Why do people want the Persona games to be in college? College you're already an adult and most of the shit about the games wouldn't work. High school is kino because you're at that transition point between childhood and adulthood and still have responsibilities.

>My sexy time is bad
I always hated this about NPCs. Like do they not realize that MOST teenagers have sex? I don't know why people like pretending that no one thinks about sex until they're 18

>>717091081 (OP)
anal creampie

NPCs are the ones who have sex as teenagers, not Persona players.

It's literally because they want to lust over Ann and Futaba without their brainrotted xitter friends calling them pedophiles

>>717091081 (OP)
It's a very loud minority of western secondaries who can't accept that the games are fundamentally high school wish fulfillment simulators. There's no reason to pay any attention to them.

>most of the shit about the games wouldn't work
and that's why Fagsona was never good

>>717091081 (OP)
Why are americans so obsessed with asses?

>>717091175
Agreed, but online they all pretend that high schoolers shouldn't be having sex. I feel like it's the low-tier normies that make up the bulk of the "persona fandom" online that just say shit to virtue signal.

Imagine a wage slave persona where 80% of your time vanishes without your consent and you'll have like four friends if you're lucky

>>717091081 (OP)
It's not that none of them ever think about sex. It's that you shouldn't be thinking about sex with them. Nor should you be seeking any relationship with them at all. In fact, you shouldn't be interacting with them in the first place. You shouldn't even be in the same room together. Why are you even here? Just go away. Hell, you belong in jail for even considering it. You're a threat to others and society at large. You'd be better off dead.

>>717091207
Why the fuck do people care about this so much? Just jerk off to them in peace like everyone else. It's like they're obviously women but yeah NPCs have to pretend that a woman is still a kid until she's exactly 18, and nowadays it's more like she needs to be 25.

>>717091651
>I feel like it's the low-tier normies that make up the bulk of the "persona fandom" online
At the very least they're the fucking loudest. Doesn't help that a lot of them are just flat out retarded faggots so they give people wwho actually play them get a bad name

Because you can date teenage girls. That’s literally it. This was a non-issue until P5 getting mainstream recognition introduced a significant amount of people (“normies”) to the persona brand, along with a zeitgeist developing that made it socially unacceptable to openly lust after any woman below the age of 21.

The four horsemen of bad Persona 6 ideas:
>college instead of high school
>set in America
>female protagonist option
>LGBT romance

>>717091792
>they give people wwho actually play them get a bad name
I lost my train of thought here after a new post came in

They give the people who actually play these games a bad rep*

Because they dont want to admit that they've grown out of the series and need the devs to conform to them

>>717091675
Has any game tried that? How could you make it fun?

>>717091842
It's the usual suspects every time too. Underage faggots. Specifically "transbians" I almost never see a ftm tranny talk about Persona

>>717091081 (OP)
I personally wanted it because I was in HS when I played P3 and I wanted my personal experience reflected as I moved to college. IDC about the rest of the fans. Next persona should be about a corporate office gig.

>college you're already an adult
LMAO no actual adult will treat you as one until you're at least 25

>>717091842
I would be fine if it took place in an Asian country.

>>717091081 (OP)
I'm 32, man. Would be nice to have a more presently relatable setting. That being said I'm not butthurt about the fact this has happened, the series goes in whicher the devs want and their culture is more interested in the already established settings. Would be nice to have older characters but I'm not really upset about it either.

>>717091081 (OP)
>people
Literal niggers scared of "diddy content"

>>717091168
Makoto is beginning for it

>>717091081 (OP)
>college persona
You can tell its always westerners that support these shitty ideas because in plenty of other cultures, including our own culture 30-40 years ago, being in college meant you were already an adult and your life and outlook would be entirely different. Nowadays 18 year old college kids are still treated as kids, lol. Just look at the amount of:
>YOU'RE 21 AND YOU'RE DATING AN 18 YEAR OLD? CRADLE SNATCHER!!!1
Nowadays being 25 means you're still a kid in the eyes of these people, so they don't see the problems of a coming of age story for a protagonist who is legally an adult.

>>717091081 (OP)
because the highschool trope is overdone

>>717093162
Exactly. Most of the fanbase are adults. If you must do a school setting, do collage ffs!

>>717091949
Fun?

Post Makoto? Sure, if you say so.

>>717091081 (OP)
so reddit can lust after the girls

>>717091081 (OP)
>Why do people want the Persona games to be in college?
Because people are so mind broken about being attracted to adult women under the age of majority.
>Is that an attractive adult woman? But, she cant buy lottery tickets, I am so disgusted with myself.

>>717091428
its a reaction to the growing obesity crisis and the influx of browns

>>717092371
People say this, but I don’t buy it. If you’re in your late 20s to early 30s, how is a cast of 18-22 year olds in a college setting any more relatable than HS students? At your age, I imagine you are significantly different to how you were at 18-22, and your lifestyle of working a full time job and supporting yourself/family is incredibly far removed from being a young college student.

>>717092746

>>717091175
>you're an npc unless you're an incel
kill yourself

>>717091081 (OP)
>College you're already an adult and most of the shit about the games wouldn't work. High school is kino because you're at that transition point between childhood and adulthood and still have responsibilities.
Retard shit, as expected from Pissona fags

>>717095679
Cope, if they weren't NPCs they wouldn't have to resort to swapping fluids for entertainment.

>>717091842
All 4 are going to happen and you know it
Atlus went full pozzed and P4 remake will make it very clear

>>717093162
High School is a setting, not a trope

Nearly finished playing 5R for the first time and holy shit all the party member's second awakening personas are hideous. Ann's has to be the worst in the series.

Almost every single "erm this should've taken place in college" complaint is rooted in insecurity and shame of people who felt attracted to the characters. There isn't a single game or anime where making the characters college age changes it in a meaningful way.

>>717092371
College age characters would never have the free time needed to do all the shit the characters in Persona do.

That's the real reason so many anime protagonists are teenagers, because that's the only age group who'd ever realistically have that much free time. They're independent enough to be able to go on adventures, but not old enough to have their schedules filled with work and other obligations.

>>717096248
>There isn't a single game or anime where making the characters college age changes it in a meaningful way.
Summertime Saga

>>717091081 (OP)
Is Makoto truly an Anal Queen?

>>717091081 (OP)
I dont know i want time travel setting so you can groom the hags that would groom you in the future

>>717091168
We are very lucky that she went to a high school that didn't have any black men present because she's BUILT.

>>717098449
She's got a good butt so I'd say so

>>717091949
It wouldn't even work because most college students in Japan work. You have less free time than you did in high school and are lowkey an adult. A college persona game could only really work in an American or European location.

>>717091842
It's like how the Mafia games all took the bad GTA ideas and then people realized they were all bad ideas. I don't know why these retards don't just make their own Persona-type game with these things.

>>717091842
>all 4 of these are amerimutt ideas
What a fucking surprise.

>>717091949
Cart Life

Honestly, why not just go straight to an office setting? Easy parody of japanese work life - OL waifus, corruption / loyalty motifs, the calendar / time system is pretty much the same as in school, post-work drinks and networking, for the lore you can easily throw in the Kirijo or Nanjo Groups as well. Plenty of concepts to work with.

>>717092371
Honestly as an oldfag myself, my life really hasn't changed that much from when I was 25. Probably doesn't help that I'm still doing fucking studying and don't have a wife and kids so I don't feel like an "adult"

>>717099283
Why parody? Persona is a sincere series.

>>717092746
I like to think that Joker just cuddled with all the girls in the games and is still canonically a virgin.

>>717091842
>>female protagonist option
genuinely, what is the problem with having this option
they pulled it off in p3 fine enough, and you can just not play as her if you dont like it. an exclusively fem protag is a different thing so i understand having a problem with that

>>717091081 (OP)
>MOST female teenagers
FTFY
Male teenagers are definitely in the minority of sex havers.

>>717096248
Rent-A-Girlfriend could only work if the characters are adults in college.

>>717093162
exactly, we should go middle school experience.

>>717091081 (OP)
>College you're already an adult
Calling college kids adults is very generous

>>717091081 (OP)
Nobody pretends nobody has sex prior 18.
> Its against the law to make that sort of game now due to CSAM regulations and bullshit from feminists.
That's really it, but College WOULD make sense depending on rest of the gameplay and story elements. Sure College isn't about discovering yourself, its more about studying for a degree and overcoming personal trials and tribulations, it would be an easy way to tie in bad sides of human personality into a school setting and people fuck the most in College, if you fucked in High School you were known as a town bike in College its just you adulting, that's all.
>>717091428
Brown people. There's no doubt about it, pic related. Europeans and Asians are into big breasts.

