what would kreia have thought of luke?

She'd like him
Luke is a pretty pragmatic guy and since he's pretty much unfamiliar with the force and the jedi code, he would not feel bound by those rules which she would like

https://vocaroo.com/1iV9Uab9ywT9
Standard post.

>>717195869 (OP)
She'd get wet and dry hump his leg

>>717195869 (OP)
Imagine Kreia losing her shit as Luke tells her he's going to throw his life away by dueling Darth Vader before he has any real training because muh friends. She might have an aneurysm and die on the spot.

>>717196761
nah she'd like it
light side:
>noooo you must kill darth vader and the emperor to save your friends and the galaxy
dark side:
>noooo you must join darth vader and rule the galaxy
chad third way:
>I'm gonna free my father and defeat the emperor without killing anyone

>>717195869 (OP)
Probably love early Luke but embarrassed by Return of the Jedi. All sequel media miss the fact that Luke in ROTJ was a shit character. He wasn't some stoic Jedi badass, he was cosplaying as what he thinks he needed to be. He lost literally every single character trait he had in the third title, because he was purposely faking it. The sequel media assumes ROTJ was his actual character and ran with it. Jesus fuck Luke's appearances in Jedi Outcast had more character than later Luke.

>>717196761
She'd respect him telling the 8 century old dogmatic fuckup that was Yoda to sit and spin, though.

>>717196983
>>717196983
>>I'm gonna free my father and defeat the emperor without killing anyone

>>717197961
in the game, kreia does not like needless killing or cruelty
if you can achieve your objective without killing people, that's preferable to her

You will vote for Kreia for Queen /v/ right?

>>717198159
she also likes strong convictions, as long as you're not an idiot about it
after all she genuinely admires the exile for going back and facing the council rather than running away, even if that was objectively kind of a stupid move

I don't get any people who say she would like him. Luke is a goody two shoes and back when I was a teen and I played Kotor 2 I would also be a goody two shoes, which resulted in a loop of "Influence lost: kreia"

>>717197009
Early Luke is what Kreia would consider a naive retarded dreamer. Look at how he leaves Yoda and Obi-Wan to go to Bespin.
>don't do it Luke, you're not ready
>I have to help them, I can feel the Force!
>but you can't use it yet, the Empire is using your friends to set up a trap
>doesn't matter, I have to do it because it's the right thing to do
That kind of "I don't need a real reason, I have goodness on my side" is the kind of thing Kreia seethes about. And if Darth Vader wasn't his literal father, it would have ended in a swift and meaningless death.

>>717198963
I guess I see Early Luke as a source of entertainment, and watching him fail and break down will give her tons of opportunity to mold. ROTJ was stuck up his own ass and would probably attack Kreia on sight. That or dismiss her entirely.

>>717198906
Kreia ultimately respects LS Exile more than DS Exile

>*spanks Atris until she turns back to the Light Side*
>*Sith holocrons literally seethe*
>*refuses to elaborate, leaves for Malachor to beat up more evil women*

>>717201621
Is light side actually fun in KotOR2? It was so fucking awful in KotOR1 I've only ever played dark side in the games since

>>717198906
kreia blew my teenage mind back then. i think kotor2 was my first foray into ethics and philosophy. it felt like a mental awakening at the time.

What would Luke do here?

>>717203848
>bro you should have a reason for why you do things beyond "I want the blue points" or "I want the red points"
>wooaaaahhhhhhh

>>717204010

>>717195869 (OP)
>ANH
REEEEEEEEEEE
>ESB
Look down on him for going off to Yoda just because obi-wan said so, call him an idiot for rushing off to face vader, but respect the fact he didn't mindlessly obey Yoda and was clearly thinking about his actions
>RoTJ
Disapprove of relying so heavily on the force for his plan at Jabba's palace, though grudgingly admit sending in backup was a good idea. Cheer him on when he sticks to his guns in the face of Obi-Wan telling him he has to kill Vader, then have an orgasm on the spot when he tells Sidious, and by extension destiny, to eat shit

just thinking about it reminds me how much I fuckin Love Luke Skywalker as the archetypical Hero on the Journey.

