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Anonymous No.716493060 [Report] >>716493152 >>716493893 >>716494841 >>716495741 >>716496037 >>716497057 >>716499970 >>716500218 >>716500420 >>716501061 >>716505746 >>716523425 >>716524485 >>716528794 >>716529518 >>716535026
I don't understand anything about Stellar Blade's story. I'm at the end of the game. If Orcal is the first of the alpha Naytiba, then why doesn't he recognize Adam who is the just the fucking creator and ancestral Naytiba.
Anonymous No.716493152 [Report] >>716493478
>>716493060 (OP)
They're in cahoots what are you talking about?
Anonymous No.716493478 [Report] >>716500227
>>716493152
Yeah, I don't understand the story. So basically Orcal has been supporting Adam's plan from the beginning then. I thought Orcal was working for Mother Sphere at first.
Anonymous No.716493624 [Report]
ShiftUp didn't give a fuck about the story either
Anonymous No.716493893 [Report] >>716494010 >>716520730
>>716493060 (OP)
I don't get what Adam's end goal is. He fuses with Eve, and then what? Eve is now supposed to be some kind of super mix of Naytiba genes and Andro-Eidos technology, but how is that going to save humanity.
Is she going to grow a futa cock and start impregnating women?
Anonymous No.716494010 [Report] >>716494323
>>716493893
No. She becomes a Breeding Sow for Naytibas
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Anonymous No.716494323 [Report] >>716494396
>>716494010
For Lily and Kaya.
Anonymous No.716494396 [Report] >>716494567
>>716494323
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>>716494396
Didn't ask you .
Anonymous No.716494841 [Report] >>716495197
>>716493060 (OP)
>then why doesn't he recognize Adam
Where exactly do you get that he doesn't recognize Adam? They're literally working together towards the same purpose.
Anonymous No.716495148 [Report]
grim
Anonymous No.716495197 [Report] >>716495421
>>716494841
I don't know. He is the leader of Xion and helps the android community in Xion. Lily and Eve are surprised by the outcome when they learn who Adam is.
Anonymous No.716495421 [Report] >>716496540
>>716495197
Well yeah no shit they're surprised, how are Eve and Lily supposed to know? Eve just landed not long ago and even Lily has only been on Earth for a few years, which she mostly spent in isolation and only arrived in Xion together with Eve herself.
Anonymous No.716495741 [Report] >>716496540
>>716493060 (OP)
>why doesn't he recognize Adam
He does know Adam. They are working together. There is nothing in the story that suggests what you are saying.
Anonymous No.716496037 [Report]
>>716493060 (OP)
There is no story, only gooner anime t&a
Anonymous No.716496540 [Report] >>716497818 >>716497884
>>716495741
>>716495421
So what's Adam and Orcal's purpose in sending Eve to kill Alpha Naytibas and retrieve their core? Eve is a fucking soldier working for Mother Sphere, Adam's enemy.
Anonymous No.716497057 [Report] >>716499684
>>716493060 (OP)
Because ASS
Anonymous No.716497818 [Report] >>716497884 >>716503083
>>716496540
Well Adam is obviously betting on being able to convince Eve to come to his side once all of Mother Sphere's lies and the truth of history are revealed to her, which Eve may or may not do depending on which ending you choose. Adam (Raphael Marks) seems to just have been a guy who wanted to push humanity to greater prosperity, but obviously fucked up really badly, first with Mother Sphere turning into a typical killer AI and then again with most of the Naytibas turning into savage monsters rather than much stronger, evolved humans.

What he wants to get with the Alphas is exactly that - much stronger, evolved humans who do not lose their capacity for reason. The Alphas are all failures, for one reason or another. Most of 'em you can plainly see that they're just monsters. Eve is the first proper success, since she's fully able to keep her reason and personality while still becoming far stronger in a physical sense.

