We are quite literally getting Dark Souls 4

https://youtu.be/RyC8jAbAYLM?si=zvrEp69dNuwrhojv
https://youtu.be/FB5qvFt_bvg?si=mW7FA9E_WVnDyc-6
https://youtu.be/ft74u8Ggkoc?si=AUSRNO5HbpeQr6K5
https://youtu.be/Y_FUAOfBMO4?si=8E10I4cPnEe0Wubx

the dark soul... imagine

i dont WANT dark souls 4
i DO WANT demons souls 2

>>717236494 (OP)
It looks so kino, bros

>>717236775
lords of the fallen??

>>717236764
>demons souls 2
That's Dark Souls 3

>>717236494 (OP)
holy slop
every major rehaul mod sucks ass for these games

>>717236860
>1 continuous level
>majority looks the same
>no good dungeon crawling level
no it isnt.

i hope the overall areas and normal enemy encounters arent a snorefest like in 70% of dark souls 3
i hope the gimmick bosses arent absolute forgettable trash like 50% of dark souls 3
i hope the non-gimmick bosses have something interesting going on instead of letting you just roll forward into every attack like 40% of dark souls 3

>>717236764
That's the remake and what your dogshit game deserves at best.

>>717236979
better remake than darks souls resharted lmao

>>717236925
>>1 continuous level
Several paths
>>majority looks the same
Nah
>>no good dungeon crawling level
False

>>717236958
None of this is true though

>>717237173
the catacombs sucked ass and wasnt even better than 5-2 in demons souls. wolnir was super shit which may have been a nod to demons souls bosses though.

>>717236958
Dark Souls 3 has the best gimmick bosses and enemies they have done, retard
They literally made Bes of Chaos and Ceaseless Discharge into a good boss

>>717236764
holy BASED

>>717237283
>the catacombs sucked ass and wasnt even better than 5-2 in demons souls
The catacombs are great, the fatlct that the map is layers one on top the other which you can also drop through, hitting the hexing skeletons from afar to destroy the boulders, the hexing urns and the carthus swordsmen are all great

>>717236494 (OP)
I remember just how broken heavy running attack from neutral was from the demo

>the year is 2025
>there are 12 dark souls games
>they're not really amazing. They're not really bad either. They're just forgettable
How does a game defined by the idea of being subversive wind up like this. What happened to us.

I know how. Reddit discovers something cool and they take it way too seriously.

>>717237706
i think theyre pretty amazing

>>717237706
>>they're not really amazing
Faggot

>>717237706
Filtered

>>717236915
Obvious bait

>>717237614
looked way too samey, the shitful graphics of 3 doesnt help the area at all but they could have at least tried to make it interesting and different to look at. instead all the walls are the same and theres a fuckton of walls

>>717236860
Dark Souls 3 was Dark Souls 2.

>>717238080
Finally, some good fucking opinions.

>>717237313
wolnir sucks ass
ds3 sucks ass so hard its unreal

>>717237785
Which part of Nightreign blew your socks off.
It wasn't any of the assets because they're all the same.

>>717237873
Worst you can say is that it's a shame the lower part isn't shrouded in darkness since Dark Souls 3 has no real areas where light is needed
Still looks good

>>717238403
the part where they made it actually fun to play with other people unlike summoning

>its another "the community remakes the game!" episode
>aka "the devs make their favorite shit broken and least-favorite things dogshit all while throwing in random non-canon/headcanon shit into the game they dont actually understand
if you guys wanna play non-fromsoft souls clones there are plenty of actually good options....

also fuck off and buy and ad

>>717238468
Okay but does that give you the Dark Souls 1 effect.
Did that make it that memorable to you.

Or is it DLC. Advanced Zanzibart.

It's getting formulaic lads.
Sekiro was outstanding. I like it because it felt "dark souls esque" but wasn't literally a game about coming back to life and wandering around a dying civilization with an analogy about fire.

