about the same thing, then maybe it is a genuine problem that should be changed. Also, I don't know why you keep mentioning WoW, when like 90% of MMOs don't have level scaling. It's not like WoW is the only one.

>>716412120
>I want everything to always stay relevant and never grow out of it
>lets just stay in neverland forever
Yes growing in power means that some zones become relevant but you can make them relevant again by making another character and growing through them again.
After killing fucking dragons these fucking bandits should pose no danger to be but they do in GW2 :^)

>>716413069
Im telling you, those complaints absolutely come from wow brained retards. Even WoW added level scaling of some sorts (i dont know exactly how i just know they did) and people complained about it there, even though the devs clearly see the issue with the previous model

If a lot of people complain about the same retarded thing, it means theyre all retarded

>>716413161
Yes, actually, i do. It allows the devs to add content to old zones which they have frequently done in GW2.

>>716413492
>If a lot of people complain about the same retarded thing, it means theyre all retarded
Alright, there's no point in attempting to have a genuine conversation with you, because you are clearly a die-hard GW2 fan that can't admit any faults with the game.

>>716413579
I'm a fan but i havent played the game for 5 years
And i can critique a lot of the game, in fact i already told you they'd be better of just removed the concept of character levels altogether and put the power in gear.
Let me guess, you dont like that idea, even if it solves your issue (WoW has retarded character levels aswell)

>>716413492
The WoW complain you absolute cultist was that epic gear from raiding was made irrelevant by green gear from the next expansion. Literally no one ever complained about gaining power and outgrowing low level zones.
Whether you like it or admit it or not the fact remains that in any reviews where people mention GW2's downsides they always go for the lack of vertical progression cause horizontal progression is fucking boring.

>>716409785
rest in peace FUN

>>716413905
Horizontal progression is the reason the game is still alive. You're bitching about no goals but how about trying to beat the game without the overleveling content crutch. There's a goal for you.

>>716413905
GW 1 had horizontal progression and people were fine with it. The problem with GW 2 is not that horizontal pogression is boring it's that GW 2 by itself is a boring fucking piece of shit.

>>716413905
How is epic gear NOT gonna be invalidated by green gear when its literally 10 levels higher? Do you not understand the issue here?

I totally agree GW2 fails completely with the feeling of power growth. The solution isnt to remove level scaling though, which is a bandaid fix to a retarded system to begin with. Id rather have the bandaid than not (like WoW)

>>716414253
>Horizontal progression is the reason the game is still alive
The game is still alive because it has become a 3D chat for trannies and gays who don't actually want to play an actual MMO, but instead just wants to play dress-up by collecting clothing and mounts.

>>716414603
If you go to any *old zone* you'll usually find players going through the content and doing the collections/story/cheevos. That's because it's still there and functions properly instead of getting stat creeped to shit in 2 seconds while you casually level your character. The majority of the players don't even have max mastery level, they don't run out of shit to do since the game doesn't progressively delete all the old stuff like the vertical progression MMOs do.

is guild wars 2 fun?

>>716407059
>le photobashed messy concept art style
looks like ai slop

>>716414968
>The majority of the players don't even have max mastery level
there's actual max level and normal person max level which is actual max minus the raid mastery from HoT you can't get unless you do a single raid instance.

>>716409785
Man, this game looks worse than i remembered

>>716415371
Oh yeah. Most players aren't even at 600 though so it doesn't change much. You usually see people at like 100-400 unless you go out of your way to the tryhard zones like the Aerodome or shit.

>>716414253
No anon, the game is still alive cause despite everything bad going on it has something for everyone. The mount stuff is fun, the cosmetics for the trannies and stuff like WvW and raids.
>>716414350
I think GW1 has a cult following not because of its level scaling but despite of it. I'm not against horizontal progression when you reach level cap and a new expansion comes out. I'm against there being no difference between a LvL 10 and a LvL 80.
>>716414361
I dont want it to become like WoW either but something's gotta give anon. I can log on my 80 and then log in the same class but lvl 10 and the only difference between them would be cosmetics. IMO horizontal progression works really well when its a different way to play the game rather like when you unlock a new class in other games, thats a good example of a sideways upgrade.