>>717204427
him refusing Sidious and refusing to kill Vader was such a complete break of fate and destiny and the Sith and Jedi fued that its really quite something once we learned more of the setting.

>>717204819
>>717204427
Well ACTUALLY when Luke does that it's so ANAKIN can fulfill HIS destiny which was to destroy the Sith (himself and Palpatine)

>>717205054

>>717204819
>him refusing Sidious and refusing to kill Vader was such a complete break of fate and destiny
Literally causes Anakin Skywalker to fulfil his destiny as the chosen one

>>717204083
I want blue points and I want to be a nice guy. I know I will die a virgin because of it but that is the way I just am.

>>717205169
Use force, Luke. The man decides when it's time for sex.

>>717205134
>>717205054
the destiny would have been fulfilled if Luke killed Sidious in that moment as well.

Luke made a choice, there's no such thing as true fate, just what the Force desires, but it cannot control the future.

>>717205302
this guy thinks Luke Skywalker could have killed Darth Sidious lmao
Nobody could kill Darth Sidious. Darth Sidious died because he let down his guard as he enjoyed torturing his latest victim because in his arrogance, he didn't expect his whipped dog to stand up to him.
Nothing else in the entire galaxy could have killed Darth Sidious.

>>717205421
Luke at full power is much stronger than Sidious.

but yes, he could never have done it in that moment.

>>717196098
You are fucking disgusting

>>717204083
i also liked how she roasted the other companions.

>>717195869 (OP)
By default she'd like him more for being a post jedi order jedi that follows his own beliefs and intuitions, she wouldn't like a lot of things he did but she would still like him and see his potential, keep in mind she'd hate Anakin, Quigon, Vader, the emperor, Obi-wan, out of pretty much every Jedi and sith that's most popular in the series Luke would be her favorite.

>>717206179
A good deal of the Emperor's plan involved good old fashioned political subterfuge rather than utilizing his immense power in the Force. She'd probably think that was pretty cool.

>>717206179
Kreia would like Qui-Gon's willingness to disobey the Council but utterly despise him for buying into a Force Prophecy about a Chosen One who will magically end the Sith

>>717195869 (OP)
She would probably have approved of his actions in return of the jedi

>>717206431
Yeah well Qui-Gon was right so get dunked on, old witch wooooo

>>717206508
right because everyone acted on it.

the force is like a river, they went with the flow.

Why can't I just have a threesome with Handmaiden and Visas?

>>717206426
>rather than utilizing his immense power in the Force
I think it's the official novelization that says Palpatine was using some Sith ritual on shrine on Coruscant to cloud the Jedi's perception of him, which is why they never caught on to him despite him being on their doorstep for decades

Off the top of my head, the characters who she would actually like are
>Luke
>Kyle Katarn
>Zayne Carrick
>Darth Bane

>>717206710
and probably Luke's grandson Cade

and yea especially Zayne Carrick, what a great series of comics.

>>717202550
Light side Exile is a gigachad so righteous even the jedi council seethe about him.

>>717202550
Slightly more content/scenes than dark side towards the end i want to say but as far as things you do to earn light side points that's more or less the same. Will say light is/can be less cartoony good compared to how kotor1 is, partially cause of who most of your party members are and more ways of reacting on the players part

Is Kotor 1 ruined by knowing the twist? I just started it but I alreadt feel like I've built my character "wrong" given the reveal. Is the journey worth it? And do I need to play 1 before 2?

>>717206426
A lot of her hatred of the sith comes from their constant strings of conflict that serve the ultimate purpose of shaping the universe as unwitting tools of the force.

That even if the emperor managed to pull that off through practical means,he's ultimately a slave to the greater evil that the force represents.

Praising him for destroying the Jedi Council would be his only saving grace though.