>>717238468
Imagine if seamless coop was the base multiplayer mechanic for these games on launch. God fromsoft really did fumble with the summoning system being stupidly tedious. It cost items to play with your friends. And not just any items, but a relatively rare one with no way of stacking large numbers without farming or cheating. Such horse shit. There's a reason seamless coop killed elden rings invasions.

>>717238758
ds1 sucks ass, its slow and boring, that's what i remember about it, idk why you'd want to replicate that

>>717238841
>pick up 2 flowers
>open crafting menu
>craft multiplayer item
holy shit im rich, look at this super rare item anon on 4chan told me about!

>>717238686
Nigger behavior

>>717238864
worst taste on /v/ congratulations

>>717238758
Sekiro was shit
>but wasn't literally a game about coming back to life and wandering around a dying civilization with an analogy about fire.
It literally was, but that wasn't the issue with it

>>717238917
>t. boomer seething no one likes his dogshit slow game
oh the tears, how sweet

>>717238906
>brings up elden ring, the first game to do easy access multiplayer
>conveniently leaving out humanities, human effigies and embers
Hmmm, I wonder what point the anon was trying to make by not including elden ring in his initial argument. Absolutely low IQ response mixed with reading comprehension problems.

>Demon's Souls
Cool game but deeply mediocre, very rough in a LOT of areas
>Dark Souls 1
Great game except when it isn't, where instead it's just kinda boring instead
>Dark Souls 2
A lot of good in an absolute fuckton of mediocre or outright bad, i like it but it's not some misunderstood masterpiece, also it looks like shit except in the DLCs
>Bloodborne
2nd favorite right below Dark Souls 1
>Dark Souls 3
It's ok, but it feels about as rough and unrealized as 2 at times, it's the end of Dark Souls from a story standpoint, but man looking back it was more a whimper than any real closure.
>Elden Ring
Haven't played it yet lol

>>717238758
>Sekiro was outstanding
it really was not, it was fine at best

>>717239008
you're part of the reason this series is now identified as rollslop

>>717239012
the only game your boyfriend mentioned in that post is elden ring and elden rings seamless co op mod. try reading it before jumping on his dick.
>kill rat
>get humanity
fuck thats so rare....

>>717236494 (OP)
Is it actually getting released or what? No, demo doesn't count

>>717238758
>but wasn't literally a game about coming back to life and wandering around a dying civilization with an analogy about fire.

>>717239115
>he fell for the low-iq shazam discord psyop
pathetic
every game after des has been an improvement on the series with a few misteps here and there (several ds2 systems, bloodborne's blood vials, etc.) that get reverted back to baseline after they fail

>>717239116
Actual retard, nobody mentioned elden ring, they mentioned seamless coop which is available for several souls titles now, and specified game(s), as in multiple. What do we know about elden ring? It isn't the ONLY souls game with multiplayer. Don't triple down on your stupidity anon, we can all see what straw your grasping at.

>>717236494 (OP)
Dark Souls world is cyclic so actual Dark Souls 4 is ackshually the Dark Souls 1 remaster.

>>717236494 (OP)
>quite literally
>isnt literal
why do zoomers do this?

>>717239116
>5% drop rate
>not rare
You just proved the other anon right, you genuinely don't know shit

>>717239265
>>717239012
I see at least someone understood what I was saying. I wasn't gonna reply to the retard, but I appreciate you anyway.

>>717237706
>>they're not really amazing. They're not really bad either. They're just forgettable
Me when i lie

>>717238396
>it stinks
>it stinks
>it stinks
yes mr faggotnigger, everything stinks

if you force yourself to hate every game then why do you even pretend to play them?

>>717239283
I have discovered I have the ability to tell a post is a Shart Souls 2 trannoid spergout from the very first words. I don't even need to read further than 5 words (and I literally didn't)
I don't know how I can do this, if it is human or supernatural, I just can
Bottom line is: I'm not reading your blog, tranny

>>717239265
There's a reason seamless coop killed elden rings invasions.
this wasnt about elden ring?
>>717239336
ok
>kill humanity
>get dual humanities
damn what a grind.... could just put your summon sign down too, meaning you dont even need these items for multiplayer. i dont know what it is i dont know.