>>716416045
I dont understand your post. What is your point?
What do you mean by you can log in on your 80 and your level 10 and the only difference are cosmetics?

>>716396570 (OP)
its never coming out
they can barely make an expansion let alone a whole new game

>>716416296
When it comes to power they are both in the same place. When you make a LvL1 you only have 1 skill and then you grow up in power until like lvl10 when you get your last skill and after that you might as well be at level cap cause you stop growing in power. The green, blue and yellow gear are pretty much placebos too.

>hmmm people seem to be unhappy about Ranger being complete shit at ranged combat literally since launch
>should we try to buff their ranged weapons?
>nah just give them an uncustomizable bundle longbow with a better moveset than the actual longbow
no, no I will not

>>716416592
elite specs are almost always a straight upgrade that you will not get access to until level 80

>>716416592
Oh, yeah. Thats my entire point though, idk if you missed the conversation chain.

My only advice to ArenaNet would be get rid completely of character levels and just use the mastery system.
Yes mastery system isnt perfect in any shape way or form but it does give these WoW brains somewhat of a stimulant to feel like they grow in power without this random character level number thats completely irrelevant, and makes them complain about level scaling as they dont grow in power despite their character level going up

Hell my dream scenario would be they make your number next to your name your achievment points. Completely get rid of character levels, its a dumb system that doesnt make sense in either WoW or GW2

>>716416804
I think they are a side grade but its a pretty good one I'll give you that and I'll add that I dont think some of them go far enough in making the class feel different.
>>716416975
I need to go back to read it then but yes, I do like this idea as long as there is a sense of growth. Your character/mounts/glider getting new abilities with more mastery.
Basically just like it is right now but tied to the growth of your character instead of being specific to an expansion like it is right now.

>>716416975
Back when GW2 came out they were saying that anet wanted to get rid of levels completely but felt like it would alienate players too much. so they settled on the current system. I wouldn't be surprised if they just nuked them completely now

>>716417473
Damn i had no idea they said this. Fuck that would have been awesome

There won’t be GW3.
They will cancel development in 2027

>>716416537
>can barely make an expansion
but...
they have been making expansions?
huh
weird post O.o

>>716396570 (OP)
No. I don't want to grind all my legendaries all over again. And considering how shit the writing has been the last few expansions, I dont have high hopes. I will keep playing GW2 or GW1 if I feel nostalgic

>>716415140
If you like mmos focused on open world events yeah, this mmo probably does them the best and has the best maps for exploration. The large scale world versus world mode is fun too and has a pretty dedicated playerbase that there really isn't an equivalent of in other games

>>716417695
It's been in development for years already buddy. It should be released by 2027, or at most before summer 2028

>>716417849
They are only skins with no extra function anyway anon. They can put them on the store 2 times a year for that FOMO cash influx :^)

>>716396570 (OP)
no

>>716417849
This is why the legendary system is so cancer. They shouldnt have given legendaries any functionality what so ever. It bred a community of addicted losers who complain about GW3 bcause it will "invalidate" their progress

>>716418064
yeah and they finna cancel it. that’s how things go nowadays

>>716416730
This may be the most retarded opinion I've ever seen. Untamed and Soulbeast are clearly not designed to be ranged, and druid already has a staff for ranged. Why would they buff bow to make their melee specs ranged? You still have to be in melee to use merged pet abilities

>>716418303
>It bred a community of addicted losers who complain about GW3 bcause it will "invalidate" their progress
Its called sunk cost anon and its not exclusive to GW2 or its legendary system. Why do you think there are still WoW addicts playing today? You didnt think it was cause the game is good, did ya?

Post Asuras, faggots.

>>716416730
counterpoint: I can wield three different bows now

>>716417721
damn Suzanne, they got you working on 4chan instead of reddit?

>>716418661
It seems very pervasive in GW2 though. If WoW 2 was released i dont think the majority of WoW players would complain, but maybe im naive.