>>717202550
>>717206995
I'll also add it has the better kreia scene with the council, that bit is so good compared to dark side

>>717207064
Twist can re-contextualize a lot of the early interactions so theres some fun in that Though really the game shows its hand pretty clearly multiple times imo but theres more to K1 than the twist, its still a fine ride overall. As for going into 2 without playing 1 you can do so but youll not understand a few things

Do they have pretzels on Tatooine?

>>717207275
>you can do so but youll not understand a few things
I think 1 is essential just for the sake of how much shit in the 2 revolves around the fallout of the Jedi Civil war, which 1 revolves around.

>>717203848
I don't think people appreciate just how much even a bit of thoughtfulness in video games can affect young players.

>>717205110
That tag 'the creature stares at you' should be attached to this picture >>717205054

>>717205421
But he didn't kill Darth Sideous, didn't you watch the sequels? The Emperor returned.

>>717207732

>>717196098
this
horny hag

>>717207064
>do I need to play 1 before 2
Well not exactly since the stories are largely seperate, but there are some returning characters. Plus everyone in 2 talks about Revan all the fucking time so it hits better if you have some connection to him.

>>717207467
Weak. Revan understood snacks.

Kreia doesn't like anyone. Have you ever stopped and thought about why anyone should even care about her approval? Something being rare doesn't mean it is valuable.

>>717206710
>Zayne Carrick
She'd respect Haazen for deliberately trying to put himself outside the Light/Dark dichotomy but look down on him for being a Sith artifact hoarding chump and for his motivation being so goddamn petty.
She's appreciate Lucien making a secret Jedi cult away from the Order but laugh at how easily manipulated he was and his obsession with his mother who never really loved him.
She'd hate the rest of the Covenant for not just trying to make the Force dictate what they do but being so hyperfixated on what they want to be true they don't stop to examine what they're shown.
She'd respect Chantique's hustle but not her petty sadism.
She'd think Demagol was a fucking idiot.

>>717207467
No. They only have bantha cookies and blue milk.

>>717206906
She'd respect Cade for doing his own thing but call him a retard for all the retarded things he does

>>717207914
When I think about it kreia is like pussy and players are like incels. Except kreia is 80 years old so what the fuck are you people doing chasing that.

>>717208228
Hag cunny erotic

>>717204691
Same. Even when he subverts it (Losing to the Empire on Hoth, getting curbstomped by Vader on Bespin, refusing to kill Vader on the second Death Star, etc.) it's done in such a wonderful way that it makes me prefer his journey as opposed to the more standard ones. Also this track is THE quintessential call to action piece in any media ever made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Qbbyc1eLc

>>717204691
It's pretty funny how ANH Luke was unironically considering becoming a Stormtrooper if it meant getting out of the godforsaken planet-sized ghetto that is Tattooine.

>>717209129
It's doubtful Luke was planning to stick around considering the deleted scene with Biggs where he told him about how he went awol to join the Rebellion

>>717209124
Why can't movies be this soulful any more?

>>717206710
>Kyle the Hedgehog
he's so much of an OC donut steel you could say he is the Force
so she would hate him, easily

>>717209815
because movies are made strictly to reach big audiences, namely China, and are thus purely financial endeavors, more so than any time in history.

Gaming is the only place where any sort of artistic merit in the mediums will exist going forward, and only in small glimmers here and there.

>>717210151
may want to go back to the drawing board with that one, fren. I get where you were going, but it just doesn't work.

>>717209124
I mean there's a reason Star Wars caught the zeitgiest of all the young men at that time, and even still anyone who see's those old movies to this day.

its quintessential story of a hero from nothing just like "you and me" off to the stars to save the Princess and defeat the villain, Luke Skywalker is all young boys and all young boys dream of being Luke Skywalker in some ways.