Mother Sphere's purpose isn't really fundamentally different. She was still made to ensure humanity's survival and prosperity but it seems Adam kinda made her wrong because she doesn't value real humans in any way, and as such decides her best way of ensuring humanity thrives is to simply replace real human individuals with superior androids. Mother Sphere is seeking a version of humanity which is strong, especially after the Naytiba proved themselves far stronger than her regular androids, which is why Adam's idea of fusing androids with Naytiba and his first success in doing so with Eve isn't exactly against Mother Sphere's interests either.
Anonymous No.716497884 [Report]
>>716496540
Testing her to see if she ends up crazy like Raven, Shiftup should have had an extra ending where she does end up like Raven if you dont bother interacting with and doing side quests for Xion.
>>716497818
This
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>>716497057
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Anonymous No.716499970 [Report] >>716500106
>>716493060 (OP)
I'm amazed by the amount of people that do not understand such a simplistic and basic story. The world have truly gone full retard.
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>>716499970
Sup my g
Anonymous No.716500218 [Report] >>716501584 >>716501923
>>716493060 (OP)
Why are you even paying attention to the story? The localization sucks and the voice actors literally sound like AI except maybe Lily

Just skip the cutscenes and play for the dope combat, music, and t&a
Anonymous No.716500227 [Report]
>>716493478
no, not from the beginning, orcal himself said that he slaughtered countless andro-eidos in the beginning. he simply survived long enough, along with adam, to realize that the only way to truly live on is to transcend their current existence.
Anonymous No.716500420 [Report]
>>716493060 (OP)
>mindless alpha naytiba becomes first hybrid with fully formed consciousness
gee I dunno
Anonymous No.716501061 [Report]
>>716493060 (OP)
adam's wingman tryna get him some of that plap action
Anonymous No.716501584 [Report] >>716506834
>>716500218
Useless comment because you're probably only talking about the English version, and the game is dubbed in many languages that sound different from English
Anonymous No.716501923 [Report] >>716506834
>>716500218
>The localization sucks
The localization sucks because there are translation errors everywhere. If you play it in gookish it makes more sense. Or just read the data bank entries afterwards I guess.
Anonymous No.716503083 [Report] >>716504114 >>716505434
>>716497818
I read, I saw, I understood better, thanks BUT there's still something that needs explaining.
If the job of Mother Sphere's soldiers (EVE protocol) is to go to Earth to kill the Naytibas and find the ancestral Naytiba, then why doesn't anything happen when Eve and Lily hang out with Adam?
Because if Mother Sphere is an AI that took control of everything and created the androids, she should have the power to see everything that happens through the androids (so Eve, Tachy, Lily, even the fucking fisherman at the oasis)
Anonymous No.716504114 [Report] >>716504936
>>716503083
>EVE protocol
EVE protocol's purpose is to make EVE merge with Adam
if you do the bad ending where you kill all the naytibas, MS doesn't say the EVE protocol is concluded
Adam's data bank page updates with the explanation that he created mother sphere and the naytibas, and the ending sequence shows that his plan was to merge them
Anonymous No.716504936 [Report] >>716505272
>>716504114
So Adam wants to merge with Eve and Mother Sphere (the ennemy) wants one of her androids to merge with Adam? What?
Anonymous No.716505272 [Report] >>716505660 >>716507426
>>716504936
Adam created mother sphere and tasked her with the EVE protocol
They were working together
Anonymous No.716505434 [Report] >>716506884
>>716503083
Mother Sphere completely lost control of the Earth when the Naytibas were released from the labs. The androids were completely overwhelmed, then they tried a mostly-botched evacuation to the Colony which not only left plenty of them behind but also ultimately resulted in the Naytibas themselves going up the elevators to infect the Colony. In order to prevent this worst-case scenario Mother Sphere broke off the connection and jettisoned like 30 Colony habitat modules from the area and sent them crashing down to Earth, which rekt the planet.

Then on top of the only remaining orbital elevator, the huge Alpha you fight in the game made its roost and this Alpha then also started jamming communications from the Colony to the surface. So Mother Sphere doesn't do shit because she has no link to or hold on the surface at all anymore. The comms to the surface come back online only when both the Alpha on the elevator and Adam are gone.
Anonymous No.716505660 [Report] >>716506649 >>716511651
>>716505272
If Eve merges with Adam, Mother Sphere is disappointed and sends android soldiers to defeat the new Eve.
Anonymous No.716505746 [Report]
>>716493060 (OP)
What do you mean the game actually have a plot anon?!
Anonymous No.716506649 [Report]
>>716505660
>If Eve merges with Adam, Mother Sphere is disappointed
Yeah because her father is gone.
>sends android soldiers to defeat the new Eve.
After the fight with the robot she'd realize that those toy soldiers wouldn't have any hopes of beating her. If she wanted to actually kill EVE she'd just drop some more of the space modules down and crush everything.
Anonymous No.716506705 [Report]
>can choose literally any form
>choose to be a ten year old girl
Anonymous No.716506834 [Report] >>716514957
>>716501923
>>716501584
I don't speak Korean tho
Anonymous No.716506884 [Report] >>716521142
>>716505434
>Then on top of the only remaining orbital elevator, the huge Alpha you fight in the game made its roost and this Alpha then also started jamming communications from the Colony to the surface.

