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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 12:48:22 AM No.717299698
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>person who knows more about literature than you and has studied literature, and the specific work, extensively understands more about the work than an uneducated person would notice
> dunning kruger moron who thinks they have the whole world figure out with their retarded basic anti-intellectualism, because to them it’s stating the ‘obvious’ when it would be ‘obvious’ to a severe retard that a basic pattern would be unsolvable and meaningless gives their two cents and thinks they know more than the expert
This is essentially anti-vaccine rhetoric but for storytelling, yes this is relevant to gaming because it is also how idiots approach stories with how they appear in games and attitudes towards game design
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 12:52:28 AM No.717299943
Videogames?
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 12:54:53 AM No.717300124
>>717299698 (OP)
kek who the fuck would spend time and effort to remake a safeslop version of a fucking meme
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 12:55:44 AM No.717300179
If the author truly didn't mean anything by a sentence, the publishers would've told them to cut it
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 12:56:45 AM No.717300257
Reading comprehension tests often use existing text so when answering you do have to consider the possibility that the author of the original and the guy coming up with the questions for said text had different ideas in mind. Worst case it felt unfair, but I do have fond memories of these tests. They were fun.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:01:01 AM No.717300569
>>717300257
Apparently the American education system leaves no room for interpretation
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:02:04 AM No.717300637
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>>717299698 (OP)
video games?
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:02:10 AM No.717300643
Sometimes the curtains are blue because it gives me a vibe. They're blue because don't blue curtains look nice? It's not the same thing as being 100% arbitrary. It doesn't represent something about the depth of some character's heart, it just makes a room more inviting than some nasty dark green curtains you might imagine if I didn't tell you. Nobody would write a sentence with just "The curtains were blue" though.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:04:17 AM No.717300772
>>717300569
Critical thinking is Marxists, so it's banned.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:05:19 AM No.717300823
>>717300643
But doesn’t the vibe tell what the purpose of the scene is? Wouldn’t the vibe logically reflect a characters heart? Or even contrast it for a purpose? Think about what you said for two seconds, because why would you want a scene with a nice blue vibe rather than a dark green vibe? What would that tell you about the scene if it needs to be a specific vibe?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:07:50 AM No.717300961
>>717299698 (OP)
I don't know what your malfunction is but you need to be mercifully euthanized.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:09:24 AM No.717301050
why are readers so schizo about knowing what the author meant.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:10:24 AM No.717301121
>>717300823
>What would that tell you about the scene if it needs to be a specific vibe?
The vibe itself is not a coherent statement that could be articulated with words. Read Kant, midwit nigger.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:10:35 AM No.717301138
>>717299698 (OP)
you can't be cringe and based pick a side
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:11:36 AM No.717301207
>>717300823
If the dark blue curtains of the scene is described in a way that would make the reader feel the vibe of sorrow, and the character is in a sorrowful situation, wouldn’t it be completely logical that the blue curtains represent the fact that sorrow is ever present for the character? If the curtains were described as being bright-yellow and joyful, and the character is sorrowful, wouldn’t it be logical to deduce that the curtains represent that despite happy surroundings the sorrow of the character persists? Like it’s common sense, the blue curtains guy chose the worst thing to make his point because colour symbolism is so engrained in our culture there absolutely is nothing esoteric or reaching with the teachers interpretation- it’s common sense
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:11:53 AM No.717301227
>>717300823
>Wouldn’t the vibe logically reflect a characters heart? Or even contrast it for a purpose?
Yeah?
But sometimes you don't really know or care what that specifically is, you just write it and and know it's right.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:13:08 AM No.717301297
>>717300823
Why does it have to be so deep? Blue is known to be a color that's relaxing to people. If the scene is one where the character enters a hospital room or a consulting office, it just means they picked that color because it's generally pleasant. That's it. The author is just telling you the room gives off that vibe because it was designed to do so, nothing more than that.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:13:12 AM No.717301306
>>717300961
Clearly such aggression to something so minor is a sign of debilitating mental illness that wouldn’t hold up to eugenics
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:15:23 AM No.717301443
>>717300772
At least 3 layers of retardation in this post
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:17:07 AM No.717301545
>>717301306
>such aggression to something so minor
>When OP stringed 20 insults together for no fucking reason