>>717207064
the twist is the only thing holding the plot together, because it's seriously way too stupid to stand on its own without the
>le final boss is... le you
reveal, but the game is still pretty fun and feels like a half-decent star wars fanfic

>>717209815
The child molesting Jews that run Hollywood now are too unwilling to take the risks for uncertain projects with actual soul because they're all beholden to shareholders in their multi-billion dollar media empires, so they only churn out the most uninspired slop imaginable. We'll never get anything as soulful as what Lucas himself put out, flawed as it may be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqfRw197tk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbAVXR49Zic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wMiMDBHnJ0

>>717204427
>>717204819
luke telling sidious to fuck off is even more kino when you realize that sidious inadvertently knights luke
he's the only one in the movie to call luke a jedi and actually mean it in that scene
every other time it was either telling luke he isn't one yet, disbelieving, or mockingly

>>717210626
what's funny is some Anime still has that "feel", its probably why Demon Slayer did so well at the Theater, it feels like a Demon/Vampire hunting version of Luke, off to save the day, in many ways.

>>717210739
>inadvertently knights luke
He went back to train with Yoda after ESB and left because he's as much as Knight as it's possible to be without the Order and a lifetime of service.

>>717211052
both yoda and obi wan tell luke he isn't a proper jedi until he deals with vader in rotj
vader tells him that he's skilled enough, but doesn't say if he thinks luke is a proper jedi or not
sidious mockingly calls him one a number of times, but after luke tells him to fuck off after beating vader, sidious calls luke a jedi with all the venom he can muster and genuinely means it

>>717211052
The most he gets from Yoda is a position by default.
>when gone am I, the last of the Jedi you will be
Palpatine is the one who recognises that he's earned it

>>717211497
Disney and Filoni sure have raped that line.

>>717211591
Bro it wasn't even true in RotJ
>that boy is our last hope
>no, there is another

>>717211497
>>717211591
well its now completely and totally not true, which thematically takes the air out of it.

Tons are fucking galavanting around at the moment Yoda says that line.

>>717210802
There is definitely more soul in anime than there is in Western media. (There are exceptions of course, like the sea of generic isekai currently floating around) I think this has to do with how the story of an anime or manga is at the (mostly, depending on the publisher/producer) full discretion of the director or author, similar to Lucas and Star Wars now that I think about it. Both for originals and adaptions, there seems to be the sense that this is the director/author's story, not a boardroom's. The adaption process for manga and how it's basically a trial-run to gauge the popularity of the story for an actual anime also helps get more unique stories out on screens.

>>717211709
https://youtu.be/6Vg_WKE9R2Y?si=FIbLrbkW1ZJtKQYW
Sorry kid they never made a movie after 1983. Star Wars is the perfect trilogy. I don't care about some gay fanfics.

>>717211683
That was talking about a potential recruit, not an actual Jedi.
Disney has multiple actual Jedi running around, some of which Yoda is aware of.
I get that it was also a problem in the EU, but at the very least the jedi in question had given up or fallen, making it understandable Yoda had written them off.
>b-but technically Ahsoka isn't a Jed-
anyone who sincerely takes that line as an excuse for her doing fuck all deserves everything disney has brought upon them

Say it

>>717211952
"Jedi" in this context is any good Force Sensitive who could and would kill Vader and Palpatine. If Luke fucks up then nobody is left to train Leia but she'd go through with it if she got visited by Luke's ghost saying she was special.

>the Exile
>he

>>717211952
iirc in the eu order 66 and the great jedi purge actually nearly destroyed the jedi
iirc there were only about 50 left by the time of anh and only obi wan and yoda were willing to do anything, because of luke
50 sounds like a lot but according to one of the prequel visual dictionaries there were about 10,000 at the time of tpm

>>717211875
The Prequels are better. The main value of the OT is seeing the conclusion of Anakin Skywalker's journey.

>>717212873
>according to one of the prequel visual dictionaries there were about 10,000 at the time of tpm
citation?
i'm pretty sure 10,000 was at the height of the Jedi Order's power around 3000-4000 BBY (KOTOR era)

>>717210151
>so she would hate him, easily
Not really.
>great pilot
>expert with all kinds of weapons, including lightsaber
>gave up the Force willingly
>doesn't bind himself with irrelevant ancient dogmas and rules of the Jedi Order
god I miss Kyle Katarn

>>717213010
>KOTOR era
You mean TOTJ era. The Sith War a few decades prior to Kotor 1 is when it all starts to go badly wrong for the Jedi Order.

