Thread 717601171

>>717601171 (OP)
Morrowind I guess

>>717601171 (OP)
non of them

>>717601171 (OP)
Dragon's Dogma (Online)

>>717601171 (OP)
Neverwinter nights.

>>717601171 (OP)
Dragon's Dogma 1
Pathfinder WOTR Lich mythic path

>>717601171 (OP)
First, define what a "Mage" even is.

>>717601592

Picrel

>>717601210
>>717601461

I forgot to mention, no dog shit games recommended please.

>>717601865
An old dude with a walking stick wearing robes? I guess the optimal game would be one where you are a travelling medicine man or fortune teller.

>>717601937
OP, define what a mage is.

>>717602204
>>717602302

<YOU> guys lack imagination. imagine this guy but he also cast cool ass spells and travel the land exploring and slaying cool shit with his cool ass spells and staff while wearing a fancy robe, also the game obviously has to be immersive, things like PoE doesn't count because the immersion is 0% in that game.

>>717601457
I never got to experience this. How much did I miss out?

>>717601171 (OP)
noita

>>717602879
You're the one lacking in imagination anon. Now I ask you again, define what a mage is.

>>717603045
There are private servers and even a general on /vm/. It's really fun in my opinion, really is just more Dragon's Dogma with a bit of MMO grind. A few unique classes that are very fun, co-op fits the DD formula really well.

>>717601457
>he doesn't know

>>717601171 (OP)
Real life

>>717601937
The first reply is Morrowind though
which is the perfect mage game

>>717601171 (OP)
Noita

Mage Arena

>>717603164
>>717603401

Pixel slop not welcomed

>>717603596
then you will never accidentally your own spell AKA peak mage

Baldur's Gate 3 Gale origin playthrough

>>717601171 (OP)
Magicka.

>>717601171 (OP)
Unironically Gothic II.

So far no one managed to even recommend a single real game that captures this feeling.

This indicates that there is a void in the market for a pure mage experience, and one day a dev will finally create this game and the flood gates of Magelike games will be finally opened.

>>717604040
Dominions 5, Magic and Mayhem

>>717601171 (OP)
Modded Skyrim
Download some cool spells and magic-related features, download some cool robes and questlines. If you want to take your mage feeling to the next step get Skyrim VR and a decent headset.

>>717604040
and what is this "pure mage experience" that makes you just reject every single game itt?

>>717604040
You've still yet to define what a mage even is.

Pathfinder games, bg3, dos2, osrs

Outward is the only real answer here

>>717604224

>what is this "pure mage experience"

A game that focuses on spells only and there's no other classes (melee or ranged) but mage. you can still have necro/warlock and maybe we can stretch it to include druid and shaman.

Also the game has to be very immersive that's why pixel slop are not welcomed here.

It's very clear at this point that the OP is an ESL, unable to even define what he thinks a mage is in the first place.

>>717604802
>there's no other classes
this is a weird requirement, just don't use the fighter classes

>>717604949

>Burgers lack the creative mind to understand what a mage is due to all the fat within their brains sulci and that's why they are willing to accept pixel slop like Noita as a mage game.

>>717605210
You continue to demonstrate your own lack of imagination and creativity by refusing to define what you think a mage is in the first place. We're running in circles because I'm chasing you.

>>717605064

the problem with other classes existence is that it means the game has to be balanced around being fun for a warrior and a hunter and a mage and thus the experience doesn't feel special and catered specifically to be immersive and challenging only for a mage.

>>717605375

I explained though here >>717604802

>>717604949
>>717605375
If you need it to be defined, you wouldn't have the answer anyway.

>>717601171 (OP)
Probably an actual Roguelike
DC:SS lets you master a shitload of spell schools and do all sorts of fuckery

NetHack for a polymorhing wizard

>>717605562
There is no right answer. OP clearly has a distinct vision of what a mage is. They have been given many examples of games that align with their vision of what a mage is, yet continues to say "there is no true mage game". Therefor OP does not know what they want.

Shill me some games with unique magic systems.

>>717603260

>The perfect mage game is a 25 years old game that barely works without installing 10 kg of mods and has the most snoozefest combat ever.

>>717601171 (OP)
Wizards 101

>>717601171 (OP)
Kingdom Come Deliverance no sex playtru.

