Find a flaw

>>716477943 (OP)
The environment design is extremely low effort
Dungeons are featureless cave corridors
Mana design and calendar time limit strongly encourage the player to waste lots of realworld time farming mana with mage jobs by oneshotting mook enemies instead of playing normally. Game punishes you excessively for trying to clear dungeons that you aren't overpowered for

>>716477943 (OP)
easily the fact that the translators were jewish gays who changed the original meaning of the text (in persona 3 reload as well) just to have it fit their narrative and to own the chuds. play persona 4 and smt 4 for peak atlus.

>>716477943 (OP)
Incredible game and fantastic world building
Ultimately, Louis' motivation ended up being uninteresting. He was close to having a believable point, but then the game goes full "Muhaahah I am... EVIL AND CRAZY" at the end. I fucking love how cool and imposing he was throughout the whole game.

The final stretch with approaching Louis is also pretty bad. All the characters devolve into mouthpieces for the narrative to talk about friendship, and the whole "Yeah I had these issues, but then I went on a journey and I changed as a person." speech is sorta cringe

People say they don't like the combat, but I loved how many ways it could break

>>716478245
i overlooked most flaws the moment i got my waifu handholding scene.

>>716477943 (OP)
No romance.

>>716477943 (OP)
It was somehow forgettable for me. I stopped thinking about it after playing it, I mostly remember what a pain it was to get Royal Thief.

>>716478581
Negative ass. -10 ass. SAD!

>>716477943 (OP)
Like every anime they built everything up really well but couldn't follow through and then flopped the ending (from potential masterpiece to "just okay")
Dungeons were kind of a slog, combat felt like a massive slog if you fucked up and got hit first.

>>716477943 (OP)
No romance, Atlus must understand that people play Persona and Persona related games for the social larping aspect.

>>716478083
>The environment design is extremely low effort
>Dungeons are featureless cave corridors
So the average Atlus

Game was peak mediocrity. Nothing ambitious, nor real vision. Just somewhat competent slop from start to finish. It's already as forgotten as all similar slop before it.

no romance

>>716479032
Maybe? I don't play their games generally
It just stands out as very low budget/effort considering it's a full price game from a well known developer. Obviously the priority for this sort of thing is still the story and gameplay mechanics, not the dungeon environment, but it stuck out to me

Still enjoyed it overall

>>716477943 (OP)
I don't like how the archetype system sort of forces the player into specific decisions, as opposed to letting the player choose freely. Sure I can ignore what the game wants, but then I don't get the ultimate archetype which requires specific archetypes to be mastered. This issue is even worse for characters who join later in the game as they get less points to play around with.

Either drop the class system or don't railroad the players.

>>716477943 (OP)
The combat is genuinely boring yet feels really punishing with the strict MP management, I don not feel fulfilled by killing enemies at all
Calendar system is horseshit and just Atlus refusing to leeave their comfort zone

>>716478385
>>716478581
>>716478946
>>716479136
this

>>716479640
The only Atlus game with decent maps and environment design is Persona 5, so imagine how bad the rest are

>>716477943 (OP)
it leans a little to hard to the left, so I end up disagreeing with a lot of the game has to say about anything. I'm so sick of leftie propaganda if we started rounding them up and killing them like animals I wouldn't even feel bad about it. Fuck diversity and anybody who promotes this cancer. I hope you fucking die an horrible death scum.

>>716477943 (OP)
Garbage Sega of America localization.

>>716477943 (OP)
You gave people the most easily assignment

>>716478245
Honestly wouldn’t a law villain attempting to create a hive mind be a more fitting antagonist for a game with groups of people hating each other, then a chaosfag?

>>716477943 (OP)
No gameplay, they just talk for 60 hours. The little combat that you get is extremely basic, with 0 depth

>>716477943 (OP)
I refuse to play this game because I find the art style unappealing.

>>716477943 (OP)
UI

>>716477943 (OP)
It isn't GOTY Astrobot good.

pozzed goyslop

>>716478190
what kind of mental illness is that
p4 was localized by the same people who did original p3 dirty
it has plenty of fanfics like 2nd person narration too

modern atlus localization is unironically so much better, reload is the main example actually

Everything at and after the opera

>>716477943 (OP)
Loses steam in the endgame + if you don't grind and minmax time management perfectly you're fucked
the archetypes and combat system addition are good but the dungeons are not as interesting as P5's

There are none.

You can't marry the fairy

>Find a flaw

>>716477943 (OP)
I only played it for a couple of hours and the flaws added up so fast I uninstalled it.

It's very childish, the writing is silly, simplistic and predictable. Same with the aesthetics, "how do we make the main character feel unique", "I know we give him different colored eyes, that will make him stand out!", it's just trite.

