Thread 717521163

Everyone says it's so much fun.
12 hours in, I quit. Yeah I'm done.
I liked Zelda more before the 64...

>>717521163 (OP)
L ragebait

It has very good pacing, memorable areas and has aged well

>>717521163 (OP)
All tendieshit is garbage.

>>717521163 (OP)
retard

The magic never left, we just got older. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InkKkTcw9_A&list=RDInkKkTcw9_A&start_radio=1

>>717521163 (OP)
I think it is very good and I love it a lot :)

>>717521163 (OP)
advance filtered

>>717521627
same

It is mediocre compared to LTTP but it's still pretty good

>>717521163 (OP)
Too many cutscenes imho.

>>717521163 (OP)
How are you 12 fucking hours into an 8 hour game at most

>>717522007
OoT is a 20 hour game unless you're a speedrunning tranny

>>717521163 (OP)
>Why is this game so damn adored?
Because it's a near perfect video game,
and one of the best cases of 2D to 3D jumps.

It stands on its own, and inspired the entire industry.

>>717522153
It's fucking 8 hours at most if you're not grabbing everything how are you this fucking bad holy shit kid

It's been gaslit and grandfathered into prestige it doesn't deserve by nintoddlies desperate for a hallmark title. It's a mediocre game at best.

>>717521163 (OP)
>entire thread misses the Brentalfloss reference
I hate Zoomers so much it's unreal.

>>717522582
brentalfloss was cringe garbage i judged anyone who watched that BS

>>717521336
plus out of a lot of old games it still feels very much playable and doesn't suffer from the "clunkiness"

>>717521163 (OP)
>12 hours in, I quit. Yeah I'm done.
Water temple huh? Brother, I been there

>>717522582
sorry for not recognizing your eceleb garbage

>>717521163 (OP)
Just watch EgoRaptor's video on Ocarina of Time. It exposes how bad this game is.

>>717522582
>Stop before you say something you might regret
>Why're we always fighting on the Internet?
>Fandom starts with love, there's no need to shove
Too much soul for nu/v/

>>717521163 (OP)
idk maybe you don't like that kind of game. oot and mm are two of my favorite games and they still hold up mainly because of rando.

>>717523096
tell this to fallout fans

>>717522582
>Brentalfloss
Yeah the only thing I know about that fag is that he was Toad in Duane and Brando's Mario 3 rap.

>>717521163 (OP)
>>717522582

>>717522582
That song came out in 2014. Zoomers would have been the ones listening to it and most of them probably agreed with Brentalfloss.

>>717522582
>mentions some literal who zoom zoom content creator
>calls others "zoomers"
go back.

>>717522941
>Just watch EgoRaptor's video on Ocarina of Time
Damn nigga!

>>717522371
Horseshit. The story is easily between 20 and 30 hours.

>>717521163 (OP)
>I liked Zelda more before the 64...
>said the person who plays all games in order of release

you have yet to 100% zelda 2, get back to it.

God tier music

My biggest problem is how empty the world is, there isn't much to do other than just following the main quest. Majoras Mask at least had a bunch of different quests

>>717526443
>there isn't much to do other than just following the main quest.
Well yeah retard that's typically what a game is for going from A to B

>>717522582
>caring about eceleb bullshit
>calling others zoomers
lol, lmao even

>>717525831
Yeah if you fucking suck apparently imagine spending 5 fucking hours on a dungeon are you retarded

>>717521163 (OP)
>>717521163 (OP)
>>717521163 (OP)

Played banjo kazooie yesterday and felt like I was 9 years old again playing it on my N64.

>>717526520
Why can't there be stuff to see between going from A to B instead of just being a walking simulator. There is no justification for including Hyrule Field in this game, its just a waste of space

>>717521163 (OP)
Its fun
/fpbp
/thread

>>717526908
Because it's 4MB

>>717526908
It gives the game the feeling of adventure and exploration. If you don't like walking for long periods of time in games that's okay, Ocarina of Time isn't for you. But that doesn't make it a bad game, it just means it's a different experience, one that's meant to be more immersive.

>>717526908
>>717527075
Anyway they put in a bigger field with things to see in TP and it didn't improve anything. It's just liminal space to separate forest, volcano, desert, lake worlds, it's not supposed to be anything

>>717521163 (OP)
It's the greatest game of all time

Meanwhile people complain about modern open world games being job simulators or content bloat. I think OoT has the perfect balance

>>717521163 (OP)
Lazy ass bait but it will still work.

