Hold out Chads... we fucking won

Unlikely. They will find a way to repurpose 50 series GPUs for AI workstations

>>717215813 (OP)
>oversupply
i couldn't get a 5080 FE for my SFFPC so I downgraded hard to an Intel Arc B580 and it actually works fucking great lol
i'm done with the grifter and hope the AI bust kills them for good

>>717215813 (OP)
whoever wrote this was retarded. the company itself doesn't determine the shelf prices.

>>717216034
Ive lost 200k on this stock this week. If you could stop and buy the product best be great.

>>717216090
It's made by ai. Dunno if it's a shill campaign but there is another thread citing the exact same garbage article .
>>717214212

Someone explain the Nvidia GPU naming convention to me?

>>717216090
They can't control scalpers if demand is high but they have high control if demand is low.

>>717216504

The way it used to be is
>50
Poorest of poor
>60
Average-entry level, with the old 1060 and 3060 being particular workhorses
>70
Advanced
>80
High end
>90
Extremely high end

>>717215813 (OP)
>Obama Ur Rethra
yeah ok bro

I need a 5070 super in my life. Please jensen price it sensibly.

>>717215813 (OP)
Yep, gonna buy a 5070 (or Ti) later this year, the prices are steadily dropping.

>>717216504
The first 2 numbers are the generation of card. The last two are the model. In both cases higher is better but a high end old card can beat a low end new card in some cases. As I understand it production isn't perfect and the TI cards are the best of their respective models

>>717216504
>50
e-waste, exists to scam people
>60
e-waste, exists to scam people
>70
entry level
>80
mid tier
>90
high tier

>only the price on 8gb cards get a cut
>5070TI gets a price raise due to 'evolving marketplace conditions'

>>717217680
My 1060 still runs most modern games fine

>>717218304
Cope

>>717215813 (OP)
>claims insider

>>717215813 (OP)
This is bullshit. 5070Ti, 5080, and 5090 are selling above MSRP still and they are all on the Steam charts. Demand will rise for back to school for next month and then rise again when Windows 10 is discontinued.

>>717215813 (OP)
>MSRP adjusted
>gate kept memory remains
>here's $50 off of our "MSRP" $2000 model

>"we won"
[sign tapping starts]

What's an equivalent AMD cpu to go with a 5070ti? Asking for a friend

>>717215813 (OP)
Thanks, but I'm going AyyyMD with my Steam Arch (which I use, BTW) system.

Maybe next time NoVidya can be smarter and support Linux with less retarded pricing and drivers.

>>717218763
>AyyyMD
You are going to regret that kekw

>>717215813 (OP)
i just boughted.......................... nyo............

>>717218304
It doesn't you are only playing indie titles, and that was the old naming scheme the 60 tier got downgraded since then. The 5060 of today is like the 1050 of yesteryear.

>>717218304
Let me guess
1080p low settings

>>717216034
I plan on building an all intel linux build. Does the b580 do 4k at medium settings okay or is it strictly just a 1440p card? Also what processor are you using anon?

>>717219674
Not him but the b series are all 1080p cards. With intel seemingly moving away from gpus, I doubt there'll be a b7xx anytime soon that would have been more midrange cards.

>>717218304
anon, The Witcher 3 isn't a modern game anymore.

>>717215813 (OP)
>he le doesn't know
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

nvidia nuked the wccf article about this, it's gone

>>717218304
>my 1060 still runs games that i've been running since i got the card
ftfy. my 1070 wasn't able to keep up with modern games unless i wanted to play at console levels of 30fps 1080p

>>717218304
Can run anything not powered by UE5 fine*
Unfortunately that's 75% of new games lately. Robocop I can barely get 40fps at 'acceptable' settings without relying on FSR3 bullshit, which only makes it look blurrier.

>>717216504
The 5080 is mid tier, everything under is rebranded budget shit.

