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Anonymous No.716402516 >>716402586 >>716402709 >>716402757 >>716403308 >>716404193 >>716404260 >>716405224 >>716405960 >>716406954 >>716410125 >>716410674 >>716410707 >>716411808 >>716412437 >>716412861 >>716413374 >>716413456 >>716413685 >>716414331 >>716416679 >>716417470 >>716418345 >>716421976 >>716423806 >>716426680 >>716432358
>Hey try out this cool character build bro, you just have to complete 95% of the game first to get it
Anonymous No.716402586
>>716402516 (OP)
It's 5e, there's no builds
Anonymous No.716402709
>>716402516 (OP)
>finesse polearm available only in Act 3
Fuck you Larian
Anonymous No.716402757 >>716402867 >>716405368 >>716410521
>>716402516 (OP)
You can get to level 6 in act 1, which is the halway to max level
Anonymous No.716402867 >>716403413 >>716410861 >>716412717 >>716413951 >>716418345 >>716421005
>>716402757
>Dude this build with level 11 this and this, and the bhaalist armour, and this weapon you get from the jungle, and this thing you can buy from the last vendor you see before the final boss
Anonymous No.716403308 >>716403525
>>716402516 (OP)
Levels are stupid.
DnD was and is a cancer on the TTRPG and CRPG scene.

In a different timeline we had point-buy instead of levels as the main staple. Fuck this timeline.
Anonymous No.716403413
>>716402867
>nooo I have to play the game to get items and levelups
Retard.
Install mods then.
Anonymous No.716403508 >>716403603 >>716403836
Barcus should have been the act 2 companion, not Halsin
Anonymous No.716403525 >>716403801
>>716403308
That's just levels by a different name
Anonymous No.716403603 >>716403853 >>716406985
>>716403508
The short race disrespect in this game is unreal
Anonymous No.716403801 >>716404101 >>716404184 >>716428510
>>716403525
Maybe because I spoke too generally.
But anyone who knows the scene, knows what I'm talking about.

Levels (generally) upgrade a lot of unrelated shit you didn't ask for, they usually follow templates (classes) wich is one of the fucking worst type of progress created that infected everything related to RPG.
Point buy, you upgrade and actually BUILD the character the way you seem fit.

In short, levels are usually used for a pre-determined path. Point-buy is usually used to build the character as you seem fit.

Classes vs Free-form, mostly.
Anonymous No.716403836 >>716430510
>>716403508
Pretty dumb how they just character assassinate this dude at the last second
Anonymous No.716403853 >>716419431 >>716419480
>>716403603
Realistic.
Short races would be extinct.
>B-but fantasy.
I know, I know...
Anonymous No.716404101 >>716404297 >>716410019
>>716403801
I don't think videogames should use levels, point buy, xp, or any of that shit at all.

There should be no progression metamechanics in videogames. You want your character to be tougher in a fight? Buy a suit of armor and play smarter.

Number go up is just lazy game design.
Anonymous No.716404184 >>716404370
>>716403801
Leveling in D&D only increases the amount of class features you get, you only get a certain amount of attribute points to increase your attributes every so and so levels and every edition past 2 lets you freely take levels in other classes so I'm not even sure what you're complaining about.

You literally cannot get any unintended bonuses from leveling in D&D
Anonymous No.716404193 >>716412981
>>716402516 (OP)
>No dude see there's no reason to build strength because you can get these cool gloves that increases it to 27 that you get in the house of hope
Just like the people that tell you not to max out strength or agility in Fallout 1 and 2 because of Power Armour/Implants that you can't get until the last hour of gameplay.
Is it just a CRPG thing?
Anonymous No.716404260 >>716412516
>>716402516 (OP)
>build
This is an RPG, just roleplay dude.

Speaking of 5E. I'm a 3.5E boomer. Do you not get to distribute any more Ability points on level up anymore? I'm level 5, and I didn't see it once yet. Do I have to waste a Feat to increase Attributes?
Anonymous No.716404297
>>716404101
Point-buy anon here, and to desu I agree.

Ideally, any progression should be related to the history. Power-up? Defeat the boss and eat his sould to absorb his powers, or find the weapon that will increase your power, or defeat your mortal enemy and retrieve a lost piece of your own soul.