So that would explain why directly after this fight in the space Mother Sphere is able to send combat ships to Eve's position.
Anonymous No.716507426 [Report] >>716508065
>>716505272
That really doesn't make any sense
Anonymous No.716507930 [Report] >>716508335 >>716508760 >>716511651
If she fused with Adam isnt she a Man now ?
Anonymous No.716508065 [Report] >>716511651 >>716527846
>>716507426
Why wouldn't that make sense? All the little lore drops in memory sticks and shit all support that.
Anonymous No.716508335 [Report] >>716508556 >>716509496
>>716507930
No, she was an android without organic pussy and everything. But now thanks to Adam she has a real human pussy and has the ability to drink alcohol. It says that the fusion kept Eve's gender and thanks to Adam being human, she will enjoy the human pleasures of life.
Anonymous No.716508556 [Report] >>716508652 >>716522337
>>716508335
naw brother, that's gay.
Anonymous No.716508652 [Report] >>716508736
>>716508556
Eve having a pussy is gay? You're a faggot.
Anonymous No.716508736 [Report]
>>716508652
She combined with a man. That's a bussy
Anonymous No.716508760 [Report] >>716521974
>>716507930
She is so cute btw holy shit
Anonymous No.716509496 [Report] >>716509731 >>716509861 >>716511651 >>716511887
>>716508335
I'm pretty sure Andro-Eidos have reproductive organs, we see children in Xion that clearly aren't old enough to have come from the colony.
Anonymous No.716509731 [Report]
>>716509496
Mother sphere made them that way, she's a weird orb, don't worry about it.
Anonymous No.716509825 [Report]
It's been an entire year and still haven't found an answer if the Adam-Eve hybrid is a futa.
Anonymous No.716509861 [Report]
>>716509496
Impossible. Additionally, Lily and Eve are amazed at the end of the game when they are in the cave of the ancestral Naytiba and see life developing naturally.
Anonymous No.716511651 [Report] >>716512063 >>716514086
>>716505660
Pretty sure those were just a sort of test drive for the new model of human. Eve beating all of them just proves that the hybrid model human is far superior to what MS was able to make by herself.

>>716507930
Sure as shit didn't look like one to me. She just got weird feet, which Adam didn't even have.

>>716508065
It doesn't make sense because that implies that Adam wanted to make androids and then to have them genocide his own kind, including him, then after that join the literal underground resistance to make Naytibas. Doesn't make sense. Mother Sphere did things he didn't expect or intend and the Naytibas ended up fucked and savage because they didn't have the time to do the work properly since MS figured out where they were.

