Thread 717166842

not all videogames are art
but videogames can be art

Any video game that has ever tried to be 'art' is dogshit
Vidya is at its best when it just tries to be fun. Even supposedly 'art' video games never set out to be statements of art

>>717166842 (OP)
the engine is the canvas and every single developer is an artist, simple as.

>>717166937
anon why do you think art can't be fun

>>717167012
>Fifa
not art
>Metal Gear Rising
art

>>717166842 (OP)
games are things you play, you don't play art
play is far more primordial and important than art though, even animals play

>>717167669
What about plays? Are they art?

>>717167802
theater is art yeah

>>717167832
But people play in plays and you don't play art.
That obviously means plays are not art.

>>717167953
actors act in theater, the audience doesn't act to experience the play, the gallery doesn't paint to experience a painting, where as to experience a game you must play it
are you retarded?

>>717168069
Yes, but at least I'm not alone with that.

>>717167669
The audience doesn't matter. How you experience it has no bearing on whether or not it is art.

>>717166842 (OP)
art is expression. when someone expresses themselves and their ideas through a video game, it becomes art. it's that simple and you should stop acting like a hippie.

>>717168293
it absolutely does, if we consider film art, then the process of editing, sitting for hours and hours in premier pro, is not what the audiences experiences
the final product is the art, not the process
with something like a theater play, its created on the fly but its there's still a "product" being presented to the audience in a one-way fashion, the audience does not get to experience what the actors experience when performing, so the idea that watching a theater play involves "playing" (acting in this case) and how that's comparable to the interactivity of playing a computer game is stupid
at best you could say that something like pantomime where there's audience interaction involves play

>>717166842 (OP)
I wish twitch would have aired another Ross marathon.

>>717167669
>you don't play art
what is music?

>>717167669
says who?

>>717166842 (OP)
I was at an art museum once and they had Soul Calibur on display as part of an exhibit on Japanese art.

>>717166842 (OP)
Everything is art and therefor nothing is art,
but, there's good art and bad art

>>717169149
>Soul Calibur
based breast enjoyers

>>717167669
why restrict the definition so autistically? there are performance art experiences that can involve the audience to at least some degree. That could be considered play in a much looser way, but why couldnt a video game be play and art simultaneously?
These things aren't polar opposites. Is Halo really so impossible to compare with Starship Troopers?