>>717091081 (OP)
its just reddit (actual pedos) wanting to have sex with underage girls in game

>>717091081 (OP)
College is when Japanese people have the most time. It'd be cool to stack the school schedule to one or two days and spend the rest doing only shit I want. This mechanic would also let you completely skip subplots you don't care about in repeat playthroughs.

>>717099283
Time. You'd be getting home at 7-9 pm every day. Plus adults don't make new friends and don't meet new people like that so it'd be harder.

>>717091081 (OP)
Teens are cringe

chibi sexo

>>717099482
I don't want them to have that option. I NEED them to have to play as a male character

>>717099590
Nah most male teens have sex with the school slut. Even the "loser" guys I knew all had sex at some point in high school.

>>717099649
They are supposed to be in their 20s but the story is written like they were high schoolers anyway and makes the whole totally-not-a-whore-she-only-does-handholding-and-is-a-puire-maiden make even less sense.

>>717099819
> 18 is under age.
Age of consent laws stops caring about your feelings once a person is off age. I know about a few cases from online where a 16 year old matched with an older guy in a dating app and smashed, he didn't do anything wrong on his end she did by travelling to his location and ending up in a relationship with him yet the laws decided to punish the person who didn't break any law because in his jurisdiction 16 was age of consent legal and she wasn't even pressing charges and wanted to end up with him later and they did. Only feminists think 16 year old is a child without their own personality they just need to be parented better not police adults 24/7.

>>717092746
best girl

People pretending like the hot spring scenes or dumbshit like the ryuji beat up scene or the yosuke camping scenes actively make the game worse and argue against their inclusion are fucking annoying. The thing that most annoys me about it is just how pissy they get over it, and how they cant shut up and just ignore the two minute scene out of a 120 hour game.

>throw a persona livestream on in the background to see peoples reaction to cool stuff
>the second the scenes come up the chat fills with "WORST SCENE IN THE GAME INCOMING" "i hate this game" "pErSoNa iS a GaMe Of ItS TiMe" "I hate anime"
>the scene ends and streamers have to go through an hour long discussion session about how that stuff isnt okay anymore and OMG ITS SOOOOO WEEEIRD THEYRE TEENAGERS!!!!

Every. Single. Fucking. Time.

>>717099331
>so I don't feel like an "adult"
You never do, even with kids and a wife you'll catch yourself wondering what the adult thing to do is.

>>717099779
now overlay this with a birth rate chart. turns out the people breeding like asses more

>>717100789
Its more economical IQ related thing than preference for asses thing faggot. Gay men like asses doesn't mean they breed a lot. AYO!

>>717096248
Me personally, I don't care about the females in Persona games, (basic flat women with annoying anime cliche personalities), but a college setting opens a world of possibilities for a game like Persona; A larger school setting, dormitories, the ability to drive, drink, the M rating making more sense, cliques and groups, more freedom, etc.

>>717100562
>Watching Americans
You brought it upon yourself.

>>717091081 (OP)
Because high school students today are less mature than they've ever been. No attention span, always on their phones and Tiktok, constant Fortnite dances, gen alpha is cooked. Early 20s is the new teens.

>>717091081 (OP)
I just want a change of pace. Every game has the same setting and same characters. It's very repetitive and old. Change it up a little and do something different, even just slightly.

>>717100562
I like fan service but those onsen scenes always annoy me for some reason. But I just skip them instead of making a big deal about it. Like a normal person.

>>717100348
It's a shonen series (i.e. its audience is teenage boys) published in Weekly Shonen Magazine, so that's inevitable

>>717101056
>>717091842

There's no way the anons ITT think this ass is better than the OPs

>>717101176
Same. If I want to watch cartoon girls bathing I'll dedicate some time specifically to that, not play a 120h RPG for the sake of 2 minutes of it
Watching them confess their love for you is more boner inducing anyway

>>717100348
Ironically there are a lot of virgin 18-19 year olds in non-western countries. Once you travel you realize how degenerate we are as a nation.

>>717101307
> T. I like starved underfed women, yes, how could you tell?
Big breasts are always better.

>>717100562
I realized I'm too much of a weirdo outcast for even the LTN streamer audience hence why I hang out here.

>>717091081 (OP)
>do they not realize that MOST teenagers have sex?

not in Japan, mr english teacher sama

>>717101537
Anon I'm not arguing what's better I'm just pointing out anons being retarded, plus her chest is almost flat as a board

>>717091675
>>717091949
Would play like a 4x game where it be impossible to get everything 100% right and you be spending more time with the learning curve than getting done what you actually want.

>>717100562
links to the scenes in question?
i have never played persona

>>717101496
Real shit twin. Last time I played p4g I just listened to the Naoto voice line over and over again for like 15-20 minutes. That's probably not good for my mental health or something but idrgaf at this point.

That's how Japan views aging.

13-19 are your sort of “hero” years. Where you can be the main character out on adventures, having youthful flings, and figuring out who you’re going to be. Once you’re an actual adult in your 20s you’re meant to be established in a profession and starting to act as a senior, sharing experience with the incoming new class of adults. Once you hit 30 all the exploration and character development is behind you as you’ve long since settled into where you’ll be in your career for the majority of it. Your story is over. Except for a couple of later promotions you’ve done what you’re going to do. You’re a background, supporting character now.

An adult character would also realistically never have the free time needed to do all the crap younger protagonists do, because they're supposed to be at work. With kids/teens, the authors can just ignore that detail or have them skip school. For a western example, that's the reason Batman is rich; if he wasn't, he'd never have time to fight crime or be able to afford all his gadgets.

>>717102041
Counter example: Spider-Man isn't rich he's working for his bag while saving the world as a teenager in college or out of college. However adults can have more fun and exploration and character development however if something drastic changes. Yakuza is all about this, you could easily have detective stuff as well that plays into the whole thing. Its just a poor writer that doesn't understand character development. Tetsuya for example is a good adult character growth arc throughout so is something like Kaiji. Its just matter of delivering the plot beats and writing good drama.

>>717091842
God I hate Americans. We just can't stop trying to ruin everything

>>717102041
That 20-25 age range would also work. That's when you think you've got it all figured out, but then life throws shit at you left and right.

>>717102372
An adult character inherently doesn't have as much room for growth or character development as a younger one does.

Teenage characters can grow and change as people over the course of the story. That's what these stories are usually about; they're coming of age stories. You can't do a coming of age story with a character who's already of age.

>>717099482
>genuinely, what is the problem with having this option
They won't put the effort in to make the SLs or romances any different. It'll be the WRPG thing where your character is a dominant chad regardless of gender and everyone falls for them. I already hated having to reject Futaba in P5.

normalfags are disgusting subhumans who have the worst taste and opinions on everything

>>717091751
neo-puritanism has really fucked up nerd communities

their perfect waifu has a 90% chance of being ran through by the whole campus at college ages

>>717102540
That's literally Kiryu's story though.

>>717091842
How do any of these affect you?

>>717091081 (OP)
Because they don't want to be pedophiles for romancing high school students in a video game.

>>717099482
Nips very lazy prease understandaru. It was fine when they did it for Persona 3 and FES but people forget about that.

>>717102041
Hence why some anime protagnoists are NEETs because they still have free time, but they're losers so they have to put them in an Isekai

>>717102785
Kiryu relearns the same message in almost every game thoughbeit

>>717102540
Agreed, people cope by saying you can change who you are forever but really older people don't change like that. Maybe life forces them to change but they don't seek it out.

>>717091842
>college instead of high school
Never going to happen, and has always been a stupid idea. Especially when put forth by people who think the cops are going to break down their doors for fapping to Ann.

>set in America
Never going to happen, but there's plenty of ways to make that idea work. A John Hughes inspired Persona game would be pretty fun.

>female protagonist option
I don't see the issue if it's an option. Still never going to happen because of modern development cycles.

>LGBT romance
The irony of calling this a bad idea while attaching a Yosuke image.

The high school setting is what keeps me from trying out Persona games.
It's OK, I still have a few SMT games I haven't played.
Also, I wouldn't be interested in college setting either. I prefer something like Raidou or Strange Journey.

>>717091081 (OP)
college in the west is high school 2.0 but with way more freedom and time. It's better in every single way except it costs money for most people and all that freedom ruins some

>>717091081 (OP)
i want buttkoto to sit on my face

>>717101504
It's sort of funny because I still remember when japan had a reputation for teens starting to have sex early and being very open about it compared to americans who are more prudish about it and don't like to acknowledge it (euros are also on the more open end as far as I know). Now it seems japanese stopped having sex, or maybe never really did as much as people imagined and late virginity is more common.
Maybe both can be true at the same time, maybe sex havers start early, but if you didn't you will probably wait a long time if ever.

>>717103257
americans are really degenerate but also highly puritan at the same time, they have a strange relationship with sex

>>717102959
And it works every single time. Don't see an issue.