>>717220074
>all 1080p cards
So all the videos doing 1440p benchmarks are lies then? What?

>>717220996
5080 isn't worth the squeeze. It's 5070ti or 5090. The supers might be a different story though.

>>717215813 (OP)
fake and gay

>>717221529
They average decent but can run absolute garbage on some games at 1440p. It varies a lot.

>>717221926
not fake, nvidia took down the article but it did exist

>>717218304
No, it doesn't.

>>717218740
K6-III 500

>>717216259
200k in pesos doesn't add up to much, Juan.

>>717218547
>see? like 3% got the new series, that means it's successful
at least I know why none of you can trade or analyze market movements

>>717220194
>ukistan
not my problem

>>717216504
>5050
Literal trash, never touch this trash GPU
>5060
Still trash avoid such garbage
>5070
Start here if you dont want a scam
>5080
Here if you actually want a high end experience(terms and conditions apply)
>5090
literal richfag especially if you got one at launch

>>717222670
>Oh yes, let me go back to predicting markets. A video card released a few months ago already showing up on the Steam survey ahead of every AMD card has no connection to how well it is selling. I am so very smart.
You are fooling no one.

>>717223575
>Start here if you dont want a scam
12gb vram is a scam

>>717223606
it's been half a year and literally no one got it

>>717221654
Absolutely none of the cards are worth what they are charging. The 80 and 90 series least of all, that doesnt change the fact that they are the only cards above mid tier. even the super revisions are going to be shit because nvidia is in a never ending mission to expand and then degrade every category

>>717215813 (OP)
the super refresh will come with a price hike btw

>>717215813 (OP)
fuck this guy. I hope he gets violently murdered and dismembered.

>>717224401
every Njudean card is a price hike anon.

>>717216090
and shelf prices is influenced by...?

>>717223575
Anon, everything in nvidia's lineup is a scam.

>>717218740
Late reply
But get x3d
Even am4 x3d is great

>>717224401
jensen is never not hiking prices, nobody cares at this point.

>>717215813 (OP)
I'm just gonna buy amd instead

>>717224150
>Absolutely none of the cards are worth what they are charging.
They, objectively speaking, are.
>b-but I think they should be free
Yeah, but that's not how the world works.

>>717216504
The real way of looking at those names is that they don't matter.
You look at benchmarks, then you look at the price. Maybe look at power consumption too if you're a nerd who can think ahead. Only retards worry about if a 5060 should have actually been a 5050 or a 2070 or a 333ti.

>>717226379
They aren't. People not realizing they are getting garbage for inflated prices doesn't make the prices worth it. If they weren't allowed to lie in marketing and had to be honest with how garbage it all was people wouldn't pay as much.

>>717218672
>>gate kept memory remains
>>here's $50 off of our "MSRP" $2000 model
Go ahead and tell me that you need more than 32GB ram, you faggot.

>>717217680
>e-waste
techtube shill nonsense
The 60 series is better than any console released.

>>717223575
The 5070ti is only 15% slower than a 5080 but is significantly cheaper.
The 5080 IS a scam.

>>717226902
An nvidia employee responded to me? What an honor does jensen give you free personal bjs if you do well?

>>717221939
B580 and 9060xt only differ by like 12% at 1440p since the last major driver update for the b580.

>>717215813 (OP)
Translation: We will release a 5080 super card that is a worse version of the 5090. I want 5090 for 1080 ti prices otherwise fuck off jewvidia.

They recently got caught by China for putting killswitches and geolocators in their H20s.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVyIRxNzeBs
I'm not even going to bother with nvidia next gen, since I'm also switching to linux and amd should play nicer.

>>717222496
Pfft, like you have 11k to lose on the stockmarket. Even your joke is worth more thant you, kek!

what games even need these GPUs. I can run UE5 games on my 2070 at 1080 60fps (you don't need more)
the only time I've wanted a better GPU is for higher quality ai sloppa or maybe to run a LLM

>>717215927
Not enough VRAM outside the 5090

>>717227453
Good, fuck China.