>>717238864
>>717238994
>>717239087
In no way am I exaggerating when I say that talking to you about this feels like discussing Call of Duty.

3 solid games that came out a decade ago followed by consistent bitching and moaning about any change to the formula. But you also can't just make the exact same thing, because why would you.

How do you innovate on this when you pump out one game a year like Madden NFL.
You... don't. You shouldn't.

You never said this, but I'm going to guess that Sekiro is "mediocre" because it doesn't have lots of cool weapons and cool vistas with a giant snowy castle. If it's not another flavor of the same icecream then it's doing it wrong.

>>717239467
ds3 sucks ass because its trying to be er but its half baked
also its ugly as sin
>that means you hate all souls games!
retard

>>717239283
>pic
I kinda agree with his interpretation, but he sounds like such a complete faggot that it makes me ashamed to have even read it in the first place.

>>717239283
>Dark Souls Truth
>Lies about Dark Souls 2 not being intended as crossgen
>Lies about Dark Souls 3 themes
>Proved wrong by Miyazaki directing Elden Ring and Duskbloods
Why are DS2 sisters so mentally unhinged?

>>717238396

>>717239524
sekiro is mediocre because its too easy, as my pic implied you literally can win by spamming l1, if you disagree with this there are various videos of women/vtubers beating the game's bosses with only a handful of tries
i can go on listing more problems with it if you want
a lot of the ideas were good, therefore, its a fine game, but it is in no way "outstanding", it was just fine and i enjoyed it

>>717239480
>can't into reading comprehension
>missing the forest for a tree
I think you'd be better off just no replying anon, the implication anon was making is that seamless coop, by the time it kicked into full swing, was so popular that it killed invasions, and that we may have had an entirely different system had Fromsoft implemented easier access multiplayer.
Even if elden ring has easy access multiplayer, you're also, once again, conveniently not mentioning the other tediuk factor involved in the multiplayer and that's the resummoning and map limitations, removed by seamless coop. No more "can't go into caves or dungeons without resummoning" and no more "boss died, now you gotta resummon me"
That's the last good faith you'll get from me, since it's obvious you can't even parse basic informational conversation pieces

>>717239480
>xhe doesn't even know what xhe doesn't knoe
ngmi retard-kun

>>717239749
because i agree with all of that. why would i argue for the sake of argument? i think we are both struggling to find any ground here between each other. im referring to the bitching about items. i didnt mention anything else. thats very silly to disregard the whole system over. but thank you.

>>717236494 (OP)
Never Ever coming out

>>717239610
Wait he's directing Duskblood? It somehow looked cheaper than Dark Souls 3 so i tought it was a new blood project with him producing it.

>>717236494 (OP)
I played the temo and the balance and enemies were putrid. Literally the most unfun Souls experience I've had

>>717236494 (OP)
*crunch munch crunch*
wheres titties
*crunch crunch crunch*
looks woke

>>717237614
>The catacombs are great
That, demon ruins and the cathedral are the only areas I really liked in that game.

>>717239847
>merely pretending to be retarded
Oh no, it begins, the back pedaling.

>>717239895
>Wait he's directing Duskblood?
Yeah. Apparently the concept of the game has been in the works for some time, but it wasn't until Nintendo approached Fromsoft asking for a Switch 2 game that it ramped up into full production. It's been in the background for like, 5-6 years IIRC?
I think it looks cheap probably cause what we saw was some fairly early footage of the game, and it has to run on Switch 2 hardware.
FWIW I think it'll be a fun game and I like the concept - I'm just not buying a Switch 2 for it (or at all). Hopefully it's only a timed exclusive

>>717240058
name 1 thing i backpedalled on.

>>717240154
>shifting the burden of proof
>moving goal posts
What is this, /pol/? I'm feeling secondhand embarrassment just from your replies

>>717236494 (OP)
nice when does it release? 2027?

