Why is there like 2 minutes of gameplay followed by 10 minutes of cutscenes, repeat?

Why is there like 500 different upgrades, moves, items, accessories, weapons, etc. to buy and like 10 different types of currency? They really thought grinding for shit in DMC was such a good idea (it wasn't), that they decided to quadruple down on it with an absurd amount of broken bullshit that you can buy???

Why is there like 50 different combo types? Who the fuck is seriously thinking on the fly "do I want to use kick, kick, kick, punch, or kick, kick, kick, brief pause, punch... hmmmm"????? Why not just have staple moves that actually perform a specific niche with tradeoffs instead of just dozens of mindless combos? All that accomplishes is your character looks flashy while you braindead mash.

>>717309571 (OP)
Your brain is too small to remember the best combos? Do you know how to use dodge offset?

>>717309754
I just started the game like 10 minutes ago, why the fuck would I know any of that shit.

However, I can already tell it's following the trend of every Platinum game (and DMC) where it seems hard at first then you realize it's just a shitty glorified grindy RPG where the """challenge""" is unlocking all the upgrades and then you steamroll through the "higher difficulties" with max ranks because they are literally easier than normal once you have upgrades.

For as much people like to shit on (old) God of War for being mindless dudebro games or whatever, at least those games understood restricting upgrades to just that current run and actually having tradeoffs and risk-reward to where you choose to allocate your red orbs.

>>717309571 (OP)
Go play god of war. Its probably up your alley

>>717309571 (OP)
your first point is valid
but that's about it.

>>717310435
Yes, it's actually a much more challenging and skill-based game and doesn't bog you down with hours upon hours of cutscenes.

Actually, Bayonetta is closer to NuGod of War if anything.

>>717309571 (OP)
>This game is bad because I'm bad at the core mechanics
How do you not feel like a pathetic little bitch expressing that sentiment in public?

>>717310667
>bad at the core mechanics
are you retarded? That wasn't stated or implied in the slightest

>>717310734
Oh lawd, you don't even realize how mad cuz bad you sound like jesus fucking christ neck yourself LOL

@717310827
>PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION I AM LITERALLY BEGGING YOU
lmao kys already subhuman

>>717309571 (OP)
filtered shitter

the issue with the combos/combo list is that they are superfluous
these basic grounded combos are easy but theres little reason for many of them to exist:tons are comically interchangeable and just stuff you do to deal damage in between dodge offset and build up to wicked weave
many new players will be distracted by all that instead of just focusing the more individual meaningful moves that let you do cool stuff
and yeah progression in bayonetta is terribly balanced. As opposed to MGRR (50% of it is lifted from bayo if youre not aware) which is much better balanced but also has barely anything in comparison

>>717310959
>*breathes*
>retards on /v/: SKILL ISSUE YOU SUCK LOLOLOLOL XD FILTERED
You just look like an idiot.

The game seemed cool to start with, then I started watching 30 minutes of cutscenes when I had played less than five minutes, then I get to the first shop and I see it has more bullshit to buy than a fucking JRPG. I mean this can't seriously call itself an action game, can it?

>>717310584
No and bayonetta, just like every other Platinun Games game, was made to be played on hardest difficulty.

>>717311341
Except the game is actually far easier in NSIC than normal because you have so many upgrades. Even Pure Platinum ranks are much easier as the scores are much more lenient.

You're a casual shitter retard and should kys.

Those aren't even the bad things about mayonetta
For me? It's the godawful, prolonged minigames.
I would execute Akira toriyama cartel style for tacking that retarded shit in every single one of his games.

>>717311101
FROMfags have been a detriment for fandom in general.

>>717309571 (OP)
If you didn't clear angel slayer, your opinion doesn't matter.

>>717310892
>being so passive aggressively butthurt about bants that you misquote on purpose
We didn't used to do this. You must be from a weaker generation of channer.

