Thread 717115242

Kino

>final faggotry
>kino
pick one

Man, FF8 really was close to becoming my favorite FF, but god damn does the story fall off in the second disc and completely collapse in the 3rd.

>>717116818
yup, a lot of amazing setup but very poor delivery

>>717117149
It's such a shame. Also, I think people unfairly shit on Squall when he makes for a good protag. Liked him a lot more than Zidane.

>>717115307
Stay mad, fatlus tranny.

At its time, it was a pretty extraordinary feat. The previous couple of FF's established Odin as one of the top endgame summons and here you have a single human cleaving him in two with one strike.
WITHOUT a GF equipped.

>>717117587
People can’t into subtly. If anything, 8 respected people’s intelligence too much.

I also feel the story was fine all around, but you can tell the game the game was rushed round about the point you hit Esthar. It’s pretty obvious there were some issues behind the scenes that led to a rushed conclusion. Ultimecia’s Castle, the final battle and ending were all great though.

>>717118180
Doesn't he get killed by Gilgamesh?

>>717115242 (OP)
Completely undeserved. Seifer is like Strega levels of incompetent as a boss. Ultimecia and the Sorceresses are Squall's nemesis not this joker.

>>717118180
VIII lore implies that he’d HAVE to had a GF equipped. He came from Balamb and can use spells.

>>717118230
>People can’t into subtly. If anything, 8 respected people’s intelligence too much.
It's been confirmed that FF8's development was fucked by the Spirits Within movie. They rushed the entire second half of the game. You can like the game all you want, but people's hate for it is entirely justified.

>>717115242 (OP)
*steals ur GF for the penultimate boss fight*
*vanishes completely until the credits*
FF8 was weird

>>717118354
He's not a SeeD and his memory wasn't messed up from GF use.

>>717118180
>>717118354
he had a real ass sorceress feeding him magic

>>717117587
both cloud and squall are mentally ill loners who complain an awful lot for being handsome, powerful and with multiple women into them, only cloud has an entire disk about unmaking and rebuilding him while squall just kind of gets rewarded for his solitary lion larp bullshit because people like him for no real reason and then his magic plot device half sister lets him save the world with no real hassle on his part. the story of ff8 is so saccarine with its disney pop song spaceship scene with squall and rinoa that people make up elaborate headcanons like squall is dead or R=U to make the story have an actual depth at all instead of cool chunni literally me self insert gets bitches and saves the day while acting like the average antisocial otaku does irl.

its equivilent to shit like trails of cold steel only without voice acting

>>717118513
But even before his possession, his limit break allows him to shoot fire spells.

>>717118448
>Penultimate

There are several boss fights between Adell and Ultimecia

>>717118649
he has a gun

FF8 has the best OST and coolest cutscenes / story pieces, really the peak of squaresoft

>>717116818
Just take the R=U pill

I honestly fucking hate when the super cool dude in armor is killed by an average ass dude.

>>717115242 (OP)
What a fool he is. Odin is a gf. How can you kill a gf? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could he be so naive?

>>717118348
Seifer is excellent as a combatant (to the point that he can carry you through most of the Dollet mission), he’s just extremely immature and a terrible leader— Unlike Squall, who’s an actually good leader.

>>717118647
Brainlet take. Squall is liked because he’s a decent guy who cares about people, but he’s scared to grow attached to people because that hurt him in the past. His whole arc is about him gaining confidence and learning to actually trust people again.

He’s a 17 year old who had to grow up fast, and that shows, because even in the early game, his reflections show a lot of maturity.

>>717118180
>that feel when no gf

>>717115242 (OP)
Seifer was a bitch.

>>717119182
>Seifer is excellent as a combatant

Seifer is weaker than the regular enemies in Lunar Pandora

>>717118308
Yes. Many people completely miss the end of the summon showing gilgameshs sword boomeranging back to the sky. It's implied that he's bonded with Seifer the way Odin bonds with the player so it's actually him protecting Seifer from Odin.

How were monsters from the moon??? Why were monsters from the moon??????