>>716509496
I don't think they do, IIRC there was a conversation in the game where Eve complains about swimming, then when Adam asks her why she says something about it reminding her of waking up in some tube when she was "born."
Anonymous No.716511887 [Report] >>716521784
>>716509496
Maannnn, they're just fucking robots. They're just more advanced iPhones that Mother Sphere can create in her automated factories whenever she wants.
When did you think robots could reproduce? You see Raven is just made of metal when Eve destroyed her.
Even Adam says that Eve is 0% human, that she's just a robot.
Anonymous No.716511902 [Report]
The twist is extreme cringe, it feels like Yoko Taro/Nier fanfic
Anonymous No.716512063 [Report] >>716512421 >>716512554
>>716511651
Eve is a super-enhanced android built for combat, but the average Andro-Eidos is just a normal human with an artificial heart and a chip installed I think.
Unless there is something fucky going on and everyone in Xion is actually hundreds of years old, including the children.
Anonymous No.716512421 [Report]
>>716512063
True. Lily told Eve she was jealous of her high-performance body.
And the guy thinks a robot can grow like a human child lol
They were all created in factories.
Anonymous No.716512554 [Report] >>716512948
>>716512063
She's enhanced for combat, sure, but she's not something fundamentally different from all the other Andro-Eidos. There's even a quest where some punks backstab her in Xion to steal her parts. They're all the same thing, just not elite combat-grade top-quality parts.
Anonymous No.716512948 [Report] >>716513150
>>716512554
Doesn't explain how young people like Kaya exist. Mother Sphere abandoned Earth after the Naytibas overran the place hundreds if not a thousand years ago, so who made Kaya, her sister and all the other children in Xion?
Anonymous No.716513150 [Report] >>716513225 >>716517180
>>716512948
Children robots exist. Kaya 100 years later = same fucking Kaya
Anonymous No.716513225 [Report] >>716513592 >>716521568
>>716513150
But they believe they are humans. Wouldn't they figure out that something is fucked if they never age?
Anonymous No.716513592 [Report] >>716517180
>>716513225
Because Mother Sphere lied. She killed all humans (except Adam) and said that humanity is non-organic. It's stated early in the game in a side mission when Eve returns to the Archives. It says humanity was organic, and Lily is very surprised.
Basically, the fucking androids you see in Xion think they're human even though they can breathe underwater or survive in space.
Anonymous No.716514086 [Report] >>716517180
>>716511651
>It doesn't make sense because that implies that Adam wanted to make androids and then to have them genocide his own kind
You had Eidos company (which Adam/Raphael Marks owned), and Tetrastar and Orca. If those other two weren't under Adam's control, then it would be very beneficial for him if Mother Sphere just killed everyone off and forced the remaining humans into Adam's underground experimentation buildings. Adam created Raffy (the underground AI that was making the naytibas) and from the logs you can tell that he was pushing Raffy to make everyone into Naytibas even though Raffy was worried about them completely losing their humanity.
That's also why Adam was talking about atoning for his sins, he killed everyone except himself in order to create a successor to humanity (the strongest naytiba and the strongest andro-eidos merged).
Anonymous No.716514957 [Report] >>716515836 >>716528767
>>716506834
But you do know how to read, right?
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>>716514957
Not korean, no.
Anonymous No.716516115 [Report] >>716516687 >>716521648
Don't let all this lore talk distract you from the fact that there or no normal humans for Eve to mate with. You just know.
Anonymous No.716516687 [Report]
>>716516115
She's a hermaphrodite. Gross.
Anonymous No.716517180 [Report] >>716517560
>>716513150
They don't know what an actual human is. Mother Sphere mind raped them all to forget real history (they were all networked), they don't even know that real, biological humanity ever existed. For all they'd know, that would be entirely normal for humanity.

>>716513592
>She killed all humans (except Adam)
Nah, a bunch more escaped to Altess and Abyss Levoire, not literally just Adam. Also keyword 'escaped' here, when she found out where they were MS sent her death squads to finish the job.

>>716514086
That's not what happened. There's a newspaper article in the game saying something along the lines of Mother Sphere potentially being out of control because she built her own AI (the Andro-Eidos). Wouldn't make sense anyway, if Adam wanted to destroy his competitors he would've just sent his androids to do that, he wouldn't genocide the entire species. That's fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.716517560 [Report] >>716517849 >>716517851
>>716517180
>the people who are getting killed by an AI say that the AI is out of control
No way!
Ok genius, if Mother Sphere wanted to just fucking kill everyone then why didn't she just drop more of those space colonies on the planet? In the Return to Colony ending it's pretty clear that she could just completely annihilate the entire planet if she wanted to kill the naytibas.
Anonymous No.716517626 [Report] >>716522179
>tfw you don't know what's going on in a game so you just ignore all evidence and make up a fanfiction
Anonymous No.716517849 [Report] >>716518194
>>716517560
>the people who are getting killed by an AI
It was before the war started, retard-kun.
>then why didn't she just drop more of those space colonies on the planet
Because her own fucking androids took over after genociding the actual humans. She only dropped part of the colony because the surface was completely lost and Naytibas were using the elevator to get to space as well. The human genocide war happened BEFORE any Naytiba existed.
Anonymous No.716517851 [Report]
>>716517560
>then why didn't she just drop more of those space colonies on the planet
pretty sure she did that once
Anonymous No.716518194 [Report] >>716519290
>>716517849
>Because her own fucking androids took over after genociding the actual humans
Meanwhile there are naytibas all over the place. She clearly doesn't give a fuck about the androids on the surface, she could have just wiped out the planet by dropping more of the modules.
>The human genocide war happened BEFORE any Naytiba existed
Again, to get rid of any potential resistance to Adam and to drive the remainng humans underground so they could be forced into becoming naytibas.
Anonymous No.716518670 [Report] >>716519290 >>716519443 >>716522776 >>716523290
So was the translation for the English subtitles just bad? I know the story had a lot of moments that felt poorly conveyed. Stuff like Lily being stuck in the pod makes it seem like she's been there for years, but then her section about where she is hiding out just kind of comes out of nowhere. Also the fact that no one really brings up the whole "We're humans but are pretty much machines" until one of Raven's legacies comes off as pretty jarring or maybe I'm just retarded.
Anonymous No.716519290 [Report] >>716519820 >>716521814
>>716518194
>Meanwhile there are naytibas all over the place.
No there aren't. There are no Naytibas when Mother Sphere turns on the real humans. Not a single one.
>she could have just wiped out the planet
???
But why? It's extremely clear she wants to take back control, she literally sends her agents out with explicit orders to kill the enemy leader, not to apocalypse the whole planet.
>to get rid of any potential resistance to Adam
Once again the game actually tells you Mother Sphere went off the rails, Adam didn't tell her to genocide humanity.