>>717309571 (OP)
filtered shitter

>>717310342
>>717309571 (OP)
idk if you are biased or just retarded, but you are meant to beat it with no items and accessories on your first run, and later you use accessories for fun and ignore items whatsoever
unlockable moves aren't super important not hard to get

>>717309571 (OP)
Not to be contrarian but I actually enjoyed this a lot more than DMC. But I didn't enjoy it enough to give it a second playthrough.

>>717313947
>you're suppised to play Dark Souls naked with your bare fists and no estus your first run ackchyually
Shut the fuck up retard. No one does this. The game does penalize items but just barely. You are 100% meant to use items

>>717315014
I did no items easily bro, it's not hard on your first run, items are for giga casuals who don't bother looking at the screen and learning how the game works

>>717315525
Unlocked moves, weapons, accessories aren't items you stupid mong. And I'm talking about NSIC Pure Platinum you retarded shitter.

>>717315771
>Unlocked moves, weapons, accessories aren't items
I... know...
>And I'm talking about NSIC Pure Platinum you retarded shitter
No, you literally weren't, you are just making shit up now, very sad anon

>>717316261
Penalize is regarding ranking you stupid fuck. Funny enough the game is literally easier Pure Platinum on NSIC with items than it is with NSIC no unlocks. It's the same bullshit crap in all these DMC/platinum games.

Also there is no reason to not use items your first playthrough, there is no reliable way to recover health outside of one accessory (which you shouldn't waste money on) or just dying and continuing. I guess unless you like the screen red and flashing the whole time you're playing.

You're such a retarded sack of shit lying through your teeth. Kys

>>717315525
>no items is easy when you completely ignore rank and die and continue infinitely

>>717317352
>and die and continue infinitely
are you just incapable of improving?

>>717309571 (OP)
Bought this game a while back while it was on sale but have yet to play it. Have one quick question: Should I play it with my pants on or off?

>>717309571 (OP)
The story is dumb as shit, but the combat is fluid and fun. I also enjoyed the atmosphere and soundtrack.

QTEs are absolutely bullshit btw.

>>717320210
On. Bayonetta is not as sexy as people make her and you will constantly see weird alien like shit and gore (unless you are into that I guess).

>>717310342
>grindy RPG where the """challenge""" is unlocking all the upgrades and then you steamroll through the "higher difficulties" with max ranks
You're not going to steamroll with max ranks, lmao. Getting pure platinums on hard even with everything unlocked still requires actual skill.

>10 minutes of cutscenes
What?

>>717309571 (OP)
>Who the fuck is seriously thinking on the fly "do I want to use kick, kick, kick, punch, or kick, kick, kick, brief pause, punch... hmmmm"?????
Surely you're not sitting there in the middle of combat actively actually thinking about this right? You're supposed to just learn the combos so that you instinctively use them as they're applicable, it provides flexibility, while additionally rewarding you by dealing higher damage with longer combos.
Also there really isn't even that many, you mostly have staple moves. PKP and <- K are going to be in constant use by any good player.
>All that accomplishes is your character looks flashy while you braindead mash.
It's for people like you, who don't want to put any effort into learning the combat system and just want to "hack n slash" through the campaign once without thinking very much while feeling very cool and good about yourself.

>>717309571 (OP)
>Why is there like 500 different upgrades, moves, items, accessories, weapons, etc. to buy and like 10 different types of currency?
What? There's halos and that's it. What other currencies are you talking about? Are you playing the right game?

>>717311471
Post your pure plats then you dumb retard. You probably haven't even played GoW or Bayonetta.

>>717309571 (OP)
You're supposed to skip the cutscenes.

You're right about the other points though. It's full of bloated nonsense. You only need to know like 3 combos to play the entire game.

>>717321315
>>717309571 (OP)
Oh and PS, the ONLY thing that's important in that game is Dodge Offset.
Which Kamiya purposely hid because he's a fucking dick.

Watch the first 6 mins of this video for an explanation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwA5Hw3jC-0