does /v/ have any helpful tips for ss2

yeah

>>716455126
Well, what are they?

>>716453951 (OP)
Put points into standard weapons. Use melee as much as possible in the first 2/3 decks to stockpile ammo. Level maintenance, not repair.

I want to marry SHODAN.

>>716453951 (OP)
Beware of SHODAN.

You can't have sex with a genocidal AI

>>716453951 (OP)
play Prey 2017 instead

Ignore hacking
Max out standard weapons and strength

>>716453951 (OP)
hacking (and cyb affinity) is an overrated module sink that does not pay for itself
You do not need repair, you need some maintenance
1 early point in energy lets you use laser pistols
laser pistols suck vs bio but rape robots and the ammo is basically free and you can carry multiples and even cycle between them to bypass overcharge delay
cargo bays is a huge difficulty spike
1 point in heavy for grenade launcher is worth
going further in energy lets you use rapier which is decent and EMP which totally trivializes robutts for the rest of the game
Going standard 6 is a no brainer since AR is busted
Exotic is a joke aside from crystal shard

You are playing as the bad guy

Communism is an inevitability

>>716453951 (OP)
All in on swimming and environmental.
Wrench with the wrench.

>>716458743
JC you're drunk, go to bed

>>716458832
Sticks and stones.

you can kill the flies with localized pyrokinesis

>>716453951 (OP)
The assault rifle is by far the best weapon in the game.

Normal is pretty easy and hard to fuck up. You can beat the whole game with just the pistol.

how is the remaster?

My favorite spot in the whole game is that little cubbyhole behind the help desk on the Recreation deck. I trip the alarm, dive into my gooncave, and shoot hybrids/nurses/monke/whatever else shows up in the legs with my shotgun.

>>716462770
Multiplayer crashes like crazy and the new character models are shit but otherwise it's alright. Too expensive though

I'm not ashamed to admit that I really liked the System Shock 1 remake. Up until the last boss, anyway.

>>716464518
Nothing wrong with it, don't mind the grognards (though a lot of them liked it as well)

>>716453951 (OP)
Just run past enemies. Standard weapons are OP.

>>716453951 (OP)
If you want to cheat You can invest points in maintenence, drag a maintenence tool on your weapon, and press the undo button get your modules back.

You can do the same to unlock psi power by switching to the power you want.

You can also plant a wrench in the door of the after the first power station to jam it open.

The replicator on maintenence near the elevator sells med hypnos for cheap.

You can

>>716453951 (OP)
So after ~ a week how's the switch port?

>>716465043
I don't know about switch but it was a pretty good experience on xbox. Controller scheme could be slightly better

>>716458743
stick with the wrench
wrench with the wrench

>>716465087
You got gyro controls on xbawks?

>>716465173
Apparently, but I was using an older controller

What the FUCK was their problem?

>>716465234
> Nurse Loesser picked one out of a cage to be brought in for vivisection and the rest of them, I mean the entire group, stood up on their legs and howled. This wasn't just a random display, it was a protest.

>>716458832
do you have a singnltl gnglreg asd ajf zxcvznoofd

>>716462770
It's fine I only came across a couple of times where decal textures appear and flicker or debug mode triggers became visible, got it for free with the remake pre-order so I can't complain but if you bought it on steam 15 years ago for 2 bucks the new pricetag might seem a bit steep.
the other thing people are whining about is the "enhancements" are mods and work on the old version and multiplayer which still doesn't work properly though I haven't tried it myself and some report it working just fine...

>>716465234
They kept seeing their monkey buddies get cut open while alive?

>>716458360
this guy system shock 2s

>>716458360
>hacking (and cyb affinity) is an overrated module sink that does not pay for itself
Disagree. Hacking security terminals and turrets is sometimes worthwhile.

>>716453951 (OP)
Being a Psi ninja and buffing yourself into a melee god is fun as hell. I don't even bother with that faggy crystal shard. You can turn your psi amp into a wraithblade that hits almost as hard and looks a lot cooler.