But I think that point buy is the best way to create your own character.
Anonymous No.716404370 >>716404636
>>716404184
Jesus christ. Why are DnDrones so absolutely fucking braindead?
Anonymous No.716404380 >>716404508 >>716404841 >>716404990 >>716405402 >>716410704 >>716411087
>come up with build that I want to try
>go through my usual autism process of making up a character, personality and backstory to adhere to
>finally start
>make it to maybe halfway through Act 2
>suddenly come up with another setup I want to try
>repeat for eternity

This is why I have like 12 characters in BG3. One day I'll actually finish the game with some of them.
Anonymous No.716404508 >>716405010
>>716404380
Just complete it, retard.
It's an incredibly easy game to finish on honour mode.
Anonymous No.716404636 >>716408951
>>716404370
Because you're still able to make the character you want while also providing you with archetypes to build around to fulfill a character fantasy
Anonymous No.716404841
>>716404380
That's the best part about the game, act 3 sucks ass
Anonymous No.716404882
>Completed this game at level 7 on honour mode
>Could have done it at level 6 to be desu honest.
Anonymous No.716404990
>>716404380
That's me in Souls games. Thankfully, I can just go to NG+7 and just make a jack of all trades.
Anonymous No.716405010
>>716404508
I already beat the game with my first character, I just have a shitload more that are currently stuck in act 2 purgatory as I continue to make OC Donut Steels.
Anonymous No.716405224
>>716402516 (OP)
If you have played any TTRPG before this you will froth at how terrible 5e is
Anonymous No.716405249 >>716405402 >>716405537 >>716405591 >>716411027
>here's all these cool party members you can recruit
>now make sure you always bring Shart and Astarion so you can win rolls and open locks
Okay cool
Anonymous No.716405368
>>716402757
>level 6 is halfway
technically true but 5e is infamous for having an exp chasm
Anonymous No.716405379 >>716422349
>Hey try out this cool character build bro, you just have to complete 95% of the game first to get it
Anonymous No.716405402
>>716404380
this is the proper way to play bg3

>>716405249
>he doesn't play as a charismatic rogue that shanks both of them
skill issue
Anonymous No.716405537
>>716405249
It's really weird that they didn't remove guidance.
Anonymous No.716405591 >>716405732 >>716405787 >>716406776 >>716409815
>>716405249
lockpicking should fucking die in crpgs. Its fucking stupid that a thief is always mandatory no matter what your party composition is
Anonymous No.716405732 >>716407415
>>716405591
It makes sense for a dungeoneering party to have someone capable of dismantling traps and locks
Anonymous No.716405787 >>716407415
>>716405591
>thief is always mandatory
not in bg3, u can open all boxes with weapons
Anonymous No.716405960 >>716406301
>>716402516 (OP)
act three is like 50% of the game itself and mostly a playground for the builds you want to use.
the only builds I can really think of that are late game only are critical damage ones since 90% of crit increasing items are in act 3.
Anonymous No.716406301 >>716410429
>>716405960
>act three is like 50% of the game
Kill Orin, kill Gortash, kill the Brain, that's basically it?
Anonymous No.716406776 >>716407415
>>716405591
Anon you're not thinking big enoughl. You can bash open every treasure chest and container in the game with a bludgeoning weapon and enough damage and not lose any loot inside, you can also burn them, you can use the knock spell with magic users etc.
Anonymous No.716406954 >>716414512
>>716402516 (OP)
What kinda gets me every time is the game is as big as it is and lets you do so much crazy stuff and puts you in so many situations and yet not a single use for rope is in the game, but its an item you find everywhere. Its like they did it as a joke
Anonymous No.716406985
>>716403603
It's deserved, for being short. No, I'm not going to take you seriously you malformed toddler.
Anonymous No.716407248 >>716407407 >>716408424
Playing as solo Durge rogue is so much fun once you get the special cloak.
Anonymous No.716407407 >>716409540
>>716407248
Yeah, but I wish ranged wasn't so much more efficient than melee
Anonymous No.716407415 >>716410281
>>716405732
it makes sense but there should be other ways to bypass hazards than just disarming, which yeah you can actually do in BG3. A step in a right direction but Im talking about rpgs in general. What I mostly dislike is the abundance of loot chests that require a dedicated lockpicker. I know its A D&D staple but it just doesnt sit right with me when some roles are forced on you.
>inb4 you can just skip chests
and lose like 50% of loot in the game. That doesnt seem fun. Maybe they should instead just have less lockpicking checks so it feels actually optional. Like all other checks

>>716405787
>>716406776
I know but playing without a bard or thief still feels like shooting yourself in the foot. Thats my issue
Anonymous No.716408424 >>716408918
>>716407248
What cloak is this m8?
Anonymous No.716408918
>>716408424
Deathstalker Mantle. You get it in act 1 after a point when Alfira (the tiefling bard) joins your camp. You have a Durge melty and wake up having eviscerated her. The next day you get visited by a follower of Bhaal that gives you the cloak.
Anonymous No.716408951 >>716409278 >>716414481
>>716404636
Can I create a Barbarian who doesn't rage like a retard?
Anonymous No.716409278 >>716409480
>>716408951
Yes
Anonymous No.716409480 >>716409886 >>716409928 >>716411581
>>716409278
Anonymous No.716409540
>>716407407
Efficiency is for gay faggots
Anonymous No.716409815 >>716410273
>>716405591
Classes are stupid for dungeon delving.
What the fuck is a wizard doing in a dungeon? He should be at the magical academy or at his tower studying magic.