>>717103257
Japan had more sex in 90s and 00s because times were generally good/stress from economic situation and uncertainty now times aren't as good and they are having less sex etc ever since mid 2010s, a lot of the veil has been lifted off of the younger generations and older ones through scandals involving their media corporations, they are pretty cooked about the situation in general.

>college persona
>calendar system blown wide open
>pick/visit any class you like
>can skip classes if you want
>comfy dorm life
Jap students have more time in college than they did in high school. Fucking 3rd year and college exams are the only times they can't be lazy.

>>717091842
>college instead of high school
why would this be a bad thing

so persona usually has you enter a school for one year and then you either fucking die or move back with your parents/old school
does anyone go to college for just a year?

>>717103765
> College stuff:
Monday/Tuesday/Thursday
> Prep Stuff
Wednesday/Friday
> Adventure Stuff
Saturday/Sunday
You could easily make it like so.

>>717102703

Because most nerds aren't religious so they turn to the social norms for guidance.

>>717091081 (OP)
these kids turn 20 before they realize there are games other than minecraft and roblox so when they play games about high schoolers they don't have enough brain power to reconcile with the fact that they're older than the target audience

>>717103257
Japan just has more extremes. There are lots of people that sleep with a different person every night and have a count in the thousands, and there are a LOT of KHHVs

>>717099283
this just wouldn't be persona

>>717091081 (OP)
College is just highschool with more alcohol.

>>717101307
I remember The Matador fight different

>not wanting a Persona game set in Japan's oldest student dormitory

>>717091081 (OP)
>*Smooch*

>>717100562
To be fair the Ryuji beat up scene is jarring for being right after is big emotional moment.

>>717104219
Kids under the age of 20 only know these games 100% now:
> Dark Souls
> Roblox
> Fortnite
> Minecraft
> PUBG
> Overwatch
> Call of Duty
> Battlefield.
GRIM.

>>717099482
P3 pulled it off because P3P was a remake where they added it in with actual effort to encourage women to play. In base game persona 6 they wouldn't design different situations or personalities for the MCs they'd swap the pronouns and that'd be it.

>>717103103
There is no evidence that Yosuke's romance lines aren't related to a scrapped FemMC like P3P had.

>>717104610
kek

>>717091081 (OP)
I still want the HS setting but I'm not entirely opposed to an adult party member. Like pic related having a cool older brother around wouldn't be bad.

>>717091081 (OP)
it's unironically because a large group of people that played persona 5 when they were underage are now over 18 and social conditioning has caused them to be uncomfortable with playing a high schooler that bangs other high schoolers, they probably will barely be satisfied with a college student due to their obsession with even minor age gaps

>>717105416
what did makoto mean by this?

>>717105452
What about an adult actually criminal group Persona game, like a Yakuza/Boozosoku type set in 1980s instead? That would be kino. Obviously they would be more ninkyo-do type organization rather than a violent organization.

>>717105767
to dispel the rumors of her having a flat ass

>>717099779

Love from Kazakhstan! I hate butts so much it is unreal.

>>717105930
> Least gay Kazakhstanian.
based.

>>717098449
>Nice butt
>Biker
>Daddy's girl
>In a position of authority (in school and among the Phantom Thieves)
She's 100% a buttslut.

>>717101307
>this ass
What ass anon? I don't see any.

Makoto is very BBC coded imo

>>717106059
She gets cuddles first and foremost

>>717106184

Agreed. She should star in Doctor Who

>>717106312
Cuddling with Makoto as the little spoon while gently fucking her butt as she rants about her bitchy sister.

>>717105143
Wrong

>>717091081 (OP)
ideally having older characters would make them less retarded

>>717106335
>Doctor Who
No that's gay

>>717106535
Talking western zoomers/alpha not Japan.

>>717106514
>as she rants about her bitchy sister
She'd praise Sae and compare herself negatively while in bed. But if they recently got into a fight she'd be too busy crying to do anything

>>717105671
Shit is weird cause you're right, yet they'll watch a show like Euphoria.

>>717106565
Kaiju No. 8 is a battle shonen with a 32 year old protagonist, but he's just as immature as the typical teenage battle shonen protagonist.

So no, having "older" characters doesn't mean they'll act any differently

>>717106880
I never said older is guaranteed smarter. I said ideally

>don't play purse owner but find the girls hot
>come into purse owner thread
>people are talking without posting hot girls from the games

>>717106880
As someone that knows a lot of dudes in their 30s, if the guy doesn't have a wife and kids to make him "mature", he will likely still act like a teen. Age doesn't make you mature, situations do. It's just that a situation is expected at a certain age but not always.

>>717091275
This. It’s mostly just tumblrfags that want it set in college

>>717091081 (OP)
>no age gap romance
no thanks

>>717092371
I'm 32 in a month and I disagree because anime characters aren't written like actual teenagers. Makoto and Mitsuru are 17/18 in their games and act like they're 30 year olds in the bodies of teenagers. I may jerk off to college girls but my experiences with trying to make friends with anyone I can (who's at least 18 to avoid getting Chris Hansen'd, had 3 underage girls on /soc/ add me and they got deleted instantly) and I basically gave up trying to relate to anyone below 25 yet I still find anime girls bearable personality wise.

>>717107872
>he wants hag romance

>>717107014
That has nothing to do with it, it's because a lot of plots literally can't work with "smarter" characters.

>>717108194
CAUGHT IN A HAG ROMANCE

>>717107872
just have the protagonist tutor a JC. it's much more natural than the other way, too. or so I've heard

>>717107872
It's not age gap if you self-insert this hard.
Why do millennials always have this issue?
Bitching about Persona's school setting stems from this too.

>>717108308
then don't write plots that require kindergarten stacking blocks levels of intelligence to solve

>>717107335
Yeah, being "mature" is more about being at the stage of life expected for you at your age and behaviour is more downstream from circumstances. Two single dudes living on their own are going to behave similarly, because why wouldn't they, it's not just age, it's experience that can change people. Being called immature is more about not moving to the next "stage" when you are expected to by society.

>>717091081 (OP)
read genshiken or some other work set in uni. Japanese university is the time of a Japanese person's like where they're most free. They have no responsibilities or obligations, and have more free time than they will ever have or have ever had. It is known as the "summer vacation" of life.

In reality of course they have a few things they need to do. Historically, the job search and interviewing that began in the months leading up to graduation was always a grind, but the job market now is in serious need of labour so it's not so bad these days. And prior to that, the classwork is a joke, and unlike high school you're not constantly studying in order to get into uni - you're done with studying, you made it to the end.

It's a great setting to romanticize and depict in a life-sim-lite like persona. People are extremely nostalgic about their uni days.

>>717109000
What are your thoughts about Tatami Galaxy?

>>717109175
I mean yeah, another example of the endless freedom uni students have. Pure recreation.

Circles and clubs can provide the structure and obligation if you're looking for it, and I think Persona could depict those in a fun way.

>>717108938
Correct. People typically use it to mean "acting like a shithead" but it doesn't always have to mean that.

>>717105452
Not-Ichiban would be fun.

>>717091081 (OP)
>Why do people want the Persona games to be in college?
Twitter, Resetera, and Reddit "fans". They first played Persona 4 or Persona 5. They're obsessed with the world revolving around them. This type of bandwagoner phenomenon is common not just in games but in real life like sports or the music band clout chasing groupie. If you're in the age group the game's writing will strike a bigger chord with you. You play Persona 3/4 when you were in high school or college and it probably meant a lot to you. Or maybe you didn't like them, but you must agree that for people in that age group those games definitely resonated more because they were in that age. There's no problem playing them as you're older, but they definitely won't leave that same impression you felt as a young adult.

Resetera/Twitter/Reddit are full of HRT trannies and homosexuals who want to deny younger generations that same experirence, they need Persona/whateverIP at the moment to gravitate towards them and only them. It's quite selfish but they don't have the capacity to recognize this. It's why they're on HRT, mentally unstable Resetera. I consider myself pretty pragmatic, while I would like Persona also to move past high school (as they did in Persona 2 duology with older party members), I fully respect and recognize that Gen Z and Gen Alpha will one day appreciate having their own high school Persona games.
>>717091842
Nothing more to add. This is the Holy Gospel of Resetera/Reddit/Twitter when it comes to wishlisthing ideas for ATLUS and Persona.
>>717091832
It's ironic because some of the women being lusted over are the older women like the doctor, the teacher, the prosecutor, and the fortune teller. I don't even know why they feel the need to grandstand about this, all the Persona 3-4-5 girls are adults when the game ends lol. The Persona 3 staff are all literally adults in the Persona 4 timeline including the spinoff games like Arena have them all working adults.

