Thread 717216171

Genuine classic or overrated trash?

Any game with random encounters is automatically trash

it's aite

Good game but why is her butt so big???

>>717216171 (OP)
I don't think there's that much to write home about but it's still a good and fun traditional JRPG. Very nice visuals for the time too.

>>717216171 (OP)
People love it because of the open world and air travel but it's mid in terms of mechanics.

If they did a remaster in current day it wouldn't hold up.

>>717216171 (OP)
like a lot of jrpgs from that period the cast is very charming and the game looks and sounds good but the random battles get really repetitive both in number in that you hit a point where you are objectively best off doing the same moves over and over and over

it makes exploring for hidden spots really annoying when you constantly get jumped

>>717216171 (OP)
classic but the mechanics are janky and you can waste your time accidentally. most special moves are useless

it's ok, gamecube version had super compressed sound though.

>>717216632
Isn't she artificially created by a bunch of old perverts that have no entertainment other than nuking the world once in a while?

>>717216875
>mid in terms of mechanics.
Might be but there is surprisingly enough depth to combat
Especially when you fight optional bosses
Plus it is fun when every single enemy wants to insta-kill you
Even some slimes

>>717219197
>artificially created
When was this stated??

>>717221797
They don't have females on that space station
I don't remember if it was officially stated or not but at the very least it was heavily implied
Faina had no other friends other than Sephiroth-wannabe, they were the only kids there

I love this game and I dont like many jrpg's. For some reason it held my attention start to finish

>>717222858
same
It is just really well paced
Charming characters and interesting locations help as well

>>717216171 (OP)
A bit overrated but I wouldn't call it trash though. The game systems just aren't all that interesting and the air ship battles take so fucking long that they become almost tedious. It has some cool moments though, but PS2 JRPGs mog it hard.

>>717216171 (OP)
I have no idea what the fuck were they thinking when they decide that in the overworld you need to be attacked every 5 seconds by enemies that dodge all your attacks
If you have the patience to tolerate that it's a fun animey game that has the sort of tropes where the villain team has a sexy girl one, a muscle one and a brainac one

>>717223534
>attacked every 5 seconds by enemies that dodge all your attacks
Just spam Aika's abilities, it is really not that hard

>>717216171 (OP)
Excellent atmosphere, aesthetics, music and the characters are fun. Gameplay is mostly standard JRPG shit but if you enjoyed something like the Suikoden series, you'll feel right at home. The game hype up that sense of adventure which is truly impeccable.
Though like other JRPGs within its time, zoomers wouldn't get it. You actually have to be born in that era to appreciate it.

>>717216171 (OP)
The narrative and characters are fun but the battle system sucks and iirc the ship stuff was also shit

Overworks (AM7) was unironically one of Sega's best studios. Shame about the merger with WOW and their eventual death. Lead programmer still works at Sega, he just directed Shadow Generations.

>>717223986
>the ship stuff was also shit
nah, ship battles are fun
if you are a fan of mecha anime that is
I like how they also allowed you to travel around its deck and talk to your party members there. It is pure soul

people on /v/ hate it because it surpasses E33 under every single aspect

>>717216171 (OP)
there's not really a lot of filler so the pace of the game makes it good even with the random battles slogging it down. you're always hitting new story beats and finding new discoveries along the way.

>>717216246
fuck off, 'mo

>>717223986
This, honestly. I love the game but if you remade the gameplay with modern conveniences and QOL in mind it would be a massive improvement.

>>717216171 (OP)
Fuckable tomboy, next question.

better than E33 for sure

>>717216171 (OP)
7/10 game. I bought both versions (dc and cube).
However, playing it in 2025 it's a relative 8, possibly 9/10, simply because the genre has gotten so much worse overall.

>>717217574
Not just compressed, the musical instruments are missing basic audio filter properties (like ADSR) and post processing effects like reverb.

>>717223534
First time playing a JRPG?
>>717223972
Skies is far far far better than suikoden.

Play evolution world instead, nice dungeon crawler where you can see the enemies.

>>717225586
*I will ad this, it's one of the few games in the genre that doesn't take itself too seriously and stays fairly focused on adventure without convoluted nonsense that is so overbearing in a lot of JRPGs.
That alone makes it really refreshing and i would highly recommend it to anyone that enjoyed the first 2 Lunar games, and Grandia.

>>717225845
The best part is that you don't actually kill any gods in it
Only some death star

>>717216171 (OP)
Peeping on Aika

>>717226863
she'll shoot you

shill me on which version/patch/mod to run for a first timer
feel like injecting some cute weeaboo bullshit into my bloodstream

>>717223534
Get filtered, bitch.

>>717216171 (OP)
dreamcast ver is better.

>>717224245
I assume this is just fan art. I've heard rumors about a remake/remaster.

>>717216171 (OP)
Genuine classic, but also a bit overrated. The battle system was less complex than a bunch of SNES JRPGs, much less anything on the PS1. Yeah it had ship battles, but it just felt like there was more they could have done with positioning in both battles. Like if they remade it but turned the battles into a hybrid of JRPG + tactics battles it'd be ideal.

>>717230041
I forgot
Do special moves always hit enemies
Or does it only apply to some of the moves?

>>717216171 (OP)
it's fun and holds up if you like rpgs.
>>717230265
do not listen to this man he is your enemy.
play the gamecube version. after you get to the first city, fly north and there's a gamecube exclusive merchant in a small boat that sells an item that disables random battles in the overworld.
you don't need the experience from these battles there is more than enough xp from dungeons to complete the game. this VASTLY improves the overall experience of the game. the overworld battles suck and this completely removes them letting you explore in peace. dungeon random battles remain unaffected.

Somebody post the girl with the big tits polishing the rocket, please.

>>717216171 (OP)
I never finished it because the combat was garbage.

>>717231425
No no you don't understand the music is slightly worse that means I HAVE to pass up on all the extra content

>>717231783
>rocket
It's a naval cannon round.

>>717231820
Are bounties legends only?
Those were some of the most fun battles in the game

>>717231913
And I wish it was my dick.

>>717231957
Yes.

>>717231957
>Are bounties legends only?
Yes, along with new side quests (most notably the one concerning picrel which adds quite a bit of context to the main story)

>>717216171 (OP)
its fine but i feel like people overrate it because it was one of the few rpgs on the gamecube

>>717223534
You can disable the random encounters with cheats, only you need the Bosses and Ship battles

Fina is marriage material.

>>717229690
I just played the undub version of the gc version, even though it has no eng subtitles you can make out most of the battle lines

>>717231407
it's been a while, but yeah, I don't think specials can miss.

>>717216171 (OP)
aesthetically it's good but the old ass jrpg mechanics hurt it a lot and you can outright brick your fucking save at multiple points
>sky ship game
>punished for exploring with your sky ship

>>717216171 (OP)
It's a classic. There are tons of great side quests and I loved recruiting all the members of the Blue Rogues. The super where the whole pirate crew fucks the enemy's shit up one at a time is pure soul. Also the cast is great, the girls are cute, and the ship battles are cool.

>>717216171 (OP)
I see /v/ has started to dislike this game they previously beloved now that ecelebs made videos about it, I hate ecelebs but this is just /v/ contrarianism at its finest

>>717230041
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>717216171 (OP)
I liked it as a kid but could never finish it. I replayed it about a year ago and enjoyed it for a decent amount of time but eventually got bored of it.

>>717216171 (OP)
Classic, Legends is a weaker version, but still amazing.

>>717231783
Belle is only 16 you sick fuck!

Loved using the "Mace Hand" strategy with bosses, whenever this salty old fucker was in my party

Skies of Arcadia is one of the best classic JRPGs ever made.

>>717243589
Her cannons are huge

>>717223623
>FIRE CONSUME MY ENEMIES! LAMBDA BURST!

>>717230265
The extra content is really good, I would love a definitive edition of the game, at least some fixes for GCN sound and frame rate.

>>717216171 (OP)
It's great but I find every other fan of it insufferable. Must be the made up translation.

>>717235437
I vaguely remembered that some of Faina's moves could miss
I guess that was just petrification side effect that wasn't guaranteed and not the damage from the move itself

>>717243589
that's a big round

>>717216171 (OP)
Genuine classic that suffers from the same issues as Legend of Dragoon; it's really really slow in combat. I didn't mind it back when the game was new (I first played this with the Gamecube release) but it's pretty rough now.
Unlike Legend of Dragoon because of the timing shit though, you can emulate this one and map a button to fast forward for when animations play in combat.

>>717246419
>it's really really slow in combat.
not really, it isn't
most of the fights end in 1-2 rounds and the animations are entirely skippable

>>717231425
>play the gamecube version. after you get to the first city, fly north and there's a gamecube exclusive merchant in a small boat that sells an item that disables random battles in the overworld
What item is that? I've played this game four times and never seen it.

>>717246939
white map or something

>>717247897
btw, later in the game once you gain the ability to travel in higher altitudes it also decreases your random encounters rate

>>717232726
Apparently Piastol's involvement was planned to be even bigger
She was going to join the party and even confront Ramirez about the Aquila
But I get it had to be scaled back, even in the Legends edition
It's a real shame because I would've liked to see that
I'd adore it if data miners and modders created a fan-made director's cut of the game

>>717216171 (OP)
Gameplay was below average due to zero difficulty. Random encounters are dealt with Aika's Lambda Burst and boss battles were about buffing Vyse or Drachma and using their first super move. Ship battle with the Little Jack were great but once you get the Delphinus you once again become overpowered and have to try hard to destroy yourself.

Everything else was pretty good. I know the translation had zero accuracy and was basically fanfiction compared to the Japanese version but I still got a kick out of it as a teenager.
It really need a remaster with Dreamcast audio, Gamecube content, and an optional feature to turn off random encounters.

>>717249081
>I know the translation had zero accuracy
I don't think it is true
They overstated how much they changed
It is mostly just names of places, weapons etc

You DID get the secret cutscene, right /v/?

>>717251360
>the battle results screen

>>717251360
Was it necessary to destroy Enrique like this?

>>717216171 (OP)
It fixed the encounter rate issue on the GC version, but even STILL it feels slightly overbearing. So imagine how bad it was on DC. Otherwise it's alright, got a lot of charm. As do most games of that era.

I don't particularly care about JRPGs anymore, but there's some classics out there too that are worth a shot. Kind of like Dark Cloud is worth playing too.

this is better

>>717216171 (OP)
overrated classic

>>717253085
It has no sequels with haha Ryan so it is better by default

>>717231425
Is the gamecube version censored?

Where there is light...... there is DARKNESS!!!

>>717257275
I don't know. it doesn't matter. disabling the random battles on the overworld is the only thing that matters. that shit ruins the game.

>>717216171 (OP)
The game has some neat ideas like the special resource being party wide, different elements having different aoe types and customisable ship combat but it never really pushes any of it far enough to be properly engaging.

The game is super charming though and the world is fun enough to explore to make up for these issues

>>717216171 (OP)
It was like the only jrpg on the gamecube along with Tales of Symphonia.

>>717257275
Aika's rape scene was slightly censored

>>717216171 (OP)
I didn't finish this game, though its aesthetics are really nice. I might try it again someday