I don't understand how anyone can enjoy an action game with combat this simplistic.

Git gud bro

People like the parry

>>717302064 (OP)
>combat this simplistic.
I bet you're one of those retards who just parries until posture break and doesn't weave in attacks or tools in between strings.

Are those giant sparks on deflect on a perfect or does it signify the end of an enemy's chain, signaling you're free to go back in.

>>717302064 (OP)
That's how I feel about the entire FPS genre.

>>717302064 (OP)
The greatest video games of all time are generally all simple.
Explain why simple is bad.

>>717302192
>Bro just make your own fun
It's the game's responsibility to ensure I have to use all of my tools to succeed

>>717302064 (OP)
I was told to try this game because according to /v/ it's not souls slop. attacks are mapped to the triggers and bumpers, dropped it immediately. glad I didn't pay for it.

>>717302554
Tetris has more moment to moment decision making than Sekiro, which is just about figuring out which one of the 2 buttons you mash on the beat

>>717302064 (OP)
Action games are plagued by DMCfags that whine about “muh complexity” and are incapable of understanding the appeal of 80% of the action genre.

>>717302554
In action games it's bad because it causes you to get bored faster. There's a reason nobody ever gets bored playing DMC, because there's a near endless amount of things you can do. Playing something as shallow as Sekiro guarantees the player will get bored with the game faster.

>>717302064 (OP)
Complexity has nothing to do with satisfaction. I'll take a steak with just salt over some gastro pub monstrosity with a thousand ingredients. This is the reason Sekiro bodied DMCV in awards season.

>>717302346
If you're talking about the circle, I'm pretty sure it's only on deflect.

>>717302724
>food analogy
Sure is reddit in here

>>717302064 (OP)
ever heard the phrase "simple but effective"?

>>717302697
>because there's a near endless amount of things you can do.
According to OP this makes DMC boring because that requires you to make your own fun.

>starts seething about DMC out of nowhere
kekkypow

>>717302064 (OP)
I don't know how people can enjoy an action game where you constantly have to obsess about stamina recover, combos, stances and shit.

>>717302672
>Move left
>Move right
>Rotate left
>Rotate right
Wow, so much more decisions to make then Sekiro.

>>717302749
I'll post a webm in the future if I figure it out. Might be my delusions acting up.

>>717302064 (OP)
that's because you cut your cock off

>>717302598
>It's the game's responsibility
women are not allowed here
beat it roastie

>>717302829
And now Nioh too!

>>717302346
I'm pretty sure they are. If I remember right, you get them too when you're attacking something and it's about to counterattack.

>>717302346
pretty sure that it's more sparks for a perfect, and a different sounding clang. i can't imagine that they'd make it signify the end of a chain, with how heavily the game relies on fakeouts.

>>717302064 (OP)
Nine Sols is superior in every regard.

>>717302697
>There's a reason nobody ever gets bored playing DMC
I got bored with DMC nearly instantly, but enjoyed Sekiro the entire way through. Looks like your entire hypothesis is faulty, faggot.

>>717303080
you can be a parry fag or play nioh like normal shame this shitty from game cant do it

>>717303348
I have a friend who feels the same way you do.

They happen to be trans.

>>717302064 (OP)
From games aren't action games, they're more like resident evil, except they mix some dungeon crawling elements (retards call this RPG elements) instead of adventure.

>>717303932
Sekiro is a proper action game.

>>717303086
>>717303114
>>717302749
It's noticeable on Genichiro. Needs an in-game tip, hard to explain to people when all you can say is "Bro do it when those sparks show up but not those sparks the other sparks."

I don't understand
why hasn't anyone posted IT yet?

>>717302697
>because there's a near endless amount of things you can do
It's all the same shit. You can have tons of variety with no complexity attached to it. Sekiro might appear simple when it comes to player's attacks, but the complexity stems from interracting with enemy move sets. In DMC you have a lot of tools for attacking enemies, but interracting with enemies boils down to taking them into the air and mashing out everything at your disposal.