>>717109406
Finally someone who has at least some knowledge how high school and university are perceived in Japan, instead of endlessly reoeating how high school is considered peak freedom there.

>>717108570
>It's not age gap if you self-insert this hard
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about?

Today I will remind them of the canon proportions

>>717109865
Twitter artists and off canon proportions.

>>717109865
anime is not canon. the studio is a contractor making a derivative work. the videogame models are canon

>>717110062
This is a cutscene from the videogame

>>717110094
made by a contracted studio, can you read?

>>717110161
Contracted by who?

>>717110198
the developer, whose work is canon

should I play Persona 3 FES again on the emulator and experience Aigis romance once again? y/n
Before you say it: I love Yukari too but I love Aigis more

>>717110062

You're mom's an anime. That's why I kissed her without her being real

>>717110232
Okay so since the developer wanted and approved of this it's canon. Good talk.

>>717104387
nigga there are multiple plots involving big corpos in almost every persona game - SEBEC, kirijo group, maddice, and there's actual adult persona users now. it'd be the easiest shit to make a game about it. just do a DLC or spin-off to persona 6 to introduce the concept if it's that sacred.

what's it like having friends in high school that aren't backstabbing cunts

>>717091842
>not turn based
Ive seen but not as much as those

>>717110319
it clearly contradicts the videogame models, which the developer themselves made

the fact that they didn't ask for retakes because they're cheapskates doesn't mean it's not obvious which is canon

>>717110274
why not reload?

>>717110329
I didn't go to my high school graduation and just received the diploma and left on the final day. 90% of everyone I knew was a backstabber. My favorite Persona is 3.

>>717110319
by this logic chibi santoushin proportion plush dolls or funko pop proportions are canon too. you're retarded

>>717110454

>>717110329
dropped out right at 9th grade
still get to make 27 an hour to stock shelves school is a meme

>>717091081 (OP)
>College you're already an adult
targuing for persona to be in college is just a "i want to fuck these highschool anime girls but dont want to be ashamed about it" dogwhistle but don't act like the average college kid is that much more adult than a highschool junior/senior

>>717110560
that's better

>>717110560
Dancing models are all more skeleton to avoid fucking with Mocap. People thought a 3 remake would use 3 DAN models and they didn't. Reload Mitsuru has great proportions.

>>717110560

Haru is at least a Norwood 3

>>717103771
It wouldn't work for multiple reasons. First of all you don't have to go to college, you could just not go to class or quit all together. Not being able to have those options in high school makes a lot more sense because it's the law pretty much everywhere, so nobody is wondering why Joker can't just drop out to deal with more important shit like the world ending. There's also the fact that college is much harder, how the fuck would you design a game about having to pass college tests and working in groups and having internships and all that shit? Designing a game around having those options would be a huge shakeup to the formula. You could just say to ignore all that shit but then it's just a palette swap, which is uninteresting and a waste of an interesting idea.

Not that I'm saying Persona couldn't use some shaking up because 5 is the third mainline Persona game in a row to have the same structure while making it feel less naturally integrated with the plot than ever, but I think a new series would work much better for a college setting.

It boils down to this. People consuming media that's made for teenagers, and demanding that it be made for them instead, rather than consuming the plethora of media made for adults.

>>717108194
best in the game

>>717091675
>lose a day because boss wants you for overtime

>>717110560
>Bringing up models that were deliberately nerfed for production reasons, so they didn't have to worry about making unique mocap animations
At least use the Strikers models, or hell, the Tactica ones if you really want to be spicy

>>717099283
An RPG starring a salaryman who works 12 hours a day 6 days a week? Don't think that'd work. I was thinking about making an RPG starring a salaryman but he'd be doing various jobs and eventually get richer so the structure could be more open.

>>717107872
Unpopular opinion, but even though I think age gap relationships are normal, I don't want to see the 264th comment about "problematic power dynamics" in relationships.

Ahh yes, let's have a story of 30-something adults, who mostly go to work everyday doing their 9-5 and then chores on like grocery shopping or house cleaning on the weekend. Epic!!! It's strange how vidya is always set in high school, the time when you have less responsibilities and more adventures. Weird right? Crazy I know!

>>717111456
>lose a day because you have a colonoscopy to go to

>>717111257
>How the fuck would you design a game about having to pass midterms and partaking in clubs and workinng part time jobs and all that shit?
This Persona LARP has gone to far. These games simply cannot exist in real life, it's literally impossible.

>>717099283
Because Persona is marketed to teenagers who can't relate to office settings. Everyone can related to a (high) school setting because basically everyone went through school

>>717111257
high school isn't mandatory in japan, you can quit schooling after middle school. you're literally completely wrong right from the beginning

High school and being a teenager are universally relatable experiences

>>717100562
This literally doesn't happen. I watched the Persona playthrough of a cute girl who seems really libtarded (she "denounced" Yosuke in 4 after liking him at first because of the Kanji teasing) and there was no complaining about fanservice scenes. Then again she also does anime reactions so she's probably used to it

>>717091081 (OP)
>Persona games to be in college?

No one except the tranny youtubers that are uncomfortable about liking a geniunenly japanese game where anyone above 13 is seen as morally correct to date wants the series to be in college.

I do think something to shake up the usual hs routine would be needed after P5 though, perhaps more focus on the jobs rather than the school. I'd also like a femc though as other people here pointed out, Persona reached such a huge development time that an actual femc that changes stuff would be impossible to add.

>>717091081 (OP)
PEEEEEEEERSONA

>>717111624
>I don't want content people like because retards will cry about it.

>>717110560
These models are HORRIFYING.

>>717091081 (OP)
After reading Moyashimon I think a college setting would be neat.

>>717111991
Sluts

I want Atlus to make more games like Catherine
>storyline is not teenagers saving the world
>novel gameplay

>>717112123
They do be like that.

>>717112129
The vast majority of JRPGs aren't about teenagers saving the world. Most JRPGs parties are very diverse in not just age but species.

>>717112209
Imagine the smell of their stanky pussies.

>>717091842
Be careful they ruined our Runefactory games and they’re coming for you next.

>>717091842
Female protagonist would be kino.

>>717111991
i fucking hate heels
quit hiding your feet in a pool setting ladies

>>717112247
it's more a mood thing. If the character is still acting like a teenager, they're a teenager.

I think the next game should move away from a routine entirely desu. The original concept for P5 (not the travelling one but the morally grey actual heister team) needs to be revisited. The idea of constantly changing places and hubs while using your personas to actually pull off insane questionable shit sounds so awesome. There's no reason we can't have a Persona game where we're not just a goody two shoes trying to save the world/town. Also honestly for the next game I want a smaller party size but one that's more affected by social link choices. I am fucking sick and tired of the main story not taking into account any of the social links at any point, its such an awful disconnect.

>>717091842
You forgot
>having party members you dont date hook up

>>717111734
And everyone goes through work. Besides, modern offices are essentially adult daycares, especially in the west. I know that's not saying much since it's japan we're talking about but it really isn't that much different.

>>717112727
a game about office work needs to be more some kind of Dilbertesque existential hell.
I'm not saying Atlus shouldn't make that, but they shouldn't call it Persona. Persona is explicitly about kids finding themselves and experiencing some kind of teen rebellion.

Persona strikers was closer to college age and was kino

>>717112569
That is kino. The thing Persona needs the most is more reactivity within the main cast. I want these fuckers to hook up and bang one another, I want them to react in shock as I reveal to them I've been banging the 36yo goth milf, I want the girls to get icked by me begging the middle schooler to carry my baby.

We need this

>>717091081 (OP)
While some people feel it would lead to a more mature and therefore more compelling story (bc of them hearing p2:EP having an adult cast), for others it’s because they don’t want to feel weird dating high schoolers because of the age gap and everything.
Coincidentally, these are the same people who act as if Kamoshida whole issue was that he was abusing minors and not the fact that he was abusing people in general lol

>>717112892
Strikers was kino because it didn't have a routine or single city. The fact you actually travelled through so many cities made it really feel like an adventure in the way no other Persona game felt.

>>717092371
>relatable
Absolute cancer.
This train of thought leads tokenism

>>717091081 (OP)
It's a completely retarded american thing (the type of fags who freak out about under 18s) and also secondaries who don't understand what high school signifies in japans culture and why it's the setting in so many games and shows.

>>717112727
Making it an office setting makes things impersonal because now the characters aren't friends, they're just coworkers

>>717091081 (OP)
>do they not realize that MOST teenagers have sex
Yeah totally bro

>>717111798
Shit, you got me there. Still, most Japanese parents would at least push their kids to complete that much. It feels a more universal experience that's easier to design around than something like college.

>>717111708
I knew peers who passed their midterms while dealing with clubs and part time jobs, throwing in an occasional dungeon in there doesn't sound unbelievable. You get a lot less free time living by yourself in college and especially when you start working.