>>717527075
>>717527104
Yeah but when playing it in 2025 its a downside. Try to see games more objectively rather than pretend it still the 90s. Majoras mask was much better in that regard but the dungeons sucked ass in that one

>>717526908
>There is no justification for including Hyrule Field in this game,
It's cool, and it's a perfect place to gallop with your horse.

>>717527498
This. Hyrule field is the heartpiece of the game. The reason the game felt so vast back then.

>>717521163 (OP)
you suck. this game is ez

>>717527481
That's like looking at a painting and complain that it's not photorealistic by modern standards because we have cameras now

>>717527730
paintings have never been about being photorealistic, and paintings past a certain time did objectively suck like all that medieval shit

>>717527914
>paintings have never been about being photorealistic
hurp a durp
no because photorealistic wasn't a thing, because photography wasn't even invented yet

>>717526597
Here's a blind playthrough that's 20 hours. Tell me if it's 5 hours per dungeon
https://www.yame.ninja/?title=oca

Post your blind playthrough that's 12 hours. In fact post any. Go on

>>717528620
I would but I'd have to time travel back to fucking 1998

>>717525262
You're being too literal. Zoomer now just means "doesn't like old things and is culturally illiterate when it comes to anything older than a decade." Just like Boomer means the opposite, and most "Boomers" are actually Millennials.
The responses to that post are quintessential Zoomer reactions ("I didn't get the reference and ended up getting trolled, but that's A GOOD THING, Actually"), attempting to reframe ignorance as a virtue, because god forbid we miss an opportunity to have yet another "popular old thing bad" thread. OP was doing something much more interesting, and the failure to appreciate that makes one a Zoomer, at least in spirit if not literally.
And don't even try to say that missing the reference on purpose and taking the bait ironically is the play here. Zoomers never discovered the art of counter-trolling.
>most of them probably agreed with Brentalfloss
The Zoomer Brentalfloss would actually be saying that BotW sucks and OoT was better. I doubt most have even played LttP.

>>717521336
>and has aged well
Lack of camera control and a dedicated jump button ages it badly. Not even modern zelda games stick with that approach.

>>717529251
>You're being too literal. Zoomer now just means "doesn't like old things and is culturally illiterate when it comes to anything older than a decade." Just like Boomer means the opposite, and most "Boomers" are actually Millennials.
Nah you're just trying to give idiots who misuse these words the benefit of the doubt, which is in itself a stupid thing to do. They misuse these words because they are in fact as dumb as they sound.

I like Potatotonigger's take on the game basically saying it's overhyped and overpraised far beyond the point any game could live up to and it's retarded to judge it by those impossibly high standards, but it's still enjoyable today as it was back when it came out.

>>717529254
Oh no! Such scathing criticism towards a minor inconvenience at the time means the game is basically unplayable now! Retard.

>>717529647
>at the time
That's precisely what "ages badly" means anon. At the time it was a minor inconvenience because you didn't know better. Nowadays in a time when its standard for every game to give you direct control of the camera and the ability to jump at any time so you don't feel rooted to the floor you suddenly realise how restrictive it is.

>>717521163 (OP)
For as adored and loved as it is I never remember anyone playing it or owning it back in the day. Everyone had Goldeneye, Starfox, Star Wars etc.

>>717529348
>They misuse these words because they are in fact as dumb as they sound.
I always laugh to myself whenever an underagedb& calls me or anyone a "Boomer" online because I can't help but imagine how insecure whimp they must be irl. It's such a weak, childish insult on par with how the nu left call people "chud", which is ironic considering how these nu gen faggots talk to each other and refer to things in a sexualized, ironic baby-like manner.

>>717530273
Probably because you were invited over to play Goldeneye just like everybody else retard. It's not a multiplayer game.

>>717521163 (OP)
the amount of profit it made and magazines dick riding the amount of money it made. seriously, that is it.

Not only was it not even the best game released that year, it also wasn't the best N64 game released that year. However, the game cost $59.95 in 1998 which is $118 today.

It made Nintendo $455 million dollars (896 million today)

>>717529884
Jump button was already criticized "at the time", which means from the start, not it "aged badly". The camera is perfectly fine for a Zelda game too.

>>717529884
>suddenly realise how restrictive it is.
Hopefully I'm not dealing with ACfag here.
The game's got some clunk, but in retrospect it's really not as bad as you're making it out to be and that you either don't like grounded adventure games or you're autistic and hate games with minor limitations -- likely both. Also if you're willing to criticize OoT just based off that than you'd also have to agree that tank controls in RE vidya is also "dated".