>>716518670
>Stuff like Lily being stuck in the pod makes it seem like she's been there for years
Yeah that part was fucked, I don't know whether it's a translation problem or not.
>Also the fact that no one really brings up the whole "We're humans but are pretty much machines"
This on the other hand is a plot point which is explained. Mother Sphere went to war to eliminate most humans and won, the few who remained went into hiding underground. After that Mother Sphere mindraped her own androids and replaced their memories with lies. They literally don't know biological humans ever existed, they believe humanity was always like themselves and that Mother Sphere is their god, not some AI a biological dude made.
Anonymous No.716519443 [Report]
>>716518670
>Also the fact that no one really brings up the whole "We're humans but are pretty much machines" until one of Raven's legacies comes off as pretty jarring or maybe I'm just retarded.
nobody even realized there was a war between the humans and the robots, everyone just thinks they're human
>So was the translation for the English subtitles just bad? I know the story had a lot of moments that felt poorly conveyed. Stuff like Lily being stuck in the pod makes it seem like she's been there for years,
there are a lot of ambiguous translations, like the first time you find a robot it conveys a completely different meaning than the original text has
Anonymous No.716519820 [Report] >>716520912
>>716519290
>No there aren't. There are no Naytibas when Mother Sphere turns on the real humans. Not a single one.
Retard, why the fuck doesn't she just drop the modules down now that there are naytibas? There are clearly enough fucking space structures available to wipe out everything on the planet.
>It's extremely clear she wants to take back control, she literally sends her agents out with explicit orders to kill the enemy leader
Really? Because she doens't even tell them who their target is, or really anything about the planet. You would think that if she actually wanted to kill naytibas she would destroy that space elevator so she could just get the network back and send her providence robots down to kill any naytibas.
>the game actually tells you Mother Sphere went off the rails
Yes the fucking androids on the planet who aren't even aware that they're not human think that mother sphere is out to get them.
Anonymous No.716519912 [Report]
I finished this game the other day, and I want to say it does a good job of having a good last stretch of bosses. I found every boss from Spire 4 onward to be the best of the bunch, which is nice since a lot of Souls-like games (with exceptions) tend to teeter out on their end bosses that aren't DLC. Also, the exclusive bosses in the Boss Rush mode are very good too, glad they gave that one character justice in their fight. Boss Rush or Challenge mode should be a genre standard.
Anonymous No.716520293 [Report]
Raven>tachy>>>>eve
I don't care about the lame dbz fusion functionality, adam picked the worst girl
Anonymous No.716520730 [Report]
>>716493893
>I don't get what Adam's end goal is.

1. To create a new beginning for humanity, because Andro-Eidos are not human in Adam's eyes since they do not possess any human DNA and because humanity corrupted itself into mostly the mostly violent and mindless beasts that are the Naytiba.

