Question: is this an actual Otherworld already real like a anime Isekai or are we talking about a Pokemon 3rd movie where this is different but it's all an illusion? Is it not real you are the princess or you're powerful Guardians not really bad but an illusion created by some Magical Force making it all fake?
>>717113326 (OP)Well Ivalice is a real world in the FF setting that is also shared by other games, but the Ivalice in FFTA specifically is an illusion and not real. It's dumb
I suggest you play the game.
Spoiler:
You can *farts* huff that
>>717113849It was in a book though so it's real somewhere.
What if Marche's world was the illusion and Newt broke the matrix to be in the real FF world?
>>717113326 (OP)we need games that double down on escapism just being based instead of saying its dangerous because erm youre supposed to be suffering in the shitty real world!
>>717113326 (OP)>Pokemon 3rd movie where this is different but it's all an illusionExactly this, down to the person powering the dream having a dead mom
>>717113326 (OP)It's an illusion that overwrote reality through the power of a magic book, FFTA gets memed about a lot because ultimately it just expects you to accept that illusions are bad even though there isn't really anything distinguishing it from reality.
>>717113849What about in Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift?
>>717114082You fuckers have an entire anime genre for that
>>717114420Being transported to a different world because you're the chosen one or lucky or unlucky on number of things but it's not the same thing as I'm creating an illusionary world to fulfill all my desires and both of those things are extremely different than sitting down for an hour playing a video game doing stuff at the average mentally healthy person no isn't actually real and you can't go around jumping on Turtles. old time in the world. Did you ever see the 3ed Pokémon movie? You can't just live in some sort of dream world .
>>717114150While not bought up in story the idea of a mentality unwell kid controlling the world is horrifying.
>>717114794It is brought up NPCs bitch about Mewt in the story because he starts adding more and more laws like a control freak.
Of course they don't even get to exist unless Mewt is in charge, the ungrateful pissants.
AI Copilot.
Sure! Here's a summary of the key points from the 4chan thread discussing Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (FFTA):
Illusion vs Reality in FFTA
Ivalice in FFTA is depicted as an illusion created by a magical book rather than a “real” world.
Some users compare the concept to the 3rd Pokémon movie, where a dream world is powered by emotion and loss.
There's debate about whether escapist fantasies should be embraced or rejected—FFTA criticizes them, but some posters feel that’s too dismissive.
Philosophical & Narrative Themes
The game explores how escapism and illusion can overwrite reality.
Comments suggest this world may be comforting or preferable to harsh reality, challenging the idea that choosing it is “wrong.”
Mixed Opinions on Storytelling
One user suggests Marche’s real world might be the illusion instead.
The morality of rejecting fantasy worlds is questioned, with critiques on FFTA’s “illusions are bad” stance.
NPCs in the game react negatively to Mewt’s control over the illusion, hinting at psychological implications.
It’s a thoughtful, chaotic thread diving into how video games deal with fantasy, control, and emotional escape. Want to explore other games that tackle similar themes?
>>717114420isekai fucking sucks lmfao
>>717115551its power fantasy nonsense and thats not what i want. i just want a better world. isekai are often worse worlds btw too.
>>717115895>kys What is that supposed to mean?
>>717115469Your forgetting people getting plot points wrong/mis remembering them and the anons who think the book was evil and taking souls in original Japanese.
>>717113849Well, Marche's real world is St. Ivalice, which is just Ivalice in the far future. So it's an illusion based on his own world's past.
>>717114270>>717118485While FFTA2 is just straight up time travel to actual past Ivalice.
>>717118595 And what about the upcoming topics game in a few months? Is that connected to those two?
>>717120632>>717118595FINAL FANTASY TACTICS - The Ivalice Chronicles – Story Trailer – Nintendo Switch 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMx8pAVmIcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V75QMC3T8yA
Incarnation was a great final boss theme and I wish it had an official arrangement of some sort.
>>717115469that's a lot of text, can you get ai to summarize it for you before posting?
>>717113326 (OP)I think it's funnier for Marche to be wrong about Ivalice being a fake and trying to destroy it because the denizens have a terrible case proving to a literal kid they haven't all devolved into caricatures of people after generations of political psychosis.
>>717120632>>717120778og FFT is just Ivalice. Long after FFXII (and FFTA2's past) and well before FFTA and FFTA's present.
>>717114028It wasn't "in the book". It was created by Li-Grim through Newt's wish. Presumably Li-Grim is in the book, but not the fake ivalice.
>>717118485>Marche's real world is St. Ivalice, which is just Ivalice in the far futureSource? Genuinely curious.
>>717114993no, it literally takes people from real life and throws them there. it converts the real world. iirc some of the school bullies even become shitty monsters/animals/peasants and whatnot
FFXII - the distant past. Advanced civilizations with flying warships and many races.
Revenant Wings - direct sequel to FFXII.
FFTA2 - the past parts of the game are set after revenant wings and ffxii characters appear.
FFT - Set long after that time period. Seemingly some kind of apocalypse happened and civilization collapsed and regressed. A thoroughly medieval civilization with advanced relics of the past like robots and airships buried in the ground. Many races apparently went extinct.
FFTA and FFTA2 - the far future. A modern world with schools, hospitals, and libraries.