I agree baitfaggots should be studied, I don't know what's wrong with you but something's clearly not right.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:17:14 AM No.717301554
>>717301297
But that by itself has purpose and meaning that’s open to analysis? You could deduce that a hospital is a very high quality and effective one if the calming curtains match everything else that’s described about the hospital, and it also shows how bad a character’s mental state is if they need these curtains to calm down, if the curtains contrast how the hospital is run then clearly those curtains have a sense of irony to them and you could have further analysis following from that
>>717301227
So you agree that the curtains are never just blue
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:19:18 AM No.717301662
>>717301554
>So you agree that the curtains are never just blue
I guess? I didn't even read the OP post if that's you, since it's got the schizo formatting.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:20:56 AM No.717301768
>>717301554
>doesn't respond to the posts that refute him
Concession accepted
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:22:22 AM No.717301859
>>717299698 (OP)
>title of the book: THE VERY SAD GUY WHO FEELS SAD WHEN LOOKING AT CURTAINS
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:23:20 AM No.717301921
>>717301545
Oh, ok you are checking if I am neurodivergent enough to take the bait and reply to you in a never ending chain of argument that you are only engaging with because you have nothing else better to do with my time. It clearly has nothing to do with what I posted, and more so that you figured that I am highly suggestible to your bullshit. Clearly you were one of these annoying piece of shit kids in school who went after anyone who was neurodivergent because your stepdad beat you or maybe touched you, or possibly because you were in the closet so doing this made you feel better about yourself? Am I in the correct ballpark? Because I won’t be replying to you anymore
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:24:36 AM No.717302007
op pic is what people sometimes do in sopranos video comments lel
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:25:11 AM No.717302043
>>717301859
>SAD CURTAINS 2: THEY DON'T MATCH THE DRAPES
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:26:29 AM No.717302115
>>717299698 (OP)
It's all fun until you see a teacher bring up interviews where the author really didn't mean that interpretation and faggots insist on it. Who's the expert on the book? I think that is the author. Who's the most dunning kudger? A teacher. Your "let the authority think for you" rethoric not so cool now.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:26:44 AM No.717302136
>>717299698 (OP)
What the author wrote
>The bugs attacked earth with a asteroid
What the experts think the author meant
>Earth attacked itself so it could go to war
What the author meant
>The bugs attacked earth with a asteroid
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:27:09 AM No.717302168
>>717301859
>the 30 chapters leading up to the quote: I'm really fucking sad next to these curtains
>green fag: huh? that's not what he's saying at all, take your medicine.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:27:24 AM No.717302186
>>717301554
>a hospital is a very high quality and effective one if the calming curtains match everything else that’s described about the hospital,
No? It doesn't tell you anything about the quality of the hospital. Curtains are fucking cheap and it's not like the color dictates the price. Could be a cheap hospital as well. If you want to describe the quality of the hospital you'd use other descriptors.

>it also shows how bad a character’s mental state is if they need these curtains to calm down
Again, no. Why? If it's a hospital, you buy the curtains in bulk, you don't select the color depending on what patient uses the room. That's silly.

>you could have further analysis following from that
I'm sure you can asspull whatever analysis you want and that's fine. It's fun to be creative like that. It doesn't detract from the fact that it doesn't necessarily correlate to the author's intent.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:28:48 AM No.717302279
lmao at this idiot
lmao at this idiot
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>>717299698 (OP)
>retard got so buttblasted about getting called out he made a follow up thread
Lmao. Man you sure were that one super tryhard B+ kid, huh?
>midwit imbecile telling Tim Cain no Fallout was actually a critique of capitalism!.png
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:29:06 AM No.717302296
>>717301921
Oh, it's not bait and you're genuinely insane. Got it... I mean, there's crazy people out there everywhere, it's not really surprising
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:29:10 AM No.717302303
>>717302186
Jesus fucking Christ the level of STEM aspie radiating from this post
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:29:27 AM No.717302323
>>717299698 (OP)
There is no such thing as being an expert in fiction beyond factual knowledge of who wrote what, when and where it was written, and anything the author might have said about it. Having a degree in english doesn't make you more qualified to interpret subtext beyond insight granted knowledge of the real world context of the work.