>>717113445
Well he has said MOST you loser

>>717113327
As if high school fever dreams are any different? How many people do you know back from high school?

>>717109865
Ryuji is a lucky fella

>>717112727
You missed the first part of my post. Persona is primarily marketed towards teenagers who can't relate to a work based setting yet. If an older guy plays it, he can still relate because he went through school. The reverse doesn't work, only school is universally relatable in this context

>>717098569
Chihaya, Takemi, Kawami(?), (?), and Ohya?

>>717113737
I agree with you but I wouldn't mind if Atlus made more games like Catherine. Really liked that game.

An adult persona game can work...if the Protagonist is already married and the wife is a SL too. And is an immigrant who lives in a collective household with several of his cousins and their boyfriends/girlfriends. And the issues they face are handled decentle, like racism, discrimination, harassment from police, etc.

The wife's SL starts at max, but if you can take it beyond she will drop out as she gets pregnant. Issues facing the child will be DLC content like Royal/Golden set a few years later.

>>717113823
it's Sae

>>717113483
Yeah no one ever passed college exams while working on group projects during the semester and maybe doing an internship on the side. It's literally unthinkable.
>You get a lot less free time living by yourself in college
Shit niggas who didn't go to college say.

>>717091081 (OP)
erm... dont you think its WEIRD for an adult to want to romance teens?!?!?!

It’s less messy to write about high schoolers since you don’t have to worry about presenting a compelling story about broke 19 year olds struggling to survive and instead you can just have them at school doing whatever you need them to.

>>717091842
Westoids need to get their skull caved in with a shovel

Putting aside the fact that a lot of the push for older Persona characters is to do with pearl clutching around teens, a Persona game about Japanese salary men and Christmas Cakes working in an office would be an interesting spin.

High schools are easier to write stories around. College campuses are a difficult place for the primary location, because there’s less structure in college, and the experience is less universal.

>>717114409
Currycels need to be barred from the internet.

>>717101307
Why don't you post Persona 5 itself, you fucking idiot
Not the sanitized/unified dancing models

>>717114641
> Colleges are less structured.
That should be more reason to write about College settings because of the freedom to experiment inside it. Usually colleges are themed after specific trade group like Arts, Technology, Science, Agriculture etc. That already provides framework for characters and personalities.

>>717091081 (OP)
Persona is shit but I'm going to masturbate to Makoto
I only played 5 and the games tutorial I'm fairly certain lasts until the game ends
It is mind numbingly boring gameplay wise

>>717114805
A high school setting allows you to have a wide variety of characters with different interests and backgrounds in the same group. You can have any kind of character you want there, because they're forced to be there.

In college, people generally only hang out with people who are similar to themselves. College is a choice, unlike high school. You aren't forced to go there or interact with people you otherwise wouldn't.

>>717115000
That's why you would have more freedom to explore different places in College, perhaps join a club at the college and meet people that way or hang around and find people through activities around College. The writer's job is to make it make sense why variety of people come together really. Its not that difficult. Isn't Silver Spoon manga about an agricultural college? The people there are all different.

>>717113179
Strikers was fun but the combat system was a chore to get through. Still need to beat tactics but feel no desire to

>>717115206
Yes, but with a high school setting, you don't have to make sense of or explain it. They're just there.

>>717113445
OP here, I mean I'm a loser as well but all my siblings had sex in high school except me and to this day I'm a social loser so yeah it tracks.

>>717115000
I think it’s also worth nothing that high school is also easily one of the most romanticised periods of modern life in all of media, east or west. The whole idea of being a teen with no real responsibilities while also experiencing love and sexual attraction for the first time is an enticing fantasy for many. Especially for people who had a horrible time in high school and wished their high school life was more like what anime and movies depict.

>>717115000
In P5 like 80% of your Confidants are just people you've met outside of school.

>>717115507
That too

It appeals to both high schoolers whose real high school experience sucks, and adults who wished their high school didn't suck

>>717115206
It would be hard to do unless all the characters either met in the dorms, at a job, etc.

>>717105273
Is there any evidence at all that P4G had a FemC planned?

>>717115749
There you have it.
> You meet your #1 and #2 friends at a club.
> You meet #3 friend at a part-time job.
> You meet #4 and #5 at a party #3 invites you to (Karaoke.)
> You meet #6 and #7 through some sports event or something.
Easy.

>>717115910
You can't be friends with someone you met at work

>>717091275
Naoto cute

>>717115869
It's called pattern recognition fag. They've never added gay romance and their previous title contained a femMC with male romances. It doesn't take a genius to figure out this is way more likely to be a scrapped femMC than a fag route but a fag/fujo like you will ignore all evidence that points to it being straight just to feel like you had a sliver of a chance of canonical fag shit.

>>717115974
Yes you can if you are a normie, many people find friends through work.

>>717091081 (OP)
If they censor Yukiko, Rise, Kanji, Yosuke and Naoto, then legit what will be left out of Persona 4? Main story and Chie's SL?
>a game about growing up and accepting your bad parts
>except nobody does, because it's problematic to grow up and not assume your bad parts as your entire personality in 2025
>>717115869
Hashino said she was dropped, because story didn't mesh well with the idea of Yu being a girl.
But I think they were just running outta cash, and had to asset flip a game to save their asses.
There's tons of unused content in OG Persona 4, that they later added to P4G.
>>717116146
Why would Yosuke ever be gay, if he had a female love interest, that at the very least like him a little back?

>>717116315
ESLkun I don't think he's gay that's the point of my post.
>she was dropped
Did they ever officially talk about the P4 FemMC?

>>717114709
yeah still zero ass

>>717116169
Seriously it could be as easy as:
> Yo dude, want to come to this Karaoke party, there's these two chicks that want to meet up but one of them requested to bring another guy to introduce her friend to as part of a mixer, she's about your age. The party is tomorrow.
> You got nothing planned tomorrow so you decide to check it out out of curiosity.
There's your plot-beat for that scene.

They should push away the normies and make the next one even younger. Middleschoolers.

Maybe even just make then party middleschoolers while the MC is a collage aged man who still slhas sex with them

>>717116508
I was just providing additional commentary, not disagreeing with you.
They drew her concept art, that's for sure.

>>717115749
I totally forgot how we met the shady back-ally doctor or the autistic art student from a different school because they were Joker's classmates.

>>717116761
That was Chie's concept art

>>717091081 (OP)
I want to date hags and not have them make it into some kind of dilemma

>>717116921
I'm in my 30's and a nice tight 18 year old.

>>717116748
Elementary school aged children who summon personas with those little alarm things they always have attached to their backpacks.

>>717116921
The problem with hags is that they are seemingly always relegated to being side characters. Instead of P6 being shitty or faggy it'd be cool if there was a hag in the main party so you get to spend more time with her.

>>717116903
Isn't it actually Yukiko, because they repurposed the design for her? She even looks like short-haired Yukiko a bit on this drawing.

>>717111991
I'm a pervert and this is just sad.

>>717115869
they never even thought of a femc for any game besides P3P, all the femc cope is people not wanting to admit that the devs wanted you to date guys in both p4 and p5.

>>717117351
How come they never added any gay romance then? Okham's razor says it's more probable they just scrapped male character romances along with FeMC they were meant for.

>>717111991
>tattoo
disgusting
>>717112478
>footfag btfo'd
kek

Being a Persona fan that doesn't have any strong feelings about the social sim aspect is miserable.
You just know Persona would drop off the face of the planet if they stopped with social links and came up with a more fun side mechanic instead.

>>717091842
Fuck college persona I want 19th century Persona

>>717091842
FPBP

>>717099482
>they pulled it off in p3 fine enough,
No, they did not. It completely ruined everything personal and thematic about the game.

>>717117075
Didn't Persona 3 have an elementary school person on the team?

>>717115910
Or you can just skip all that and have it in high school so you don't have to explain how the characters met or what common interests they ahve

>>717118850
I mean you can have the MC be at some hangout spot that they have to go to for story purposes and just use that as a means to meet everyone.

>>717118850
That's such a good idea. Why didn't the actual games think of that?

>>717119063
There's also the missing element of people in college being grown ass adults who will be lacking in free time. High school students have way more time and you get to have the first few party members just be from your school as an easy way to introduce 2-3 party members early on

>>717119558
>people in college being grown ass adults who will be lacking in free time
How old are you?

>>717119558
Bro I spent most of college partying, drinking, shitposting on forums and on 4chan, and still graduated with honors.

>muh adult
Unless you have a family to feed you have free fucking time. It's just that people said that shit because they didn't like you enough to hang out with you. Don't worry they did that to me as well

>>717113483
The most free time I ever had in my councious life was in college when I did 16 hour weeks and maybe 4 hours a week of studying/homework for the first two years.

