Thread 716442291 - /v/ [Archived: 12 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:27:38 AM No.716442291
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Why did they put the best wwapon in the starting area?
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:28:37 AM No.716442361
>>716442291 (OP)
yea fromsoft games are gay like that
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:34:29 AM No.716442821
Because the vast majority of players wouldn't know it's there until later in the game when they're confident enough to clear the graveyard of skeletons
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:35:18 AM No.716442869
I'm pretty sure the long sword is the best weapon in Dark Souls 3 in terms of DPS and you start with it if you play knight.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:36:10 AM No.716442927
It’s way better than the Black Knight Ultra Greatsword too, and that’s the rarest one.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:36:21 AM No.716442936
>>716442291 (OP)

that isn't the drake sword tho
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:36:21 AM No.716442937
>>716442869
Twinblades are better. But you also start with those, so...
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:37:11 AM No.716442987
>>716442869
Lothric’s is better in NG & NG+1 and then the Longsword gets better after that. Assuming you aren’t grinding super hard or anything.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:37:13 AM No.716442991
why are you playing as a woman
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:37:35 AM No.716443023
>>716442821
you can just run past, probably can get the binos too in the same run
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:37:59 AM No.716443058
>>716442291 (OP)
Not meant to be starting, but mid-game. They weren't thinking of min-maxers, or speed runners. They thought you would duck into the graveyard, face opposition, then run away and go to the burg. And even when you went there you would have stats far too low to wield it.

You are meant to go there after the Capra Demon. Which is 25% through. They thought you'd wield it 60% through the game.

They were NOT thinking of someone going "what if I dump all my souls into the minimum stats to wield it right away?"

They literally thought you were gonna dump like 20 levels on Resistance. That's why "builds" are like 10-20 points more efficient than what the devs thought you'd have.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:40:34 AM No.716443207
>>716443023
Of course you can, but most new players going in blind won't
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:43:58 AM No.716443442
I am currently playing through 1.0 on RPCS3 and decided to use the bastard sword, because no one else ever used it due to claymore existing.
Did you know it has unique R1-R2 combos? Like your R2 will look different and be faster after R1, character also does a little spin
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:46:39 AM No.716443609
I easily beat dark soul and never used that. the bigger the weapon the bigger the risk if your timing isn't correct.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:46:54 AM No.716443625
I’ve never finished the game with this thing. On my no-death attempts I just replaced it with the Black Knight Sword if I got that cause it’s better unless you make Zwei Chaos.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:47:40 AM No.716443686
>pick up this or great club
>game becomes solved
yawn
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:47:40 AM No.716443687
>>716442991
why are you gay?
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:47:50 AM No.716443696
>>716442291 (OP)
Because it's good to have access to the most fun weapon early on. So that you can actually play with it through the whole game. If it was at the end, once you've already invested into upgrading some other weapon, it would be pointless. Unless you wanted it for a NG+ run. But that's a lot of investment just to play with a specific build.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:47:51 AM No.716443697
>>716443609
Your timing doesn't matter when you poise break with every hit.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:49:07 AM No.716443792
>>716442291 (OP)
>weapon weighs 20 lbs at most
>swings it around like its a 45 lbs barbell
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:51:18 AM No.716443938
swagsword
swagsword
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Dexbros kneel.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:51:36 AM No.716443961
>>716443687
I'm not gay, unless wanting to fuck people who play as women is gay, then I'm gay
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:03:10 AM No.716444707
>>716443792
Please understand
The main character in each one of the games is juiced up on soul/rune shaped steroids without any formal weapon training. The weapon arts, spells, even the basic movesets are the work of others, you're just some bum that found a thing(some edge cases where you help them in the final stage of their research)
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:03:42 AM No.716444741
>>716443792
Look at the actual model, it's like an inch thick at the center for most of the blade, it's shaped like an irl zweihander but irl measurements clearly don't apply, it probably does weigh like 50lbs
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:06:43 AM No.716444960
>>716443058
Man they aren't that bright are they? Why game dev doesn't think his game will be played by GAMERS
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:07:46 AM No.716445026
>>716444960
Fuck. What* game dev
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:08:24 AM No.716445065
>>716442291 (OP)
It's worse than Claymore, Flameberge, etc
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:09:21 AM No.716445128
Reinforced-Club
Reinforced-Club
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>>716442291 (OP)
because you don't expect it to be
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:09:35 AM No.716445143
>>716443687
>Tranny dodges the question
kek
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:10:38 AM No.716445224
>>716442291 (OP)
The meta was not known when the game first came out.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:11:26 AM No.716445285
>>716445224
This. It took me a couple months to figure it out.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:16:53 AM No.716445636
Scythe
Scythe
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For me, it was the Great Scythe.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:17:10 AM No.716445661
>>716444741
The weight is 10 lbs actually
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:18:19 AM No.716445732
>>716443938
weird looking shield
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:22:37 AM No.716445990
>>716443058
Reminder that the actually buffed soul acquisition in the later patches. Launch Day you would the game around SL 60-70 without grinding compared to at least getting to SL 80 we have currently.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:22:38 AM No.716445994
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>>716445661
The weight is 10 arbitrary heaviness units, which is only slightly less than this 4' long slab of solid steel
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:28:52 AM No.716446405
lookin at you
lookin at you
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Did a dedicated estoc run recently it was pretty fun
Is the abyss greatsword worth its own run
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:30:42 AM No.716446523
I like this but when it's hidden so well you'd only know it through NG+.