Also having a degree in the arts outs you as a nepobaby or a mental retard.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:29:52 AM No.717302345
OP that's a lot of words to say "media literacy thread". what do you actually want to discuss or are you just huffing farts up on your soap box
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:31:02 AM No.717302432
>>717302303
Are you upset by what I said or something? I'm listening
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:32:26 AM No.717302529
>>717302279
At first I thought the thread was bait, but it seems like OP is genuinely upset
Or maybe it's really good bait? I can't tell
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:32:48 AM No.717302549
>>717302323
>no such thing
>*lists a bunch of highly plausible intel*

If you don't think knowing the author hates niggers will tell you anything about his hit novel "the nigger dog that flew into the sun" idk what paint chips you're eating
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:34:26 AM No.717302659
>>717302529
His entire life and self-worth is based around fellatind midwit critics that can't do, and hence critique. He is the next step of mediocrity, the parrot of the failed fart sniffers.

Of course he is pissed lmao.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:35:06 AM No.717302701
>>717302007
>it's implied in this scene here some fag did 20 years in the can lol!
I need to give less of a fuck, but people farming upvotes can sometimes get down on my nerves.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:37:09 AM No.717302843
>>717302701
>reading YT comments
I know it can be hard to resist, but you need to be strong.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:37:58 AM No.717302902
>>717302659
Well I hope that's the case because that's way more entertaining than just giving attention to an attention obsessed lonely schizo.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:38:25 AM No.717302937
>>717299698 (OP)
you can interpret any work however you want, as long as you recognize that your philosophy and sensibilities aren't the status quo and that you don't speak for everyone. this was anita sarkeesian's problem; it wasn't enough for her to just say her piece - she had to preach at you as though she was speaking from a position of authority and her word is a monolith that is impervious to being rebutted. also death of the author makes everyone valid. otherwise, vaatividya would be out of a job.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:39:05 AM No.717302979
>>717302432
Anon, the most important thing that’s happening for the author is the scene and what’s happening it. The common logistics of a hospital is irrelevant because the hospital doesn’t actually exist outside scenes and context it’s described in, you are very hard linear logic weird person so you are compounding the logistics of a normal hospital over what’s being described in the scene, the last thing any writer is thinking is how hospitals have cheap curtains. It’s very direct, if the author describes a calming scene (including yeh curtains) then that has meaning in conjunction with the scene. If the curtains are red than that would immediately subconsciously make the reader think of intensity or energy, because red in our culture is linked to these things, this creates further meaning weather the scene lives up to the preconceived feelings the curtains create or not. If the curtains are irrelevant to the vibe or meaning of the scene, then the writer is shit writer who was wasted everyone’s time by describing curtains for no reason

It’s the same principle of Chekhov’s gun anon, it’s basic writing and I am sorry if you learnt that the way you write stories isn’t good
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:42:09 AM No.717303205
>>717302937
Death of the author works if a work legitimately illicit a response or interpretation from a reader, it doesn’t work if you are just making up stuff or reaching for the sake of reaching and that’s not your genuine real interpretation/reaction to the work
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:42:50 AM No.717303265
>>717302979
>the hospital doesn’t actually exist outside scenes and context it’s described in
Yeah it does. The hospital is real. The characters in it are real. The world is real, otherwise nobody should care about it.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:43:42 AM No.717303323
>>717303265
Ok Chris chan
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:45:32 AM No.717303448
>>717302979
>weather
The mistakes I made in the post are not beyond me, I write before I think
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:46:07 AM No.717303485
>>717303205
true but as long as you're capable of supporting your interpretation/theory with evidence that is convincing enough to sway people, then that's all that matters (i.e. vaatividya can take shreds of lore from the game - factual set in stone elements of the world - and weave bullshittery from here to timbuktu with them because there's not enough evidence to the contrary to rebut those assertions).
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:51:03 AM No.717303817
>>717300643
Writing is a deliberate exercise. Why even mention the colour of the curtains, or the curtains at all if the author didn't mean anything by it.