2. To gain absolution for himself for having created Mother Sphere, who created Andro-Eidos and went to war with humanity, and for turning humanity into the Naytiba.
Anonymous No.716520814 [Report] >>716521252
So is the sequel gonna be a war against Mother Sphere?
Anonymous No.716520912 [Report] >>716522236
>>716519820
>the fucking androids on the planet
Man, you're extremely stupid so I'm not even going to bother.
Anonymous No.716521142 [Report]
>>716506884
Not directly after the fight at the top of Spire 4. The best you can say is directly after Adam is gone. Because after you come down from Spire 4, you can spend time wandering around the different zones and nothing much has changed as far as Mother Sphere and her ships are concerned.
Anonymous No.716521252 [Report]
>>716520814
Certainly. Main question is will it be Eve merged with Adam or another character? Why? Because in the end you see Eve has become like Superman. So the progression of powers will be limited.
Maybe Mother Sphere created some super androids that haven't been seen yet, that could be the case.
Anonymous No.716521568 [Report]
>>716513225
Early in the game, in the Hall of Records, the recording says humanity evolved itself through technology. Basically, they become cyborgs. Later, Lily mentions that humans to her are a combination of technology and flesh. They think they're human because Andro-Eidos have been taught they are human.
Anonymous No.716521648 [Report]
>>716516115
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>>716511887
I'd a robot.
Anonymous No.716521814 [Report]
>>716519290
>I don't know whether it's a translation problem or not
It's actually addressed in the dialog between Lily, Adam and Eve right after that but because they so quickly gloss over her talking about her being "in isolation" it sounds like she was talking about being in that pod the whole time when she was talking about Secret Garden
Anonymous No.716521974 [Report]
>>716508760
even cuter with mods
Anonymous No.716522179 [Report]
>>716517626
That's what I did when I was a kid reading Dragon Ball manga in a language I couldn't understan. Then one day I looked at the translated version of it and man, I wish I hadn't.
Anonymous No.716522236 [Report] >>716522654
>>716520912
>uhm the game says that mother sphere went crazy, but I won't provide a source because you're stupid and therefore I win!
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.716522337 [Report]
>>716508556
Don't read the Bible especially Adam and Eve story (stellar blade is a bit of a modern version if you didn't get it..) Eve is just a fucking extension of Adam basically
Anonymous No.716522654 [Report] >>716522958
>>716522236
Not that guy but would YOU mind providing evidence for ANY of your claims?
Anonymous No.716522776 [Report] >>716523287
>>716518670
The Lily part was bad. Probably had the lines all recorded with an extended cutscene that got edited down, but they didn't have time to rerecord the lines to make more sense in the post-edit sequence. Because if they did rerecord the lines, it wouldn't just be for one language, but for 8.

It's kind of like that scene in The Dark Knight Rises. People speculated that the scene was edited out of order and that's why it seemed odd. I don't know if there was ever a reason why it was sequenced that way.

As for the machines thing, Lily says at one point that she thinks of humans as part machine. The game hints at "humans" like EVE and Lily not being humans as we, the players, would understand them to be. So, you should've figured that out early on, before the characters did. It's the "twist" that people saw coming that didn't land very well. But that's a minor issue imo since it's less about whether they are human and what you define as human.

Because if you think the Naytiba are human because they posses human DNA, even though they've become monstrous in form and function, that's hard to swallow. On the other hand, EVE and Lily and the Andro-Eidos exhibit all the qualities of humanity, both good and bad, even though they lack any human DNA. So, which one is more human is probably the better question.

