Name a worse area in any game ever. Pro tip: you cant.

>>717537186 (OP)
I know it's cool to hate certain games because your favorite youtuber told you so, but if you actually played the series you'd know that the worst area is New Londo Ruins in DS1 and basically every fucking swamp in Dark Rolls 3

>>717537186 (OP)
Not even the worst are in DS2 are you even trying?

>>717537186 (OP)
not even top 5 worst areas in the game lol

>>717537487
Trash Souls III has "only" 3 swamps, of these Crucifixion Woods is chill and not bad at all, the Abyssal Swamp in TRC would not be bad if not for the respawning summoner giant blocking off half of it. Farron Keep, however, has no redeeming factor.

>>717537596
whats worse?

>>717537487
>New Londo Ruins
No, New Londo is King's Field kino

>>717537686
iron keep
shrine of amana
gutter/black gulch
dark chasm of old
all 3 dlc optional boss areas

It’s easy to run to the skeleton boss

>>717537186 (OP)
If you actually played the game you'd know its black gulch

>>717537881
Iron Keep and the Gutter are fun as hell if you aren't a boring faggot that complains when enemies hit you when you ignore them
Some places suck but in a good way, like Valley of Defilement, Tomb of the Giants, that one boss arena in the Caelid Swamps, these places suck good because they reward long-term caution by making short-term reactions easier to get away with (i.e., health regen in the swamp, playing with what land you have available, taking it slow enough to see the dogs and doing a jump attack)
Meanwhile other places just suck for reasons being Batman prepared won't fix

>>717537487
What's wrong with New Londo? It's right behind my favorite out of the post lordvessal areas. My favorite being the Catacombs into Tomb of the Giants.

>>717537881
>shrine of amana
oh right i forgot about it, THAT place sucks

Frigid Outskirts

>>717537186 (OP)
I like this area oddly enough... but i'm also gay

>>717537186 (OP)
that's not even the worst zone in that game, retard

uh no

>>717537487
You meant demon ruins right? it's like objectively incomplete, I don't see how you couldn't prefer New Londo.

>>717537186 (OP)
If you think that's the worst you'll blow your brains out when you get to the endgame and the DLCs.

>>717539543
The worst zone in the base game will always be black gulch. I can't think of a redeeming quality of the entire thing. It's just a straight line with copy pasted statues.

>>717537186 (OP)
Why is everything in Dark Souls 2 so fucking flat? Where the shadows at?

>>717537487
why do you newfriends refuse the fact that DS2 was universally panned by the DeS and DS1 fans when it came out? i know you are googling "dark souls 2 metacritic" as you read this, but from the actual fans (like here on /v/) it was fucking HATED loudly at the time. its a dogshit game with some cool concepts that were just not done well.

>>717537186 (OP)

not even close to being the worst area in this piece of shit game. i fucking hated this playstation 2 ass area

>>717539102
Gutter is dogshit because it ISN'T whatever you just described. Its super mario 3d world favela edition with pathetic hollows instead of goombas. Theres no tension, no atmosphere, and no difficulty.
Now black gulch, THAT is an area with some balls. Unfortunately its 2 meters long, fucking annoying as sin, and has a very dissapointing boss. So its also shit.
The worst (vanilla, dlc coop areas are cheating) area is earthen peak btw. Copse is ok.

>>717537616
Wrong, farron keep was secretly the GOAT area for early game invasions. Other than that yea its dogshit.
>>717537487
genuinely seek help new londo is one of the best areas in 1

>>717540069
it was hated irrationally because it was different but then over time we started to enjoy it on its own merit

>>717540069
>but from the actual fans (like here on /v/)
Are you implying that /v/ plays games, anon?
And no, I never post metacritic score. Never. I'm that anon who likes to talk about 30k SM runs.

>>717540134
>using "playstation 2" as an insult
i will fucking hurt you

>>717537186 (OP)
Every roll souls swamp area sucks and is the worst part of every game, which includes demon ruins which is just swamps with color palette swap and fire instead of poison effect

>>717540558
Dark Souls 2 could have easily been on PS2.
The graphics were actually that dated.
It's not an insult. It's just a fact.
You aren't gonna hurt a fly.