>>717119404
I’m guessing Seifer was made slightly easier because you fight Adel almost immediately after. Plus, I feel as though his Galbadia Garden fights are his definitive fights. The Pandora fight is practically a victory lap. Especially since having Odin basically skips the fight entirely.

>>717118647
Squall was an orphan who spent his entire life in a military school. He didn't exactly have a normal childhood, and if anyone can act like an antisocial weirdo then it's him. And the game spends plenty of time criticizing his behavior anyway, and he eventually matures by the end. People like you don't understand character arcs and instead expect all characters to be stupid fucking turbonormies at all times.

>>717119542
They were linked with Adel.

>>717118180
I think the last legendary feat before seifer vs odin was when sabin flipped the train

>>717119804
>People like you
Cool it with the anti-brown sentiment.

>>717118354
Non-GF magic exists too. Seifer can use his limit break which includes a fireball regardless of whether you give him a GF or not. If I remember correctly it's stated somewhere that he does it through Chi or something. Other examples of non-GF magic is magic used by witches (see: Edea's limit break) and magic used by monsters.

>>717121686
How come the Galbadian Soldiers can cast magic?

>>717115242 (OP)
based ff8 enjoyer

>>717122331
They use para-magic (artificial magic), which is the same as the SEED use, but they junction it to their weapons instead of GFs.

>>717115242 (OP)
>level up to 100
>think the game is going to get harder and bring its most challenging content
>the "superbosses" are easier than playing at level 1
oops, trolled myself. I accidently assumed it would be anything like SaGa game if I pushed the stats.
At least I didn't waste my time doing the Queen of Cards quest, like god damn

Ultimecia womb tattoo tho

>>717116818
The story is probably one of the worst stories in all of Final Fantasy mainline. Them being all friends from an orphanage and completely forget about everything is fucking pants head retarded.

>>717122864
Filtered

>>717118390
>Spirits Within
It's insane how damaging that movie and it's an okay movie on its own; at least for cgi anime standards.

>>717122864
Is it really that much of an issue? It ties into the whole “children of fate” theme the game goes for. The GF explanation is also plausible. At worst, I’d say the biggest flaw of it is that they don’t do more with the concept and the implications of it.

I can honestly say that FF8 is the greatest love story ever written

>>717123076
when it comes to Final Fantasy love stories, it's kind of a tie between Squall x Rinoa and Tidus x Yuna
the latter has an advantage for having a more finished game while also being a slower burn

>>717122968
It’s a cautionary tale of hubris and why you shouldn’t put all your eggs in one basket. EVERY Square project released during the Spirits Within’s development was kneecapped by it in some way. VIII being rushed towards the end, and Xenogears’ infamous second disc being the biggest examples.

Square was arguably the original movie game company that tried to make it big in Hollywood as well as vidya. As much as people laud Sakaguchi, the man had a massive ego. More so than pretty much any other Square director. He was like the Neil Druckmann of his time, albeit more talented.

>>717122848
i dont understand why people made such a big fuss over level scaling. all difficulty is tossed aside as soon as you get a basic grasp of junctioning. you dont even have to draw shit, gf abilities refine items into op magic

>>717123252
I really don’t feel there’s too much competition, as VIII and X are the only games in the series with a particularly strong romantic focus.

IV’s romance? Present, but simplistic and not a huge part of the story.

VI’s romance? Locke and Celes only get two or three scenes that imply any sort of romantic tension, and the romance arc between them isn’t even concluded unless you go out of your way to find Locke in WoR (who is the hardest character to find again by far).

VII’s romance? It’s left open to interpretation whether anything romantic was going on between Cloud, Aerith or Tifa. Definitely not a big part of the story.


VIII was the first time in an FF game where the romance took centre stage.

>>717123896
Because people are too dumb to read and understand the system. VIII’s system is admittedly quite unconventional and it takes a bit of adjusting to before you can attain mastery of it. Some people don’t have the patience for that— Especially since FF’s fanbase is largely casual gamers.

Tl;dr it’s a skill issue.