Stonekeep has the absolute best weapon in the game, an extremely fast dagger that hits for obscene damage, hidden in a wall at the very beginning of the game, but you need to press a hidden switch you'd never know existed the first time around.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:32:01 AM No.716446613
>weapons that have reach and hit hard enough to reliably stagger break the game because the entire combat system is built on the player having shit range and enemies not getting interrupted
>this is good game design, allegedly
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:32:56 AM No.716446689
>>716443697
It matters if you're naked and you get hit while you swing.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:34:02 AM No.716446765
>>716446613
Dark Souls is obviously very flawed. But it started a whole genre.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:34:27 AM No.716446802
>>716446613
The alternative is ungabunga that is neither unga or bunga
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:37:22 AM No.716446984
>>716446802
what about a game where combat difficulty isn't 90% derived from faggots leaping 15 feet to stunlock you to death
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:39:00 AM No.716447108
>>716442291 (OP)
Finally beat Malenia with zweihander and lion's claw. What a dogshit fucking boss
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:39:19 AM No.716447123
>>716444960
>Man they aren't that bright are they? Why game dev doesn't think his game will be played by GAMERS

Because it's balanced around newbies and playtesters not elite min-maxers. They didnt' even think about that, which is why DS has this kind of naturalness and naivite to it.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:46:50 AM No.716447589
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>>716442291 (OP)
>DS1
>Use Zweihander R2 attack for the first time
>Don't use anything else for the rest of the run
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:49:36 AM No.716447776
>>716447108
Should’ve used Zweihander with Giants Hunt. Way better than Lion’s Claw.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:51:45 AM No.716447907
>>716446405
it's good but you probably beat like most of the game by the time you get it.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:51:45 AM No.716447909
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>>716442291 (OP)
>no scaling
>best weapon
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:52:54 AM No.716447971
>>716447909
Great now you can put those points into vitality and endurance which are better stats
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:53:48 AM No.716448030
>>716447971
Only shitters invest in vitality
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:54:25 AM No.716448063
>>716442937
Yeah. Can't beat the winblades. I used them on my 1st run. I thought I was so good afterwards.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:56:17 AM No.716448204
>>716448030
Wrong. You’re more aggressive if you get hit. You’ve been brainwashed by big YouTube into thinking getting hit = bad. Hyperarmor and poisegods rule this world.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:56:35 AM No.716448232
>>716442291 (OP)
Zanzibart the trooned out
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:56:54 AM No.716448251
>>716447776
I used giant hunt with a halberd in my playthrough and while I love that AoW it was surprisingly clunky and underwhelming against her. Beat her 2nd try with the claw
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:57:27 AM No.716448268
>>716447909
>>no scaling
It has C/C quality scaling though.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:58:22 AM No.716448330
just finished a run where I only used bows on their "first person" mode.
It was fun but I wouldn't recommend, just use lock on if you're gonna do a bow only run.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:58:47 AM No.716448360
>>716448268
Anything below A is literal dogshit not worth any extra points
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:59:22 AM No.716448403
>>716448268
Quality is basically no scaling. More points needed for the same or worse performance than dex or str.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:59:22 AM No.716448405
>>716443792
20 pounds is hard to lift when you're only holding one end of it.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:59:33 AM No.716448417
>>716442291 (OP)
If you're not playing bandit knife only, no armor, no rings, no vitality upgrades, no summons, and no shield, then you didn't beat the game.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:00:16 AM No.716448471
>>716443058