People who would be dungeon delving should be people who have a little of everything needed for the job.
Anonymous No.716409886 >>716410106
>>716409480
Just play a fighter my nigga, same goes if you want to be a monk without ki powers.
Anonymous No.716409928
>>716409480
It's called Ranger.
Anonymous No.716410019
>>716404101
Upgrading equipment is the same as leveling up.
xp vs money, your stats vs your sword's stats, whatever.
Anonymous No.716410106 >>716410327 >>716410440 >>716410565 >>716410778 >>716412824 >>716415324
>>716409886
I don't want to be a Fighter, nor a Ranger I want to be a Barbarian, a proper fantasy one, like Conan.

DnDfags are so limited they can't think outside of their "classes", everything must be a class, a fixed template.
It sucks so fucking much.
Anonymous No.716410125
>>716402516 (OP)
>start new playthrough
>end up being an unarmed monk + frogwife again
Anonymous No.716410183 >>716410529
Yeah, the minmaxers for BG3 were special
>this build only comes online in Act 3...
when the game is practically over? well in this case Respec is as easy as visiting Withers so you don't have to suffer through using a shitty build for most of the game just to be OP in the last leg of it.
Anonymous No.716410273 >>716410552
>>716409815
bitch, what you going to do when you encounter an ancient magical curse or some shit. Gonna screech and wave at it with your dumb big axe, you barbarian simpleton? You need a wizard to dispell it
Anonymous No.716410281
>>716407415
Definitely agree about CHA, but you do have options other than bard.
It really feels like you miss out if you don't talk your way out of at least some things.
CHA-less party just makes me feel like a murderhobo.
Anonymous No.716410327
>>716410106
Classes are good for tactical games though.
But yeah, for role-playing, it's very limiting and in a bad way.
Anonymous No.716410429
>>716406301
If we’re talking bumrushing to complete the game as fast as possible then both act 1 and 2 can be completed just as quick.
Anonymous No.716410440 >>716410703
>>716410106
it seems like you are the nigger who can't get out of the classes' names
Anonymous No.716410521
>>716402757
You can get to level 8 in act 1.
Anonymous No.716410529
>>716410183
>when the game is practically over?
act 3 is like 40% of the game
Anonymous No.716410552 >>716410761 >>716411703
>>716410273
See? This is the problem with "Classes".

>Oh there's this ability that exists in this world called magic, but unless you follow this exact template and have three levels of a lot of unrelated, irrelevant padding you can't access dispel curse at level 3. So you better pick those magic missiles!

Fuck man, you think Dungeon Delvers wouldn't learn the basic spells for their ONLY job? That's the problem with classes, everything NEEDS to follow a retarded template.
Anonymous No.716410565 >>716410703
>>716410106
If you read the descriptions of the classes, you'd see Conan is not really much of a barbarian by the game's definitions.
I don't care that in a different setting they use the term barbarian differently, if you are trying to make a character fit in a different system you need to do that within that system, obviously.
Anonymous No.716410674
>>716402516 (OP)
>gay vampire on the cover
I'm still never playing this game faggots
Anonymous No.716410703 >>716412458 >>716413192
>>716410440
It's written on the character sheet. Can you at least let me change that?
>No
This game sucks.
>>716410565
Yeah, that's why point-buy is superior, you're not limited to pre-defined templates.
You are not creating your "own character" with classes you're playing the template the devs made for you.
It's their character, not yours.
Anonymous No.716410704
>>716404380
Also doesn't help that a lot of the neat items to build towards and fashion pieces to accessorize with are often loaded at the ass end of act 3 like the STR booster gauntlets, the finesse glaive, the simple looking brown mage robes from the tower, etc.
And you don't really get that much time to use said items before the endgame and that's that.
Anonymous No.716410707 >>716410996 >>716412747
>>716402516 (OP)
>there was a pvp tournament in this game
>guy spamming scorching ray wins
Yeah, this is about the depth of character builds I expected
Anonymous No.716410761
>>716410552
Or they'd carry scrolls and potions, which they do.
Anonymous No.716410778 >>716411017
>>716410106
Conan is a fighter, so just play a fighter. The entire point of fighter as a class fantasy is to be a person who relies on pure martial prowess
Anonymous No.716410787
>classic dnd
>"muh build"
fucking retard ahahaha
Anonymous No.716410861
>>716402867
I mean look at the most popular mods of this game, it's all cheat stuff. 99% of bg3 players just cheat themselves to max level and bis gear, I have no idea why tho.
Anonymous No.716410996 >>716411151
>>716410707
How would pvp even work?
Whoever has higher initiative should just win.
Anonymous No.716411017 >>716411170
>>716410778
Nah, classes are gay.
Just let me create my own character as I seem fit ffs.