Unless the author is some sort of blue curtain fetishist and absolutely requires a blue curtain in each scene
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:51:23 AM No.717303834
it's a good logical position to start from that everything within a work has meaning. of course you can rule things out as you analyse it yourself, but if you go in with the impression that there's a lot of chaff you'll ignore a lot that's purposeful. people can spend years writing a book, redrafting and correcting obsessively, the idea that thought purposeful thought wasn't put into some passages is more unlikely than you think.
if some guy takes 7 years to shit out a book i'll give him the benefit of the doubt that his choices were measured
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:54:11 AM No.717303995
>>717302979
You're prime lolcow material dude, you actually get so upset by people challenging your viewpoint that you dedicate a post to namecalling when you actually had more to say about the subject. I came to the thread expecting bait but I found an actual honest irritable schizo. Surprising. I do commend your honesty, I really do. I prefer honest weirdos like you over incessant bait.

>you are compounding the logistics of a normal hospital over what’s being described in the scene
What exactly makes you think the logistics of a normal hospital don't apply to this metaphorical scene? You're making the assumption that the author described every single material detail to work in conjunction with the inner thoughts of the characters, but that's not necessarily the case. He could have simply wanted to paint the image that the character was in a hospital, the curtains were blue because he wanted to put the image of a hospital in the reader's mind, but the characters and what they do don't necessarily have anything to do with that.

>if the author describes a calming scene (including yeh curtains) then that has meaning in conjunction with the scene
That's your own assumption. The author could've described what in his mind was a generic hospital, independent from the rest of the scene. It could've been a tense scene with blue curtains. You can analyze that as a funny irony but at the end of the day that's your analysis. You can absolutely interpret anything any way you want, and again, that doesn't make it align with the author's intent.

>If the curtains are irrelevant to the vibe or meaning of the scene, then the writer is shit writer
My guy, have your criteria for writers be any way you want. You're actually giving me the concession here. You're saying you CAN find irrelevant descriptors that don't mean anything, and that's a characteristic of "shit writers". So there you go. It can happen.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:54:18 AM No.717304007
>>717303817
>Writing is a deliberate exercise
"Lol," he said.
Lmao, I added, as some things must be addressed by a higher party.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:54:37 AM No.717304034
>>717302296
https://archive.org/details/psychic-tv-first-transmission/Psychic+TV+First+Transmission+1.mp4
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:55:22 AM No.717304082
>>717304034
What's this?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:55:24 AM No.717304084
>>717299698 (OP)
>STOP NOTICING!!
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:56:24 AM No.717304138
>>717301050
>dude just turn off your brain, its just writing
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:56:33 AM No.717304149
>f******
oh no not the fuck word!!!! We can't say THAT because um... we can't!
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:59:04 AM No.717304308
>>717304007
you know whats sad about your ignorance? you hate that anyone can think differently
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:59:08 AM No.717304312
>>717301050
Apparently they were taught that every single word was ultra deep deliberate meaning shit, so they got nuts trying to figure out everything and probably never finish a single book because it's so exhausting. That nutcase mentality probably makes them be very irritable.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:59:57 AM No.717304354
>>717303817
The book would feel empty without a description of the physical locations it's situated in
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:00:23 AM No.717304376
>>717303995
>the curtains were blue because he wanted to put the image of a hospital in the reader's mind, but the characters and what they do don't necessarily have anything to do with that.
so if it has nothing to do with the characters, then it clearly is relevant to the author’s own mindset since they author wanted to describe a specific image for a reason? Otherwise why waste time going into specificities if they are not relevant? Unless your writer is Ulillillia, but that still is relevant in analysing what type of person Ulillillia is. Because you forget another thing about literary analysis, that the author is as much a character as anyone else in the book and that they themselves more than even the work are being analysed
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:00:24 AM No.717304378
>>717301050
they read english and don't know what it means despite using it every day.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:01:34 AM No.717304439
>>717304082
Just watch it, it’s really cool
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:02:29 AM No.717304481
>>717304312
>hey why did they mention the curtains?
>dude stop noticing
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:02:43 AM No.717304494
>>717303817
>Why even mention the colour of the curtains, or the curtains at all if the author didn't mean anything by it.
Because he feels like it, that is it.
You are an imbecile that never wrote anything besides soulless and utilitarian HR emails, you wouldn't understand.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:03:54 AM No.717304572
>>717304378
That's probably what this OP meltdown is really all about. Fuming at a mental incompatibility with the English language and its sometimes humorously meaningless additives and nuances. They CONFOUND esls.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:04:14 AM No.717304595
>>717304494
sounds like you've only ever read HR emails if you can't understand the possibility that some writers like to add symbolism to their writing
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:04:23 AM No.717304608
>>717304494
Then why can’t why we analyse why the author feels that way?
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:04:32 AM No.717304618
Why do they keep using the curtains are blue example? Is it just teacher ragebait? If instead the example was like “the crown was never as heavy as it was during the rebellion” or some shit nobody would unironically try and claim somebody was slowly increasing the physical weight of the crown in order to give the king neck pain
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:04:56 AM No.717304643
>>717304376
Sure. I guess that means the author... was recommended to add more descriptors to the scene, or for some reason thought it would make his story look "fuller" if he added that descriptor there.
This is moving goalposts territory here. The OP image talked about author intent. The author intended to say the curtains were blue without any further relevance to the story. You can try to make some meaning out of it, I won't argue with you there, but it'll probably be very strawgraspy and, again, has nothing to do with the topic.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:05:50 AM No.717304697
you can't just directly say how you feel in your writing, THAT MAKES ME SO ANGRY
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:05:56 AM No.717304703
>>717304618
time to reply:

The crown is heavy because the king lost weight. He lost weight because he's on the run.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:07:13 AM No.717304781
>>717304643
Editors usually take away garbage that doesn’t add the story, not add to it
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:07:28 AM No.717304791
4a4eaac233a3c1bf3a8a9baa32fcbc3b--dog-paintings-dog-art-2262196980
its just a dog starring at a door assholes
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:07:54 AM No.717304816
>>717304481
Actual fucking schizo lol.
I'm not saying that at all. "Notice" all you want and keep posting your schizo ramblings here. It's entertaining
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:08:39 AM No.717304867
>>717302043
Underrated
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:09:15 AM No.717304907
>>717304816
>I'm not saying that at all
you understand how ironic this sounds right
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:09:24 AM No.717304916
so if I write
>It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was a heap of raw iron
does this not convey something about the strength of the character that wields it? could it not be interpreted as a representation of the character's determination, discipline, and will? cause, pee pee poo poo that sounds pretty plausible desu ne.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:10:24 AM No.717304964
>>717304781
You're not denying it can happen, you're just saying you don't like it.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:10:29 AM No.717304970
>>717304916
i don't get it, why not say its just a really big sword that was hard to carry
its confusing for the reader
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:11:47 AM No.717305039
>>717304916
Sounds like you are taking about his penis
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:11:50 AM No.717305047
Famous-Romanticism-Paintings-318097494
Famous-Romanticism-Paintings-318097494
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its just a guy standing high up
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:12:04 AM No.717305060
>>717304970
because descriptive language better facilitates the artistry of the imagination as it weaves the portrayal of whatever is being described.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:13:42 AM No.717305160
meanwhile kojima
>Curtains are a special forces unit hired by Bill-Gatesman in 1776. he built his window viewing program called 'red-yellow-blue-green' to fund his time machine. green curtains? yeah that's 9/11. red curtains caused WW2. We've got to save the world from blue curtains before everyone hangs themselves. How? you might ask: Mamoru Oshii Pizza Karate.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:14:07 AM No.717305181
american-diner-painting-11-326452012
american-diner-painting-11-326452012
md5: d0ae97c470dc16d2c33984ff5c95e802🔍
jesus christ guys they're just people at a dinner
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:14:32 AM No.717305201
>>717304916
>It was a hunk of raw ore mined from the Earth. Smiths would hang you to call it a sword, but that man did.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:14:57 AM No.717305229
>>717301443
American education quite literally makes demonizes actual education.
Certainly, learning how to use a wrench or a band-saw is a useful skill, true education, indeed this is what all children should be sent to school for.
But literature? Higher thinking? That's something for women and the effeminate to waste their time on and it holds no meaning in the "real world". You should be focused solely on the thing you'll do for the next 60 years of your life, and if you need to do something outside of that, that's what alcohol and TV is for.

In effect, all higher education became associated with something bad. Within the 2010s, any type of basic college/university taught 'critical thought' became intimately associated with a perceived new wave of Marxism- because criticism of the society you live in is obviously subversion, and we need to go on the news and get out guys on youtube to tell you about how bad all of this is, and how society is very perfect indeed, and these people are the bad eggs, very bad indeed, who need to be mocked relentlessly to show you that there is nothing to gain from educational pursuits.