>>717213347
Sure, although TotJ is a part of the Old Republic era so technically the point still stands

>>717209815
Hollywood is full nepotist. You do not get your script read if you don't know somebody. It's a horrible beast that eats where it shits.

>so I told the cabal to follow this fake prophecy and they actually did it, the absolute madmen!

what order should i watch the films in? i never saw them as a kid.

>>717213871
Production order.
That being said, I rewatched them in chronological order a while ago and it was fine.

>>717213871
Release order.

>>717210626
https://youtu.be/d0pymNngEw8?si=ZbEWd3UVSmOKYJpi

>>717213969
>>717213971
that's what i figured and what i was planning to do, but you know how some series are. thanks.

>>717211396
Actually, Han, Chewie and I think Leia all refer to Luke as an actual Jedi in RotJ. Now you can make the argument that none of them (Except maybe Chewie but that's honestly a retcon) would know what it really means to be a Jedi so it doesn't count. However, I like the idea that the only people who believed in Luke to be a Jedi were his friends, the people he risked everything to protect time and time again.

>>717214247
None of them would know what a jedi really was. Luke is just a skilled and lucky guy to them. DESU one of the biggest flaws of the prequels is how soon they are compared to the original trilogy. There is no way people would forget what a jedi was in just 30-40 years.

>>717206710
This

>>717214452
>30-40 years
Luke was conceived before the end of the Republic, born after the Jedi Order fell and is only 19 in ANH

>>717207914
This

>>717214629
Shit you're right, it's even worse. I was purely thinking how much older Obi wan and vader look lol.

>>717208228
>Except kreia is 80 years old
If the Kreia = Arren Kae theory is true that would make her ~51-55yo at most

>>717214452
>There is no way people would forget what a jedi was in just 30-40 years.
Most people in the Galaxy never seen a Jedi in their lives and treated them like some kind of a folk legend

what exactly is wrong with the light side?

>>717204274
Luke using force choke is sick

>>717214452
I was under the impression that an average person would be aware of the Jedi as a relatively small (on a galactic scale) group of essentially space cop monks who fought in the Clone Wars but not necessarily believe that they have magic powers. Twenty years of the government trying to scrub them, and the situation in the OT seems reasonable. No reason to talk about them, essentially an old branch of the government shut down.

>>717214993
Nothing. Light side is the natural state if the Force and Dark Side is a cancerous tumor

>>717214452
>There is no way people would forget what a jedi was in just 30-40 years
They didn't. There was a deleted scene in ANH where Luke's squad leader tells him about how he meet Anakin as a kid.

Never finished Kotor II and I'm replaying it for the third time in my life planning to actually finish it sometime.
For some reason I just got burnt out after doing a few of the post-Telos planets.

But man
with adult eyes, and after all the political faggotry post-2016
I never realized how redpilled this game was. And not in the way I expected.
I don't think it's as deep as people think it is philosophically, it's kinda just some entry level Nietzsche imo.

But
>Exile fought in the Mandalorian wars with Revan
>civilians will say things like "if Revan had't won we'd be speaking Mandalorian right now (obvs. a play on the "if Axis won WW2, we'd be speaking German right now"
>the Jedi punished the Exile for participating in the Mandalorian wars, because it was an act of passion that led him to the dark side
>so if we follow the allegory, this is basically the game chastising Americans for participating in WW2
>until Pearl Harbor, most of the country held a non-interventionist view of the war: that America shouldn't have gotten involved, just like how the Jedi regard the Mandalorian war
skipping ahead a bit
>Onderon: you have the option to either have Onderon integrate into the Republic (light side choice) or essentially become Nationalist and isolationist (Dark Side choice)
>however, at the end of the game (and I had this spoiled for me), Kreia reveals that if Onderon integrates with the Republic (globohomo) they eventually lose their own culture and just become another Republic vassal state, where if you push them towards isolationism they keep their own culture and identity
I'm sure there's more. I'm only barely into this third playthrough.
But it's kind of shocking and refreshing to play a game this ... daring.
Of course I guess it goes over most peoples heads, because you play this shit when you're twelve and think "it's just Star Wars"

>>717215507
Economy stagnating? Decisions made decades ago, excessive wars and the conflicts emanating from rule of a small religious minority causing indisputable decline on a broad front?
The entire world being gripped by a malaise of the body and soul with no way out, only dark days ahead?