Too bad the damage is already done.
Anonymous No.716411027
>>716405249
>so you can win rolls
Silver amulet on the beach lets you cast Guidance without Shart
>and open locks
Knock, or just fucking break the damn thing open, nigga
Anonymous No.716411087
>>716404380
Why not try them on the other characters the game gives you then?
Anonymous No.716411151
>>716410996
They had a special pvp map that had a prebuff phase etc.
Anonymous No.716411170
>>716411017
>getting hung up on nametism
Anonymous No.716411481 >>716411807 >>716413060
This is probably the trashiest rpg I've played for the budget behind it.
Dudes literally said "what if we take a gay Californian polycule's campaign and turn it into a videogame?" An rpg without gravitas is so dogshit to play. I do not understand the appeal of this Marvel, avenger lesbian Asamir fighting LITERAL J.K Simmons. I got more emotion out of steampunk Pinocchio than I did this shit. When you head down the elevator at the end of the game and see Geppetto there. You're like, "Don't you fucking dare..."
Anonymous No.716411581
>>716409480
>play as barbarian
>put points into INT and WIS
>don't use rage
>don't pick any of the barbarian dialogue choices

ez
Anonymous No.716411690
Anonymous No.716411703
>>716410552
>basic spells
what if its not a basic spell? Why cant it require dedicating your whole life to mastering it in universe?
There are low lvl adventures where you can get by with scrolls and pots just for the reasons you mentioned. People just tend to gravitate towards high level because they enjoy high stakes and powertripping
Anonymous No.716411807 >>716411947 >>716411978
>>716411481
>I got more emotion out of steampunk Pinocchio
I don't understand, are you trying to shit on Lies of P too?
Anonymous No.716411808
>>716402516 (OP)
The only build I know that even really fits this is the Spore Druid build and that's barely true itself
Anonymous No.716411947
>>716411807
Think it's more of a "this game is ludokino and made me feel things while this one is dumb and cringe and I wish people would stop talking about it" sort of thing, like how you'd see LISA/OFF fans hyping up their games while simultaneously shitting on Undertale, that sort of thing.
Anonymous No.716411978 >>716415198
>>716411807
No. I genuinely liked it and felt so much for P even though he doesn't say anything all game. It's just such an odd premise. It didn't have any business being better than a sequel to THE definitive CRPG, but it was.
Anonymous No.716412104
>start as a bladesinger
>rush Phalar Aluve by crash landing into underdark via the spider cave
>my build is essentially complete, the rest is just leveling him up
Anonymous No.716412437
>>716402516 (OP)
for me its NWN2, its got actual build variety, some great modules and ceilings unlike NWN1
plus I prefer Kaedrins over PRC
Anonymous No.716412458
>>716410703
nah. Point system is shit because it encourages metagaming and minmaxing. Classes and off combat skills encourage diversity
Anonymous No.716412516
>>716404260
>Do I have to waste a Feat to increase Attributes?
Yes. There’s a few unique items that permanently increases attributes , but in general you can only increase by taking the ability score improvement or a specific feat
Anonymous No.716412717 >>716417231
>>716402867
>This monk build utilizes heavy armor and shields. We take a mix of rogue, warrior and monk classes, not forgetting tavern brawler
Bruh, I just want to be like Ang...
Anonymous No.716412747 >>716412878
>>716410707
>DnD PVP
I have never heard a single story of that kind of thing being interesting or enjoyable, it’s usually metawhores v. metawhores with no describable intrigue
Anonymous No.716412824 >>716413012
>>716410106
Book Conan is more of a fighter, ranger or even thief than d&d barbarian. He’s ruthless, yes, but he’s also cunning and adaptable, uses armour when it’s practical, and is described as panther like rather than bear like
Anonymous No.716412861 >>716413557
>>716402516 (OP)
>hey let's change intiative from d20+dex to d4+dex
>but let's keep that +5 initiative feat intact
What was the thought process here?
Anonymous No.716412878
>>716412747
Because the game isn't built with PvP in mind, there aren't any official rules for it. That's why only plays have death saving rolls for instance.
Anonymous No.716412919
I got bored of having to level up way before the end because spells and abilities were uninspired.
Anonymous No.716412981
>>716404193
>just a CRPG thing?
Absolutely, mainly because CRPG guides assume the only reason you’re looking up a guide is because you’ve already finished the game before, kinda defeats the purpose preplanning the game before trying it once, they assume you’re able to just burn a line directly to each section for each item/gear/weapon so you can utterly curb stomp the more infamous parts of the game
Anonymous No.716413012 >>716413486
>>716412824
Conan is Fighter/Thief with a shitload of CON
Anonymous No.716413060 >>716414158
>>716411481
Its a larian game. They are the most redditeque studio out there, maybe secondary to gearbox
Anonymous No.716413163 >>716413326
>using build guides