Also since the PC port exists it's essentially become a non-issue now.
Even reimplementing the jump button back into the game just makes the platformering even more awkward and only serves it's purpose of hopping over small ledges, so it was a good decision that Nintendo decided to remove it.

>>717521416
this. it's a cult for trannies and manchildren.

>>717521163 (OP)
>can't beat OoT in less then 12 hours
Unironically a skill issue lol.

>>717531858
S-Shut up it's a 20 hour game

>>717532374
Suuuuure it is, 20 hours*
*as stated by game reviewers

>>717521163 (OP)
It's unironically one of the best games ever made

>>717522941
>WAAAAAHHH WHY DOES EVERYONE SUCK Ocarina's POOPY ASS DICK IT SUCKS DIARRHEA BUTT FARTS WHY WONT THE GAME JUST LET ME FUCKIN MINDLESSLY WHACK ENEMIES LIKE A *says Nigger 30 times* Zelda WAS SUPPOSE TO BE Ys THATS WHAT IT WAS FROM ITS ROOTS! 3D BAD! 2D GOOD! INNOVATION BAD! CONSERVATION GOOD!
There I just saved you 10 long boobless hours.

>>717531471
It's a lack of a jump button that's the problem.
>The camera is perfectly fine for a Zelda game too.
But not even Zelda games use this approach now.
>>717531653
>than you'd also have to agree that tank controls in RE vidya is also "dated"
Yes and no. It is a mark of the times and there's a reason Capcom refuses to make a game like that now. But at the same time there was a benefit to it. There's a reason you see indies try to do old style fix camera horror still. It lent great for the horror atmosphere. Indies making games that are a homage to classic 3d zelda do just cut the crap and let you control the camera because there's really no reason for that restriction.

Basically one genre's horror, where a restriction on your view and the claustrophobia of fixed camera works really well. The other's adventure, where you really would want the player to be able to look around.

>>717532860
He was specifically talking about his playthrough on Gamegrumps

>>717522582
Probably because he's a dobson tier faggot

>>717530831
nah i remember looking through their game libraries and such. no one ever talked about this game either amongst friends or in school. maybe because i was slightly older when it came out (12) but not that old. maybe its because zelda is babbies first rpg

>>717533624
Zelda isn't even an rpg retard

>>717531974
Dude on the bottom middle literally just grew his hair out and drew some freckles

>>717522582
let me guess...96er? rofl

>>717521163 (OP)
>12 hours in
it's only 8 hours long

>>717532981
>It is a mark of the times
Not when Syphon Filter exists.

>The other's adventure, where you really would want the player to be able to look around.
I'll take that as a concession that you didn't play the game.
>B-But the first-person camera that doesn't count! We're specifically talking abou-
Git gud.

>12 hours in
That's about double the length of an average playthrough

>>717521163 (OP)
All Zelda games are overrated, except Minish Cap

>>717521163 (OP)
cause its a nintento game. nintento fans notoriously don't know any better because their experience is limited to nintento systems. this is why they get excited when banjo kazooie nuts and bolts is rereleased as a zelda game.

>>717536023
Put it like this. You want the player to be able to look around because they're having an adventure. You don't want looking around to be extremely awkward to do.

Also why are you accusing me of not playing the game if you're already anticipating me knowing you're referring to the shitty first person cam?

>>717527481
Games aren't technology, they are art. Telling someone to look at art objectively is an oxymoron that only pseudo-intellectuals will play into. Looks like no one took the bait tho, which gives me faith that OoT chads truly are the most based of men

>>717522941
>Egoraptor
Reddit is that way.

>>717521163 (OP)
Babby's first.

>>717521163 (OP)
Low wisdom

>>717522582
There's a very limited amount of time for streamers so I dedicate it to more important people like Ina

>>717531463
>Not only was it not even the best game released that year, it also wasn't the best N64 game released that year.
I know of course I'm just going to get some contrarian drivel as a reply but humor me: what WAS the best N64 game released that year?

>>717539081
>You want the player to be able to look around because they're having an adventure. You don't want looking around to be extremely awkward to do.
You might as well just admit you're a pretentious Zoomer when your whole argument that OoT's "aged badly" boils down to "but it's le clunkyyyy".