>>717240108
i really dont understand duskbloods
>lets make souls but PvEvP focused
>ah lets lets put it on the switch! the system known for not only having aborhant netcode, but ALSO forces many people to rely on wifi to connect to the internet!
>we can surely do this! us! from software! the comany whose games are known to not have real pvp systems because of our terrible netcode on pc!
just makes 0 fucking sense to me, nightreign already has a lot of issues and its pure pve
doesnt give me much hope for it

also, pic related is this entire thread and im tired of having it

>>717240214
what goal posts have i moved? name 1. why do i need to prove that i only called out the item complaints when i only called out the item complaints? you can just read all that in this thread already. what are you trying to get at?

>>717239847
>my point was proven wrong and I tried to downplay it, then tripped down on my disproven assertion
>I know, I'll just say we're trying to agree with each other!
wow.

>>717239524
Sekiro is mediocre because it half asses a lot of its design and feels extremely half baked and careless
>Introduce a grapple
>This works only in specific fixed points
>Those specific points are placement in a overly restrictive way to specifically funnel players
>Introduce kites to use as smart shortcuts
>Never actually use them except the end and instead spam idols everywhere
>Give every serious enemy a dual healthbar as gay parry checkpoints
>Remove any kind of status and effect you had inflicted when an healthbar node is removed
>Introduce prosthetics and weapon arts
>Make almost every enemy tuned to block attacks that are marginally slower than the standard light R1

>>717240315
>resummoning sucks
i agree
>map limitations
eh dont really care.

again i was calling out the item complaints which i dont think matter at all. i can do that while agreeing that the system is pretty much ass. i never said otherwise.

>>717240302
>prove me wrong!
>is given reasonable information showing you're wrong
>n-no, not like that!
Double wow, I'm out. This guy is a retard. Good luck dealing with this, other anon.

>>717240437
what am i wrong about? why cant any of you say it lmao. nice discussion.

>>717240301
Pretty much agree on all counts. NR has some terrible input delays or just entirely dropped inputs.
In concept, a souls-like PvPvE sounds mint, especially with the added extras like personal quests you have to complete in-session (similar I guess to Remembrances in NR, but hopefully more built upon), I just don't see them pulling it off this time.
I kinda wish they'd just put the time into AC6.5 or a more solid single-player experience - like a second coming of Shadow Tower or King's Field.

>>717240503
>>717239116
>downplaying and then >>717239336 gives information that proves you wrong
I'm not involved in this but I can definitely say you're misunderstanding the point entirely.

>>717240624
>NR has some terrible input delays or just entirely dropped inputs.
No it doesn't
>I kinda wish they'd just put the time into AC6.5
Why? 6 sucked

>>717240782
as ive said other enemies drop humanities with very high drop rates like the humanities near Manus. i never said rats drop humanity 100% of the time, but 5% with that many rats at the start of the game, theres plenty of opportunities to get humanity early. even then you dont need it to start multiplayer.

how is any of that info wrong?

>>717240624
Honestly a new King's Field/Shadow Tower sounds like a great smaller project for FromSoft to take on, they're far more skilled at making fun combat experiences now, and make so much fucking money now that dropping an extremely niche game wouldn't hurt them at all.

>>717240410
You might be right. It's just not bad because it isn't another Dark Souls.

Life if the game legitimately revolved around escaping the dungeon of a Japanese castle and then fighting your way to the top of it and "kill god" with a long whispy beard I'd legitimately be groaning.

>>717240885
nta but yes it does on poor connections, which are not every time, but still often enough to notice, similar in occurrence to invasions, its exacerbated by people thinking their input is "dropped" when in reality it just gets buffered out because of from's strange obsession with "on release" instead of on-press button actions

>>717241097
If you can't control the buttons you press don't play

>>717240897
>how is any of this wrong
More like, how is any of this relevant? The point is multiplayer is tedious in older from titles, casuals want to play from start to finish because youtubers do it, and the power of friendship or something. What's so hard to understand that most games just let you send a damn invite to people you wanna play with in a lobby, followed by loading the entire playable game with minimal interruptions outside of level completion and scoreboarding. Someone said "missed the forest for a true" and it is so apt here, you hyper fixated on items and gave shallow thought to the implications. You don't have to be right about subjective information, you can just say you like the way it's setup. It's disagreeable and people here will call you a huge faggot, but at least it's honest.