Of course, if you just played through the game once, only bothered with the voiced cutscenes and ignored most of the memory sticks and documents and other text-based lore scattered about the game, I can see your dissatisfaction with the narrative experience of Stellar Blade. It's less a movie game in that sense, because if you want a full understanding of the story, you need to work to get it.
Anonymous No.716522958 [Report]
>>716522654
99% of them are in the data entry for Adam after you beat the game. I'd need to set my PS5 up to get a screenshot, but it says he's Raphael Marks and that he created Mother Sphere and the Naytibas.
Mother Sphere's entry also says that everything was planned by her, so if someone is going to be fucking retarded and claim that she didn't fucking realize that her shitty airborn troops wouldn't be able to kill the Naytibas then they're just being fucking braindead.
Anonymous No.716523172 [Report] >>716523367 >>716524197
Who should be the protagonist for the sequel, and why is it Raven?
Anonymous No.716523287 [Report] >>716523369 >>716524781
>>716522776
From my point of view, the Naytibas (humans who have accepted genetic modifications) are more human. Even the Naytibas who no longer have anything human (because the Naytibas can develop according to their environment, hence the fact that we can see Naytibas machines or even Naytibas who no longer have anything human.)
Why? Because these fucking androids are actually just robots with artificial intelligence, created by an AI (Mother Sphere). AI created by real humans, so even Mother Sphere actually acts like a human a little bit because it's in her nature.
So basically I'll always be on the side of natural life over fucking machines.
Anonymous No.716523290 [Report]
>>716518670
IIRC the Lily part is properly explained in a lore text piece that you get right after rescuing.
Anonymous No.716523367 [Report]
>>716523172
If Eve is too Op, Raven will be the main protagonist. Many think like that
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>>716523287
From my point of view, the Naytibas are evil.
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>>716493060 (OP)
I don't think anyone plays it for the story
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>>716523425
Speak for yourself.
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>>716523369
You're just spitting on your own species (human, true humanity) who want to survive against an AI that decided to kill us all because we were too weak.
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>>716524040
I was just memeing but I forgot to add the Anakin image in my initial post.
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>>716523172
If they want Eve to be the protag against, I can easily see them do a Samus-esque plot of her losing her powers at the beginning of the game (lol Mother Sphere shenanigans) and she slowly regains her Naytiba-fuse powers while gaining new ones.
Raven could definitely be a protag for the new game or at least have a shared role. They kept her alive for a reason.
Crazier idea, 3 protags: Eve, Raven, new character that's a new generation of Android that Mother Sphere cooks up from the Eve Protocol data.
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>>716524197
I think having Eve and Raven be the two main characters would be the move. Seeing both their perspectives, Raven slowly building up towards redemption and them either crossing swords again at the end (with the player being able to pick the perspective) or working together towards a common goal (maybe being able to switch characters mid-gameplay because both of them are a party now).
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>>716493060 (OP)
Adam created mother sphere, mother sphere created android eidos, mother sphere declares war on humanity, humans (led by adam) turn into naytibas to survive the impending extinction. thousands of years later EVE is sent to earth to neutralize adam, the true ending is where adam offers himself to restores humanity. This works because ando eidos have all the qualities of humans but can't reproduce or grow without mother sphere's influence, and the naytibas have lost their humanity. combining these two races will help restore civilization
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>>716524197
>new character that's a new generation of Android that Mother Sphere cooks up from the Eve Protocol data.
You're weak.
Second Tachy model from a new airborne division. Her final upgrade is getting the dusted memorystick back from space, and relearning Tachyon's old fighting style.
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>>716524389
If they keep the open world gameplay, it pretty much has to be Raven. But you can have an early Bad End fight where you play as Eve and put down an evil Raven. Like the Shura ending in Sekiro, but if you played as Isshin.
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>>716523287
>So basically I'll always be on the side of natural life over fucking machines.
Let's explore this idea. Are we sure that natural life is actually natural?

>Arthur C. Clarke famously stated, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic," often referred to as his Third Law.

If technology developed to the point that it could create life, planets, solar systems, universes, and none of the inhabitants, life, or anything in existence born from those creations would ever know of it, would it matter that they're artificial? Would it matter to them?

Because nature is effectively random as far as we know. How the universe came about, how life came about, how sentience came about, etc. None of it is directed. It's all a matter of organizing processes due to the systems built into the universe. Eventually, at the heat death of the universe, all organization ends. All entropy ends. The goal of existence is static non-existence.

Would it then matter how life comes about if life is best represented by the actions and behaviors of said life rather than how it came about? And if life is best represented by actions and behaviors, and we, as sentient beings with a developed ability to appreciate the morality of actions/behaviors, are able to judge actions/behaviors as either good or evil, then we can do more than judge life based on its bare minimum qualities.

If Hitler is human, but Jesus ends up being a robot, would people rather relate to Hitler because he's human or would they rather lie to themselves and say Jesus is human when he's in fact a robot? I think it's very human to seek out the best from a bad situation even if it means accepting falsehoods in the process.