When I noticed the town activities that increase your stats just repeated like 3 different events that was the last drop for me, I quit and uninstalled, so low effort. Not like those 3 events had any effort put into them at all either, absolutely pathetic.

>>716481492
Diversity is beautiful. But mixing everyone together doesn't create diversity it creates one grey blob. Diversity exists because of separation where different cultures can flourish separately.

>>716487302
>if you don't grind and minmax time management perfectly you're fucked
Metaphor has the easiest time management I've played.
Unless you're doing jack shit for an entire month you will have done every mission and max out all virtues and followers by the time you reach the endgame.
The endgame gives you an entire free month to catch up.

>>716487817
>the town activities
This is the only thing in your post that's actually remotely tangible feedback and it's complete bullshit, they did a much better job with these events in this game compared to persona because they actually build on the setting in some way
talk to a tolerance npc and get some mustari trivia
do an imagination event and get background on a magla creature or a past archetype user
do a wisdom event and get an explanation for something specific to that town like the giant water balls or the gondola ride in brilehaven
go to the opera at the end of the game and see what the church uses as propaganda

I like how they introduce a character who can change the weather, have one more month of game and then it's blight time. Oh and the whole awkward immediate mage college boss fight. And how everyone in the world decides the election is over after the opera house. Like they decided to shave a month and a dungeon off the game probably to sell you Metaphor: REfantazio Royal edition next year.

>>716488335
actually, you still want to feed him fish during that part of the game if you're going to the places with fixed bad weather because they will always be blight instead of dread
rest of this is cope

>Masked Dancers are support archetypes with some magic damage. Summoners are full on magic damage archetypes.
>Give Junah the highest magic stat of any party member and give Eupha jack-of-all-trades stats
I do not comprehend

>>716484263
>how you know SEA hasn't gone to sleep yet: the post

The whole mecha robots in fantasy world is really silly.

>>716488780
>give Eupha jack-of-all-trades stats
On what planet? Eupha has a lower strength stat than Junah does. Can turn her into an ungabunga that edges out Basilio with some str incenses but you need a fuckload of them

>Kill the rich!
*people start killing the rich*
>Noo, not like that!

>>716489043
Yeah, maybe jack-of-all-trades wasn't the correct term.
You know what I mean.

>>716488948
What robots? You mean the Archetypes? Those are suits of armor. The fighter/monk gets a gundam sound effect on one of his special skills but that's more of a joke than anything

This game and Expedition 33 are roughly on the same level and no amount of /v/ shitposting will convince me otherwise. They do have different strengths for sure though. Metaphor is better with its characters and storytelling, expedition 33 is better with its combat and RPG elements.

>>716489154
They look like mecha robots not like suits of armor.

>>716477943 (OP)
>high fantasy setting
>90% of the party are human or visually similar humanoids
The only reason I didn't buy it desu.
Not delusional though I believe it is exactly as good as people say it is.

Boring setting, boring story, boring cast. And despite making the same game for decades Atlus appears to have learned nothing. It's even a straight up step back in many ways.

>>716487562
These threads haven't been about FFschizos for awhile, it's southeast asia that has a vested interest in shitting on this game because they couldn't get it to flop

>create a cum inducing fairy
>can't date her let alone fill her cavity to the brim with thick yellowy loads

>>716489210
They're both really good but I wish both games were harder.

>>716489210
>expedition 33 is better with its combat and RPG elements
I don't really agree whatsoever, E33 is basically everything wrong with Honkai Star Rail + a parry and dodge when it comes to gameplay and the overreliance on passive effects for build variety kills it. Persona and SMT are only just now starting to veer into this territory with SMTVV having the heaviest emphasis on passive effects of them, but Metaphor is a lot more active skill focused and you don't encounter this much or at all until you're setting up the Prince archetype at the very end of the game.

Is it as woke as /v/ claims? I wanna buy it for the elf

>>716489679
it never was woke

>>716480246
They should probably just not have had royal archetypes, or do something different for the requirement

>>716477943 (OP)
Only one?

>>716477943 (OP)
>a flaw
kek

>>716489679
The entire game is about you trying to get people to stop being racist and xenophobic. Yes it's woke. Don't let fatlus piggies tell you otherwise.

>errrrrm ahcxtually the book Utopia

Shut up!