>>717240983
It's kinda what I was hoping ER would usher in - smaller, more personal games.
The Fromsoft studio has like 450 employees now, that's what, 3 teams at least?
You have your 200+ man team doing the next big game (ER).
You have your 100+ man team doing the next medium game (Sekiro/BB/AC)
And you have your 50+ man team doing the next small game (Nightreign, Shadow Tower, Tenchu, Echo Night, Evergrace).

>>717241253
holy shit exactly. i dont like the way its setup; ive said that and why i think everyone in agreement, someone else bitched about the items and i was pointing out that that isnt really relative to the issue at all. thats what ive posted so far. i never asked to be "proven wrong", some anon just keeps quoting that from somewhere i dont know. its a lotta shit flinging for what we all agree is irrelevant.

>>717241225
idk what that means but nightreign does in fact drop inputs from time to time

>>717241417
You're on 4chan anon, this is literally a dead bird do not eat moment.

>>717236860
lmao no

>>717236494 (OP)
Archthrones sucks major balls. It's just a reheated mess of copypasted Sekiro and Elden Ring bosses put inside the Roll Souls 3 framework. It desperately wants you to believe it's inspired by Demon's Souls when in reality it's just DS3 again, as bad as that game, but with a couple of retarded (((references))) towards DeS
>DUUUUUUUUUUDE WHAT IF YOU START THE GAME IN A NON-REPEATABLE STAGE THAT ENDS WITH VANGUARD DEMON AND A FORCED DEATH TO BE BINDED TO THE NEXUS
>DUUUUUUUUUUDE WHAT IF WE ADD A GUY CALLED THOMAS THAT STORES YOUR ITEMS AND TELLS YOU ABOUT HOW HE HAD A WIFE AND DAUGHTER BUT HE ABANDONED THEM TO THE DEMONS
It's the literal definition of bad fanfiction

>>717237173
You're a retard

>>717238396
Such an ugly fucking game

>>717243706
i just want to run around in new areas

>>717243706
Sounds like fun

>>717243706
Irithyll dungeon is an harder dungeon crawler section than anything in DeS. It's much harder than its equivalent in Demon's

>>717243706
This, I groaned when meeting Thomas. They didn't have enough with the same name and face, but also his backstory? And at its core it's more of the same bad DS3 game

>>717239948
/thread

>>717244398
Oh God why did you remind me of Irithyll
How can you make an entire zone that has no major status effects be more frustrating than the literal poison swamp?

>>717236494 (OP)
If DS4 is gonna be Archthrones quality I don't want it. What a shitty mod

>>717236494 (OP)
It's weird that this is the only one of these huge overhaul mods that was hated en masse for having reskinned bosses from other games. Deserved, but still. The cherry on top is a couple of entirely reused areas complete with reskinned enemies originally from those areas. The dev response was self pity and begging for more patreon bucks to cover their avocado toast and mocha lattes after delaying a fucking demo for nearly several years.
>>717240301
Good image
(Supposedly) the netcode will be better with the Switch 2's hardware and Fromsoft themselves improving the netcode for a release bigger than Nightreign. Or they just won't bother, Japan plays on their own server and doesn't have this issue. The only logical reason it's a Switch 2 exclusive is that Nintendo must've given Fromsoft a very generous offer after notoriously being rushed by Namco multiple times.

>>717239471
You sound mad

>>717237706
>DeS, DS, DS2, DS3, BB, ER
where are you getting the other 6?

>>717240983
>he thinks they'd be able to make a new King's Field or Shadow Tower without ruining it with rollslop gameplay

>Elden Ring came out 6 years after Dark Souls 3
>It's been 3 years and the next souls game hasn't even been announced yet
why the fuck are people comparing this to yearly-release series like CoD and FIFA?

those zweihander animations are fucking abysmal

>>717237706
>They're just forgettable
the created and define an extremely popular genre, what the fuck are you talking about

>>717244804
>Dodgeroll in King's Field
So Bloodborne's dash?
Not a lot of rolling on an FPS

Oddly I’m not interested in this. I like demons souls and ds3, but something about souls modding leave sme unimpressed

>>717245185
>but something about souls modding leave sme unimpressed
it's, for lack of a better word, very gay

>>717245185
the craziest overhaul mods are for ER

Dark Souls mods kinda suck so I doubt this one is good. Remember Daughters of Ash? That entire mod was just making things different for the sake of making them different, not one good design decision besides making some random drops guaranteed.