whole lotta casuals on this board
Anonymous No.716413192
>>716410703
I hate point-buy. Turns every entity into a board game piece instead of a character. Can't imagine a better way to tell everyone that they need to be metagaming and min/maxing. Imagine having your character die and being able to literally just create a 1:1 identical one in the blink of an eye because every single character is intrinsically the same so anyone can be point-bought into being every other character at the same exp level. It's fucking gay and retarded.
Anonymous No.716413326
>>716413163
>dont use a build guide in WOTR or Kingmaker
>get fucked because 89 hours into the game you dont have blindfight so you are just dead
cant blame them
Anonymous No.716413374
>>716402516 (OP)
Classes in 5e are actually extremely frontloaded, and larians wacky items make them even more frontloaded, which is why the hardcore mode ups the price of some items early game by like 1000%. This is a very simple game to understand, 5e is designed to be played by sheboons and gay Asians with names like Kevin, why are you getting filtered by this very easy to understand game that even normalfags can get good at?
Anonymous No.716413456
>>716402516 (OP)
Only retards copy builds off the internet.
Anonymous No.716413486 >>716413615
>>716413012
Conan is overstatted. He's at peak human strength, peak human con, has amazing dexterity, his charisma is huge, and his int is respectable as well. The only stat he would be mediocre in is wis.
Anonymous No.716413557 >>716413795
>>716412861
Who knows but it certainly makes dex the most busted stat in the game.
Anonymous No.716413615 >>716413815 >>716414230 >>716414617
>>716413486
Why would Conan have low wis?
Anonymous No.716413620
Any required mods for the game?
Anonymous No.716413685
>>716402516 (OP)
bro just install mods you can make the game do whatever you want
Anonymous No.716413756 >>716415810 >>716419468 >>716419768 >>716419873 >>716422505
>*somehow completely breaks the balance of an already unbalanced game*
Anonymous No.716413795
>>716413557
as if dex wasn't already overtuned in 5e
Anonymous No.716413815
>>716413615
Not low, mediocre. He's afraid of everything magical and frequently gets himself into trouble by doing stupid shit in cities. Guy would be dead a hundred times over if his skull wasn't able to resist so many out-knocking mace-blows.
Anonymous No.716413951
>>716402867
And I thought Kingmaker was bad.
Anonymous No.716414158 >>716414245 >>716414626
>>716413060
Oh, I'm not surprised that they did it after playing the Divinity games. It's just that they had the brass balls to do it to such an extent with such a high profile project.
Sandfall went rogue because they couldn't get E33 greenlit. But there's some fucktard suit at the top who's like "Yeah, people want to see a bisexual infernal motorcycle cyborg and a bear you can fuck. Our market research literally shows that women prefer bears over men."
Anonymous No.716414230
>>716413615
Just 14 wis ain't bad
Anonymous No.716414245 >>716414464
>>716414158
Larian is independant so they get away with a lot of stuff.
Anonymous No.716414331 >>716414762
>>716402516 (OP)
the game being D&D 5e is by far the worst thing about it
and even then Larian changed a few things to make it even somewhat playable and for it to have at least an attempt at variety
Anonymous No.716414464 >>716415163
>>716414245
Kinda. If I recall correctly, Wizards will not be doing another game through them.
Anonymous No.716414481
>>716408951
Yeah you take the Wild Magic subclass so you rage like a schizo instead.
Anonymous No.716414512
>>716406954