>>717215813 (OP)
>Oversupply
Over supply of what? The paper the names of the cards was printed on? Invoices of empty pallets sent to store retailers? I know he can't be talking about the cards, unless he considers no demand for the 7 cards they sent retailers is "over supply."

>>717227606
>you don't need more
You don't need to play games, so why have a card capable of it at all?

>>717216090
>the company itself doesn't determine the shelf prices
It does give an MSRP, which is literally Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, but those are usually tossed if the store in question thinks it can sell whatever the product is for more.

>>717227818
Or in the case of less expensive items, lower it because stores want to undercut each other.

>>717225504
go ahead, it just works.

>>717227218
kek based

>>717227450
>Njudea*
ftfy weeb

>>717216259
i wish it was easier to short a single stock on my share portfolio app.

>>717215813 (OP)
im waiting for the 6080

>got a 4090 before the 5090 reveal where everyone realized they were scam cards and started jacking up prices

Overproduction is bad because it leads to dumping. Nvidia needs to cut their production down and raise their price

>>717228536
did you copy and paste that from a transcript of an Njudean internal conference call or something?

>>717215813 (OP)
nice this will make my new pc cheaper
idk if i wanna get a 9070 xt
or a nvidia botnet ai gpu

>>717216504
Meme GPUs
>5050
>5060
>5060 Ti 8GB
>5070
>5080

Overpriced GPUs
>5060 Ti 16GB
>5070 Ti
>5090

Speaking broadly
XY0 (Ti) (Super)
X = generation (bigger is newer)
Y = placement in stack by size of die (bigger is better)
Ti = placement half step up
Super = part of the generational refresh (near universally better than equivalent non-Super, usually released a year later)

As an example:
5070 Ti
50 = part of the 50 series
70 = the high end of mid range or the low end of high range, however you'd prefer to think of it
Ti = more powerful than the standard 70 (but still weaker than the 80)
no Super = part of the original release of the 50 series, likely to be phased out for a slightly faster Super version in the near future

>>717227936
Considering MRSP usually only is the cost the store is paying plus the price it costs to keep something on a shelf and a little extra, selling below MSRP is usually only a tactic to entice the people iinto buying other things while they're there that have a larger profit margin.

>>717230538
Best Buy in my home town was selling CDs in the mid 90s for like $8, while Turtles and all the others were charging $15-20. Best Buy is still around, while a lot of the others aren't.

>>717223786
only because modern devs are incapable of proper optimization, if you're not an AI gen fag then 12gb should be plenty. But yeah 12gb vram probably will be PS6's standard

>>717230713
That's because Best Buy was selling at razor thin margins. And while a lot of other businesses similar to Best Buy are gone, it isn't doing too well now either. They completely got rid of their physical media section (music and movies), and I think the main reason they're still around is because Geek Squad is the only computer repair place that normies know of.

Man I am fucking cursed I hold out prices go up I finally cave after 6 years prices go down fuck this bullshit I AM OFFICIALLY IN THE BELIEF THAT I AM A TARGETED INDIVIDUAL BEING GANG-STALKED BY NVIDIA

>on 1060
>built new PC around the time 4000 series was about to land
>"I'll just wait"
>4000 was 8gb-meme era without paying for a 4080
>"I'll just wait"
>4000 Super comes around, still bad value
>"I'll just keep waiting, surely 5000 won't be-"
>5000 launches at the worst value proposition yet, still 8gb meme on everything but the overpriced end of the cards
Part of me is glad I don't play much modern shit (thanks backlog), but jesus fuck I'd like to be able to run 1080/60 on some titles without it looking like a blurry mess due to TAA garbage assuming you're running 1440p+ to have more resolution to sample from.