>>717119982
Not everyone's parents are rich, not everyone is doing an easy major. Most japanese work jobs while in college to pay tuition.

>>717120494
He's a nepo baby, he wouldn't understand hard work if it lynched him

>>717120494
>Im a poorfag, just went to college on scholarship because I was a virgin incel neet in high school
>I was pre-med and got into medical school, and had to do a bunch of clubs and bullshit to get in as well.

To the first point, I remember I would try and sign up for experiments where they'd pay you just so that I had beer money on the weekend

>>717120494
Tuition in Japan is like $6k per year.

some of you guys are exaggerating how "difficult" college is. Most of that stuff is a cakewalk until you get into the mid-upper levels of your (assuming good) major and you have a ton of free time unless you're working like 30+ hours a week. It's a way better experience than high school at least in the states

>>717120984
True. The only people I know that had it tough in college were the Engineers, and even with them, the ones gifted in math usually still played video games.

>>717120984
idk man, I did microelectronics in my Euro shithole and I had to work my ass off with all the projects, tests and math assignments.

I see that this thread is still going. I've played some Persona games, I like them and I don't have a problem with the fanservice (they are just fictional characters and I have a policy of ''in fiction anything goes'', even if it's something I disagree with or that could be considered offensive), so, I'll just say this: If you want to play an anime style game (speaking in general terms) with adult characters...Dark Rose Valkyrie, Collar X Malice, Soul Hackers 2, Hakuoki, Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness, Code of Princess, Fairy Fencer F, Scar-Lead Salvation etc, are right there.

>>717120984
I did CS. Spent every day smoking weed, except for one day every few weeks I'd just crank out whatever project I was procrastinating on. My GPA went up in college compared to highschool.

>>717091081 (OP)
>Why do people want the Persona games to be in college?
The only people who want that are normalfag westerners who think that wanting to fuck a 17 year old anime girl who doesn't exist beyond pixels and CG models is equivalent to wanting to fuck a real flesh and blood 17 year old girl because their minds are so warped that they have a complete inability to discern fiction from reality.

Can anyone tell me any benefits to a college setting? It just looks like downsides to me because the setting is less iconic than high school without any upsides I can think of.

>Finally get into P3
>Discover that it's the dream game I'd always wanted to play as a kid
>Just as I'm getting into the series, I found out that it's going downhill
Better late than never I guess...

>>717121269
It's not that we want to play an anime style game with adult characters, it's that we want to play a life simulator with anime adult characters.

>>717121909
I wonder if the persona team even exists anymore or if they burnt and left like the main guy.

>>717122056

Persona has been around for over a quarter century, it's an old ass series. The last proper game was 9 years ago.

>>717122047
It doesn't exist because the idea sucks ass.

>>717122384
Life simulator games are very popular. Some people like anime, why not combine the two?

>>717122231
And persona 6 is probably not even being worked on at all which is the problem. I think I remember someone saying the P3R and P4R port team are going to be the new persona devs which sounds like persona in name only if none of the original devs are there.

>>717122576
The adult part sucks ass hence why nobody has done it. You say "why not" and the answer is clearly that people have contemplated it before and realized high school makes for a better setting.

>>717122584
Honestly I can see them remaking P1 and 2 before we get P6. Honestly at this point I don't even WANT P6.

>>717091081 (OP)
>Why do people want the Persona games to be in college?
because americans think fapping to high school teenagers is pedophilia

>>717117494
Both P4 and P5 have leftover data that goes as back as the game's initial prototypes, and neither had any trace of a femc in them. But data for romancing male characters goes as far as the final months of development in both. They never pulled the trigger on it because although its easy to forget because its 2025, P4 and P5 released at a time when putting gay shit in your games meant an objective loss of sales and constant controversy with no upside, so it never made it to the final game. I don't care for it cause I'm always a hag retard in Persona games, but P6 is definetly gonna have yaoi stuff considering how its a net positive in today's age. That or just go with only a female protag and have yuri romance instead as that's more marketable to the jav audience.

japan is "peaked in highschool" the country. everything that follows after is endless wageslavery in a bleak cubicle where you are yelled @ by mr. takeshistein who got into a position of power because he knew the right people & is worse @ his job than you are.
in highschool, there is a belief that possibilities are vast & you can become the person you dream of being. + teenage girls are the sexiest version of women.

>>717107872

Fuck college. I want to see a juvenile military academy.

>>717111991
>irl slavs trying to be anime girls

>>717125882
These arent slavic.

>>717123718
Yet they'll watch shows like Euphoria and other high school shows and fap to them

>>717111991
>No ass
>can't twerk
>probably all have that fishy fish

Just terrible

>>717091842
Playing as a chadette reverse trap who seduces every girl in the game into her harem would unironially be based thoughforthwith.

>>717091842
>lgbt romance

Like Persona 2?
Come on now. That ones already been done.
Now we want universal lgbt romances. Step it up.

>>717099779
>Its against the law to make that sort of game now due to CSAM regulations and bullshit from feminists.
This is why there will never be a good Persona again. Laws are so disgusting now that they blatantly disregard the reality of how people live IRL in order to trick people into thinking that this is the "new normal".

>>717116146
>They've never added gay romance
Persona 2 exists.

We need a Persona 2 remake, newfags are being dumb now.

>>717122056
From memory, Metaphor's team was ex persona/smt on the old engine.
I really hope they still stick around the P6 for design things a bit though. The rookies are doing ok, but you're talking a new persona here. You'd need some of the old crew.

>>717111668
>lose multiple days to a japanese cold

it's been 10 years and I still cannot decide if ann or makoto is the correct choice.

>>717127685
Pick whichever your dick desires

>>717091842
Most of the tards asking for this shit just want to turn Persona into Fire Emblem
>college instead of high school
Three Houses
>female protagonist option
All the games with an avatar
>LGBT romance
Fates onward
Don't forget about being able to play matchmaker.

>>717125993
They'll justify it as the actors being in their 20's but that same logic doesn't apply to drawings for some reason.

Just make another Catherine. It was their best game

>>717128587
>different = good
No

>>717127027
Persona started at 3.

>>717091081 (OP)
Persona 2 part 2 worked just fine with an adult cast. a hypothetical modern persona set in college could still use the calendar system but it would be even more flexible while being able to have a cast that can more widely vary in age, allowing for more character stories and arcs that aren't always just "young person finds themself"

>>717101176
I find most Onsen scenes in Manga boring and stale these days, not because I am a prude but they tend to devolve into
>oh let's hoogle at the women
>get caught
>or guy goes in the wrong stall at the wrong time and has to play Stealth to not get caught
and it always ends with either party or both feeling upset and/or angry
To me that just creates one more awkward moment that can only serve to create distance, no one grows from it, it doesn't help the relation, or the plot.

You want to give me fanservice? Give it to me in a way that pushes the characters CLOSER and make it steem from their desire for skinship, because they feel COMFORTABLE with each other not in a way that one character has to steal a peek because they a pervert or because the girl is a prude who can't touch the guy's hand without stuttering or spazzing out.

>>717128891
This is why the "drunk" scene in P4 worked so well. It's not only realistic as having sensual and sexual activities at a party while drunk is what teens do, but the fact the cast is comfy enough to just do that stuff among one another shows how close they've gotten. Although I love P5 my main criticism about is that by the end the cast doesn't feel at all like they're actual friends. Anytime there's an opportunity for them to do something truly intimate as a friendgroup, they just do lame "omg why are u guys starrringggg, thats so gross" shit

>>717099007
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqV-DW3tdNs

Im on July on my first Persona 3 Reload playthrough. When does this shit start getting interesting.

>>717129527
After you close the game and play Persona 3 FES instead.

>>717129527
I got really deep into the game and quit around level 50 because it sucked ass. There's one dungeon and the story is not very interesting.

>>717129527
Not event joking, the story doesn't even start until November

>>717129469
>omg why are u guys starrringggg, thats so gross
Another problem I got with anime/manga is how much is laced in Irony that it feels like a Marvel movie, characters are so quick to call one a pervert or hide behind layers of irony, makes me wish the MC would tell the person to fuck off sometimes.

Is not funny or playful when it represents the knee-jerk reaction most of the times and moments of sincerity happen only when they want to signal some kind of milestone or important dialogue, irony shouldn't be the default state.

People grow up slower these days so college in not highschool. I'd rather fight 'progress' and not givein to the adult child epidemic.
>29isold.png

>>717130298
>adult child epidemic
Why are people acting like this is a problem now when adults have be acting like impulsive children for millennia?

>>717091832
>openly lust after any woman below the age of 21.
I got called a pedo once for dating a 20 year old lol

>>717092694
Maam do not begin!