I walked around with a rope on every character the whole game just in case, and it never came up. Every time I came across a well or crevice, I thought, "this time, for sure."
Anonymous No.716414617
>>716413615
He genuinely doesn’t grasp a lot of civilisation’s traits and conventions.
Anonymous No.716414626
>>716414158
>there's some fucktard suit at the top
it's wizards of the coast, they're woketards through and through.
Anonymous No.716414762 >>716418818 >>716419279 >>716420423
>>716414331
just install the Homebrew Mod
Anonymous No.716415163
>>716414464
Because WoTC has their own inhouse game studio now
Anonymous No.716415198 >>716419308
>>716411978
I feel like the story of Pinocchio has a lot more depth to it than some juiced up DnD campaign setting. Larian weren't exactly working with gold...
Anonymous No.716415324
>>716410106
That's why you can multiclass retard
Without templates i would see fucking magic warriors sneaking also rage is conan thing fuck off
Anonymous No.716415810 >>716419468 >>716419768
>>716413756
>can straight up double its already bullshit damage
Anonymous No.716416573
>phalar aluve
>boots of stormy clamour
>kree derryk elk barbarian
Congrats, you can now kill literally everything in the game in a single turn at level 6 in honour mode.
Anonymous No.716416679 >>716417227
>>716402516 (OP)
>following a build guide
>wtf i have to play the game to make a build
Anonymous No.716417227 >>716417969
>>716416679
>this build is for the last 5 minutes of the game which are very easy and boring anywa, and not for any other part of the game
Compared to Skyrim where you go build the character however you want and will still have most of the game completely untouched.
Anonymous No.716417231
>>716412717
Pure monk is more than viable
People may downplay 4 element because open hand is busted but it's still quite good
Anonymous No.716417470 >>716417718 >>716418580
>>716402516 (OP)
The game could really do with a new game+ mode where you start at level 12 with all the gear in the game accessible in your camp and with scaled enemies.
And the same but with the level 20 cap because it's cool.
Anonymous No.716417718 >>716417943 >>716418062
>>716417470
people claim that you cant make a good high level game but both NWN games and pathfinder games already did it
Anonymous No.716417943 >>716418045
>>716417718
Pathfinders only tuned for endgame man what are you on
Anonymous No.716417969
>>716417227
lmao what? Skyrim is not an rpg, there's no builds
Anonymous No.716418045
>>716417943
only because of the inflated statblocks, if they kept it vanilla it would be smooth sailing
Anonymous No.716418062
>>716417718
And the story feels very high level anyway.
Anonymous No.716418345 >>716418682
>>716402516 (OP)
>>716402867
so play the game regularly until your build comes online later? what's the fucking issue? Is it autism? This is not a hard game in the first place, my first blind playthrough i beat the game on tactician (this was before Honour Mode was added) as a 8/2/1/1 Fighter, Warlock, Rogue, Sorcerer
Anonymous No.716418580
>>716417470
they were going to make DLCs for the game where presumably you transferred your characters over (just like Baldur's Gate 2) to play level 13+ content but WotC personally shitcanned that for some reason
Anonymous No.716418682 >>716419315 >>716420940
>>716418345
>what's the fucking issue?
The issue is the final build becomes available when there is no challenge to play with it anymore.
Anonymous No.716418818
>>716414762
I hate the spell mechanic
Unleveled list feels bad
Anonymous No.716419279 >>716430447
>>716414762
Is it good? Does it lower or increase the overall difficulty?
Anonymous No.716419308
>>716415198
Go to bed, Jordan Peterson.

