Pic related explains so much about /v/ discussion

Why would I bother getting good at a shitty game?

>>717103208 (OP)
this but ironically

>>717103208 (OP)
/v/ has been overtaken by mindless casualfags who can't enjoy a game without a lot of jingling keys. Says a lot about why gacha are popular here.

>>717103345
ps2 game/ps4 game

>>717103419

>>717103208 (OP)
>>717103345
Fixed

>>717103732
chuck off

>>717103391
Gacha is also vulnerable to the phenomenon in the OP though. Maybe even more so than usual given how many people will vehemently insist there is no gameplay whatsoever in any gacha.

>>717103893
id play that
gmod?

>>717103208 (OP)
>but left is not necessary
I've seen this thread before and that's what the argument boils down to. I don't know how to counter it.

On the one hand I agree that sandboxes like TotK are shit. Building things take longer and isn't fun. But a game like Mario 64, schmovement matters a lot even if the game doesn't FORCE you to use it.

>>717103208 (OP)
I paid $60 for the game. Am I supposed to make my own fun?

>>717104647
"Necessary" doesn't matter if the game is beaten faster and better by an engaged player than a disengaged one. Sandboxes like BOTW are shit because doing the fancy thing kills the enemy like half a second faster than playing the basic bitch flurry rush game you've been playing since the Plateau.

>>717103208 (OP)
Why do you assume the player isn't game to make it to Bob Omb battlefield. Sure, the player might not have a strong opinion at first, but once he gets TO THE ACTUAL FIRST LEVEL might start enjoying it.
Your webm is stupid and disingenuous.

>>717104647
something balance too much A bad but too much B also bad

>>717103208 (OP)
the right side should be a fat retard watching someone else play the right footage on youtube

More like "my youtuber said this game sux!" vs "my youtuber said this game is great!".

>>717103208 (OP)
more like speedrunner cutting of 5 sec by hammering the jump button

>>717105235
>brings up e-celebs when there aren't any
where did they touch you anon?

>>717104647
Because Mario 64 takes skill and rewards you for it by being faster. The more optimal path is usually the harder path. TotK is braindead. Almost anything can be bypassed with wind and glider or hoverbike. The optimal strat is the easiest strat. "Make your own fun" is actually about strategizing the optimal path, not about wasting time in the sand. While the easy path in TotK is always clear, it isn't in SM64.

I cannot fathom playing games like on the right. Figuring out the best way to move around is like a universal truth of video games.

Now let's see Paul Allen's gameplay.

>>717103208 (OP)
not really