Execs be like
>Too much soul. Remove it.

>too much soul, remove it

>bothering to have an opinion about something this trivial

>they used mario rpg as placeholder
>OMG THE FUCKING LORE AND SOUL

I HATE PERFECT MARIO
I HATE PERFECT MARIO

game was fucked from the instant they decided to keep shoehorning in the multiplayer feature from NSMBwii and onwards

artstyle i couldn't give less of a toss about; level design is what's important for a singleplayer mario game. super mario world, new super mario bros, and super mario bros 3 remain the peak. SINGLE FUCKING PLAYER FOCUSED and world in particular wasn't afraid to get weird

>>717107391
>posts soulless washed out portable version
one job, retard

can someone gimme the qrd on Wonder? i never heard anything about it other than saw it got high scores.

>remove all soul possible

>>717107727
bowser looks better imho, but all the smaller characters look way better with that outline and style.

>>717107261 (OP)
SOUL vs forced soul

>>717107687
>daisy elevated to main cast member after 30 years
>multiplayer focus means levels are mediocre on the whole
>music and art are good
>game doesn't really do much with its own gimmick of "constant reality bending gimmick levels"
>stole the bubble flower idea from a super mario world ROM hack

Execs wouldn't say that. They'd say "it's off-model, please fix it."

The select animations and advertisements in MKWorld make Wonder's forced soul look like a joke

>>717107727
>can you just move the camera a bit higher

>>717107524
Yea... but the mushroom mines were straight kino. My real wish is they top Mario 64 someday.

>>717107261 (OP)
This, this is not good, this is not great, this is not PERFECT.
I don't hear the remix of bruce faulconer when i look at it, it needs to make me hear that song to be the perfect mario.

>>717107727
Right is completely soulless except for Luigi having purple overalls, which is actually more soulful than left

>>717107524
>"shoehorning"
>multiplayer aspects are completely optional
?

>>717107727
This is one example I agree 100%, it's like someone literally went on the studio and said "make it look less fun"

>>717108690
>Mario jr

>>717108690
Miyamoto would carry this around with him 24/7 during the Mario mandate era

>>717108897
Level designs are really open and somewhat sparse to accommodate multiple players, even "cramped corridor" levels give you plenty of jumping room because they have to allow for people jumping over eachother.

>>717107391
didn't they have to remove this because of filesize limits with carts using the super fx

>>717108991
*pulls out perfect mario out of the pocket*
*use it as a literal measuring stick*

>>717107261 (OP)
Right looks better. When are you millenials get over the shitty cartoon aesthetic you liked when you were a kid?

>>717107391
>but the assets are already made sir. Why wo-
>*slams desk* I SAID REMOVE IT
Would be funny if this was the case, but I think the reality is that they only made the first world map and it took too long to scale for all the other worlds. The final result isn't so bad.

I'm still mad they didn't add black outlines in Wind Waker's HD remake.

>>717107261 (OP)
>The Mario Mandates are ov-ACK!!!

>>717109543
i gotta wonder what fucking monkeys decided wind waker needed more saturation and bloom

>>717109543
>what if we took WW's biggest stength (the artstyle), and completely ruin it?
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>>717109943
This is literally ONE effect.
Global indirect ambient light.
The "standard nintendo engine" has it, and nintendo just left it on because pixar or some shit.

>>717109943
This one I can understand because they were literally just fucking around with it trying to come up with a visual style for the new Zelda and they went "hey since we already scaled up WW might as well release it as a HD remaster"

>>717109943
the Wii U was the first hardware they had to be able to play around with HD effects so they went full HIRE THIS MAN mode and turned the bloom up to 3 trillion percent

>>717109543
I feel the same about Majora's mask, if they ever do a remake I hope they don't fuck this up

>>717108745
his overalls are purple on the left too

>>717108991
Doesn't sound like it'd be in-character for him to be the one pushing the mandate personally, at least knowing from how Pikmin is constantly changed and it's one of the series that receives his full attention.

>>717107727
Mario & Luigi is the worst subseries from Nintendo. Manchildren that experienced arrested development in 2004 are the only ones who like this failed abortion of a game.

>>717107727
I still don't know why the 3ds games got a higher camera angle, what did they just trace over 3d models for them?

>>717110390
Developers were capable of telling Nintendo to fuck off with the mandate too, Mario & Luigi did with Dream Team during the mandate years. New Super Mario Bros. was just easy to pump out and Tanabe was either too spineless to say "no" to Nintendo's marketing department or he completely agreed with the marketing department where Paper Mario was concerned, quite probably a little of both since he'd complain about the Mario mandate after every game released in interviews while simultaneously Color Splash (or Origami King, whichever) had that art gallery where you could see designs very in common with N64 and GC Paper Mario, or even referential to characters from those days, as their start point get scaled back into fucking Toads further down the concept sheet.

>>717107541
That's from the SNES beta you fucking retard

>>717109054
>even "cramped corridor" levels give you plenty of jumping room because they have to allow for people jumping over eachother.
Have you even played Wonder? Player collision was removed, dumbass. the only time you can interact with people in MP is if someone's playing Yoshi.

are they making up shit just to shit on wonder since the forced soul discord meme

>>717109943
>Adds "DARK POCKETS" of water when it used to be clean
Breath of the Wild has a similarly cluttered and busy look. The same art-dude has been in charge since Skyward Sword, by the way.

>>717110802
>The SNES beta shares the same palette as the GBA port!
sure!

>>717109943
I'm going to be playing Wind Waker soon, should I just emulate the original? Isn't there QoL stuff added in the HD Remaster, or does that not matter as much as people say it does? I would prefer playing with the original graphics if I can.

>>717111441
I think you can mod the qol shit into the original disc but I haven't been able to do it myself

>>717110182
the 3ds remake was a fucking travesty
that terrible thumbnail man despite being obnoxious is 100% correct in his disdain. I'm even more upset because I bought the damn thing instead of pirating like I could have done

>>717110925
so then why are level designs really open and aren't exciting if it's not for multiplayer, that makes me think player collision off was decided later in dev

>>717110412
Seething paperfag

>>717111357
Those are literally direct spriterips from the 2020 gigaleak you dumbass
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Super_Mario_World_2:_Yoshi%27s_Island/ys_romX_0/World_1

>>717111956
>>717111357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGYV6XS-07I