>perfectly adequate english word to describe something that tastes savoury
>NOOOOO! WE HAVE USE THE JAPANESE WORD INSTEAD!

>savory
>savoury

>it describes the flavour of glutamate
>which has no flavour by itself
idungeddit

>>716533285 (OP)
umami is fat lol

British people are so gross and disgusting like brush your teeth bros

Stop putting Us were they don't belong, Bongnigger.

Video games

>>716533285 (OP)
>slop
>kusoge

>>716533285 (OP)
You don't even know the half of it.
The west just adopts Japanese words for Chinese things and now you have shiitake mushrooms and ramen in modern parlance.

>>716533285 (OP)
It's different.

>>716533729
How?

>>716533285 (OP)
i will never undertand why amerifats are this butthurt over people liking or prefering japan over them.
you were the ones that nuked them not the other way around

>>716533693
What's the Japanese word for Tianmen Square though?

>>716533761
It just IS, okay? Ugh baka gaijin-san...

>>716533285 (OP)
don't mess with me
I know empty hand

>>716533809
Nanjing Massacre

>>716533809
Peuru Habaro

>>716533693
Gyoza is the one that annoys the fuck out of me, it's not even a slightly changed dish from jiaozi it's literally the exact same but the jap name is used instead for some reason.

>>716533285 (OP)
Chef here, savoury and umami actually mean different things, savoury that describes pretty much anything non sweet and is more of a broader umbrella term, umami refers to something more specific.

>>716533693
you gotta give them ramen because they're the ones who popularized it with the instant take of it

>>716533983
And english already had a word for that before gyoza iirc "potstickers" which was the direct Chinese translation.

>>716534037
>umami refers to something more specific
> doesn't say what it is
hmmm

>>716534037
>something more specific
can you be more specific?

>>716533809
leddito

>>716534037
>umami refers to something more specific.
I like how you described umami as something specific in the most vague way possible.

>>716533693
And Wakoku has massive holes in their vocabulary that they borrow from the west. The most infamous example being that they don't have a word for the concept of "Love", so they just stole it and stereotypically pronounced it badly to where Love -> Rabu is the result.

>>716534070
The guy who invented instant ramen was also Chinese (Taiwan) though (吳百福) and the bitches did the cultural appropriation to his name and called him Momofuku Ando.

>>716533983
Jap is pretty ready to pronounce, as most letters are pronounced like in Latin.
Unlike Chinese, that language is fucking shit, Impossible to read for everybody and sounds awful.

>>716533285 (OP)
>>716534118
>>716534128
>>716534135
Those are two different words. One is a noun describing the palette sensation of fat and the other is an adjective describing a spiced/salty taste. Quite literally all you needed to do was type the words into google.

>>716533983
Probably because chinese sounds like nails on a chalk board even if you reduce it to a single word.
>jiaozi
Jesus Christ, STFU.

>>716533285 (OP)
all according to keikaku

>>716533285 (OP)
it's homosexual, like calling kiev kyiv
if we're gonna start calling things by the exact name in the language of the country that "invented" it then we're all fucked
and until we do that, i'm not calling savoury tastes as fucking umami
and if another person calls marmite an umami flavour i'm going to lose my fucking mind

>>716534160
>deadnaming Nihon
yikes

>>716533802
I think it's quite telling of their societies, while the rest of the world self critique their own environment, japanese society enhances everything they do no matter how mundane it is while keeping any negative talk to themselves, you can see that in anime.

>food psueds
Culinary trannies

Perchance, I will use whatever words I want, and if it makes you angry then good.

>>716534243
>after I googled it i was able to describe it in the same vague terms
lmao

>>716534217
huh, didn't know that.
history really is written by the victors.

>>716533285 (OP)

>>716534243
bullshit
when the first brit made a savoury pie and didn't even know japanese was a country, they called it a savoury pie
the first person to try lea and perrins or marmite didn't go "ooh, that's umami!" and they never marketed that shit as an additive to stock, soup, stews or sauces by telling you it would give you an umami hit
it was "rich" or "well bodied" or "savoury" or "meaty" etc etc
fuck off

>>716533285 (OP)
>eop troon mad
Lol