Thread 717409913 - /v/ [Archived: 92 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:44:34 AM No.717409913
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Here I fixed Fallout 4
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:47:02 AM No.717410027
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people hate this micromanaging nerd shit. the perk poster was based
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:47:14 AM No.717410030
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>>717409913 (OP)
Damn
Can I see this affects the dialogue systems, or entirely rewrites the main plot while ditching the whole legendary systems.
Because that shits what turned me off F4.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:47:47 AM No.717410062
fallout 4 dialogue vs NV3
fallout 4 dialogue vs NV3
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>>717409913 (OP)
impossible, because the largest issue with fallout 4 compared to 3/NV is pic related
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:47:48 AM No.717410063
>>717409913 (OP)
this looks so dumb, tiered trees always are shit

>>717410027
based
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:50:12 AM No.717410158
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>>717410030
>>717410062
There is a mod for that too
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:55:29 AM No.717410379
>>717410158
No there isnt because the issue isn't just UI. The NPC will give the same response to all 4 of the players inputs a majority of the time. Meanwhile in previous games each individual input you have will give an unique response from the NPC, with some having branching dialogue trees each continue an unique response within.

All the mod here does is give players the ability to see what the player character was going to say. It does nothing about the NPCs nonunique responses, making the whole point of different personality based choices in 4 itself even more retarded.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:04:05 AM No.717410725
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>>717410379
You should have played the game before you opened your mouth. It's actually hilarious how easy /v/ was psyoped to hate fallout 4 with a few specially selected screenshots
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:06:33 AM No.717410798
>>717410158
Does it add AI voices to give them new dialogue or something? What exists in the game is not enough for interesting conversations.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:15:40 AM No.717411079
>>717410798
>Does it add AI voices to give them new dialogue or something?
It just reuses vanilla dialogues. Fallout 4 NPCs talk a lot outside of dialogues and there is plenty of flexibility
I don't use this mod anyway, it's really not a problem and you're just whining that Fallout 4 isn't like NV. You still have plenty of variety in quests and choices in vanilla and that's enough
Bethesda would never write good dialogues (just look at Fallout 3) so it's for the better
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:20:10 AM No.717411265
>>717411079
I like Fallout 4 the same way I like the FarCry games. But without depth it just doesn't hold up in 2025 the same way NV still does. Why play Fallout 4 when Cyberpunk mogs it in every way?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:24:14 AM No.717411445
>>717409913 (OP)
>elder scrolls skill xp
no thank you. not in my fallout
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:26:22 AM No.717411531
>>717411265
And somehow there are still plenty of people playing it. And you can't even blame it all on porn like Skyrim because Fallout 4 looks terrible and doesn't have any porn mods
>Why play Fallout 4 when Cyberpunk mogs it in every way?
Opinion completely dismissed
Cyberpunk is absolute crap with nothing good about it. At least Fallout 4 has settlement building, world exploration, and decent mods.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:31:51 AM No.717411767
>>717410725
your image proves me right man
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:35:33 AM No.717411921
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>>717411767
It's literally cherry-picked dialogue, literally the same as picrel.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:36:08 AM No.717411953
>>717411921
It isn't though
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:41:20 AM No.717412157
>>717411921
>FO4 example has two variations, both have the same effect if selected
>New Vegas has two variations, one that informs and one that withholds
they are massively different. you are an absolute retard to believe otherwise.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:46:52 AM No.717412363
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>>717411953
It is. Fallout 4 dialogue system is dumb, but it's not as big a problem as you retards say. Picrel is essentially the same as most dialogues in NV.
>>717412157
You can simply exit dialogue windows in Fallout 4 so it literally the same
They simply shot themselves in the foot by always requiring a minimum of four answer options even when NV mostly only has two or three options
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:51:08 AM No.717412502
>>717412363
Try talking to every NPC in the railroad, and each time you select any choice, you'll be looped back into an answer that relays the same information