>>717219325
The best looking newish games I’ve played on it were BG3 and Helldivers 2.
>>717219325
Usually medium settings. What’s wrong with 1080p? Looks fine to me.
>>717220754
>Can run anything not powered by UE5 fine
Don’t know why you’d want to play UE5 slop anyway.

>>717215813 (OP)
Bullshit. He rather destroy millions of GPUs by his own hands than lowering the prices.

>>717216504
ti means higher grade gpu but with dead cores.

Amazed they even still waste time making consumer GPUs.

>>717230938
Electronics and appliances will be their bread and butter. That's why they cleared the physical media floor space.

still waiting for decent ai models. it'll be swell if there's some goldilock zone where a good model releases at the same time as a good price gpu comes out right before the censor cucks hit ai devs.

>>717227693
>i freaking love monopolized markets!

>>717231480
>Don’t know why you’d want to play UE5 slop anyway.
I unfortunately enjoy playing The Finals due to how dynamic the combat is. It happens to be the most optimized UE5 game I've played though that engages Lumen, despite the sheer fucking destruction chaos that goes on in that relative to every other UE5 slop I've played being completely static.

>>717233018
This looks headache inducing

>>717233018
I'll just play the superior Oblivion Remaster, thanks.

>>717230965
because you're retarded and too poor to be pc gaming clearly. Anyone waiting over a year for any single component to be released is stupid.

>>717231428
>4000 Super comes around, still bad value
that was your big mistake right there. Sure, Njudea was bad value, but those gpus were fine performers and you had no valid excuse not to paypig for one other than buying AMD instead.

You deserve to suffer. A 1060? jesus, anything is better than that. A 5050 is a massive improvement.

>>717233785
Depends on whether or not people are spamming frag grenades, which isn't often.

>>717234260
Both the 4070 and 4070 Super (there was no 4060 Super for some reason) were atrociously priced in my country. If I should have done anything, it would have been grabbing the 12gb 3060 back around the time 4000 landed.

>>717217076
Let me fix this for you, junior.
>The way it used to be is
>50
>Poorest of poor
Destitude.
>60
>Average-entry level, with the old 1060 and 3060 being particular workhorses
Second biggest die.
>70
>Advanced
Still the biggest die aswell but rejected 80 class chips.
>80
>High end
Flapship. Biggest die. Slightly cut for yields not for market segmentation like nowadays
>90
>Extremely high end
Only reserved for dual GPUs

is amd worth it if you want to do goof around with AI?

I generally wait until a card has nearly or actually double the vram and performance as the card I currently have for a similar price before I even think about upgrading. Went from a Radeon 5770 to a Nvidia 960 after years of running it into the ground, waited nearly 10 years and got an 3060 Vision OC that has extra vram and rendering power for shit like blender. I'll wait until the 2030s and then I'll probably scoop up something with over 20gb of vram for about what I paid for this 3060. Honestly very happy with my upgrade curve and no games I play have really challenged the 3060 yet. No I will not buy new product and get excited about next product. Have had the same PC case since 2006. People getting excited to buy new GPUs and CPUs is why the market is like this. Have some restraint and maybe things won't be so fucking lame in the future

>>717234260
A 5050 is awful. With the 1060 you get shit performance. With the 5050 you get shit performance and at the cost of an entire new gpu. When all options are shit like gpus have been for years the only winning move is to not buy anything.

>>717234752
no

>>717234575
jewidia knew, for poorer countries the only choice is 5050/4060/5060 or it will break your bank
USD conversation + taxes are brutal

>>717215813 (OP)
>brother have me his $2.7k gaymen PC because he bought a newer $3000 gayermen PC

There was a time I was saving up for a 1080ti to play the hottest releases and here I am now playing RuneScape and StarCraft 1 and watching a YT video in the background

>>717215813 (OP)
>how dare those fucking gamers don't buy my cards? I've cut my precious ai accelerator supply to make their gimped cards so they would stop bitching and they still don't buy them!