>>716453951 (OP)
pick energy weapons at start for free laser pistol then find all 7 lootable guns, abuse overcharge
ez imp game

>>716464518
I thought it was pretty good. Much better than I expected it to be.
I don't like how they went all-in on ambient music though, but I can understand why they poopoo'd the vibe of the original. It just always rubs me the wrong way when remakers can't appreciate the spirit of the original's music(looking at you star ocean, DX revision)

>>716466486
Its standard swing actually hits harder than the shard but the shard performs better with overhand. It also does full damage to mech unlike the shard

Do you need to keep the researched mutant parts if you want the extra damage, or is it permanent?

>>716453951 (OP)
master hitting things with a stick, hit monke with a stick

>>716467091
permanent

>>716467132
Oh thank goodness

>>716467202
You can't even recycle them later, so yeah, just dump them when done.
The pro move is to hold on until the next enemy of the same type, then get all Congo by throwing it at them before killing them.

The early-game of SS2 feels so retarded, your weapons are almost broken and you don't get maintenance tools until a fair bit later. So you're constantly throwing guns onto the ground and picking up lootable ones.

>>716467780
use the wrench on deck 1 and 2 for everything but turrets or cameras high up

Nah

>>716467780
It feels retarded because you're playing it retarded, there's no reason to use guns in medsci except for maybe a couple cameras and personally I like shooting the monkeys because wrenching them is annoying
Having a decent rank in maintenance makes tools go a lot further, most of SS2's difficulty stems from misallocated cybermods

>>716467892
>>716467957
>Just like...Don't the ingame content!
Or how about you design a game properly you fucking retards?

>>716468087
Only midwits dislike the hobo phase of RPGs

>>716468152
Homo phase is fine, the issue is that the skill system has a bunch of shit that you can't even use until pretty far into the game.
>Not able to use a worm cannon in early game
Okay that makes sense, it's end-game stuff
>Can't maintain a fucking gun even if you have the skill because nothing drops it early
That's retarded.

>>716467780
filtered by the alarm? you can turn it off at any security terminal

>>716468087
Ammo and weapons being in scarce supply, so knowing when to melee and when to range, is proper game design, wetbrain. It's not a fucking rushdown shooter.
Good lord, this is what calla doodoo does to a zoomer.

>>716457765
I really don't understand peoples love of this game
It's not even close to being as good as SS2
It's a slightly better Bioshock

>>716468273
Alarms in SS2 are weaksauce compared to infinite-robot-spam of Bioshock 1-2.
Oh the horror...Some wrench-goons are coming for me. Maybe a cyborg woman as well.

>>716468087
Wow yeah you're even more retarded than I thought

>>716468241
>the issue is that the skill system has a bunch of shit that you can't even use until pretty far into the game.
Fair, though that mostly affects Exotic and Psi
>>Can't maintain a fucking gun even if you have the skill because nothing drops it early
You get maintenance tools post the Engineering radiation tunnels, that's pretty early.

>>716468306
I don't give a shit if stuff is scarce early on, what is annoying is trivial mechanics being gated until later into the game due to loot drops.
>>716468362
Maintenance shit should show up in the medical level to get people to understand the mechanic organically.

>>716468336
Early game maybe, and even then you'll get flooded by them.
Way less resources as well, especially on harder difficulties.

>>716468320
I mostly appreciate it because it's one of the rare imsims that lets you work evil to get shit done in unexpected ways. Like using O2 tanks as bombs to move unmovable shit instead of getting lift upgrades, or gloogun cheese.
SS1 and 2 are fantastic, but they're different games, and don't contain much evil in them.

>>716468320
Please just ignore them, Arkanetrannies are an embarassment

>>716468437
Farming shotgun shells from hybrids can be pretty nifty, if you're running a little low.

>>716468406
MedSci is a glorified tutorial level until you have to backtrack and has enough resources even without resorting to melee.

>>716468521
Guns break at low quality levels, and the chance is pretty RNG.
You can pick up most lootable guns in the early game and have them jam before a magazine is fired.
That's shit-tier game design if you can't maintain em.