>>716396779
retard opinion. if there was no scaling then loot also wouldn't scale, it would just be newbie shit and you'd have no reason to play in those areas once you outgrew them. you don't understand how games work.

>>716418648
that's the fucking point, retard, the NEW elite spec is a bow-focused spec, but instead of making Longbow better/good to go along with it, they gave it a Bladesworn-style bundle weapon

and Druid ALSO wants to be in melee anyway since they spend all their time in Celestial form

>>716418801
No, you wield one bow and never switch off of it

>>716419601
How would they possibly make longbow good without fucking up the other specs and forcing them to use bow? They would have to completely change the abilities. Ability 3 is a useless stealth, ability 4 is a knockback that does no damage, and ability 5 is an annoying volley that isn't fun to use at all. What they did is clearly the best solution.

>>716419046
Its a staple of the MMO community as a whole and one of the reasons for why all new MMOs die (other than them sucking) with people always going back to their "home" MMOs after a month or 2 of trying the new one out.
WoW addicts are a puzzle, would they really move out to WoW 2 to start anew or would they dig in their heels?

>>716418661
For all intents and purposes SoD could be considered as WoW 6 and Anniversary as WoW 7

>>716397581
>character progression
I hate to tell you this, but leveling in MMOs makes you weaker, not stronger. GW2's level cap has been 80 since launch. There is no reason to even have levels in a GW3.

>>716396570 (OP)
Can't wait for the GW3 manifesto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjGhne10f1o

>>716419879
Nah WoW2 would be a new blank slate where players would have to drop everything they have done in the past 2 decades, it doesnt count as new unless you are starting from the beginning.

I wish this game wasn't afraid to give different races have different attributes
It would be interesting if there were holes only Asura could fit in, or rocks only Norns could lift, stats distributed differently, etc

>>716420159
>it doesnt count as new unless you are starting from the beginning.
anon...

>>716419815
>They would have to completely change the abilities
Yes? Literally yes? Why don't they do that? And give you the ability to swap weapon abilities around, while they're at it.
>What they did is clearly the best solution.
>right after I suggest a better solution

>>716411306
Did you think they'd just develop GW2 expansions forever and that you'd play forever?

>>716419195
Who is this?

>>716420390
If they buffed and change the bow that much every elite spec would be using the bow which would be stupid. I'm just not sure how you're not understanding this.

>>716420293
Ooh are you talking about classic WoW or something? Cause I dont think any of the new expansions has reset the game for anyone.

>>716418770
have sex bookah

>>716415140
It's the quintessential "good if you don't have a bitch in your ear telling you it's nasty" game.

>>716420504
oh you mean like how almost every profession uses spear, or their expanded weapon?

>>716396570 (OP)
>we made a necromancer since you wanted one
>but minions are shit
>haha no no no don't expect them to not be shit ever
>just ug lean into the fantasy of it being a dps only profession lol and like it can do aoe and ummmm death shroud yeah it's all about the second life bar now

No

>>716420959
I like playing heal scourge. It's like I'm raising the dead, but the dead are retard players in the event around me.

>>716421098
The problem is that necromancer isn't bad as a profession in general
It's bad because they completely ignored what made it fucking fun in GW1 and barely did anything to make the mechanic of the profession interesting

>>716421228
I dunno if you only played GW1 closer to launch but being a minion master sucks ass in GW1 after they limited the amount of minions you could have etc.

It has no chance of actually being Guild Wars so no.

>>716421293
>It has no chance of actually being Guild Wars
Achually there is hope:
allegedly when the suit let it slip GW3 was in the making the current team didn't know about it, meaning they either had someone else working on it or suit just made it up on the spot (this also works out since lying to share holders is illegal and so they are now hiring a whole new studios worth of people and leader/senior staff instead of using the old team)
TLDR GW2 team isn't going to be making GW3

>>716420458
you dont wanna know

>>716421675
>TLDR GW2 team isn't going to be making GW3
So? There's no GW1 team at ANet.

>>716421675
Out of all the theories on ArenaNet's unannounced project, this might be the dumbest.