>>717234752
Depends on what you mean by goof around

>>717236226
local diffusion and llm

>>717215813 (OP)
The 50 series is a straight downgrade unless you're using DLSS which looks like fucking dogshit. If you replaced a 40 series GPU with it you're a fucking retard.

Cool but where are the games that would actually make me want to upgrade? Seems like any game that runs like shit nowadays is moreso from devs doing a shit job rather than actual demand on the hardware. I have the money, I just dont see the value

>>717236563
I have a 4060 I got for dirt cheep back in the day still tho.

>>717236032
I'm honestly just hoping Intel doesn't axe their GPU division (despite mass layoffs) to keep lighting a potential fire under both AMD & nVidia's ass. Battlemage was a huge step up over Alchemist, but it needs more still on the compatibility and performance end.

Let me guess, you need more?

>>717236680
I'm saying stick with that instead of buying this scam

I went from a 1070 to a 5060 TI did I do good?

>>717236770
intel gpu being relevant is just not going to happen anytime soon
even amd are barely competing with jewvidia, and nobody wants to alpha testing for intel especially when they are not that much cheaper than green and red

>>717234752
It works but it is the dark souls of AI. a 7900XTX is about half as fast as a 4090 at flux image generation. WAN2.2 image to video is 6-10 minutes per generation with 800x360 original image size. I frequently run out of memory even with 24GB VRAM.

If you want to goof around with local AI exclusively then find the cheapest 3090 you can, next best bet is 4090. But beware Nvidia is fucking with CUDA and is actively trying to kill the 30 series for AI workloads because the 3090 is too good.

>>717237215
Wow them giving 3090 that much CUDA and VRAM really fucked their later releases that hard huh, makes sense though seeing as generative AI was in its bare infancy when that card released.

>>717237078
The 1050ti was 60% stronger than the ps4. The 5060ti is 60% stronger than the ps5. Didn't even mention if you got the 16gb version. In short: hell fucking no.

>>717237608
Obviously I got the 16gb version. Pure raster it wasn't worth it for me too. But SD took 1-2 mins on the 1070 and only 6 seconds on the 5060

>>717226653
With 32gb vram you can barely run shitty diluted deepseek model, retard.

>>717237742
It's not obvious. Someone asking after they had already fucked up if they had fucked up is very likely to have gotten the 8gb version.

>>717237812
the latest meta is ik_llama which you can run on 16/24gb vram

>>717237897
Fair enough. I was just tired of waiting every generation and the 16GB with drop in replacement no other components needed to upgrade was good. If the 5070 was 16GB I would've bought that but I didn't want to upgrade other components either and get 5070 TI. It's somewhat better than the 1070 and has newer features and rendering in Blender among other things is sped up immensely.

>>717217076
>>717217680
>>717223575
>>717229130
Remember that 1050 can run Battlefield 1 at 60fps 1080p.
Even /v/ said 750ti is enough for medium gaming, now xx50 cards is a literal rename of 1030/730.

>>717237812
You can even run the shitty one on 8GB, retard

>>717238354
This $130 card has been holding out in my PC for half a decade.

>>717223606
I always used amd cards and never got the survey.

>>717238568
>why would you use 64 GiB on thing that works when you can run 8 GiB shit that doesn't?
Gee I don't know

>4070 ti super 16gb
Eating good for the next decade, can gen sloppa on demand and mess with 12b models in tavern is a nice bonus

>>717238634
>half a decade
The fuck did you replace it with? My 1060 is eight and a half years old. Honestly surprised the fan hasn't given out on it. Not even sure what fucking brand to replace it with since I always went EVGA (rip).

>>717238750
>GiB
Found the fat person.

I'll just sit on my 3080 I felt like I needed to upgrade but when you think about it most settings can be scaled down like the coming BF6 the destructibility isn't anything new nor the game and what it is pushing. Scale the graphics to medium high and I just saved myself a butt load on new parts.