I'd honestly say America is about a quarter of a century removed from outright deprecating its post-secondary options that aren't aligned with the direct school -> work pipeline. The only reason I can see for them remaining open is due to the money they bring in from international students, and the stop gap has been closed on that front.
Of course, they will remain open for the elites. After all, where else are they going to make those lofty connections?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:15:46 AM No.717305292
>>717301227
A writer including useless statements in their work is a bad writer.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:16:03 AM No.717305308
>>717305181
Yeah?
What else would this represent lol
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:16:24 AM No.717305330
>>717305229
before critical theory really took over the education down to even stem fields being a scholar was actually respected
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:17:24 AM No.717305381
hopper1954.031morning-sun_custom-e574394d8af6452f729eeee491ec4d8e49622690-s1600-c85-1767392846
>>717305308
its just a woman getting out of bed
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:17:49 AM No.717305398
>>717305160
hidetaka miyazaki
>scrap of blue curtain
>tie it around your neck to return to the last checkpoint. you'll lose your souls though.
>"for the curtain nights, blue is just a color. And yet.. One would be inclined to assume... more?"
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:18:25 AM No.717305429
1971.7-2879826195
1971.7-2879826195
md5: 2da6d1ff860ad6ef29895bd98c7b19a8🔍
>>717305381
its just a woman looking outside her house
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:18:31 AM No.717305440
>>717305381
If you actually think there's some ultra-deep hidden meaning to this, you have mental illness.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:20:04 AM No.717305527
>>717299698 (OP)
Nah, dude. The older you get the more you'll realize that you can literally make anything sound like it meant something else. Over-intellectualizing things is actually stupid. It's meaningless self-masturbation for your ego and no one else cares because it's not something that's important in life.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:20:30 AM No.717305560
affiche-hopper-new-york-movie-1849146965
affiche-hopper-new-york-movie-1849146965
md5: 65575174555d21c788def6d494291036🔍
>>717305429
>>717305440
its just a woman at the movies
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:20:47 AM No.717305580
God you people are retarded "the curtains are blue" complaint isn't that everything doesn't have meaning
its that some things don't have meaning
take this niggers pic of the dog >>717304791
The picture may have meaning but the color of the floor doesn't
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:21:03 AM No.717305596
>The vault to which I refer is of ancient granite, weathered and discoloured by the mists and dampness of generations. Excavated back into the hillside, the structure is visible only at the entrance. The door, a ponderous and forbidding slab of stone, hangs upon rusted iron hinges, and is fastened ajar in a queerly sinister way by means of heavy iron chains and padlocks, according to a gruesome fashion of half a century ago...
>I shall never forget the afternoon when first I stumbled upon the half-hidden house of death. It was in mid-summer, when the alchemy of Nature transmutes the sylvan landscape to one vivid and almost homogeneous mass of green; when the senses are well-nigh intoxicated with the surging seas of moist verdure and the subtly indefinable odours of the soil and the vegetation.