>>716420848
Didn't they just nerf spears so that wouldn't be the case? Spear used to be best for soulbeast but they nerfed it and now it's hammer again

>>716396779

even with level scaling you can delete low level monsters in seconds, they aren't balanced for yellow gear quality and beyond, it quickly becomes irrelevant especially with elite specs

>>716421851
>everyone was using spear because they made it good
>this is fine
>but if you made longbow good, everyone would be using it! That's not fine!

Miss that nigga like you wouldnt believe

>people complaining about balance and the meta in guild wars 2 of all games

>>716422115
It clearly wasn't fine because they nerfed it. Why would you want an entire elite spec balanced around a weapon being good or not good on other specs

>>716422409
I don't, I just want longbow to be good. Only give it access to the new skills if you have the elite spec equipped if the thought of a bad weapon getting an overhaul to be good chaps your ass this much.

>>716422310
How's his new game coming along?

>>716423262
https://mana.works/assets/videos/Bird_Game_November_2023.mp4

>>716423378
>november 2023
>AI already produces better stuff

>>716423378
>flying mounts
dead before it was even alive

>>716420959
Necro is one of the best classes across all game modes
Of all things to complain about, this is really dumb. Flesh Golem is still used today, and if you really wanna be a shitter who uses minions, play open world

>>716423658
You are trolling by refusing to comprehend the facts I stated

>>716422515
Also, there was a ton of other good shit you could do like Spiteful Spirit or BiP. Nuking with Assassin’s Promise while a hero managed minions of their own was the best strategy until Soul Taker

>>716423895
I know what you said. Your upset minions suck
It’s not a valid criticism.

>>716419815
long bow plays fine if you're bow/bow and using the cooldown reduction on swap runes. you can spam the shit out of 2 it's nice

>>716424084
I didn't say that

please stop trolling as it is against the rules, thanks!

>>716424132
I read exactly what you said. It’s not hard to understand
>Minions were good in GW1 (they really weren’t)
>Now the suck in GW2
You’re punching air over this

>>716406670
gw1 sucked ass, it's somehow even worse than wow

>>716411306
paypig cucks will pay up to eat whatever abhorrent slop shitnet shits out, they're the most retarded gay niggers on earth

>>716411919
that's because people actually played it back then, nobody plays it since hot, cope and seethe, tranny

>>716413847
>I'm a fan but i havent played the game for 5 years
many such cases
NO ONE plays this fucking dogshit, not even its "fans"

>>716411306
I played GW1 starting in 2006. All I got was a title I don’t wear and armor skins I don’t like

>>716424805
Actually I played through BL3 for the first time ever this year
it was shit

>>716415140
are you a furfag tranny who desperately has to erp furfag degeneracy? then maybe
otherwise, no, it's the opposite of fun

oh FUCK I was in the wrong thread DON'T LOOK AT ME

>>716416537
they can't make expansions because all of their "developers" (actual development done by timmy tencent and epig gays making unstraight troongine) are completely occupied with shitting out the turd that will be gw3

>>716417695
i almost wish
but instead they will release it and it will flop so hard that it will take ncshit down with it

>>716424338
You are making things up, sir.
Please stop trolling.

>>716424805
I mean im a fan of TF2 aswell and i havent played that game for 5 years aswell

>>716424934
>>716424847

>>716425182
you're not a fan if you don't pkay it, you can't be a fan of a game you don't play
also you're missing the point retard, even this shitty kike game's own retarded nigger fans don't even play it or like it

>>716425132
You are upset over nothing and I dont think you even play the game
Also, you’re flat out wrong when you say necros can only dps.

>Instanced Zone MMO

hard pass.