>>717237313
I like Dark Souls 3 but Wolnir...? You have got to be fucking kidding me. The only good thing about him is he's too easy to be frustrating.

>>717246943
>Easy except when he vomits and kills you or does explosions

>>717237313
Wolnir

>>717237313
Wolnir

>>717237313
Greatwood is fine but Wolnir is just lame.
Either he spaws his AIDS cloud on top of you and you die, or he doesn't and he dies. Just strike the shiny things 3 times and it's done.

So being a caster is basically unsupported? Not playing then

>>717240983
I love Shadow Tower, I'd love a sequel that drops all the RPG pretenses and goes full survival horror.

>>717250179
>So being a caster is basically unsupported?
?????????

>>717250871
As in, no good spells? Being a caster isn't good? That's what I'm reading

>>717250179
>So being a coward is basically unsupported? Not playing then
good, thank fucking god.
you dont deserve to be allowed to play.

>>717236494 (OP)
Archthrones was fucking awful thoughever. To be expected given its based on DS3

>>717251381
In 1 and 2 it was like that, but not 3. If anything, being a caster in 3 is a disadvantage.

>>717237672
>spear play
kino

>>717245786
thats because theyre not actually smart or creative, and arent on the level of miyazaki. They dont think WHY something is designed the way it is beyond "heh, this will be a challenge"
Dark souls 1, and demons souls of course, is full of examples of deliberate design to test any build.
Anor Londo archers are a cakewalk for fast nimble twats but practically softlocked fatrollers and shieldniggers. So many people got stuck there trying to brute force it instead of changing their strategy.

People who make mods like these are the kinds of people who succeeded in brute forcing it, who took away a lesson of "try again and overcome the challenge through determination!" when the real lesson was to stop, figure out why it isnt working, and what you can do to swing it in your favour

to be fair, fromsoft themselves lost this, DS2, 3, and even Elden Ring all suffer the same - win via attrition or player skill, not via logic and player adaptability.

This leads to design that is challenging, over thoughtful and thought provoking.

>>717251252
The mod doesn't add much stuff, it revamps old ones
All the spells of Dark Souls 3 are there

>>717238758
>I like it because it felt "dark souls esque" but wasn't literally a game about coming back to life and wandering around a dying civilization with an analogy about fire.
Nigga what??? The Demon of Hatred???

>>717236494 (OP)
Will it be Dark Souls 4 or Dark Souls IIII

>>717251968
Dark Souls IVIV

>>717251572
You know, the problem with your argument, the fact that you're a massive pseudo intellectual asshole aside, is that someone who has played Elden Ring and beaten it without resorting to absurd levels of cheese can almost certaintly go back and casually shit all over the most difficult encounters in DeS and DS1. Why is that? Shouldn't at least some of them get stuck on incredibly difficult parts like the archers that, as you said, required either logic and adaptability or repeated brute forcing? Could it possibly be that you're completely full of shit, and the only reason that those games seemed "over over thoughtful and thought provoking" was because the average player fucking sucked?

>>717252750
>instant fragile ego shattered
kek, cope and cry more baby boy
>hey I played all these games and got really good and therefore the old games were easier! WOW maybe the old games were always easy!
its called practice, dumb mutt. Of course theyre easy when you have hours of souls under your belt
same way long time souls fans think every new game is super easy while newfags on reddit cope about it being too hard.

still objectively true that the londo archers are more challenging to fatrolling characters who tanked up than ninja builds. you know that, but you were too upset at being called out you had to get mad over it.

As a tourist, you wouldnt understand since you werent there for DS1's hayday.