>>716468517
They hardly ever drop it though

>>716468498
Bethesda Arkanetrannies maybe, Arx Fatalis and Dark Messiah are top tier.

>>716468565
Shotgun hybrids have a shockingly good chance to drop like 6 shotgun shells, smack a few around with a wrench/crystal and you can quickly gain a couple dozen shells.

>>716468563
>Guns break at low quality levels, and the chance is pretty RNG.
Most guns you get are at level 5-6 though
>You can pick up most lootable guns in the early game and have them jam before a magazine is fired.
Not true at all, pistols, shotguns, assault rifles and Energy Pistol/Rifle are all super reliable.

>>716468647
Can you at least play the game you're talking about, nigger?
When firearms hit low quality they RNG jam which breaks the weapon.

>>716468608
Lucky you I guess, I always just get a broken shgotgun and maybe a soda

>>716468565
>Arx Fatalis and Dark Messiah are top tier.
Agreed and most arkanetrannies have never played them, they spend most of their time insisting Dishonored is better than Thief and Prey is better than SS2

>>716468685
At 1-2 yeah

Imagine getting filtered by medsci holy shit

>>716468685
why are you using low quality firearms though

you find a couple of 5+ quality guns use them instead

>>716468782
>Heh, anon has criticisms for how the skills are laid out in the gameplay sections
>Better say he can't pass the glorified tutorial level
Sorry, too busy beating the game to listen to your niggerdry.

>>716468715
True, modern Arkane fans are just Bethesda redditors after all, Dishonored really raped that company dead.
So glad consoleshittery like that has died down.

>>716468820
>redditspacing jeet has no idea that weapons reduce in quality as you use them
Lol, lmao
These fuckers really just read a chatgpt synopsis of the games they talk about, don't they?

I didn't even know you got enough ammo early on to blow up a weapon like that

Maybe via actually playing the game and looting shit?

>>716468872
of course i know that faggot

i literally never had an issue with pistols breaking you suck ass

>>716468872
More likely they haven't played it in awhile.
Changing parameters like degradation rate used to be standard form for people playing it, to say nothing of the modding scene, so yeah, there's some likelihood that the last time they played it, it wasn't a "vanilla" experience.

Does the Tinker OS upgrade affect weapons that have already been modified?

>>716468823
MedSci is fine if you're not doing a Psi only run anon, I really don't get the hate.
There's actually bad shit like Psi Skills being completely fucked in terms of progression, the Egg Hunting and the Digital Painting quest.

>>716468872
Anon, even with the quality reduction you can kill a whole army with a weapon at level 6, are you shooting bots with red ammo or something?

>>716468981
>I've never experienced a gameplay mechanic you actually have to experience if you have played the game
What did he mean by this?

>>716468985
I've never fiddled with degradation rate or even complained about it because the whole mechanic is the biggest nothingburger and always has been, incredible how it completely filters the dumbest mouthbreathers fresh from generic fps #2598 though

>>716469004
And for that matter which OS upgrades should I get? I've already got Spatially Aware

>>716469065
It's not an issue once you start getting maintenance tools.
The issue is that such a vital gameplay mechanic is arbitrarily gated well past the point a player should be introduced to it.
Imagine if you introduced psi past engineering you fucking retard.

>>716469034
i mean i am not a retard and can play a game competently, i have beaten it multiple times on hard

breaking weapons? never an issue for me

you suck ass, and you whine like a little shit because you can't face the truth that you do

>>716453951 (OP)
I always put a lot into agility just so I can outrun most enemies
What's funny though is if your agility is too high, you take damage when you run into walls

>>716469065
Reminds me of Trigens in FarCry

>>716469116
Depends on your build
I usually go for the 2 Implants and the Speed upgrade immediatelly.

>>716469165
SAR! SAR PLEASAE DO THE NEEDFUL, DO NOT SHIT ON NONDESIGNATED STREET! LISTEN TO BRAHMEN SUPERIORS!