>>717129469
I thought the opposite. It was a hamfisted way for characters to interact and share information. The event culminates with the most nonsensical harem shlock with the girl of your choice fawning over you, and all of them wanting (You) in the anime. And the premise of the scene doesn't even work because there's no fucking alcohol on the premises at all, so there's no fucking atmosphere to get drunk off of. Teddie can't get influenced by other clubbers because they aren't drunk. And it's not like he's tapped into the collective unconscious's perception of a club either.

>>717117676
Isn't that what 3R did with the male party members?

>>717096616
>College age characters would never have the free time needed to do all the shit the characters in Persona do.

Lol, you have way more free time in college than you do in high school.

>>717130716
I'm 31 and currently lusting for a 23 year old.

>>717109556
>have them all working adults.
heh...
>*teleports behind you*
>*unzips penis*
What about Ken, huh???
>*moonwalks in your direction*
He's still a highschooler in the P4 timeline
>*slips on a banana peel*
>*laugh track*

>>717110457
I don't have a savefile

>>717130716
i do think the age of consent is going to be raised to 21 in our time

>>717131759
I KNEEL.........

>>717091081 (OP)
honestly, more fun things happen at college than high school. you have freedom and you're allowed to drink. japan is a bit retarded for focusing on high school, its an inferior setting that only appeals to people with aspergers

>>717127685
Makoto and it's not close imo

>>717131687
How are all of these 30+ year old anons meeting early 20 year olds?

>>717127685
I never liked Ann

>>717132204
jesus christ when was the last time you talked to a female, dude? at least 50% of women that age refuse to date in their own age group

>>717132686
I texted this one girl recently, but the conversation went nowhere and I got ghosted. I don't really talk to women because I have no clue how to relate to the majority of them. I'm also shut-in who doesn't get out much.

>>717113645
true

>>717132892
Face matters. I grew of thinking women who aren't related to you are biologically incapable of giving more then one word replies. Only internet women have actual conversations with me since only voice.

Would Maiko like this?

>>717092189
I'd like to play modern rural Mongolian Persona.

>>717111991
>FOOTaba
HOLY SEX

>>717127685
ann isnt even a part of the conversation

Adult here--I want adult persona because adults and their lives are more interesting and have more potential than children who are stuck going back and forth to math class and talking to their dad or whatever. Plus protag could have sex for once.

/v/ likes kidsona because they are pedophiles, lets be real

>>717091081 (OP)
Because there are "people" who see wanting to fuck Futaba and wanting to fuck Nanako as the same thing

>>717134694
Almost 10 years later and Makoto still reigns supreme. She's earned that codename

>>717091081 (OP)
>ass

>>717091081 (OP)
Most of these people are normalfag tourists who hate anime but for some reason think they belong in a fanbase centered around an anime jrpg. They're subhuman and should be ignored.

Personally though I'm just kind of tired of teenage melodrama, I can't relate to it at all anymore. That being said I don't think Persona should change, high school dating sim + jrpg is kind of its whole schtick and Metaphor is proof that the formula suddenly becomes kinda dry if you rip out the high school dating sim component. I'd rather just play SMT at that point.

>>717134694
>Faz
>Literal faggot and his viewers are shippers who think Joker searching for Akechi after the dungeon and being concerned for him is a sign of homosexuality
Of course the most reddit tourist community likes the reddit girl

>>717128836
If you want adult characters, play a game that's made for adults

The only way I would like an adult Persona would be in a Raidou-like private investigation agency setting

>>717091081 (OP)
>I always hated this about NPCs. Like do they not realize that MOST teenagers have sex? I don't know why people like pretending that no one thinks about sex until they're 18
This is why its always so funny seeing zoomer retards pretend to be puritans, as if anyone with a functional brain is fooled by this. Yea, Im really sure your entire generation is asexuals. Right.

>>717136654
Zoomers have far less sex than previous generations though, that's true

>>717101307
i'm glad someone saved my webm

There's tons of Japanese stuff with adult protagonists. Volume-wise, there's more of it than there is stuff with teenage protagonists.

It just doesn't get as much attention, but it exists if you're willing to look for it.

>>717134694
The popularity of Makoto and Whomire makes me realize that people will just like whatever is shilled at them.

>>717137158
Makoto looking pretty also helps

>>717137158
contrarianism is a mental illness

How can anyone like Haru?

>>717091081 (OP)
I dont understand why a bunch of grown 30+ year old men want to fantasize about high school dating while being a gnostic spirit warrior that shit sounds so fucking retarded I instantly lose respect for anyone seriously into this series. Legitamately grow the fuck up, being an adult is so much better than being a kid, youre just spending your days self inserting as a kid to vicariously see yourself with underage anime girls, its beyond pathetic. The range of emotion the characters are capable of feeling is limited by them being kids too.

>>717131941
I think they assume that it's only high school people watching anime but I watched a LOT more anime in college than in high school.

>>717137592
>being an adult is so much better than being a kid

As a kid/teen, you have the freedom to do whatever the fuck you want, whenever you want.

As an adult, you can't do that because you have a job.

>>717137158
I think Makoto is boring and sucks ass but she isn't shilled in game like Sumire is.

>>717137651
It's because the majority of people who watch anime ARE high schoolers. Most anime is targeted at that demographic, and so the protagonists are also that age to make them relatable to the intended audience.

But there's also a huge amount of adult-targeted anime that features adult protagonists. The main issue is that people seem to want the types of stories teen-targeted anime have, but with adult protagonists, not realizing why that wouldn't work.

>>717100562
It's sad that I can tell which streamer you're talking about based on how you described the chat.

>>717137592
says the frogposter

>>717136186
every single persona game is rated for adults anon. part of the appeal of dating sims set in highschool is the fantasy of doing it again, but better. and the nu-personas very much take aspects of those dating sims and smush them together with megaten gameplay.

>>717137972
GOD DAMNIT.

>>717138048
>every single persona game is rated for adults anon
Not in the country of their development.

>>717112425
P3 FeMC was the best Persona protag. Nothing like whoring around with your boyfriend at the hospital and you fuck guys, women and be kind t Ken.
Plus evenings with the dog in your room...

>>717137592
Any and all posts calling someone else are immediately nullified upon being posted on boards dot 4chan dot org slash vee slash. You're throwing stones in the biggest glass house there is.

>>717134819
I think Persona 5 heavily implies that Joker fucks some of the girls if not all of them. In Persona 3 they outright say it.

>>717137668
Thats not true at all kids are limited by not having money, they have more free time to have a beach day or whatever the fuck but again thats lame as fuck for a grown man to self insert as a kid having beach days. Youre overall way more restricted on the things you can do as a kid and the main factor is that the range of emotion and level of ideas they can process as teens inherently limits the story because theyre not old enough to develop complex ideas or have deep meaningful experiences beyond the standard anime tropes. I just think its retarded to self insert as a kid to date kids and then on top of that youre the magical badass spirit detective from yuyu hakusho. I wouldnt mind them being young if it totally abandoned the school setting with a crazy plot but then it wouldnt be a vicarious self insert fantasy and thats really what you want. Which is lame.

>>717138048
Most Persona games are CERO B in Japan, which means they're for teens aged 12 and up. The only exceptions are Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5, both of which are both Cero C for ages 15 and up.

>>717136761
Yeah but if you based it on what they say on Twitter you'd assume that 90% of them were virgins and this just isnt true.

>>717138248
Yea whatever, I like lame stuff too, but I dont like stories where you are meant to self insert as a youth. Its like the same with isekai stuff where you self insert through the protagonist and get everything you wanted, become the best badass ever and get a harem. Just fucking retarded and inherently for losers.

>>717138341
Age of the target audience has no impact on themes or complexity.

>>717137316
Yeah she's one of the only girls I never bothered to romance during my P5 playthrough. Didn't help she was behind a huge stat wall as well.

>>717091081 (OP)
It's adults insecure in their worry that they popped a boner to an underaged anime girl

>>717138432
I didnt say the age of the target audience I am talking about the characters in the story, but nice attempt to move goalpost without addressing anything. Enjoy your teenage dating sim high school life dork.

>>717138420
Even normal people fantasize about being cool and getting girls.

>>717135890
Normalfags are cultural locusts. They swarm in, feast on everything to the detriment of the locals, then move on leaving the thing they came for in ruins.

>>717138538
Yea nice way to selectively respond to what you deem relevant, you are leaving out being a little kid and fucking other kids as the core root component of your fantasy, but thats fine enjoy your high school sim for arrested development 30somethings

>>717138512
Older characters limits what you can do with them.

Younger characters can grow, learn new things, and change over the course of the story. Making them adults takes that away, a character who's already of age can't "come of age".