There needs to be a game that justifies a huge graphical upgrade. GTA6 is going to be a year late on PC and 2 years later before being modded if even possible.

>>717231806
Ai bubble going to pop soon

>>717218304
People are trying to dab on this anon but let's be fucking real: What are any of you playing that actually justifies your 5080 or 5090? I'll forgive VRAM cases but if your answers could be handled at 1080p120 by a 5060 or similar, I'll roll my eyes at you.

t. grabbed a 4060 laptop to hold me over til I could do a 5090 build, only to find out the laptop was enough

>>717242887
You need a 5090 to get at least 30fps with framgen in Monster Hunter Wilds.

>>717242887
Microsoft Flight Simulator ultra graphics settings in VR?

>>717215813 (OP)
Can't support Nvidia anymore with their intentionally gimped cards with superjew prices and doing irreparable damage to PC gaming by strong-arming their proprietary tech solutions to mend issues that they caused in the first place. They're dumping all these trash gpus in every laptop & prebuild now so normies have little choice but to be horribly ripped off.

>>717243058
>poorfag using hyperbole
Every time.
Remember that the 560Ti is better than the 5090, because the 5090 needs to upscale from 144p to get 10fps.

>>717216090
The company can literally sue you in America if you go under it. Or they will just stop supplying your store because your actions are forcing other stores to lower their prices too.

>>717218304
>/v pc fags: hahaha the switch 2 is like a 1060? That fucker cant run shit
>also /v pc fags: my low tier poor man build can run everything just fine
I hate the poor

>>717238354
>750ti
It was a patrician card and Njewdia NEVER allowed themselves to produce a GPU that good ever again.
Great pricing, great performance, minimum energy consumption to the point it only needed to be connected to the Motherboard.

In fact, the xx50 series after the 1050 series are as you said, pajeet tier dogshit only found in non-gaming laptops or cards that have less than the minimum required broadband and a re gimped on purpose.

After 2000 series, there is nothing but absolutely the worst kikery imaginable.
The 5000 series are a travesty and dropped the 32 bit support.
Forget about backwards compatibility, you will be playing unoptimized UE5 chinkware that struggles to run games on 2k and 4k is a pipe dream unless you turn on AI powered bullshit so you feel like you are playing games on a fucking Stadia.

The good news is that Nvidia is not hiding this reason why even finding a 4050 or a 5050 series is impossible because not even vendors want it for the same reason nobody wanted a 30-40 series back when, might as well buy a fucking pre-build.

I'm running 3050, you literally dont need more.

>>717244469
They literally can't. You can sell for whatever you want to. I guess Zimbabwean education isn't that good.

>>717218304
Anons seething over this post, but I bet it's true. I play anything I want at 1440p with my 2060, a 1060 could probably do even better at 1080p.

>>717246573
>>717242887
>>717218304
I had a 1070 which I upgraded in January last year, because playing games at 1080p on low/medium settings with upscaling just to make games run at 50FPS is DISGUSTING and you're a fucking coping loser if you say otherwise

notice how all the poeple saying "it works fine" never post a fucking video of the game running on their system, they just post a single out of context screenshot? That's because the game is normally running at 20fps whilst looking like a blurry fucking mess, but they say "it's still playable" in the same way that a rotten sandwich is "still edible": can you chew and swallow it? Then it's still fine despite tasting like shit and making you sick! And for those who feel the metaphor doesn;t work, 'making you sick' is meant to represent having zero fucking standards

>>717236563
Who the fuck would EVER """upgrade""" after one generation?

>>717215813 (OP)
What's the source for the "poor sales" statement?

Look at the Steam hardware survey. Plenty of 5060s and 5070s bought up and rising through the ranks. The 5060 on its own outsold the AMD RX9000 cards something like 14:1.

>>717236563
>The 50 series is a straight downgrade unless you're using DLSS which looks like fucking dogshit.
What are you using then? My DLSS at 4k looks better than your native 1440p.