That means it is pointless that your character has 4 options, the NPC is always relaying back to you the same, fucking, words regardless of your 4 choices
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:53:26 AM No.717412593
>>717412502
>you'll be looped back into an answer that relays the same information
Thanks for confirming that you didn't even play it
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:54:53 AM No.717412656
>>717412593
Actually I did, and my specific example is from experience, how about you come up with a real argument
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:55:58 AM No.717412703
>>717412656
>how about you come up with a real argument
Your mother is a whore.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:56:26 AM No.717412724
>>717412703
and your father smells of elderberries, bah humbug anon
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:19:33 PM No.717413664
3 > NV > 76 > 4
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:30:30 PM No.717414059
>>717409913 (OP)
I liked the way New Vegas did it minus the skill requirements for perks because they were just stressful and required careful minmaxing and using guides.
The perks should only have level- and S.P.E.C.I.A.L. requirements, with your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. dictating the type of character you will evolve into eventually.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:00:44 PM No.717415173
>>717410379
Also note that it's always 4 choices, even when the dialogue doesn't warrant that many, or when it'd benefit from more. The writers would've alternated between bloated and restricted delivery across even a single, longer exchange between characters, and I wager it's a big reason for why dialogue in FO4 comes across as so saturday morning cartoon-ish. It's a terrible concept from the start, but they still went ahead with it.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:14:46 PM No.717415714
>>717410027
i have this shit
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:17:21 PM No.717415819
>>717409913 (OP)
can you fix the boring map
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:36:02 PM No.717416547
>>717411531
McDonalds has plenty of people eating there too so I guess it's gotta be great huh? I can imagine how low IQ you gotta be to like Fallout 4 but hate Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk does every single mechanic better than FO4 except base building, but if that's all you care about then 76 is better.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:39:09 PM No.717416650
>>717410027
>get the disarm perk
>use melee to disarm raider
>raider is forced to used his bare arms
>he can now hit faster than me and stun me
>he can now block all the damage from my super heated sledge with his bare arms
I can't believe they never tested their own game. No wonder Bethesda games suck now.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:44:39 PM No.717416872
>>717411921
are you a fucking retard?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:47:22 PM No.717417004
>>717409913 (OP)
Just use NV/3 system...
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:50:49 PM No.717417156
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>>717416650
You didn't expect that raider to know Hokuto Shinken
Omae wa mou shindeiru
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:04:24 PM No.717417721
>>717413664
I haven't played 3 much since it came out sadly, but I agree with the other rankings. 76 is just a complete advancement to 4 in every way. Map, Character builds, Weapon roster, Worldbuilding/Quests all are better. Too bad about the turbo-jew monetization though.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:12:14 PM No.717418045
>>717412363
>You can simply exit dialogue windows in Fallout 4 so it literally the same
Except interaction is postponed, not progressed.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:27:52 PM No.717418726
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>>717409913 (OP)
I don't know why people waste their time reinventing FO4's perk system. The gameplay is just combat, building/crafting and selling loot. You can't use medicine to cure that dumb molerat aids or shit like that, you just put points in medicine to get more stimpak healing.
I can understand mods that replace trash perks with somewhat useful ones, but there is no point in adding skills and shit when you are still doing the same old "level up luck to deal more crit damage" or "level up [weapon] skill/perk to deal more damage with [weapon]".
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:39:12 PM No.717419247
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>>717410062
>Starfield fixes this "problem"
>people still hate on it
The souls jap delivers the same game, with the same issuesevery year, yet you love him.

Todd listens to player feedback and develops his games around it, but you still call him names like scammer and liar.

Yall just wanna nitpick Bethesda games for internet points, you dont care about legitimate criticism.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:41:02 PM No.717419330
>>717410027
What are you saying, too many options?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:45:21 PM No.717419506
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>>717419247
starfield is difficult to play for a laundry list of other reasons
and yes I did play it, mods can't fix a lot of what the problems are, as in they haven't been able to yet.

Of course a lot of the issue is also their progression system, they built it up with the idea of people replaying new game+ but not just new game+ but new game+++++ and yet they didn't really do a lot to justify it.

In the Fallout universe and Elder Scrolls there is just enough built up lore to keep you hooked

they picked the most boring time their game could be set in for Starfield, and none of the factions really shined.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:48:36 PM No.717419653
>>717410063
Isn't Fallout 4's perk chart tiered too?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:57:49 PM No.717420069
>>717410027
>>717410063
>>717410725
>>717411079
>>717411531
>*crying failed normalfag noises*
Kill yourself you shit taste faggot
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:02:33 PM No.717420312
Fallout 3 is the only one

And somehow fallout 76 isn't that bad

But fallout 4 is shit and so is yours
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:10:40 PM No.717420725
>>717413664
>>717417721
can 76 be played offline yet? I'd be down for a desolate, empty wasteland devoid of other humans if it meant I didn't have to deal bethesda's writing.

>>717419247
what do you mean "fixes"? it's still absolutely atrocious writing and dialog, and the game is an absolute chore to play anyway, meaning that any enjoyment you could possibly wring from any of starfield's systems is fucking worthless because you spend half the damned game in the fast travel menu going from planet to planet.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:16:05 PM No.717420990
>>717420725
Name 1 space game where you aren't in menus tho
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:29:16 PM No.717421739
>>717419247
>Starfield fixes this "problem"
>by reverting most of the way to fallout 3
If only Bethesda was capable of improving themselves past where they were in 2011.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:31:47 PM No.717421885
>>717418726
>The gameplay is just combat, building/crafting and selling loot
The gameplay is fine. The problem is it's accompanied by the most boring and retarded main quest ever written for an RPG. Some of the side quests are fine to good but the main quest line is terrible.