>>717138627
I dunno I think terminally online losers can do same thing, just look at the state of modern 4chan

>>717134694
non-PT girls > PT girls

>>717138664
Nice I know already no matter what I say you will defend your high school sim because its just what you like, I am just telling you its very pathetic and inherently for losers with developmental issues to self insert and I have no respect for you and people who enjoy what you enjoy.

>>717138664
do you think older people aren't capable of growth or change? how old are you kiddo?

>>717137862
link?

>>717138803
Older people only change when life forces them do.

>>717138781
Yeah but like look at most women. Most will not change from 18-30+ until they either get ugly or get a kid and are forced to mature. They don't just change because they get older.

>>717138781
Most of these games/anime feature protagonists who have their own personalities, backstories, and motivations, making self-insertion impossible.

>>717137316
Aesthetic match since they're both based on French literature, similar interests since gardening naturally leads itself to cooking and brewing coffee, she has the most genuinely pleasant personality to be around, and she's fucking rich. She's actually the perfect romance option from a gentleman thief perspective, since she's a rich heiress with a tradwife personality.

>>717136761
They have less sex only because their social interactions have been fucked up by being raised entirely on the internet so the boys consume a steady diet of redpill ideology while the women gobble up 2010s feminist shit and neither side knows how to actually talk to each other because they're all socially autistic and view every interaction as a zero sum game where they're expecting to be raped, be accused of rape, posted on social media about how ickeriffic creepoids they are or what whoretastic sluterinos they are.

They have less sex simply because the social dynamics that would lead to it are completely fucked up and they've taken to substituting it with consuming porn in the same way a drug addict consumes crack.

>>717113319
>what high school signifies in japans culture and why it's the setting in so many games and shows.
Is it because high school in Japan is too rigid and punishing if you step out of line?

>>717138857
you have a view on grown people that can only be from having a perspective that is outside of being or knowing adults

>>717113319
It has nothing to do with any of that, high school is simply easier to write for.

>>717091081 (OP)
>Like do they not realize that MOST teenagers have sex? I don't know why people like pretending that no one thinks about sex until they're 18
Because terminally online twatter users will say it's problematic and traumatic and that the japanese are a bunch of evil pedos

If the characters have to be teenagers to explain why they have so much free time, then why are sitcoms able to get away with having adult protagonists? Hell, most "adult" media gives the characters way more free time than they would ever realistically have, but no one notices or cares

>>717138850
Joseph Anderson. He's streamed P5, P4 Golden and P3 Reload. The P4 and P3 ones were probably the worst with the "uggghhh i hate anime" shit in his chat.

>>717138664
Have you actually played any of the nuPersona games? Like without skipping half the social links?

>>717116068
Naoto is ONLY for Megidolaon-strong cock of Yu "Electrohegao" Thundercock.

Most of /v/ is now as old or older than the "old" character in FF7

>>717138781
>Does the same thing he accuses the other anon of doing inside his own post.
LOL, LMAO even

>>717137704
>she isn't shilled in game like Sumire is
Are you joking? Her joining is the exact moment every other character gets derailed. Ann and Ryuji and Yusuke all get flanderized to hell and back, Makoto becomes the effective leader of the Phantom Thieves (Futaba is co-leader, Joker is only there to rubberstamp their plans), she's effectively the central character of two palaces (her own and Sae's) while everyone else basically gets shoved into thei background once their arc is over (Futaba excepted because she's basically just treated as a plot device where hacking is treated as magic). She's the most shilled character in the entire game until Royal happens and Sumire has scenes awkwardly grafted onto (but largely disconnected from) the story because 99% of them are just scenes with Joker.

>>717137316
Haru and Ryuji are the only members of the team I actually genuinely like.

>>717139287
All of that and that fag still ended up choosing Rise anyway.
>I like it when she calls me senpai...

>>717107341
And fags who screech about "muh age gap" and "I can't be attracted to these fictional 17 year olds! It's not right."
Like grow the fuck up and realize you're playing an anime game. It's not real.

>>717138269
He 100% fucks Takemi and Ohya if you romance them. It's about as unambiguous as you can get without actually showing him railing them.

>>717138664
4 of P3's social links are adults. Same with 4 of P4's, plus a 5th if you include the fox who's old enough to have kits, plus a 6th in Golden. P5 jumps that number to 8 confidants, 9 if you include Igor/Yaldy, 10 in Royal. There's a reason why they're all based on tarot arcana.

>>717137158
Not really. It's just that Makoto is the most active girl in terms of story action besides Sae. The others fade in the background once their story is done. Don't know about Sumire or Kasumi since I never played royale.

>>717140465
Ren "Hag Plapper" Amamiya

>>717138781
No one cares about what a loser like you thinks. Much less the Persona Team.

>>717091081 (OP)
>blud ur 22 why you playing a highschool dating sim?? [skull emoji] bro is that a sex scene? don't you know that character is A MINORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>717140291
Bro is about to finish reading one of the longest VNs of all time on stream and talked about thinking womb tattoos are hot just yesterday. The performative self-hating weeb act is so cringe and his entire community does it.

>>717140291
even someone like that cant resist best girl

>>717140619
why does the game allow this?

>>717140771
Rise is the STRONGEST. Best girl and even her shadow completely RAPED AND GAPED the gang until Teddie did his Super Saiyan attack, just to summon his own shadow that was breddy kool.

>>717140786
Because Joker canonically prefers older women

>>717138979
People are still having sex it's just a bunch of women having sex with Chad through dating apps and not getting a real relationship

>>717140479
You know those sections of the game where you'll have like 20 minutes of cutscenes? Imagine them tacking on another pointless one to those sections where Kasumire randomly bumps into you in the hallway or at the station or shit and youre forced to eat lunch or go to a cafe with her while she bitches about gymnastics.

>>717140717
It makes money. I'm just tired of it. In the 2010s the weebs were real now they're fake autists doing it for digital hugs.

What is the most polite way of asking a she/her you met online on a gaming discord if she is a biological female?

>>717141651
>met online on a gaming discord
You already know the answer.

>>717141575
I hate that type of shit. The worst thing about them is how fucking disgustingly shallow their kowledge of things is and how disinterested they are in going any deeper. I know a few ironic/normalfag weebs IRL and they're a chore to talk with about anime or manga or video games because they will almost exclusively engage in entrylevel shit and nothing else. If they play VNs or read hentai or whatever, it's not out of any actual interest in it but it's performative shit so they can show others this WACKY Japanese anime sex shit, it's like the weeaboo version of seeing someone bring up used panty vending machines. There's a dishonesty to it all. I'll try to recommend or talk about shit that isn't One Piece or Attack on Titan or, say, an older JRPG that isn't Persona and they just stare and respond in a vacant manner as if they haven't been programmed to try or think about these things. It's fucking maddening, I hate these losers so much.

>>717141508
I don't really care about her since I haven't played royale but this is persona Anon... What do you expect? 20 minutes cutscenes are part of the course. Especially if it's about mundane problems. It's part of the appeal. Maybe play something like fortnight if long cutscenes are a negative?

>>717137158
Makoto social link isn't even about her, its about fixing some random npc friend of hers besides that she's the only normal one in the group. I dont get the hype but I guess thats her appeal, Kasumi would've been fine if it wasn't for the schizo sister shit, felt like such forced drama

>>717141702
We live in the same city and been tossing around the idea of hanging out but I just want to figure out first rather than risk meeting up and having the world know that I date troons

>>717142141
>Makoto social link isn't even about her, its about fixing some random npc friend of hers besides that she's the only normal one in the group.
I wonder if anyone who bitches about this actually played through it or is mad that it wasn't sucking her ass in every rank. Eiko's used about as much as every other secondary character in most of the other social links. The entire social link is mostly Makoto complaining that she does't actually know what she wants to do with her life and forcing Joker into playing cops with her while she talks about MUH DADDEH because she hero worships him.

>>717137592
We all dream about going back to high school or college in our minds as rejuvenated teenagers and 20-something year olds.

>>717141651
>gaming Discord
>animu avatar likely

It's a man, baby. If you feel you're limited to Discord creatures in your search of an actual woman, you need to rethink your life choices.
It's never too late to stop being a hikkikomori and resign yourself to scraping the genetic barrel, which will bring you more suffering in the end.

>>717136761
Zoomer men do. Zoomer women are in an STI epidemic.

why do we keep discussing this nonsense everyday when there was already a Persona game with an adult cast?

>>717144024
yeah and no one played it

>>717141651
Ask her if she likes the Sims.
Then ask if she likes Fallout.

>>717091949
Various Daylife comes to mind

>>717143732
no I don't, I'm fine being 34 and having no job

>>717101307
what a dork

>>717147147
be nice anon

>>717091081 (OP)
Ironic weebs, that's why.

>>717146292
You may say that, but your dream-subconscious thinks otherwise when you're asleep.