that almost sounds reasonable if it wasn't for the fact that we know Fromsoft has no idea what they're doing 90% of the time, and can'T ba;ance for shit 100% of the time
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:02:54 AM No.716448660
>>716448471
Dark Souls isn't fucking league of legends, dude.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:03:44 AM No.716448708
>>716448417
>bleed weapon
I'm going to have to revoke your "beat the game" card.
Replies: >>716448935 >>716449082
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:05:25 AM No.716448840
>>716448417
Tiny weapons are unironically 10x more fun than 2-handers. I pity the metaslaves who never played sword and board souls or knife souls.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:06:53 AM No.716448935
>>716448708
Try to build up said bleed during ornstein and smough on starting level HP without armor and without a shield before you talk shit
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:08:58 AM No.716449059
>>716448935
You can't be that bad at dodging Orsteins attacks
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:09:15 AM No.716449082
>>716448708
Bleed sucks lategame as most bosses are immune to it
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:10:50 AM No.716449173
>>716447909
imagine the sex
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:15:54 AM No.716449461
>>716449059
It's more that you need to attack aggressively to build up bleed, otherwise it goes down. And you can only get a hit on Ornstein when you punish his attack or his AI bugs out for a sec, and then he's back to jumping around and you not being able to hit him, rendering your bleed useless. And the bandit knife does fuck all base damage to him. It's one of those situations where it's better to go for Smough, because you have a few more opportunities to hit him multiple times in a quick succession, so you can build up bleed, but unreliably. However, the bandit knife does a more reasonable base damage to him even if you don't manage to build up bleed.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:16:02 AM No.716449475
>>716442291 (OP)
They didn't, they put it on the bridge under the Drake, but I suppose its still pretty early on.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:18:02 AM No.716449579
>>716443938
For me it's the silver knight straight sword. The stats aren't optimal and it can't be buffed, but it's one of fromsofts best looking swords. Sucks they never brought it back in 3.
>>716442937
>>716448063
>twinblades
Made me love the BKH in 3 soley because I could hard counter twin blade users in PVP lol. It has just enough range and speed to keep those aggressive shitters back with easy 2-3 hit combos
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:18:17 AM No.716449594
>>716449475
You need to shoot at the drakes tail enough for it to break, which you'd only do if if you knew or decided to keep shooting to the last arrow/bolt
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:19:46 AM No.716449681
>>716449594
No not that one, the one on the bridge.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:21:30 AM No.716449781
>>716448471
>balance
>single player game
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:22:12 AM No.716449819
>>716442291 (OP)
cause noobs will still try to spam hits with it and get fucked anyways
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:23:32 AM No.716449904
>>716449579
>it can't be buffed
he doesn't know
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:25:21 AM No.716450004
>>716442291 (OP)
best weapon is club and you can start with it
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:25:22 AM No.716450005
>best weapon
thats not the gargoyles halberd, the falchion, or the dragon king greataxe
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:26:09 AM No.716450048
>>716449904
I don't know....
[Spoiler] Tell me now [/Spoiler]
Replies: >>716450280 >>716452416
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:26:20 AM No.716450053
>best weapon
who cares when pyromancy destroys everything with ease
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:28:40 AM No.716450220
>>716442291 (OP)
that shit is useless in tight corridors and small rooms (90% of the game).
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:29:42 AM No.716450280
>>716450048
Anon-kun...
Replies: >>716450974
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:29:45 AM No.716450286
>>716450220
neh, run r2 is a downwards forwards slash that pancakes
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:33:20 AM No.716450520
>>716445990
The only reason for that was to encourage coop/pvp anyway
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:34:14 AM No.716450581
>>716442291 (OP)