>>717246960
Who doesn't?

>>717247018
My 480p on my 560Ti looks better than goyslop fake pixels and fake frames. Cope and seethe, poorfag.

>>717215813 (OP)
Cool but they're ending win10 support next year so I'll have to go AMD for my upgrade.

I already switched to 9070 XT and I see no reason to go back to Nvidia in the upcoming future, since Nvidia's late drivers are fucking trash and finds out AMD has pretty good drivers now.

>>717247018
Sounds like a cope

>>717215813 (OP)
Cool. I’m still waiting for 60 series
My 3080/5800x3D is still trucking. Got the 3080 at launch MSRP too

>>717238634
>game looks nice
>runs good
>new game
>looks like shit
>runs like shit
2042 is such an embarrassment.

>>717247718
Nope, sounds like the truth. DLSSing 1080p to 4k looks better than native 1440p while running better. You can plug your ears with your fingers and shout lalala it can't be truth - or if you had a 4k monitor or were able to look this up on youtube, you 'd know it's true.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/products/workstations/rtx-6000/
You aren't poor anon, are you?

>Nvidia releases hot new video card
>/v/ poors can't afford it so shit all over Nvidia
>Nvidia drops prices by a bit
>Makes no difference. /v/ poors still can't afford it
lol

>>717248226
1440p will look better every time because it has more to work with.

I loved it how we finally start defending lazy fuck devs just because you can add fake filters.

>>717248226
Why performance and not Quality? :(

>>717248696
Left is DLSS ultra performance , which is 720p upscaled to 4k
Right is native 1440p

you lose

>>717226969
5070TI is literally the same die as the 5080, just worse silicon

>>717249096
Because the point of that comparison is to show DLSS is just much better than standard TAA even when it has less input pixels to work with. Performance mode is 50%, which means 4k DLSS Performance has 1080p input resolution - that is considerably less than native 1440p. And yet 4K DLSS Performance looks and runs better. It's to show that DLSS is so much more efficient than TAA that it needs way less input pixels to produce better visuals, as long as your output resolution is high enough.

That's why I originally asked anon what he uses if he thinks DLSS - because every other graphical solution either looks like shit or runs like shit compared to DLSS. The only valid other answer is DLAA which is just DLSS at 100% input res.

>>717249383
Or FSR4, which is decent too. But barely anyone has an RX9000 card and barely any games natively support it.

I have an almost 9 year old build, my 1070 is still hanging on but it's really starting to show its age and I'm afraid it'll kick the bucket any time now. I have a lot of disposable income right now and I'd like to upgrade, I want something beefy so I'm thinking either a 5080, 5070ti or a 9070XT. I know 4k is a meme but I still want to give it a shot, what should I buy?

>>717250010
>I know 4k is a meme but I still want to give it a shot, what should I buy?
9070xt
5070ti ONLY if it's for less than the 9070xt

>>717216259
I know you're shitposting but why would you buy Nvidia stock at these highs when everyone and their mother knows it's being propped up by a speculative market that doesn't know how they're going to make money to begin with and are all going to start downsizing when they realize they don't need as many GPUs? It's one thing if you bought stocks in the middle of the craze because it was still mooning, but relatively recently enough to lose money on it? Why?

>1080p
>RTX 3060
>Ryzen 5 3600
I won.

>>717216090
They basically do. What are you babbling about? Third parties retailers will sell them cheaper if they aquire them for cheaper otherwise people won't buy from them unless they are retarded. If they cut something from $500 to $400 then the company that sells it for $450 instead of $500 will get more sells.

>>717250010
I'm on a 4090 and I'm upscaling in about half the games I play. >>717250447's recommendation of a 9070XT is silly at best.

>>717250540
missing out on DLSSFG is one of the biggest mistakes you've ever made

>>717216504
5000 series cannot play older games like mirrors edge because they no longer support Nvidia physx.