But, I agree with you. It's actually weird. There's hundreds of these Faerun novels, but they can't come up with something as emotive as Pinocchio after almost 2 centuries. They even kinda mix it with Asian ideas in Lies of P. Finding out what kind of person Geppetto is at the end. No matter how much you love this person, when they become a real monster, you have to let them go, like Izanagi rejecting Izanami in the city of the dead.

They could have potentially crafted a meaningful story out of it with Drizzt's story, adapting the story of a renegade Drow, but that would require having an actual sense of nuance when it comes to racial issues. American libs lack it.
Anonymous No.716419315 >>716421343
>>716418682
You play like the last 30-40% of the game at max level, you won't be fighting any of the superbosses until then either, that is just straight up not true
Anonymous No.716419431
>>716403853
they wouldn't be extinct. you know full well why.
Anonymous No.716419468 >>716419768
>>716413756
>>716415810
A high damage roll with Steeped in Bliss straight up one shots many enemies at my level, fucking insane
Anonymous No.716419480
>>716403853
Why? Pygmies literally still exist.
Anonymous No.716419768 >>716420196 >>716420231 >>716421634
>>716413756
>>716415810
>>716419468
Explain?
Looks like it's just 2-16 which isn't great
Anonymous No.716419873
>>716413756
why did they make it literally just an awkwardly floating particle effect instead of what's depicted in the spell icon. Sometimes i get a magic buff it shows a tinted version of the invisible shortsword model under it and it looks better that way, they should have made that the default
Anonymous No.716420196
>>716419768
Its a spell, you can up-cast it
Anonymous No.716420231 >>716421634
>>716419768
It's a 2d8 shortsword (meaning you can use a shield or an offhand stat stick) that hits harder than a greatsword, lasts until long rest, does not require concentration (it can't be dispelled or anything but you'll have to summon another one if you die-die), does psychic damage which is uncommonly resisted. That's not all though, it scales with spell slot levels, meaning it maxes out at 4d8. There is an item called the Resonance Stone which you can keep in your backpack and makes anyone near it (and therefore near you) vulnerable to psychic damage, doubling its already insane damage.
Anonymous No.716420423 >>716430447
>>716414762
>Homebrew
Which one?
Plenty of mods with that in the title.
Anonymous No.716420824 >>716421279
The "balance" changes Larian made to adapt 5e are insane, thieves straight up get 2 bonus actions, if you make a thief wood elf, get someone to buff you with longstrider and use dash for you actions you can move from one side of the map to another in a single turn.
Anonymous No.716420940 >>716421296
>>716418682
Even if you managed to make some miraculous build that is irredeemably shit before 12 but good at max level then you would still have plenty of good content late Act 2/early Act 3 when you hit 12
Anonymous No.716421005
>>716402867
You can literally acquire all those items before fighting a single boss in act 3
Anonymous No.716421279
>>716420824
If you have an invisible level 6 barbarian with aspect of the elk, you literally can have infinite movement very easily and do literally this in one turn.
Anonymous No.716421296
>>716420940
>good content
>Act 3
Anonymous No.716421343 >>716422097
>>716419315
The problem is that last 30-40% in act 3 is mostly bad, and by that point you're tired and just want to rush to the end after your first play through the game. whereas Acts 1 -2 never get old.
Anonymous No.716421384 >>716421570 >>716421635 >>716421726
Why do supposed masterfully experienced characters like Gale and Lae'zel start at level 1 it makes no sense?
Anonymous No.716421570 >>716421635
>>716421384
Lae'zel is young and RPs as some strong Gith, Gale got put in the cuck cage by Mystra he even mentions he used to be insanely powerful until the bitch broke him.
Anonymous No.716421634
>>716419768
Adding onto what >>716420231 talked about, you can also get weapons and spells that make you more likely to crit, which I think doubles your damage again? So once you have the resonance stone, you do double damage, and if you crit you double THAT damage.
Anonymous No.716421635
>>716421384
>>716421570

Wyll mentions that he had more powers before and apparently the tadpole weakened him.
Anonymous No.716421698
BG3 would have made for a better 3 season TV show.
Anonymous No.716421726
>>716421384
>masterfully experienced
>Lae'zel
there's random convo where AI Gale asks AI laezel about Astral planes and she's like "well, actually I've never been to one", she's a newbie Gith
Anonymous No.716421894 >>716429860
>Path of the giant barb can throw their returning weapon 4 times when raging, 5 if the support in your party casts haste, and 6 if they take an elixir of bloodlust and kill and enemy
Path of the giant is insanely busted. I do wonder what the most busted build is though?
Anonymous No.716421976 >>716422117 >>716422790
>>716402516 (OP)
This thread comes in at a very good time. I dont like turn based games but I really want to finally play bg3 for its story on normal difficulty without cheats