>>716425345
No i agree with your actual point (regardless of your definition of ”fan”)
Thats why GW3 has a ton of potential. The branding is actually very strong and well-known. A GW3 would for sure bring in a shit ton of players who’d try it

>>716425572
Nobody who’s made a legendary weapon in this game is excited at the thought of doing it again

>>716425696
I have around 15 legendaries

>>716425696
Nobody who's ever met you is excited at the thought of doing it again

>>716417721
>they have been making expansions?
no one says they arent making them, just that the expansions are dogshit-tier and can barely be called expansions
>>716425014
there is absolutely no way that they are working on GW3, releasing a new MMORPG in this market is fucking suicide

>>716425572
well then you must be the ceo of gaynet because that's obviously their exact line of thinking, even though it hinges on a multitude of falsehoods and bent truths, the brand is recognized for being the paragon of woketrash in videogames, faggotnet was bringing wokeshit to videogames since 20 fucking 12, the "modern audience" doesn't exist

>>716425853
jewnet is suicidal
and they unironically believe their dogshit game is "a top 3 mmo" even though it doesn't even register on the top 100 of mmos

>go woke go br-- survive for 15 years in one of the most expensive and cutthroat game markets

>>716425959
doubt ncsoft would give them money for GW3

>>716425853
>releasing a new MMORPG in this market is fucking suicide

>the dogturd that is new world sold 5 milion copies in the first month
>the second most anticipated game after GTA 6 is the Riot MMO

>>716426041
Who's giving them money to hire for all these positions in pic related here >>716401649? George Soros?

>>716426090
>the second most anticipated game after GTA 6 is the Riot MMO
no the fuck it isnt HOLY COPE
>the dogturd that is new world sold 5 milion copies in the first month
that came out 4 years ago anon, a lot has changed since then

>>716426276
NTA but what has changed in the MMO scene since then?

>>716426276
A lot has changed since then, the MMO market is more dire than ever and people want to try a new MMO more than ever
You're absolutely deluded if you dont think GW3 would sell a massive amounts of copies if it released tomorrow (with a proper hype/teaser marketing season like they did with GW2)

>>716401649
>>716426158
makes no sense in any way for them to be making a third game, especially in UE
IF ANYTHING this can be a spin-off GW game, some live-service shit set in GW world but I seriously doubt they'd work on GW3

>>716426610
The number of job postings that mention either MMO or MMORPG isn't insignificant (14 out of 51). There's a pretty good chance it's an MMO, but there is also a chance it isn't.

do charr have decent armor yet or are we still wearing stretched on rags as second class citizens?

>>716426419
not in the mmorpg scene, but in gaming in general
there is A LOT more pushback for shitty games and practices but in MMORPG scene there is a big fucking fatigue, every single MMORPG release lately was disappointing and people are dropping MMOs within a month, there was recently a big eastern MMO came out and was dropped within 2-3 months by 90% of the playerbase, cant remember the name
>>716426453
>MMO market is more dire than ever
this is correct
>people want to try a new MMO more than ever
this isnt, just look at every MMO forum, people have fucking fatigue from MMOs since all of the new releases are garbage, GW3 would have to do some INCREDIBLE and innovative things for it to be a success, and it makes zero sense to release a new MMORPG when you already have a very active one, GW2 is by no meanings dead, its still modern even if a bit graphically dated it would genuinely make no sense from any perspective to pour money into a new MMORPG that would compete with your already alive and successful one
you have no idea what you're talking about

>>716426791
which doesnt mean much, it can be to fill positions for GW2
as someone who worked in a big dev company (I WORKED AT BLIZZARD BTW, FIRST 2ND GEN EMPLOYEE) when there is a new project, usually the senior devs/positions in this case from GW2 would be transferred onto the new project or they would oversee BOTH GW2 and new project, this happens especially at the beginning of new projects, as time goes on and that new project gets more traction, seniors are switching to it full time while their old positions are filled by people either from the team or by new hires, a lot of reshuffling happens in these cases

If anyone cares, a stream just went live thats going to demonstrate the mesmer, ranger and guardian specs
https://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2

>>716427353
>it can be to fill positions for GW2
These are all positions that are specifically for ArenaNet's unannounced project, 30+ of them mention UE5.

>>716396570 (OP)
Gw3?
Yea for sure
Gw2? No, im done with it.

>>716426276
>the second most anticipated game after GTA 6 is the Riot MMO
most retarded post ive ever read

>>716427467
I'm interested in mesmer, did it already happen?