Since modern games are shit the 4000 series have not gone down in price as much.

Just buy a 4090 if you can get your hands on one.

>>717251273
can AMD GPUs play mirrors edge?

>>717250751
everything runs great at 1080p, I don't need frame gen

>>717216504
Buy a 5090. If you can't afford a 5090 then a used 4090. The rest are shit.

>>717215813 (OP)

they are talking about the 5050 and even lower models that don't even get listed outside of the poorest poorfag markets

>>717251470
how about ue5 slop and mh wilds

>>717251554
I don't play those, sorry.

>>717216090

>>717251273
>no longer support Nvidia physx
Untrue.
>going to post an article that shows he missed the point
I accept your Jujy Fruits sold at the concession stand.

I got a 10 series and a Switch 2. With Nintendo I can hold out even longer. They can price their GPUs whatever they want but most games that are coming aren't even worth playing

I can run From Soft games OK on low with a 1660 but Nightreign was pretty bad performance wise, I definitely need something new soon but I'm still not really enticed at a 5060 for $300. $200 would be good.

>>717251273

>>717215813 (OP)
>oversupply

sure...

>he thinks buying a new gpu will make good games magically appear

>>717250540
But but what about goytracing and faggot generation?

3060 can't run modern slop at 4k(upscaled from 480p) and 80fps(frame gen from 20fps), you're missing out anon.

>>717251782
I bought 7900xtx and Uma musume pretty derby was released.

>>717215813 (OP)
Oh you silly anon, cutting prices just means partners/retailers get better margins, YOUR price is still the same LMAO

>>717251728
Go on: boot up Mirrors Edge, set everything to max and break some windows- and tell us what happens.

>>717250740
It is quite literally the best card you can buy before you start jumping into stupid price jumps for increasingly diminishing returns. 9070XT in my country is ~$1550
5070 Ti is +$270 to $470 for +5% perf
5080 is +$850 to $1600 for +20% perf
5090 is +$3,500 to $5,500 for +80% perf
You can't even make an argument for a second hand 4090's because of how in demand they are for AI purposes

>>717251960
It will run the same as it does on an AMD gpu.

>>717215813 (OP)
Gotta hurry up and finish setting up my scalper bots to make sure the price stays high so I can sell off all of my current stock.

>>717252021
It might be the best price/performance, but it's not a solid 4k card if the 4090 is upscaling (with better and more supported tech, at that) for a bunch of games. The 9070 is a 1440 card.

>>717252080
Do as I say. Now.

>>717252143
post it running on your 5090. lol

>>717252136
Heh, I still remember when a friend of mine was running dual 980's to make 4k playable. If the 4090 can't do 4k without upscaling it's not a 4k card either. Which makes me think 4k is still a meme a decade later and 1440p remains the sweet spot.

>>717252221
I mean, my 4090 is running at 1440p when it's not doing 4k native, and the output is still better than 1440p native. So there's logically no reason to run at 1440p native.

>>717252021
The 5070 is around 600 - 700 € in my country but I can't find the Ti version for <900€. The 9070XT costs roughly around the same while the 5080 is even more insane, the lowest I've seen it go for is 1200€

>>717215813 (OP)
Why even buy an Nvidia GPU when the RX 9070 XT exists?

>>717220074
>Not him but the b series are all 1080p cards
No, they're 1440p cards. Their explicit goal is, "4060 Ti tier performance except you can run games at 1440p"

>>717252195
Do you want to be the andrew tate of PC gaming? Is this the road you really want to travel? Kill yourself immediately.

>>717252328
The 5070 is ~20% slower than the 9070 XT so that's why it's a lot cheaper. Even though I'm a diehard AMD fanboy if I had to pick between the 9070 XT and the 5070 Ti at the same price point I'd probably go for the 5070 Ti.

>>717215813 (OP)
Just in time for the Super TI versions to come out, I bet.