That same argument applies to RE too with it's awkward controls and fixed camera angles that take a half second to load the next jpg, but hypocritically you gave that a pass based off it's immersive presentation.
In that same vein, OoT's camera adds to the immersion too, because switching to first-person puts you in Link's shoes for a bit and it's a slow placed game where you're meant to take your time and be aware of your surroundings. Granted I'd argue the game's environments and puzzles aren't that complex or it's world that dangerous as something DeS/DaS, but it was a start and the somewhat restrictive camera worked to the game's advantage, more or less. Interestingly, Shiggy originally wanted the game to be in first-person. Bet you wouldn't have bitched about the camera then.

I played it as a kid, therefore it's the greatest video game ever made and to this day no other game has come anywhere near it in terms of quality. For as long as I live, no matter how good a new game may be, I will never recognize it as superior to the game I played when I was 8.

Get with the program and acknowledge it as the greatest game ever made or fuck off, zoomie. Games from the millennials' childhoods must stay at the top of the "greatest games ever made" lists in perpetuity.

>>717532983
There is literally nothing in that post implying that's what he meant. He clearly means the shitty ragebait analysis he made of the game.

>>717544540
Butthurt zoomer detected

>>717544540
Nice non-argument zoomie.

>>717521163 (OP)
https://youtu.be/-dXeMVHGeTU

>>717521163 (OP)
It's tendie millennials who grew up on it who only had an N64. That's it. If you actually played games in the 90s, you found it boring. It's like Skryim, The Witcher 3 or RDR2 today.

>>717544540
Ocarina of Time is well regarded because the gaming medium started to become corrupted because of how good it is.
Similar to the Beatles, the greed of OoT ankle-biters ruined gaming
There have been relatively few emotionally honest video games made by professionals over the years , sure you got RE4, Kingdom Hearts, Age of Empires II
but overall a highly coordinated team is most likely going to put out slop because they have no soul

>>717525419
What up muh nigs

>>717527481
>but when playing it in 2025 its a downside

Then you don't think that way you goddamn retard. It's the greatest video game ever made. You assess it as if you're playing it in 1998. It doesn't fucking matter if you think it isn't as good in current year. It was fucking incredible in 1998 and so you can't say it isn't now.

>>717522582
It's one of his best songs, uses multiple tracks so nice.

>>717544516
>You might as well just admit you're a pretentious Zoomer when your whole argument that OoT's "aged badly" boils down to "but it's le clunkyyyy".
Clunkiness is how a lot of old games end up aging yes. Put this in perspective though. I don't consider Link To The Past clunky and think it aged better.
>but hypocritically you gave that a pass based off it is immersive presentation.
Yes it is in fact different when it lends to the genre in question. Already explained that.

>because switching to first-person puts you in Link's shoes for a bit
Nah it just draws attention to how awkward the first person camera is.

> Interestingly, Shiggy originally wanted the game to be in first-person. Bet you wouldn't have bitched about the camera then.
I'm guessing it would have been like GoldenEye control-wise which definitely aged in its own regard. Being stuck with a controller with just one stick was always going to be a problem.

>>717544756
What were you playing in 1998 that was so much better than Ocarina of Time?

>>717543956
I'd like to know too with substantive proof, but that anon's likely a bitter contrarian basing his metric on nothing considering Jewgle keeps saying OoT was the highest rated game back then.

>>717545148
FF8

>>717521163 (OP)
Did you get your opinion from Arin Handson or something? I can't stand top-down Zelda like ALTTP, personally

>>717547463
lol

Played it for the first time last year as never played a Zelda or had an N64. It's alright. 7/10
Nice music, dungeons are fun, nice feel and aesthetic, good level design.
Combat and bosses are pretty braindead though.

It must have been incredible playing as a kid in 98 though. Mogs pretty much every childhood game I played at the time on PS1 except for MGS1.

>>717522371
Some people enjoy the games and don't use guides or internet everytime the get stuck like faggot zoomers

>>717547463
I liked FF8 back then
It is not better than Ocarina.

>>717547601
gay homosexual. top down zelda is best zelda, and the only not so good zelda is open world zelda NIGGER!!!!!

>>717548175
Not an argument you fucking casual zoomer filth go back to Fortnite

The hyrule field complain is ridiculous. First of all, its really small, you reach any destination super fast, specially because they main ones are all close to each other.
But also, and this is the part that is never mentioned, its practically optional! The game has instant travel through the Ocarina.
Any time you see someone insist on Hyrule field, you know they are just desperate.