>>716427083
I dont care about MMO forums, id rather look at actual data.
>and it makes zero sense to release a new MMORPG when you already have a very active one
This is ridiculous. GW2 is certainly alive, but i wouldnt call it well, and if they want to grow as a company, sticking to GW2 would for sure not have been the right decision.
Remember that Anet is owned by NCSoft, those fuckers care about growth. Not every game can be EVE Online

>>716426791
>>716427353
>>716427475
also MMO can mean many things, doesnt mean its gonna be an MMORPG like GW2
GTA Online is an MMO, as i've said it can be some live-service shit set in the GW universe

>>716427573
just starting with that one now

>>716396570 (OP)
>MMO's last chance for nth time
Just let it die. Your childhood will never come back.

>>716427524
holy newfag retard, im the one saying its retarded
LURK MOAR newfag

>>716396570 (OP)
No

>>716427630
lets goooooooooo

>>716427467
troubador skills

looks like the heal/utility/elites are based stories based on certain characters
heal: Aurene or Glint
utility 1: Almorra
Utility 8: Dougal keane
Elite Skkill: Queen Jenna

>>716427689
i replied to the wrong post :) hahaha :)))

>>716427731
At a guess, it might work like monster hunters hunting horn, building up notes and then playing them as part of your replaced shatter skills

They are gonna gut chrono to make troubledoor the new support spec :^)

>>716427731
How cooked am I if I only recognize Aurene and Queen Jenna? Who the fuck is almorra and dougal keane

missed the first

>>716427625
>Remember that Anet is owned by NCSoft, those fuckers care about growth.
yes and i can clearly see you have no idea how businesses and game dev companies work in general
to make a new game ESPECIALLY an MMORPG is a HUGE fucking risk and it costs a fuckload of money and these companies will generally go with lower risk options, which is maintaining GW2 since its still making money
new project seems like a side project because they are doing somewhat well and can invest a little into something new, but I seriously doubt its something as big as an MMORPG which requires years and years of development

>>716427990
Almorra Soulkeeper was the commander of the Vigil, she shows up in the base story and Icebrood saga. Dougal Keane was the NPC at the guild exploration part of Lion's Arch and he shows up in Janthir Wilds. Both of them are characters from the GW2 books. Dougal retrevied the Claw of the Khan Ur in ascalon with Almorra's daughter which established the peace treaty between Charr and Humans at the start of GW2.

>>716420959
I feel ya bro
I've always said that GW2 necro just ended up as wannabe dervish instead of the caster that manipulates the dead, blood, or curses

>>716428131
I dont know why you make it seem like MMOs is this gigantic undertaking that no other genre comes close to
Theres been plenty of high profile flops that cost more money than GW3 will probably cost.

This isnt 2010 anymore. Server tech and knowledge is not so arcane and difficult. Neither is making an engine as you can just take an engine like UE5 without having to make your own.
Today, the biggest challenge to AAA games is asset creation. Thats what costs by far the most money. Its not the programming, coding or whatever the fuck, its jsut getting enough models, art, music, etc, to fill the game to a good enough standard. I think you are the one who has no idea about game dev, because you are stuck to cliches from 2010 that dont apply anymore
Calling this project a side project is fucking hilarious. Look at all thes hires, the job listings, and how bad the last 2 expansions were. The unannounced project is 100% their primary focus right now and its 75% an MMORPG, based on job titles and what the company we're talking about is. Not only is it NCsoft which basically just makes MMORPGs but its also Anet. You are high on copium right now, just let it go

>>716427731
Yep they are confirming they're all GW2 characters. Skill type is called Tales. They have improved effects with certain instrument

Heal: Aurene

Utility: Almorra
Utility: Dougal
Utility: Traherene
Utility: Scarlet

Elite: Jennah

I love that it's like an inverted revanant and the character says a line of a little poem each time they're used.