>>717540171
Nah. Enemies draw aggro from different buildings and can come up from behind you, but they always come from somewhere you can see if you aren't looking into nowhere. You see enemies you can't reach stop being passive and run around in places they can't reach you from, and the obvious conclusion is they are pathfinding to you. If you watch them you can catch them on the ladder up right behind you or some shit. You can see the evil ass rape dogs through the thin-laced walls of the buildings and go in prepared to fight some shit. You can take shortcuts with jumping, but that would be like judging Demon's Souls 2-2 from the mine shaft shortcut alone.
Black Gulch had some audacity to flood the area with statues, but it really loses its appeal because there's just too many of the same trap. Add like a statue that swings from a noose that shoots you from off the cliff or a pressure plate that causes three of them to rise from the ground and you have to jump out of the crossfire triangle or something. It was Romhack level shittery, which has a comedic and memorable value to it but less appealing. That's like if the Valley of Defilement had mosquitos across the whole map instead of like one area. It overstays its welcome.

>>717540815
this is bullshit that game is uneven as fuck, has some areas which look better than ds3 and soem which look like ps2 game.

DO NOT GO TO DARK SOULS GENERAL HOLY SHIT I REGRET EVERYTHING

Dark Souls 2 has the best NG+ Why haven't they tried doing something similar again?

>>717537487
Snow fog plains in DS2 DLC wins hands down worst area

>>717537186 (OP)
the fuck is wrong with huntsmans copse. Its a pretty standard area

>>717540134
I full sprinted through this area my first attempt completely blind and it was kino. i knew the enemies were more environmental hazards than meant to be fought because of how much bullshit was going on so i just booked it.

>>717537487
I dont know why everyone says new londo is worse than blighttown. Blighttown fucking sucks. New londo at least has atmosphere.

>>717545964
dark souls 2 had a lot of work put into it and the "fans" shat on it, it was their least successful souls, so they just phoned it in with cash grabs like roll souls 3.

>>717537186 (OP)
This is the first time I've ever seen anyone complain about Huntsman's Copse. Or post about it at all, come to think of it.

>>717537186 (OP)
DS2 areas all feel the same I don't even remember which one this was.

>>717537487
>I know it's cool to hate certain games because your favorite youtuber told you so,
Literally a copy pasted insult someone else said and you took. How ironic.

>>717546761
no they do not, wtf are you on about they all are very distinct

>>717537487
lol lmao

>>717539146
the only problem with new londo is how badly signposted the dead end is
>kill the watcher for his key or accept that your progress is blocked and come back later
no one is reasonably going to come to either conclusion with what hints are presented. the locked door is so inconspicuous that you would think it's just a bonus room rather than the main progress gate for the level.

>>717537487
new londo is kino. if anything there should have been more of it

>>717537487
True. Demons ruins, izalith, new londo, catacomb, tomb, crystal cave are all ass

>>717541228
Did you not understand my post, or ever actually gone through the gutter? Absolutely none of that matters because the enemies are all just shitty slow hollows that do no damage and die in 1 hit from just about every weapon. I dont care where they are coming from, it's irrelevant.

Heres what happens to every person on every gutter playthrough
>enter area
>half the map immediately aggros for no reason while you fuck around falling through a house/grabbing an item
>eventually get halfway through the first bridge and find the hilarious conga line of retards approaching you, mow all of them down
>go through the rest of the level nearly devoid of enemies save for the few rape dogs that you can easily avoid

>>717547062
Visually yes, but the enemies, loot, obstacles etc all feel the same. I can unironically distinguish DS3 poison swamps better than DS2 areas.

>>717545964
Because ng+ is retarded and pointless for the most part and genuinely seems like a third worlder thing. All the fun in the (good) souls games is when you have a goal thats more than "go through area and kill the area boss", you want to explore and find things that are useful for you. In ng+ your build is finished so its a just a pointless and autistic exercise. Anything cool that could be added to ng+, why wouldnt you just add it to ng? The only things you couldnt are things that are undesirable, like boss adds.

>>717537186 (OP)
This is not even close to the worst level in that game

>>717547360
Except there's a couple ways to go through the level and you describe the shortcut route that adhd people take because it is technically a path of least resistance that has you making two to three jumps over 65% of the level, exactly what I was saying in that you're judging the Gutter based on if you skipped Stonefang 2.

I hate having to do the run to the chariot boss because all the enemies on the way have infinite aggro. I rage everytime I replay that part. Black gulch is easy, don't know what everyone else is on about.

>>717537186 (OP)
>Name a worse area in any game ever
From the same game.