Is there a good team/char build that will stomp everything in one or two shots ( preferably range )? I will follow that and finally play the game
Anonymous No.716422068
I picked it up again and I am having a blast with my oath of vengeance dwarf character. I can’t wait to drop it for the 4th time after getting into act 2 50 hours in
Anonymous No.716422097
>>716421343
>whereas Acts 1 -2 never get old.
Well that was a fucking lie
Anonymous No.716422117 >>716422330
>>716421976
Play on story difficulty.
For me, the two canon teams are Shart, Lae'zel and Astarion. And Wyll, Karlach, and Gale.
If you want to be a magicky character, pick the first, if you want to be a not so magicky character, pick the second.
Anonymous No.716422197 >>716423174
>Duergar's are still OP
>Game is literally no challenge as a Duergar
>Even easier with Kree Derryck by your side.
Anonymous No.716422330 >>716422505 >>716422620
>>716422117
>Play on story difficulty
I still want to try out some very overpowered build. Or did the devs patch out all the op stuff this late
Anonymous No.716422349
>>716405379
Not a problem with NG+
Anonymous No.716422505
>>716422330
The devs have actually added more broken shit. See >>716413756 and its replies.
Anonymous No.716422620
>>716422330
No there's still a lot of OP builds.
I've done a few honour mode runs. I've done one where I stopped leveling at level 6, and did it with just two characters, and it was incredibly easy. I killed Gortash and everyone in the room with him, including all the steel watchers, at his coronation ceremony, in a single turn, without taking any damage.
There are many ways to make BG3 a painfully boringly easy game.
Anonymous No.716422790
>>716421976
There are explosive barrels scattered everywhere in this game which you can take with you, store in your camp and then use to bypass most of the game.
Or you can just use spirit guardians.
Anonymous No.716423135
>First time playing
>Level 11
>Finally realised summoning
>Can summon a djinn whenever I want, who can just fly around ahead, and no one is ever hostile to
>Send him ahead into Orin's temple
>Use thunderwave to push her off a cliff in one turn
>Everyone turns hostile
>Don't care, he's a temporary djinn that can always be resummoned, can just dispel him and move on
Was really disappointed just how cheesable or straight up easy this game is.
Anonymous No.716423174 >>716423415 >>716423496
>>716422197
>Duergar's are still OP
how
Anonymous No.716423415 >>716426576
>>716423174
Not that anon but they're the most OP race in the game. It's just that no one, not even build faggots on reddit or wherever talk or even know about them because no one wants to play as a manlet. It's very funny
>how
just look them up and then imagine if those passives existed on a race that looked like a half-elf. It would have been the definitive race every eastern european youtuber who does these build videos would ever recommend
Anonymous No.716423496 >>716426576
>>716423174
Infinite invisibility.
Entire upper city section is skipped. And I get it, anyone with invisibility spell or potion can skip it, but they can skip pretty much everything by just being invisible and walking around.
Anonymous No.716423564 >>716423673 >>716423701
How is Minsc even alive? Isn’t this several decades after BG/BG2? He was only just a regular Brick shithouse with a alien hamster and permanent brain damage from an asteroid concussion I thought
Anonymous No.716423673
>>716423564
He had himself petrified in case the city ever needed a hero again.
Anonymous No.716423701
>>716423564
He was apparently petrified for most of the time.
Anonymous No.716423806 >>716425063
>>716402516 (OP)
>>Hey try out this cool character build
>in bald gay 3
You already know that's a lite.
The game is too basic bitch to have anything cool.
Anonymous No.716425063
>>716423806
Yes, because Pathfinder is the pinnacle of good game design.
Anonymous No.716426576
>>716423415
>>716423496
Well, they are "balanced" by having less movement, but yeah permanent invisibility is way too strong. Same with halfling luck making it so you can't roll critical misses.
Anonymous No.716426680 >>716426715
>>716402516 (OP)
>he's not playing with the Level 20 Progression Unlocker and Extra Encounters so he's already pushing Level 9 by Act 2
retard moment
Anonymous No.716426715 >>716426801
>>716426680
I like getting trophies :)
Anonymous No.716426801
>>716426715
>he's not using the Achievements With Mods mod
Anonymous No.716427838
what the fuck is up with the /wsj/ invasion?
Anonymous No.716428510
>>716403801
Point buy type systems are more common in crunchy systems, which are niche. Because the vast majority of people just want to play something that's fun and not have to worry about bricking their character because they don't have enough experience with the system. So if you are going to have a freeform system you need to tell the player the numbers they should progress for at certain xp stages. Kinda like levels.
Anonymous No.716429860
>>716421894
Most OP I ever felt was twin crossbow bard. Especially when you get band of the mystic scoundrel and have +10 to save dc.
Close second is tempest cleric/storm sorc/ wizard. Dealing 500 damage with a chromatic orb is insane
Anonymous No.716430121
The item randomizer was fun but I haven't played since the new patch because I didn't feel like updating everything.
Anonymous No.716430447
>>716419279
Not really but there are other mods that do that. This one overalls the game and gives it a bit more of a 3.5e feel.
>>716420423
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/9052?tab=description](https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/9052?tab=description]
There's also notably another unfinished mod that converts the game to PF2e rules.
Anonymous No.716430510
>>716403836
I think you're thinking of Wulbren. If you are, Wulbren being a retarded fanatic is foreshadowed.
Anonymous No.716432358
>>716402516 (OP)
>classes are exactly the same except for two or three spells
kek, nice rpg
Anonymous No.716433626
any mod to make wild magic fun?