yeah man. creative writing is some cool shit.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:21:32 AM No.717305630
office-in-a-small-city-edward-hopper-4082218436
office-in-a-small-city-edward-hopper-4082218436
md5: e58a951c0bb9f47658811176411037e4🔍
>>717305560
its just a man looking out into the city
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:22:32 AM No.717305685
>>717305229
>became intimately associated with a perceived new wave of Marxism- because criticism of the society you live in is obviously subversion
no it was because of the massive amount of communist propaganda that had suddenly appeared within the required sections of the curriculum, jackass.
stop spewing bullshit to twist history.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:22:49 AM No.717305707
>>717304595
Writer here: sometimes I just want you to be able to imagine the setting.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:22:59 AM No.717305719
ev95cf0bqbwyajeftpl9
ev95cf0bqbwyajeftpl9
md5: 348c9c62d42095d5227e199e3a05f2e5🔍
>>717305630
its just a woman eating lunch
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:23:06 AM No.717305727
>>717305560
Notice how this guy keeps posting these paintings but cannot even come up with a simple explanation to any of them, and how they actually tell you about white supremacy/colonialism/feminism/other schizophrenic explanation that the voices whispered to him.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:23:13 AM No.717305736
>>717305630
These are kinda boring, post more interesting ones.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:24:07 AM No.717305795
>>717305330
thank you.
I am forever thankful as well that I got my college education just before all that bullshit hit.
sadly my younger sibling (by 4 years) was deluged in it from both the educational system and from their tumblr browsing.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:24:24 AM No.717305820
>>717305707
everyone is a writer, very few a good ones
good ones think a little harder than just "imagining the setting"
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:24:31 AM No.717305829
>>717305707
And then we’ll pick you apart and analyse you, as soon as you publish something you and your deepest self are being watched and observed
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:24:32 AM No.717305830
file
file
md5: f60658a1766031b65cc6520d0c13c2d7🔍
spambot
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:24:53 AM No.717305851
I interpret stories and media through my own lens and come to my own conclusions about the themes and subjects presented.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:24:54 AM No.717305854
>>717305160
square enix
>character out loud: "Who even cares... I-It's just a blue curtain!"
>*rainbow glitter*
>same character narrating: "Looking back on those days, I thought it was just a blue curtain, But really, I was the one who was blue."
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:25:12 AM No.717305879
>>717299698 (OP)
>he is pro vax
I hate zealous idealists so much, your kind is pest worse than roaches and rats
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:25:14 AM No.717305881
>>717305429
Oh geez, nice tits. Author was based
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:25:18 AM No.717305887
>>717305820
>the room is blank until it's meaningful
Sorry, but no. You're entirely up your own ass.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:25:38 AM No.717305910
>>717299698 (OP)
highschool english teachers are rarely that good at their jobs. Most of the shit they want you to get out of vague symbolism is grasping at straws and drawing unsupported conclusions from nothing just to fill out an essay.
But vague symbolism is still symbolism, the author would not have pointed out that the curtains are blue specifically unless that meant something, even if that something is just "vague feeling of melancholy in the scene" or maybe something as complex as "drawing a connection between the current scene and the ocean from the previous chapter."
And the average 85iq highschool student that has never read a novel in their life legitimately does not know that symbolism exists, sometimes an english teacher asks you to do retarded overthinking because the lowest common denominator needs the most extreme, overplayed to the point of parody example of it drummed into their heads to get it, and some of them do. The ones that don't go on to post shit like this image.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:25:46 AM No.717305917
>>717305830
that or just some dedicated shitposting.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:26:36 AM No.717305960
>>717305330
"Being a scholar" hasn't been something respected in decades dumbass. That's because it doesn't comply with what the powers that be desire.
The Cold War slowly but surely changed America. Men should not be educated- they should be machines. They should not be philosophers who consider deeply the actions they and their society partake in, rather, they should look up to easy to digest macho dudes with guns and military backgrounds.
This is precisely why higher education got "subverted"- the conservative minds in control do not want people actually receiving education, what they want is drones. Drones who can easily fit the roles of various menial tasks, and if need be, get drafted to be broken down and contorted into happy campers in the military. Of course, once they arrive on the other end and are shell-shocked and destitute, they will lack the brainpower to truly comprehend the injustices done to them, and instead return to the same menial tasks until they inevitably kill themselves.