>>716426001
>cutthroat
MMOs are old news and as for surviving, they've done it at the expense of their own staff, multiple times even

any cute German girls near Munich who are single and horny wanna play GW2 with me? :)

The elite is actually a party save. I could see it being a staple addition to anything

>>716396570 (OP)
only if gw3 is actually gw1 with graphics

>>716428807
Didnt they nerf mesmer way back years ago with the F4 AoE distortion it gave. How is this different

>>716428373
you have no idea what you're talking about
even in your imaginary scenario where you only had to create assets WHICH is nowhere near reality
>Its not the programming, coding or whatever the fuck, its jsut getting enough models, art, music, etc
this just proves it, programming especially for an MMORPG is an insane undertaking, from making databases, server code, A GOOD server code which GW2 has and is one of the few that has good server architecture, WoW even after 20+ years has insane server issues
so you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you're talking about, there is a shit ton of coding, shit ton logistics and time and money investment required to make an MMORPG, if they want to make a successful MMORPG there is even more work required as they would have to innovate and do things better than GW2
it absolutely 100% is a huge undertaking, even with current day engines making things somewhat easier
another thing is even if that is GW3 making it in UE5 spells nothing but disaster, GW2 already runs like shit, i cant imagine them doing a better job on UE5 that is already well known to be a shit-tier unoptimized engine
>Look at all thes hires
i did and this is very usual for any new game
>You are high on copium right now, just let it go
says the guy salivating at the idea of GW3
if anyone should let go its you, you are clearly an underage retard desperately hoping for GW3, im just warning you, as someone who has industry experience to not hold out hope as this probably isnt GW3, but im done wasting more time on you since i can see you are high on copium

>>716425853
There is an audience for a new MMORPG but all the ones coming out are just awful.

>>716428997
It's on a 75 second elite skill instead 40 second shatter and you don't have continuum shift on Troubadour.

>>716428997
>granting allies

>>716429075
>programming especially for an MMORPG is an insane undertaking,
>server code, A GOOD server code which GW2 has and is one of the few that has good server architecture
If only they had experience in this…. Lmfao you are so fucking dumb

GW3 will cost less than Concord

>>716425771
I have all the gen 2’s except Exordium and the horn. The thought of doing that all over again sounds like hell and I’d probably drop this series if they did make a game that invalidated all that effort

>>716428807
>grant you both distortion and chaos aura
>the distortion ensures you cant be hit and thus renders the first two seconds of the chaos aura ineffective

>>716429491
COPE HARDER
experience makes things a bit faster but work still needs to be done
and if they are making something completely new that they havent done in GW2 it will take even more time
retard
seethe
cope

>>716429524
Feel free to feel that way but that just tells me you have an unhealthy tie to the game where you feel a sequel automatically removes all the fun you had in the game for 13 years.
Thats why I said the legendary system is cancerous to the game and they should have never added functionality to it.

>>716429562
Auras work when struck. I can't remember if it still works when the attack is evaded, blocked or if you're invuln but I feel like that's why it says it that way instead of upon taking damage.

>>716429802
The legendary system is about having account wide QoL updates to make gearing new characters easy. People like this game for how easy it is to gear alts compared to WoW
Insulting me doesn’t get me more excited for a game that probably doesn’t exist btw

>>716430042
Im well aware what the legendary system is you dont have to explain it to me. Its still cancerous
The fact that you think im insulting you just strengthens my point. In most games the audience would be excited about about a sequel. Promoting unhealthy ties to the game (like gacha, or in this case legendary items) are Anets own fault. I do expect a bunch of people like you trying to shittalk GW3 as we get closer and closer

>>716430320
This game already is a sequel. The work you did in the original doesn’t matter.
I will drop it and move on if they make me. I’ve done it with plenty of hobbies I’ve spent way more time and money on

>>716430647
As i said before, feel free to feel that way, its not normal though

>>716430948
It’s actually very normal, but keep insulting me if it makes you feel better

So... I should not go necromancer when the game is done downloading?

>>716396570 (OP)
No, its going to be trash, I only tolerate gw2 because I was stupid enough to pay for it.

