A GAME NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT COMING THROUGH

>>716531934 (OP)
Banjo Tooie more like Pee and Poopie

>>715773886
The biggest problem with the character switching in tooie I think is that the characters while unlocked new abilities, they actually became simpler when seperated, but the level design isnt strong enough to make the deficiencies strong enough.

For example. Without Kazooie. Banjo can hop around in his backpack, and while this is a new interaction to avoid hazards like thorns or something. It doesnt actually add anything but an extra step, because Banjo is going to get to the thorns anyways. He just might have to take another route to do so. But route taking in the games isnt even that interesting or engaging because once youve unlocked all the teleport pads, you can already cheat obstacles banjo alone might not be able to deal with somewhat by teleporting around.

If obstacles while seperated were more like puzzles where you had to creatively utilize ALL or even just some of Banjos moveset to solve a problem then it could have been interesting, instead, youre often just taking another more tedious and no less simple path than the path you would naturally take, except that path feels roundabout.

So the gameplay never justifies that length with any sort of increased challenge or obstacle that engages mechanically or intelligently.

I think the only exception is arguably minigames, but I dont even remember how many minigames were banjo or kazooie exclusive. And besides the minigames in the game suck not only because theyre all variations of "shoot at or collect specific coloured things" but also because of the obnoxious way the reticle works in these games where it snaps back to the middle of the screen if you dont hold it in a certain direction.

What's with the zoomer revisionism targeting Banjo Tooie? I enjoyed it just fine.

I just finished it recently, the beginning is ROUGH to get through but it eventually picks up. It's taking me a while to get all the earworms out of my head.

Kazooie

I have many problems with this game but I still love it.

>>716531934 (OP)
I can't even force myself to finish this pos. I started in january and I'm still on pterrydactyland.

>>716531934 (OP)
you cared enough to post about it though.

>>716531934 (OP)
Youre a faggot I love this game, its just as good as Kazooie

>>716532483
There were A FEW interesting "split up" puzzles but they're pretty weak compared to what you might hope for.

Also by endgame Kazooie Solo is just way more fun to play than anyone else. Because they just turned her into Spyro. So Banjo Tooie is like a long elaborate proof that Spyro 1 is a better game format than Rare's collectathons.

Yes, I do care about this.

Conker’s Bad Fur Day > Banjo Kazooie > Banjo Tooie > Jet Force Gemini > Donkey Kong 64

If you try to leave a world as Banjo only Kazooie gets upset like she's about to cry.
Wholesome
Kino

>>716533331
>There were A FEW interesting "split up" puzzles but they're pretty weak compared to what you might hope for.
Its possible that my memory is just too distant to remember, but Im not sure id even agree.

Some of the most memorable "puzzles" were like realizing in the carnival level, that to beat the strength test I should use the grenade as the final slam.

But when I think of "split" puzzles in that same level. I remember having to use Kazooie to run uo that spiral while barrels or enemies or something roll down for me to jump over, I actually lost quite a bit on that, but thats because Kazooies jump is waaay too convenient so sometimes I overextended. But my point is.

The split felt too artificial, or rather forced. Did I really need to experience such a "challenge" as Kazooie? Something as basic as just jumping? Except slightly higher?

So its either THAT problem with split pads. OR the other problem, is that like I said, its already too obvious what to do.

Oh so I need Banjo's storage pack to pick uo an enemy, wow, so I have to arbitrarily go back to a pad, and then get Banjo back to the thing I need to carry, but through a slightly less convenient and longer path. For what?

The problem was technically already solved literally immediately as I saw that I needed the pack. Theres no problem to solve along the way.

And I say this as somebody who somewhat defends mumbo, because I like the metroidvania esque backtracking design.

But quickly think of Super Metroid. When I come across a roadblock, the game does not make me GO back to get an upgrade then COME back to the roadblock. I first come across the roadblock, then I have to take the only open paths left, which twist and turn and expose me to further roadblocks, that I all have to keep track of mentally.

And then ONCE i get the upgrade. Its a matter of remembering where to go back to, and mapping the game in my head, so that I not only remember to go, but how everything connects to get there.

>>716533629
>Conker’s Bad Fur Day
What makes Conker actually good as a videogame?

>>716531934 (OP)
>GO TO WUMBAS HUT
>GO TO PAD AND OPEN DOOR
>NOW BACK TO PAD
>OKAY NOW BACK TO DOOR
>OKAY NOW SPLIT UP
>IT PLAYS LIKE SHIT BUT YOU HAVE TO SPLIT UP
>NOW BACK TO NOT SPLIT UP
>NOW BACK TO WUMBAS
>NOW KEEP RUNNING FOR HOURS
>IT'S JUST NON STOP RUNNING
>YOU HAVE TO RUN
>THE WORLD IS LARGE AND YOU RUN IN IT
>ICKUM POKUM ICKUM POKUM BOOGA LOO BOOGA LOO

>>716531934 (OP)
I give a shit about it.

Threw this together a few hours ago. I wish they had done this, instead of having the bee, it'd have been really cool. Thoughts?

If the game wants us to fly they can just give us a fly pad, the bee transformation was pointless desu

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MUMBO JUMBO

MUMBO JUMBO

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MUMBO JUMBO

MUMBO JUMBO

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>>716532513
>no microtransactions
>no battlepass
>Game was complete and finished on release

Zoomers wouldn't touch this with a 30 foot pole.

Why did they put ice eggs in their game if they had no intention on ever using them for anything. Fire eggs too actually, they don't do shit

>>716537094
Are you retarded and never played the game? Ice eggs and Fire eggs do get use.

>>716537205
They get like 5 uses each in the whole game, don't be disingenuous

>>716537287
Fire eggs are infinite if you get dragon kazooie

>>716537094
It pissed me off with how limited the use of some things is. Like I can't blow up TNT with bomb or fire eggs? It made some things like getting into Area 51 really hard because by that time I had conditioned myself into thinking elemental eggs were functionally useless for solving puzzles.

>>716531934 (OP)
Sex with Humba Wumba

>>716537287
Thats objectively not true and youre an objective fucking retard. Dont accuse me of being disingenuous when youre literally mentally retarded, kill yourself retard.

Anyway, the ice eggs get extensive use in the under water level, and also has multiple uses in the dinosaur level to clear a path of fire platforms.

As for the fire eggs, I honestly dont remember, but I swear it gets lots of use in the snow level.

Again you should kill yourself for being so confidently retarded.

>>716535178
filtered

>>716537938
Have fun being stupid and incorrect?

>>716537938
You need fire eggs to turn on generators. The game doesn't tell you this though so it's very fucking frustrating.

You CAN melt ice with them but it usually breaks just as easy with a physical attack.