So, higher education is left to those who remain (ignoring our untouchable elites, of course), men who are ostracized or women who are not the focus of the destruction of education. Of course, they also end up as victims, pushed by advertising to get phony business degrees so they can sit in offices talking about coffee and sex all day.
>>717305685
See above.
You've fallen for very basic propaganda. Someone receiving higher education reading Marx and being asked to apply Marx's principles and thoughts to their own society is hardly 'radical', that's the baseline for establishing critical thought- that you can consume something antithetical to your own life and use it to critique your own life.
But, if you take that and put it in a twitter post and go "They're teaching them there kids over at the brainwashin schools hot to subvert us!", then it becomes a tool of the enemy.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:27:00 AM No.717305982
soir-bleu-edward-hopper-1914-scaled-2226799596
soir-bleu-edward-hopper-1914-scaled-2226799596
md5: bb8189725f4df5cf80b7d7d453db6565🔍
>>717305736
its just a clown eating lunch
(also these except the first two posted are all the same artist)
do you notice any pattern? or are you adamant that you shouldn't notice anything
>>717305727
notice any patterns yet?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:27:15 AM No.717306002
>>717305879
i am god. go out and kill people
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:27:19 AM No.717306006
>>717305160
expedition 33
>yeah those curtains are made of dead nephilim blood. They turn white when enough humans die.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:27:26 AM No.717306020
>>717305830
>>717305917
It's a common conceit that is probably older than both of you.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:27:31 AM No.717306025
>>717305829
Some writers are into that. If someone made a retarded ass long blog post about something I did I would fap.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:28:01 AM No.717306054
>>717305960
thats exactly what i'm saying
critical theory and marxist thinking isn't something that started in the last 10 or even 20 years
>>717305795
sorry dude, it was to late for you as well
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:28:30 AM No.717306081
>>717302549
"Media literacy" fags don't stick to the obvious and incontrovertible allusions and historical context for writing, they constantly just make shit up.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:28:35 AM No.717306084
>>717305982
I said post more interesting ones. I like the color work here >>717305560
Do you have any better ones?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:29:01 AM No.717306110
>>717305887
it sounds like the writing you do is meandering and pointless
here's a tip. stop wasting the reader's time
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:29:48 AM No.717306154
>>717305982
Yeah, I noticed a pattern of you posting paintings and then describing what they are portraying as some sort of "gotcha".
I'm not mentally ill and don't make a conspiracy theory how a painting of a man eating a burger is a critique of capitalism.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:30:42 AM No.717306216
>>717305160
larian
>A blue curtain. You *could* slay a dragon, but where's the fun in that?
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:31:56 AM No.717306286
>>717306084
its just a guy at the gas station
(sorry this is the last Edward Hopper i posted)
>>717306154
i didn't mention shit about capitalism, you did
now try to do a more honest interpretation of what you think these paintings could possible mean

part of the fun of analyzing writing and art is for nuanced thought on them. i don't want to mention what i think of them so you're more free to have your own thoughts
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:32:57 AM No.717306347
1743385462132037
1743385462132037
md5: 998e6dc461265728bea9b1ad58704586🔍
>>717306154
Not him, but you're literally arguing why it's a good thing that you lack the capacity to understand something at a level deeper than the raw thing depicted.
You're arguing that it is GOOD that you cannot begin to consider the creations of a human being of something with merit or intrigue. That's indoctrination, you've been conditioned to not think.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:33:03 AM No.717306353
W1siZiIsIjQ1NzQxNyJdLFsicCIsImNvbnZlcnQiLCItcXVhbGl0eSA5MCAtcmVzaXplIDIwMDB4MTQ0MFx1MDAzZSJdXQ
>>717306286
woops
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:33:29 AM No.717306376
>>717305160
Atlus:
>originally the curtain was red, but the God of law banished it into turning blue
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:34:04 AM No.717306410
>>717306347
he thinks he's above brainwashing for not noticing, the irony is he's brainwashed
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:35:07 AM No.717306481
>>717306286
>its just a guy at the gas station
k
>(sorry this is the last Edward Hopper i posted)
Make yourself useful and post other artists then. You got any surreal elaborate paintings? I generally like those
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:35:22 AM No.717306501
If you posted ITT you are a retarded nigger newfag who has been probably talking to a bot
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:36:02 AM No.717306542
1742202951862472
1742202951862472
md5: 39c4ba7c7eed04aa3f0b6453e3eea24f🔍
>>717306286
>this is the last Edward Hopper
I'll add a tiny bit of variety into the painting spam with one more relevant to the realm of vidya.
This piece, Christina's World, directly inspired much of the first Silent Hill game, to a degree where I'd say Alessa and Cheryl take far more from this single painting than they do from any other works counted among the inspirations, including Carrie.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:36:19 AM No.717306561
>>717304791
come on im curious what is the meaning of the color of the floor
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:36:28 AM No.717306570
>>717304354
Sometimes yes. But why add the colour. Why mention the curtains specifically. Do you have to describe everything every time, even details that serve no purpose? Establishing a location is useful and some places might just be places, but writers don't usually put effort into atmosphere unless it serves a point.
>>717304494
Why are you so angry all the time
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:36:41 AM No.717306578
>>717306347
Intriguing. What propaganda did anon consume that made him think things don't have meaning? I'm interested.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:37:04 AM No.717306598
image
image
md5: 572d35225ebf6090edf71521c75012d8🔍
>>717305160
david cage
>"Jason?"
>*villain karma increased*
>end of chapter: 43% of players opened the blue curtain