>>716431128
Necro and engineer are the 2 easiest classes to play and can do any role in PvE.
Anyone who told you it’s not good is lying

>>716430948
nta but I'd say it's way more normal to be able to move on from a video game
>>716431128
Necro is great for a first character in my opinion. Minions and stuff are fun and decent for leveling, and when you get to max level it has a really high damage, tanky and braindead build among other good builds.

>>716431368
But hes not moving on from the game. Hes resentful towards the sequel, because he grinded in the previous game, thus he leaves both games.
Actually moving on would mean looking at the sequel with hopeful eyes rather than dread it

>>716431128
My suggestion is to create whatever proffession you want to try, as soon as the intro is over go to the pvp tab on top from there you can teleport to the pvp lobby where all your core trait lines and skills are unlocked and test them out on the dummies.

What are the odds that GW3 just turns into musouslop like BDO?
I would love for them to keep the same combat style but integrate lower CDs on countermeasures (so that damage avoidance can be reliably used over mitigation, ex. guardian's mace 3 skill can be used like a reposte in gw2, but its not terribly reliable because any enemy smaller than you has difficult attack reads) and a bigger emphasis on build variety, but I feel like they will fall into this gayass trap of "true-action" that isnt actually true action like what BDO does.

>>716396570 (OP)
if they revert to guild wars 1 gameplay sure

>>716431932
I hate action combat. Make it slower, make it more tactical

>>716397224
colin left years ago nig-
>he came back in 2021
well shit there might be hope for gw3

>>716432264
Based

>>716400387
specializations are not tied to weapons anymore

>>716428807
WOW A WHOLE 2 SECONDS WITH A 75 COOLDOWN


god I fucking hate tranny wars 2

>>716432516
its 15 seconds retard
you get additional 3 per active instrument, all 4 is 12+baseline 3

>>716433013
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
FIFTEEN (15)
A WHOLE 0.25 MINUTES OF BUFF WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
HOLY SHIT GUYS
GUILD WARS IS
S A V E D
A
V
E
D


kill yourself

>>716433130
thrdie retard

>>716428807
Unfortunately anon, it'll probably just be the tryhards using it as a part of their deeps rotation since it allows you to stack the %to all stats buff, and the boss mechanics you'd want to block with it likely won't line up with the player's rotation.

Are elementalists even running Rebound at all?

>>716396749
and then everybody clapped.

>>716430042
it wasn't that for a long time

and getting legendary gear isn't even CLOSE to an easy or efficient way to gear alts unless you're swiping your credit card, what the fuck

>>716432258
Too bad mmos will never return to tradition.
The entire appeal of an mmo's combat is in the scale, but nobody wants to take advantage of that. I appreciate gw2 because world bosses/metas keep everything populated for large scale actions, but Its not far enough, all the metas that require coordination tend to get one weekly run thats just blown through and after that youre lucky to find half the people needed and they mostly fail, they need that shit to scale if they cant reliably incentivize people to play. I actually think the best runs in auric basin are incredibly un-fun when well stocked, but incredibly fun when its barely enough people and requires well acquainted players like myself to play multiple positions.

It seems like it wouldnt be hard to just check how many people are participating and adjust conditions accordingly

>>716439785
The events do scale but it's mostly just HP values and spawned mobs, and occasionally the devs get really fucking lazy with the scaling and either make it only scale down to like 30 people minimum or don't make it scale at all.

The Marionette and the Attack on Lion's Arch are some that come to mind that really should scale better.

>>716439785
>>716440292
For an example of a well scaling boss take public Dragonstorm. That shit still works with like 5 people on the map and you can almost nuke prim/jormag down with a single dive yourself.

>>716440405
that'd be great if Dragonstorm didn't come with the psychic damage of reminding you how hard Anet fucked everything up

>>716440623
Our boy Primordus deserved better

7:15 CC ET Crystal

>>716429896
>Auras work when struck
Yeah, no shit. And distortion makes it so you dont get struck, thats my point. At best its to trigger aura traits with an effective duration of 4 seconds. Its almost as silly as guardian mace 3 granting both aegis and protection at a glance.