how'd you like The Messenger?

>cloudstep
>rope dart
automatically a good game

>>716526002 (OP)
it peaked during the part where the messenger delivered the message and then it plummeted from there.

2nd half is absolute dogshit

Found out it was made by the same hacks that did that sea of starts bullshit. I dropped that awful game halfway in when I realized it was only going to get worse. No way their other game is any good.

Pretty good. Maybe 7.5/10. Makes Sea of Stars a big disappointment.

>>716526002 (OP)
It was a fun game. The plot got weird as fuck toward the end though

god tier ost and the best controls for a platformer ive ever played
the backtracking was not good but nowhere near enough to sink the greatness of the rest of it. game reeks of effort in every facet start to finish, especially the pixel art, the opposite of so much indie shovelware.
praying to god that they dont try to redeem sea of stars and go back to something like this instead.

>>716526002 (OP)
I like it despite the wasted time backtracking the same rooms multiple times.
The storyline reveal at the end is so random and pointless.

>>716526002 (OP)
Great until the metroidvania part starts, couldn't even be bothered to finish it.

>>716526275
>>716526610
hyperbolic retards

Fantastic game. Shame I didn't enjoy Sea as much.

>>716526635
How am I hyperbolic you dumb nigger?
I just stated a simple fact, it was great but then I dropped it.

Shitroidvania.

>>716526002 (OP)
I liked all of it too bad the prequel was bad

>>716526002 (OP)
it's bad

>>716526002 (OP)
chock full of fun at the beginning, then the amount of fun gets diluted to homeopathic levels as you have to re-thread the same rooms several times each with extremely limited fast travel capabilities.
fun goes up again when you find a completely new area, but at that point you have no new fun toys to play with.

enemy variety also kinda bad.

>>716526002 (OP)
I know nothing about this game aside from the Australian zero punctuation knock-off shitting on the music like 5-6 years ago

First half was great then it turned into an unfun metroidvania with obnoxious break the 4th wall writing and I dropped it then.

Kino

>Make a great game
>Then decide to take a putrid shit right in the middle of it

>>716526002 (OP)
It's good. Not great, just good.

>>716526002 (OP)
I didn't.

This thread made me remove Sea of Stars from my wishlist. I forgot it was made by the same guys.

I thought it was good
Been years since I played it though

>>716526002 (OP)
one of the better games of the generation, along with the blasphemouses

>>716526002 (OP)
It's kind of mediocre and not worth remembering, I don't have much else to say about it

>>716531794
Dumbpire.

>>716526002 (OP)
I liked it a lot. Very good game.

>>716526002 (OP)
It was alright. I would've preferred if it stayed as a straightforward action platformer but I have to admit it did some cute things with the time shift deal

I was astounded by how unfunny the humor was in this game. And it just kept going and going. Holy fuck.

>>716526002 (OP)
I thought it was really fun with amazing music. There was enough new areas to explore in the metroidvania part to keep things fresh.

>>716526002 (OP)
Fun game, but I will never forgive it for baiting me into playing Sea of Stars

>>716526002 (OP)
I didn't like it at all.
I didn't even realise it becomes non-linear later on coz i couldn't get that far (out of boredom).

The trouble with these retro throwback games is they're not as good as the 8/16/32bit games they're trying to imitate. And that wouldn't be as much of a problem if i didn't have a dedicated emulation PC permanently hooked up to a CRT TV via a lossless component transcoder, where i can just play the originals any time i want.

>>716533185
Considering Ninja Gaiden is pure dogshit that doesn't feel like it applies here

>>716526293
>>716526352
>>716526543
>>716529505
>>716533021
>Sea of stars
dang is it that bad? i picked it up for like $15 from some walmart clearance sale but never played it. the trailers sort of made it look like a golden sun knockoff.

I enjoyed the game.
granted the 2nd half wasn't that great compared to the 1st one but I liked what they did with the style change from 8 to 16 bit regarding the music and graphics.

is sea of stars that bad? I still have it wishlisted and I thought it's like Chrono trigger which I also enjoyed
and does it have anything to do with the messenger story wise?

>>716526002 (OP)
I dropped it in the second half when I found no new enemy types in the old areas.

>>716526002 (OP)
I don't recall the details, but I remember the game being really enjoyable and having fun and creative movement. It's worth a look if only for how short it is. >>716532373 hits the nail on the head, though. The constant 4th wall breaks only serve the devs' shitty jokes and drag you out of the experience. If the devs can't take their story seriously, why should I? The shopkeeper's self-aware pseudophilosophical rants about psychology or motivation or some shit are played out and insufferable to sit through, and it's just the main dev speaking through a proxy and ripping shit from a faggy blog or long-winded Reddit post. I'm glad it isn't mandatory to sit through unless you're going for all achievements. Haven't given Sea of Stars a look yet because I don't trust these retards to write a long, text-heavy game like a JRPG, even if a Chrono Trigger inspired game sounds right up my alley.

>>716533725
It mainly thrives off nostalgia pandering.
The Messenger was mainly a gameplay-first experience with shallow and often silly characters, but they weren't the focus so it was fine. The writing didn't improve despite the text-heavy genre shift, so now you get hours of vapid dialogue from characters who have zero personality or short term memory. Character interactions have zero depth, and when someone does something bad there are no feelings of blame, guilt, or remorse, just a couple text boxes of screaming in the moment then everyone moves on to the next thing.
Combat's lock system is kind of interesting, but the game's skill list is almost entirely [element] attack or heal, so it's mostly just keeping resources ready to play Simon Says.
Puzzles are insultingly easy. The first dungeon's Golden Sun vibes bait you into expecting compounding psynergy puzzles after getting not-Move, but you've already seen the game's peak with the first railroaded push block. DLC improves on this, but I don't recommend playing that either.

>>716534014
>does it have anything to do with the messenger story wise?
No. There are just occasional continuity slips left in by the devs to imply SoS takes place way before the events of The Messenger. Both games are standalone experiences.

>>716526002 (OP)
Great game, beat it multiple times