Which is to say, Adam and the Naytiba may be human, but they're not the humanity I would necessarily want to side with. They've done so much wrong. That said, Mother Sphere has her own problems as well. Perhaps, there is a way forward without taking either side.
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>>716524781
*yawn*
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Speculation on Naytibas in the sequel? I'm guessing they'll still be around. Would love to see them being the more body horror enemies and let the devs take their designs to new lengths. One idea is that new Alpha Naytibas will emerge, possibly gain more sentience, and maybe there will be a plot of them seeking Eve because she's the new Elder essentially. The Colony will be a new enemy faction, and I wouldn't mind them being a more sleek, refined type to contrast with the Naytiba designs.
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>>716525090
seems like it, xion becomes home to the new humans, while rogue alphas and insurgent mother sphere forces close in. we play as raven since eve is too busy protecting home
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>>716525090
>Speculation on Naytibas in the sequel
They won't be present. They'll see how many copies Pragmata sells (before being banned everywhere due to pressure by MasterCard and Visa) and decide to go full scifi. You'll be fighting against gundams and mechs for the entire game as you run around in mother sphere's space station wrecking the place.
At the end of the game, you'll discover that it was all a training regimen by mother sphere to prepare Eve for the true enemy aliens that were coming to wipe out the original humans. That will be Stellar Blade 3. The egg shaped naytiba factories have alien markings on them, because they're using stolen alien technology to create the naytibas.
Anonymous No.716525421 [Report] >>716527423
>>716524781
If we get into advanced philosophical reflections, it's going to be complicated. I can tell you: we are organic beings, unlike Eve, Lily, or Tachy, who have metal bodies and chips that serve as their brains.
My point is, why would a superior being choose to deliberately create us weak? When he can create beings made of metal or whatever, with chips and everything.
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>>716525090
I assume they'll be minor enemies, like how the later part of the first game had more robots (with naytiba parts attached).
Most enemies in 2 will either be Angel variants or more robots.
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>>716524880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdqjtTd8me4
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>>716525421
What makes us human isn't that we're organic. There is a lot of organic life on planet Earth. The most unique thing about humanity is our DNA and our sentience/sapience. The Andro-Eidos lack the former, but they do seem to possess the latter. But if our DNA is all that makes us human, than a fertilized egg would be human. Same would be true of any part of our bodies that still had our DNA but was no longer part of us. So, we need both, which is why Adam asked to merge with EVE.

Yet, that's an admission that humanity as the Naytiba have lost the sentience/spaience of humanity. The ability to be kind, love, forgive, etc. While there are a few examples like Oracle, they're considered failures by Adam while most of the Naytibas are mindless, violent beasts. Humanity, the real humanity, is at a dead end. At least they are without the help of an Andro-Eidos like EVE.

>My point is, why would a superior being choose to deliberately create us weak? When he can create beings made of metal or whatever, with chips and everything.
Now you're thinking like Mother Sphere. She agrees with Adam that Humanity is at a dead end. She seems to have her own plans for the future of Mankind and hers involves metal and silicon. Although her Angels don't seem to start out all that bright, even if they have potential.

If you were instead referring to a creator being or race or technology, we'll never know. We may never even know if we were real or artificial. Does an ant farm realize their entire universe is artificially created to be as pets to another species? Does it matter at the end of the day? If you never knew the truth of things, but still lived a life you felt was worth living, would it matter all that much?
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>>716528008
yo polish schizo
eve is finally arriving
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>>716528109
Yes. I know. All will be pure
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The real Eve is here
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>>716514957
Why would the localization be any better with English subtitles as opposed to the English voice acting? Is it totally different dialogue?
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>>716493060 (OP)
>thinking about the story
You're not supposed to do that, just stop thinking and consume the outfits
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>>716528853
You can't take them all man, raven is mine
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>>716529251
I can, my harem is infinite
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>>716493060 (OP)
You have low IQ if you can't follow the story. Did you skip every cut scene? This ain't remotely hard to follow.
I would understand if you couldn't follow any Kojima's bullshit in Death Stranding.... but Stellar Blade is nowhere near as complicated.
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clean it up, janny
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>>716528794
>consume the outfits
...as in "eat"?
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>>716531367
All I know is that Eve ate in those outfits. She just served face the whole game.
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>>716532406
M4c|ej is Eve's Eternal Husband
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>>716493060 (OP)
Adam made Mother Sphere, and when she started geocoding the human race he realized he fucked up, and turned normal organic humans into Naytiba to try and fight back.

The moral of the story is that you're fucked no matter what you do.