pyromancy and the bow you can immediately pick up in new londo ruins are both thousand times better
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:35:18 AM No.716450647
>>716450220
Lol, Lmao even, the strong attack has good range, hits in a straight line and staggers if not flattens the majority of enemies in the game
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:35:47 AM No.716450682
Darkroot Basin isn't the starting area. And the droprate is like 20%.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:37:13 AM No.716450768
>>716450682
ok but what are you talking about?
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:38:51 AM No.716450883
>>716446802
Try to speak actual words
Replies: >>716451173
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:40:19 AM No.716450974
>>716450280
It's over.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:40:31 AM No.716450990
>>716450682
The best weapon in the game, at least for NG. It's the Black Knight Halberd.
For later NG+ cycles it falls off due to shitty scaling. Gargoyle's Halberd is the best then, but Great Scythe, Claymore and Falchion are also good.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:43:19 AM No.716451173
>>716450883
Heavy weapons SHOULD be absurdly powerfull, if i'm smashing you with a giant stick it better feel like it, i'm not interested in big weapons that look but don't act the part
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:46:43 AM No.716451373
>>716448403
This is ds1 not Elden ring, quality is great because the damage caps are much lower so pushing a single stat gets pitiful returns beyond 40 or 50 even with A or S scaling, and two C's at 40 each is at least as good as 1 A.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:51:52 AM No.716451662
>>716451373
Don't forget in DS1 you basically max out Strength at 27 while 2-handing.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:01:18 AM No.716452251
>best weapon
>not a longsword
Lol, lmao.
>but muh damage
>but muh poise break
Irrelevant, long swords are the most /fa/ and the most trustworthy, with versatile movesets, can be dual wielded or used with shields and can be buffed or made to fill multiple niches. A backup spear makes it 10/10.
Replies: >>716453058
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:03:48 AM No.716452416
>>716450048
You can buff it using some glitch by falling off an edge. Lets you buff any weapon but it’s kinda annoying to do and you can just… kill whatever you wanna kill before doing it.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:15:54 AM No.716453058
ddt
ddt
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>>716452251
>ugly floating cardboard sheath
>mogged by SKSS
>effay
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:18:31 AM No.716453204
fg
fg
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>>716443687
if the girl is hot you can play a woman, souls games have never had attractive player made women characters. they're still using facegen technology from oblivion
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:19:26 AM No.716453246
Finding the great club in DS1 was like a revelation from Gwyn to me
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:24:38 AM No.716453574
>>716448471
>90% of the time
I think they know what they are doing, at first at least The problem is that after finishing 60% of the game they notice the release date is in a couple of months and they need to finish the game ASAP.
Replies: >>716454290
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:36:18 AM No.716454290
>>716453574
ehh I feel like they lucked in on a good formula and just kept going with little understanding of what made it good. Sure maybe one or two guys "gets" it but every game feels like they're just trying random shit and winging it, often making baffling decisions that anyone playing the game once would point out but somehow they never catch these issues. You'd tell me Fromsoft has no QA process and I'd believe it.
Hell half the time they patch something they break something else even worse and take months to fix it, if ever. Current ER still has a bunch of PvE effects uing PvP values, which they brok and fixed like 3 times before. It just keeps happening.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:41:43 AM No.716454631
>>716443058
I think like half of players probably grinded those skellies in the graveyard for over an hour before they realized there's another direction to go in. I found the zwei in my first playthrough for that reason
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:43:15 AM No.716454713
I like how they made the flagship sword used in most of the chosen undead renders, the Astora’s Straight Sword, really really bad.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:44:11 AM No.716454759
Halberd
Halberd
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>>716442291 (OP)
Yeah, it's crazy how quickly you can get it.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:48:08 AM No.716454985
good/ bad doesnt matter in ds1 the game is easy enough that you can do well with anything
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:49:24 AM No.716455059
>>716454759
halberds are op irl so it makes sense
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:51:00 AM No.716455138
>>716454985
That's a lie actually. DS1 has several weapons that are totally useless, like the caestus, claws, basically anything short range, spears, bows, halberds
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:51:26 AM No.716455151
>>716442821
Graveyard is one of the first places you'll poke your nose into, and I figured it was there to teach me the importance of doing suicide runs for loot.
First time through I rocked the winged spear as long as I could.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:52:51 AM No.716455234
>>716455138
Bows are really good in DS1 you can just cheat and kill bosses outside the arena with them.
Sperglord Manus never stood a chance.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 3:54:30 AM No.716455331
>>716455138
sounds like you are not very good
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 4:03:11 AM No.716455816
>>716442291 (OP)
Fromsoft game is just casual game for jarpigger anyway
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 4:06:52 AM No.716456029
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>>716442291 (OP)
Because it only makes sense to offer the player the game's easy mode option right at the start.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 4:07:46 AM No.716456084
>>716455138
claws and gwyndolin's bow are the only abysmal things on here
>>716455816
keep working on your english and your bait will be better in no time
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 4:44:10 AM No.716458096
seonghyeong-munhwa-korean-culture-before-after
seonghyeong-munhwa-korean-culture-before-after
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>>716442991
there's literally nothing wrong with a man playing as a woman
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 4:45:30 AM No.716458165
>>716442991
It's a lot gayer if every single one of your characters is male.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 5:09:58 AM No.716459608
>>716442991
Souls characters are closer to Art OCs than "literally" me from my perspective.
And what kinda guy has more than one or two male OCs unless their gay.