>>717302346
The important question for you is, whose deflect? When you are deflecting, you can distinguish between blocking and deflecting via sound and visually easily, but the game never tells you when you are free to attack, the decision is up to you. When enemies are deflecting, the game makes their last deflect sound louder and throw more sparks so that you know for sure it's your turn to defend.

Play a real action game.

>>717303348
>I got bored with DMC nearly instantly
Because you wanted instant gratification. Hence why you preferred Sekiro.

>>717304057
Heh. "Proper."

>>717304057
It's not. Proper action games don't really bother with exploration, puzzles bosses, or large explorable terrain. The monastery fight is an example of this, while in DMC these elements are a holdover from RE and the series has slowly moved away from them.

Senior isn't pure action just because the combat is faster paced than Souls games.

>>717302064 (OP)
Funny how this action game elitists never post their DMC gameplay or something. I am sure they are capable of doing those super long combos against sandbag enemies. ;)

>>717302064 (OP)
correct

>>717304517
Sekiro requires more getting into than dmc though. In sekiro you are required to learn enemy move sets.

>>717304621
Sekiro*

>>717304621
All of these elements are optional. Otherwise you are implying ninja gaiden black is not an action game. Action games are defined by the combat system.

>>717302623
This sounds baity but you have a legitimate point
Trigger melee is fucking gross
Acceptable for AC due to the nature of having a mechanical and of course normal Souls titles because they aren’t combo happy action games, but why the fuck would you do this for Sekiro
Changed that shit immediately along with Nioh and SoP
Light on Sqwair, Heavy on Trange

>>717302598
>It's the game's responsibility to ensure I have to use all of my tools to succeed
there are pretty much no games that are like this other than very rail roady puzzle games. Almost every game has optional stuff.

>>717304658
>guy says he doesnt understand thing
>reply with correct
you "people" are nonsensical

>>717304946
>Trigger melee is fucking gross
Why? Never had any problems with it.

>>717304946
I don't know why it's a big deal, I can play any kind of action game fine with face button or shoulder button attacks. For SoP, it makes more sense to stick with shoulder buttons though due to the way magic is cast.

>>717304776
You could say this about any JRPG with real time combat, like Ys, and call it an action game. The fact is that combat is not their only focus, thus the action adventure subgenre.
Would you call Onimusha an action game? Tales of? The mana games?

>>717305234
Ys specifically is almost an action game series, yeah. The new Onimusha game will be an action game for sure, and I'm trying to remember details but I don't see anything stopping me from calling the first one an action game too.

>>717302064 (OP)
sekiro isn't a bad game by any means, but it is/was propped up by people who haven't played a lot of games and think it's the hardest game around.

>>717305670
>hard = good
Hate this meme. Very few games manage difficulty balance well. Sekiro is not a very hard game once you understand the combat system. It's good because it's fun, not because it's hard.

>>717305797
sekiro isn't a hard game in general. it's punishing, but there's only a few fights that are actually challenging. it still doesn't stop people who gush about the game from thinking that anyone who doesn't call it a masterpiece got filtered because the game was too difficult.

>>717305670

That is absolutely what it is. People who didn’t play other Souls games played Sekiro, mostly zoomies, and got filtered hard. Then Sekiro’s supposed difficulty became a meme, and people started to proclaim it the most difficult game ever made. And that status attracted more to the title. I mean it’s a good game and all, but it’s not THAT good, and it’s definitely not that hard. In fact, even compared to other Souls games, it isn’t particularly difficult.

hd

>>717306076
>People who didn’t play other Souls games played Sekiro, mostly zoomies, and got filtered hard.
And now same happened with Elden Ring, THE easiest Soulslop by far, until the Nightreign came.

The whole "franchise" has slowly become more and more casual throughout the decades.

>>717306074
>>717306076
If anything in this thread is hard it would be how hard you guys are trying to fit in here

>>717308316
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH