Recently got into dreamcast emu, played this game on a whim today and i'm already in the mines of the ugly bastard town (he's literally me). I always assumed dreamcast oldfags and hipsters were just spouting cope when they said this game was good, I was wrong.

There is this pretty niche jrpg that came out in 2000 called final fantasy 9

>>717219605
FFIX is the best final fantasy game, period.

>>717219161 (OP)
Grandia 2 has a really good battle system. holds up well even today.

This game is great, but the translation is Working Designs tier.

>>717222052
Is Ryudo not such a tryhard in the Japanese version? He looks kinda douchy just going by the design.

>>717221056
everything else was worse than part 1 tho right?

>>717225591
Depends. Grandia 1 is an adventure, Grandia 2 has a more traditional JRPG story. I like Grandia 2 better.

Not sure exactly why Ryudo's character design required wearing a pack 24/7, sets off my autism, though I recognize it could be autism that would drive a man to never take off his backpack. I digress.

Has an E33 faggots decided to play a Jrpg that isn't their shit pile?

>>717219161 (OP)
Grandia 1 & 2 are among my favorite jrpgs. I tried getting into Child of Light because it had a similar action bar battle system, but the story was too artsy fartsy for my weeb sensibilities.

>>717225591
Grandia 2 is such a different game besides some shared elements that it basically is like Final Fantasy with each installment being substantially different, without even sharing worlds. G1 is a very different title from G2 altogether, it's not really easy to compare them directly in that sense.

>>717219605
FFIX has a dogshit battle system. It's so fucking slow.

>>717219161 (OP)
Based taste. A shame 3 and Xtreme are not good.

>>717222052
Explain

>>717225591
The grimdark edgelord characters and painfull childish "light vs darkness" story in Grandia 2 really lets it down.

>>717219161 (OP)
>Ms.Millenia lusting approved ITT
Based
She was probably my first waifu, but there's always been so little fanart of her
t's been so long I forgot almost everything about this game, I should replay it just to see if I would still like her or if I was (likely) completely driven by youth's lust

>>717225842
Haven't played E33, I just thought Dreamcast rpg's were shit and it was just the schmup, shenue and SA1 machine so i never touched it until now.
Illbleed is another good DC i played last week. I miss when AAA games were fun.

>>717227148
It's a little of both. It's incredibly trope-laden, but Millenia happens to be sultry and smug in a way that is pleasing to the boner. The weakness in character is Ryudo not being able to have a proper arc as the elements never build fully and the antagonist not having engaging enough motivations to carry the supposed twist of the game. They really did the villains wrong, with all of them being evil for the sake thereof rather than for some greater purpose.

>>717227380
Between Grandia 2, Skies of Arcadia and Phantasy Star Online, I always looked at the DC rpg lineup like the holy grail.

Elena is really powerful early game. I gave her the chaos orb and she's one shotting the yeti's in lumir forest with Burn Flame. It feels really good shutting down enemies with counters and canceling

>>717228887
You entirely break the game if you focus your points on the cancel skills. Especially Tio's

>>717228919
Should i break the game? Or will it be boring? Does this game have some fucking post game or optional super dungeon i'll actually want to be op for?

>>717228995
The game will be piss easy after a certain point regardless

>>717228995
Play it however you want, but there's no real challenging content of the game if you use the tools the game gives you. It just so happens that maxing the cancel skills make them essentially instant, so you can bully bosses pretty easily with them. Tio's is AOE so you can just start ravaging everything.

>>717228995
>>717229110
I'll add that the only hard content of the game are a few power-spikes at "random" spots. Valmar's Heart and Melfice are the only two bosses that really hurt in my opinion. Some people say the eye can fuck you but I never had issues. The Heart has a really strong AOE that it can spam if you get back luck, and Melfice debuffs the shit out of you to the point where the battle can take forever if you aren't prepared for it. Neither of these bosses are endgame.

>>717229274
>no ultra hard end game dungeon
Well the games pretty kino regardless. I can't complain about easy jrpg's when one of my favourites is legend of dragoon. Nice to know i won't have to grind

>>717219161 (OP)
Best Grandia game, easily. Great music too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laN7PIOZOXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL8LPFgo2Lc
>>717226350
>>717222052
It's weird because the spoken dialog is relatively fine. It's a lot of the incidental scenes that read like they're localized to shit.
>>717226550
Still better than Grandia 1 where the story just spins its wheels and every line of dialog is two 12 year olds saying a variation of
>LET'S GO TO [place] AND HAVE AN ADVENTURE!!!!!!!!
Juvenile bullshit dialog everywhere nearly ruins it. I'll take the adult characters with actual personalities in 2 over the retarded one note children of 1.

>>717229489
Definitely not. The game is pretty damn lean and it's to the game's benefit 90% of the time.

>>717229615
Based taste. I should really force myself through 3 after replaying 2.

>>717229646
Yeah it's tight. I think that's what helped drag me in, I was expecting a longer slow jrpg opening where i wouldn't really be in the game for like 10 hours (and expected to drop it and play more Illbleed or try record of lodoss) and instead it was just to the point and i'm out the door on the main journey in like 20 minutes. Plus the ryudo geohound chad protag helps.

>>717219161 (OP)
It has good story pacing that gets better as it goes on, which means lots of good climactic moments, and a fun party that routinely shuffles. I remember it being a little grindy at the start where you're just with Elena in the mountains but it gets better and better.

Umm, based?

>>717219161 (OP)
Just play the hd remaster. Why are you emulating?

>>717231259
>just buy the slopmaster goyim!

>>717219161 (OP)
What the fuck is Goku wearing

>>717231259
Because I wanted to check out and play the dreamcast's greatest hits

>>717231259
DC version is the best version. This is pretty well known.

>>717225591
Grandia 1's dungeons can be kind of a slog compared to 2.

>>717231585
thats fine, what made any dungeon bearable was the characters and their little adventures.
it would seem grandia 2 is missing that magic that made 1 so special.

>>717232696
>what made any dungeon bearable was the characters
ANON LET'S GO ON AN ADVENTURE HEY THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FUN ADVENTURE ANON HOLY SHIT LETS GO TO THAT PLACE IT SOUNDS LIKE A FUN ADVENTURE

Nice writing Game Arts.
>it would seem grandia 2 is missing that magic that made 1 so special
Yeah, it has developed characters.

>>717233094
Grandia 2's about as mature as Dragon Quest.

>>717234806
And Grandia 1 is more juvenile than Barney.

it's good

>>717219161 (OP)
Disliking Star Ocean is a quick way to prove you're a tasteless faggot

>>717236079
But i like star ocean

>>717236079
>>717236843
nobody likes Star Ocean

>>717237002
You're right, I lied

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