>>716489679
People have completely misunderstood from a handful of out-of-context screenshots

Part of the game involves a big democratic election where candidates fight for public support, you get involved with that and get dragged into conversations about random political shit. Since this election has to include loads of random NPCs who get ejected from the race the game includes a lot of minor characters defined by their own retarded political takes, which tend to be intentionally flawed because you're going to 'beat them' in debates or make them look like idiots in the process of closing in on the actually relevant characters

This isn't like a Western game where every NPC preaches the DEI writer's own political view as the truth. Everyone has their own schtick and loads of those schticks are retarded on purpose

>>716490648
>Everyone has their own schtick and loads of those schticks are retarded on purpose
On a second and third playthrough I think my favorite ended up being Julian's because not only do you get to trash him in a debate but he gives you his fucking book and when you read it with Gallica she's like what the fuck is this you can't just make everyone vegetarians

>>716490648
>People
bugs aren't people

>>716490758
I have unironically seen people take the game's parodies of Western vegan/green party nonsense and post them like they're a philosophy the game is trying to shill to you, instead of a joke

>>716490965
That's because they're only kind of parodies kek

>Antagonist is a blonde-hair blue-eyed handsome tall gigachad Aryan Ubermensch
>his crime is being heckin racist
Yep, Jews made this game

>>716477943 (OP)
The hoverboard sequence where you jump between the wings of that airship thing
The whole airship dungeon was actually pretty retarded. A stealth mission where you enter the front door
2 of the 3 endgame dragons are an unfair slog
There aren't any standout characters

>>716491201
ackshually he campaigns with the same pro-diversity platform as MC

>>716491201
Protag has blonde hair blue eyes too :)

>>716491201
The antagonist is the one pushing for diversity retard

>>716491436
Colorblind anon

>>716477943 (OP)
Overrated

>>716491436
protag is a racially ambigous latinx-looking sissy

>>716478083
all valid points and i agree with all of them.

>>716478245
you didn't "break" thje combat, thats how its intended to be. If anything, an enemy having his turn is a failure scenario.

>>716492227
>an enemy having his turn is a failure scenario
This isn't a healthy state for the combat to be in

>>716477943 (OP)
the main character is fucking ugly and the way he dresses is painful to look at on top

>>716477943 (OP)
>Persona clone
>without romance
For what fucking purpose?

>>716489080
>Kill the rich!
*people start killing the rich*
>YES NOW KILL THEM HARDER
this is what a real revolutionary would say

>>716477943 (OP)
Awful graphics and textures
Ugly costumes
Boring and repetitive enemy designs
Hulkenberg is a plank
Races lack any creativity or lore
Boring characters with no interactions between them
Most of the dungeons are uninspired
Endgame is a walk in the park
Louis looks like a promising villain until you find out he's just retarded
The airship dungeon doesn't make any sense
The anime cutscenes are clunky as hell
No magic academy dungeon
The first dungeon is the best one and everything goes downhill from there
Side dungeons recycle the same assets over and over
The whole true culprit reveal feels rushed
MC has the charisma of a cabbage, despite him having to take the role of a politician
Political takes are pure cowardice and shallow as a puddle
No romance
Being able to use a teleport takes away from the feeling of adventure
Most locations are just a pretty png
The ending is uninspired

>>716477943 (OP)
What the fuck does the title even mean?
A metaphor for what? What is even a "fantazio"? Who are all the faggots on the artwork?
My miniscule burger brain cannot comprehend this information overload. I just want my angry buff guy with a gun back...

>>716492545
I know, I agree with you.

>>716477943 (OP)
The archetypes deflate the power fantasy of a fantasy RPG. It's fine when Persona has you use demons to cast magic because the setting is supposed to be "realistic", but in an actual fantasy setting, I want the characters themselves to do cool shit. And I don't care that they're supposed to be armor, they're still just Personas

>>716477943 (OP)
metapod re: fnaf 5

>>716494693
cut for budget reasons
personas exist so that each individual character doesn't need to have a version of every attacking animation

Reminder

The graphic design in this game is incredible but the low res in game textures let it down badly.

>>716477943 (OP)
My only flaw is that we didnt get to see the Mage Academy, besides that its a great game and one of my favorite JRPGs.

>>716477943 (OP)
The side dungeons are copy pasted trash.

>>716477943 (OP)
>Play JRPG
>The church is le evil and religion is used to control people

>>716477943 (OP)
Its pretty mediocre all around.

So let me get this straight. The prince was a wuss and used the book to fantasize about the world outside and the person he wanted it to be, so the magla around, using those thoughts and feelngs, created Will, right? as a projection of the prince to explore the world and become the person he wanted to be. Like, a metaphor about what the game states at the end "i hope this videogame/fantasy helps you in your real life".
However, does Will/the prince change at the end when he fuses with the prince? does ANYTHING change?
no
NOTHING
He still doesnt talk, he doesnt lead anyone, he doesnt do his anime speech, the party members still are the ones that reply to Louis on everything.
Fuck this shit, man, what a fucking atrocious mismanagment of this.