KOTOR2 wasn't just coherent; you're living in it right now, and that's why I honestly prefer KOTOR1 nowadays.

>>717215207
This. At their height, (Which may have not even ben the Clone Wars) the Jedi only numbered at 10,000 in a galaxy of thousands, if not millions, on inhabited worlds. Even with the Clone Wars being a galactic conflict, only a fraction of the population would have even been on the same planet as a Jedi. That coupled with the Empire actively trying to erase and rewrite their presence in galactic history, it makes perfect sense why the average joe wouldn't be talking about Jedi by the time of the OT.

>>717214881
The Jedi Order had its headquarters on the capital planet of the Republic, Jedi became the de facto generals of the Republic in the largest war in the galaxy in centuries and then they were exterminated for trying to take over the Republic and assassinate the Supreme Chancellor, paving the way for the formation of the Empire.

It's one thing that people had never seen one before but to have never heard of them is a whole other matter.

>>717215037
He uses force lightning in the old EU too.

>>717215780
>>717215207
>Palpatine: This war can only be won by the Jedi, who have been trying to shirk their duty, so I made them the leaders of our Republic armies!
>Also Palpatine: Oh those nasty Jedi were trying to take over! I have no choice but to kill the Republic off and make an Empire, all because of those Jedi rabble rousers!
>Palpatine, Again: Jedi? What's that? Stop talking about Jedi, they're not real

Maybe he shouldn't have forced them into the galactic spotlight and then used them as the scapegoat for massive political upheaval before trying to remove them from history

>>717216053
EU is fucking gay and stupid.

>>717215756
When I first played Kotor II it was the Xbox version. I never touched Kotor 1 until a few years ago.
Frankly I hated it. There's something frankly kind of cursed about Star Wars' system of morality.
Just on a visual level, if you make choices out of self interest and to exercise your own personal power, your character becomes sickly looking, corpse-like and grotesque. Where if you be a passive sheep-like peace cuck you start to look more healthy and heroic.
This is the very opposite of the aesthetics of a culture like ancient Greece or Rome, where personal strength, power, wisdom (including ruthless wisdom), health, and aesthetics, were all considered close to the gods.

So I hate Kotor 1 - at least for its story.
Kotor II is still kinda cucked by its "Star Wars-ness" morally speaking, and its light/dark side morality system, but it sure is a lot more interesting. At least so far.

>>717210739
>You've failed, Your Highness. I am a Jedi... Like my father before me.
>So be it, Jedi.
Most Star Wars media is total dogass but this exchange is one of my favorite moments in any movie. The double-meaning of it all, the pure heroism in Luke's words, the culmination of his entire arc, and then the most evil man to ever live begrudgingly honoring Luke because he realizes that he is, indeed, the most worthy Jedi he's ever faced (and the only one that's ever been able to push through the manipulation and foil Palpatine's plans).
It's also got further heroism because he's saying that Vader is still a Jedi, still worthy of being saved, and it's that love and desire to save his father that makes him able to overcome the Emperor. Kreia would probably like Luke because he ignored dogmatism and the Jedi Order/Code to fight for what he personally thought was right and for what he loved.

>>717216483
incorrect
It had some gay shit, but much more epic shit

What did Luke do in the EU that makes youtubers now rank him up with Exar Kun and other high profiles?

>>717217224
NJO and Legacy eras basically went full shounenshit with Luke's powers.