>>716469131
It's not an issue period you screeching child, amazing that I've been watching idiots get filtered by this game for over a decade and yet I've never seen this complaint because none of them were quite as stupid as you. Congratulations.

>>716469204
>What's funny though is if your agility is too high, you take damage when you run into walls
Not true, that only happens if you use the speed hypo consumables.
Skills/Passives don't have that con.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAlCkJ4pWr0

>>716469258
Who the hell is paying people to shill against criticism of a 25+ year old game?

>>716469241
wow you just proved me right with that pathetic reply

>>716469316
Frankly he's a liar.
There's zero chance he's been playing for over a decade and talking to people about it, yet never once heard a complaint about degradation rate, or someone's weapon breaking. It's literally not possible.
So yeah, liar.

>>716469316
Quality reply SAAR got any more shitty posts to try to deflect from how fucking retarded you are?

>>716469131
>Imagine if you introduced psi past engineering you fucking retard.
Most people probably got introduced to Psi way after that considering Psi is overly complex and completely broken in terms of progression.

>>716469204
combining high agility and the speed increase consumable is great

>>716469359
He's not complaining about degradation rate you illiterate, he's complaining about his weapons breaking during early game because he's firing them so much before he gets any maintenance tools. I guess the game should be designed around magdumping pipe hybrids.

>>716469419
>Gets spotted by every camera
>Gets lost countless times
>Magdumps every enemy
>UUUUUHHHHHH WHY ARE MY WEAPONS BROKEN?
lol another retard successfully filtered

>play game with limited ammo and weapon durability
>magdump melee enemies until your guns break

interesting strategy

If you trigger an alarm you can click a wall mounted security station to turn it off, don't need hack skills.

https://voca.ro/1oRBnPqEL6Uk

Weapon durability has never added anything to any game ever made.

>>716470135
>Forces you to use other weapons, adapt and keeps things fresh
>Makes you not rely solely on one weapon
>Forces you to make decisions and differentiates the same type of weapon
>Sell value depends on it's durability value
In shit like Zeldo it makes no sense though

>>716470135
It's ok in some games where you can't repair so it makes certain weapons precious resources. I guess guns don't need that since you can just make ammo rare instead though.
I don't think I've ever seen a game where you can repair weapons where it added anything though, yeah.

>>716470135
cool opinion from the lowest denominator

>>716453951 (OP)
Standard Weapons and Maintenance. Literally all you need.

>>716458669
So is death, so the same thing really.

>>716471102
>No hacking
You didn't beat the game

>>716465234
you relaxed.

>>716471195
Hacking is cool, but it becomes less and less useful the more familiar you get with the game.

>>716471431
Thats true but it doesn't feel right playing system shock without being a hacker, its part of the whole vibe.

There's some neat gameplay overhauls that actually make hacking worth it but it's more of a flavor thing in vanilla.

the hacking dicerolls in 2 kinda sucks ad you cna just brute force it with saving and loading
I prefer the puzzles in 1

>>716465234
>>716465302
I was never 100% clear on whether the monkeys gaining sentience was an early sign of the Many's influence or if it was because of the brain experiments being done on them. I like to think it's the latter and they just seized on the chance to kill humans.

>>716470135
Clearly it added something to this game since that anon in this thread can't stop whining about it

>>716471875
puzzles are just annoying on subsequent playthroughs and don't get me started on shitty minigames like pipe dream or just holding the button down while bar goes up
SS2 leans in hard in RPG mechanics and the hacking is a perfect example of that. Quick simple abstraction of clicking a few boxes and you're good. Savescumming is a you problem
the bigger problem with hacking is its low impact and overpriced and the few times you really want it, you have ice picks

>>716470135
I disagree since I'm of the opinion no design idea is inherently wrong. That being said, I think it's a highly situational mechanic, better used for more horror-related games.

>>716471875
it's not great but at least it's quick

In other immersive sims you spend hours in the hacking minigames

>>716472057
I think their psionic nature allowed them to tap into The Many without needing a brainworm
I can't remember but don't they show up in the BotM and the brain chamber?