Imagine this: imagine that when will and the prince fuse, The prince now openly talks. Dialogue options removed. He now speaks like any other character in the world. Now, in social links (considering the options barely matter except getting a negligible amount of magla), you only get the "best option" and it is all said by the prince himself.
Imagine the prince being the one that says that beautiful gallica dialogue when facing Louis: "you dont believe in dreams, you dont believe in everything thats complicated, gradual, and slow", or when Louis asks will what he fights for (or something like dont remember before his last fight), Sthroll no longer butts in and instead is the prince the one that starts the anime speech.

What a PERFECT execution of all the metaphor.
But no.
The prince/Will stay the same. Nothing changes.

Great fucking plot, holy shit. Mediocre shiot

>>716497131
This, the game needed one more major dungeon to round out the world.

>>716497671
>still mad after all this time

Mid story
Lack of enemy variety
The world map blueballs you, I think this one game would have been great if it were open world

>>716497671
>In a world where not controlling people results in the people turning into insanely OP monsters that wreak havoc on the world
>Mantra is literally a play on "close your eyes" to keep people's anxieties in check
Think before you speak.

>>716477943 (OP)
It's not E33, there cannot be a bigger flaw

>>716489080
she was totally flirting in the final conversation wast she?

>>716480715
smt4? o_O

this games is anti chaos so it's bad

>>716497926
I had similar thoughts in another thread
It's insanely safe in both gameplay and story. It's not that I hated it in fact, I still rate it a 8/10, but it's not really part of Atlus must plays.
They could've gone a million different directions with (you/will) and a million different ways with Louis but no they pick the most fucking boring options. lol prince dies before you see him, lol louis couldn't handle the power of humanity (but YOU can because you're special ;3). Here's a cool epic archetype that is final cutscene only. what the fuck man. Like fuck man, sword skateboarding should've been a fucking COOL ass setpiece but no it was tame and lame as fuck to not trigger MUH HIGH FANTASY fuckers. There's like 0 replayability too (I mean granted most Atlus games are pretty single time play too unless you really want to see the different alignments).

>>716477943 (OP)
Using the same battle track for every encounter
It would've been fine if they didn't add the retard chanting

>>716499672
The Fear of God - SMT Strange Journey

>>716499120
Oh yeah.

>>716477943 (OP)
none of the cast really feels like they're friends, it just feels like a bunch of random people working towards a common goal which is fine i guess but just felt kind of "empty" in that regard

>>716499120
Of course, but this is Atlus trash so their social links dont mean anything for the story and obviously every sngle girl likes the protagonist.

God now i got angry because they couldnt even do something with Eupha. You have an entire social links where they both bond up at the end, suggesting that they could become a couple
Do you think something happens in the time skip? of course not, what do you think this is? a good game? Eupha says NOTHING
How about this? if you complete Eupha social link. Eupha says at the end one simple line: "...lets meet up later in our usual spot hehe", suggesting they hooked up but they are still trying to figure out how to handle it

>>716499993
omg shut up with this complaint, anyone tired of this meme?

>>716499993
The problem is they had no chemistry or charisma.

>>716489679
No, it explores themes of tribalism and discrimination but it isn’t written to be propaganda like a western game is.

>>716489679
it's socially progressive but many leftists still hate it because it says that full out communism doesn't (the game leans socdem) so make of that what you will

>>716477943 (OP)
Can't fuck any of the girls.

dungeon were better in persona 5
no romance and can't invite social links to movies etc aka less content than p5
npc's side quests are boring
i hate class systems because at the end you will be only using overpowered shit (prince class,,,)... same happened to xenoblade 3 (classes) vs xenoblade 2 (characters system)

>>716497671
It makes a lot more sense when you consider how influential the Unification Church is in Japan

>>716477943 (OP)
Making it possible for me to over-level to the point where every enemy can be bopped on the overworld without having to go into turn based combat led me to grind an obscene amount, which is fine except it made the game too easy as a consequence. Level shouldn't be what causes enemies to turn blue, it should be defeating an enemy without taking damage 5 times or something.

>>716489679
Nah, just generic 90's we will defeat you with power of friendship

>>716478083
You aren't really required to farm mana in the dungeon unless you want to do them in one day. And there is plenty of leeway time in the calendar to take 2-3 days for a dungeon.

>>716503373
>there is plenty of leeway time in the calendar to take 2-3 days for a dungeon.
You do not know this on a first playthrough and the calendar system is explicitly designed to make you care about minmax'ing your days. It's a terrible design to have calendar gameplay which wants you to minmax your time and then dungeon gameplay which pushes you to do something incredibly dull and repetitive because doing so is rewarded by the calendar system

>>716477943 (OP)
Here is your flaw this isnt canon though...