If your game has loading screens after the main menu, it's not an open world game.

>>717421793 (OP)
>bethesda games are not openworld
Check-mate openworld haters

>>717421793 (OP)
>waiting a few seconds to load a map
vs
>travelling across a vast field of nothing for a couple of minutes just to get to the next interesting set piece
>fast travel is the closest thing to a level select

Why did they stop making skater games?

>>717421969
>I NEED BING BING WAHOO ACTION KEYS JINGLING IN MY FACE EVERY 2 MINUTES OR I GET BORED
The hate for quiet open worlds is so mentally challenged

>>717421956
correct

>>717422012
the success of rock band and guitar hero made them hastily make crap like Tony Hawk Ride and it died

>>717421793 (OP)
>you should spend 15 minutes walking across the map because fast travel = loading and that would disqualify game from being open word according to this one 4chan retard
Ok retard.

>>717421793 (OP)
CALIFORNIA
UBER ALLES

>>717422237
>fast travel loading to a city
vs
>walking 15 minute then clicking on the city gate and loading into the city
Yeah, not open world

>>717422012
they're actually really technical and require a ton of dev trickery. At least THPS clones would. So your average indie retard can't be expected to figure it out. Your average programmer couldn't make a custom character controller from scratch to save their lives and thats just the first step. Then you have to figure out things like how you don't actually ever leave the "ground" thps. It's all smoke and mirrors.

>>717422369
Yeah, definitely retard.

>>717422181
Watch a movie.

>>717423525
It has nothing to do with "le movie game". There's bing bing adhd games, just like there are bing bing adhd movies, and the inverse for both.

>>717423030
>you don't actually ever leave the "ground" thps. It's all smoke and mirrors.
whaaaaaaa?
is this true?

>>717422181
>I NEED BING BING WAHOO ACTION KEYS JINGLING IN MY FACE EVERY 2 MINUTES OR I GET BORED
This can be used as an for open world games too, ya'know.
You can't sit still for a 20 second long loading screen, so you NEED to be able to hold the 'W' key and walk through empty overworlds

>>717423923
I don't care about le loading screens debate. My point is just that people who don't have adhd dont need there to be bing bing action 24/7 and are able to just soak in atmosphere and enjoy quiet parts of a videogame. The action is more impactful when it isn't constant. The quietness and action compliment eachother, when you intersperse them together.

>>717422181
>padding good
>too much gameplay bad

>>717424853
Most "padding" is done through repetitive gameplay, not quiet exploration.

>>717423030
>Then you have to figure out things like how you don't actually ever leave the "ground" thps. It's all smoke and mirrors.
Why would it matter how exact it's programmed if the end result is the same?

>>717422181
Traversing the open world should be a unique experience. It shouldn't be just endless going back and forth through the same area you've already been through. When we play video games we want our open worlds to feel like enchanted forests and uncharted islands and vibrant cities and so on. We don't want a boring daily commute.

>>717425991
I'm 80% sure American Wasteland has fast travel.