>>717206970
>>717206995
>>717207275
Thanks anons. I guess I'll try to do a light side KotOR2 run at some point then

>>717217224
Are you talking power levels? He gets huge power ups during the yuuzhan vong war. For most of the EU he was just a 7/10 mentor figure who interfaces with other characters, but the authors let him 'realize' he could use any aspect of the force, that there was no light or dark powers, just what you're using them for. So he was running around dual wielding and force lightning everywhere and killed the final big bad.

>>717216889
I mean the entire scene, from Duel of Vader and Luke to Anakin's death, is the absolutely height of the franchise.

Vader looking at Luke, his Son, and Palpatine, his cruel master was such a masterstroke back in the day.

>>717218036
>go my son, leave me.
>no. you're coming with me. I can't leave you here, I've got to save you!
>you already have, Luke.
:')

>>717216889
She would still despise him for being a heroic and hopeful figure who believed in a binary good and evil morality.

>>717218810
she doesn't hate good and evil moralities, tardass.

they are intrinsic, you can't escape them, all you can do is redefine what good and evil is to you.

>>717195869 (OP)
"he cute"

>>717219057
irrelevant. He is an altruistic and righteous figure and that alone is enough for her to despise him.

KOTOR is Star Wars for people who don't actually like Star Wars

>>717212605
I'm going to put a little gun in jar-jar's little hand

>>717215314
correct

>>717214738
funnily enough alec guinness' age when filming anh is pretty close to how old obi wan would be in universe, give or take a couple years
vader only being 43-45 is pretty crazy though

>>717218810
You can't really say Luke believed in binary good and evil morality when he refused to kill the fascist cyborg wizard with a three-digit body-count. There's a clear difference between Luke and guys like this

>>717215507
>HK theorizing that Malachor was as much a purge as it was a psychological weapon as it was a way to end the war
>Atton revealing that he was a Sith SS officer
>Zez-Kai-Ell admitting that the Jedi as an entity are essentially failures simply on account of how devastating it is to the galaxy when Jedi fall, and they fall all the time
>Calling Atris a fucking pussy and telling her that going to war was the right call, full stop
>G0-T0 obsessing over stability and elaborating on how fragile a political machine as massive as the Republic actually is
>Half of the game is just exploring how devastating galaxy-wide conflicts are
I was fucking 10 years old when I played the game. For better or for worse, truly a formative experience.

>>717220159
Believing in the inherent but repressed goodness of his father that he was willing to risk his life for it is literally how the story depicts his belief in objective ironclad good and evil

>Luke says he's going to be a Jedi like his father
>Jedi say to destroy Vader, his father
>Sith say go destroy Vader, his father, and take his place
>Luke rejects all of these

>>717219057
She hates good and evil moralities because she was really, really bad at both and is salty and her pussy got cobwebs

>>717220159
Mr A is pretty based.

What would Kreia have thought of Jar Jar?

>>717223079
The same thing everyone thought about Jar Jar. That he's an idiot.

>>717195869 (OP)
What would Kreia think about RotJ Luke's outfit?

>>717223936
"Tight dude. Where do you keep getting these clean ass jumpsuits?"

>>717223936
she'd probably be cool with it
it doesn't look like the standard attire for the old jedi or sith, which is fitting because luke is ignoring the bullshit from the old order and staying true to his own values

>>717205054
This was a retarded retcon. The Chosen One shit remains some of the stupidest shit in all of Star Wars, and I say that including the EU and the ST. Just nonsense all the way through.

>>717216889
>he ignored dogmatism and the Jedi Order/Code to fight for what he personally thought was right
This is a bad reading of RotJ. It has nothing to do with dogma. Luke just had insight into a vulnerability of Vader's that Obi-Wan and Yoda could never have possessed, and events still didn't occur anywhere close to how Luke thought they would.

>>717224887
it's a simple read. obi wan and yoda had that information and told luke to give up on his father. he won by not doing that.

>>717206710
bindo too

>>717225096
Yes. Which has nothing to do with dogma or code or anything about the Jedi at large. RotJ even preemptively tries to nip that read in the bud by having Vader acknowledge that Obi-Wan once tried to reach Vader the same way Luke does, but the prequels fly in the face of that with the timing of everything.