>>717601171 (OP)
mage > warlock > wizard > sorcerer > magician
no i will not elaborate

Hogwarts Legacy
not even baiting

>>717606284
MW works fine for the most part, anon
It's just if you want to play it with high resolutions like 4k and view distance beyond what was programmed in is what you need mods for

I wa fine playing the GotY without mods when I was a child back in 2005
Problem might be you?

>>717605562

I think op want something like those "Ai soul" games but for a mage.

>>717604469
I'm enjoying runic magic, though its actively making me worse at the game since all I do now is place rune traps. Still glad I took the unlimited lantern over 40 mana from doing the blue conclave quests.

>>717601171 (OP)
Minecraft
Valheim
Cultist Simulator
Book of Hours
Baba Is You

>>717607147
nigger what

>>717606557
You're not baiting, you just don't know anything so suggestions from you are actually less useful than bait

>>717606469
sorcerer > mage > wizard > warlock > magician
you are retarded

>>717602879
Modded Skyrim is your best bet then.

People acting like a Dragons Dogma caster is cool when they only know like 4 spells at a time.

>>717607147

>baba is you

huh

>>717601171 (OP)
Dragon Age Inquisition (and veilguard if you can get over the story)

>>717607361
>>717607610
What is a mage? Someone that uses their knowledge of the rules of the world to achieve phenomenal effects. That's what magic is. So all of these games have "manipulation of the rules of the game" as their core mechanic and it allows for results that are either defined in the scope of the game, and sometimes even outside.

>>717601171 (OP)
Waltz of the Wizard

>>717603401
Noita gives you a nice magical meta-journey if you're the kind of masochist who can stick with it long enough for it to click.
>everything is dangerous and confusing
>meddle with shit that you don't understand, own yourself a LOT
>start to learn what individual spells do
>start to learn how spell combinations work
>start to learn how wand stats work
>make your first payload wand
>make your first machinegun wand
>still own yourself but you're finishing runs consistently now
fast forward
>your mastery of arcane knowledge has rendered you virtually immortal
>one cast from your wand deletes entire biomes
>STILL own yourself

world of warcraft

>>717607417
why is it not a valid answer? because it doesn't take place in medieval LotR ass world? or that you're not old guy with a beard?

>>717607984
meta-journey? the journey of the journey? what does that even mean bro

>>717608120
Because nothing the player can do feels like magic and the game is peak iPhone interface everything. It has no atmosphere or feeling of magic. You are too young to give opinions here. You will want to argue now but it's just reality. The game has basically zero to its gameplay to add to that.

A game that actually feels like being a wizard is something like Magicka

>>717601171 (OP)
Gothic 1/2/3 + Risen 1
Morrowind/Oblivion
Arx Fatalis
Outward
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Dark Souls 1
Two Worlds II
Magicka
World of Warcraft vanilla-wotlk
Noita
Dragon's Dogma 1

1738 aye

>>717608545
Magic in gothic 1/2 doesn't scale. Also it's just different "damage colors".

>>717608460
>it's a fact because I said so

>>717608230
(NTA) Each run is a journey for your character. The sequence of runs constitutes a journey for you, the player.

>>717608832
Welcome to how reality actually works. You're some kid who has played 20 games. Your opinions are shit and not useful here

>>717609060
spoken like a true, snobby redditor who thinks he's always right and probably butthurt tranny as well
say what you want about the game itself but by the end you do feel like a powerful wizard

>>717608545
Good list. I will add:
Arcanum
Age of Wonders II
Nox
Wizard of Legend
Orcs Must Die

>>717601171 (OP)
Depends.
Spells?
Morrowind. Magicka. Two worlds 2. Dragon's Dogma.

Class fantasy and dialogues?
Gothic 2. Dragon Age Origin. WOTR and it's Lich path.

>>717609257
Yes I am a snob you are being gatekept that's how this community works
>r-reddit
Not quite little low vocabulary brownoid. Now go enjoy some more generic aaaslop on your ps4

>>717609530
I've been here since 2008 you ain't gatekeeping shit.
Also I wonder what kind of people were so asshurt over this game, hmmm?

>>717601171 (OP)
there really isn't any, such a game has yet to be made

>>717609804
You are a teenager people can tell by your cognitive and speech patterns. You can't lie to me you actually are not intelligent enough

Now go play your dragon age non binary game and care about sneakers

>>717601171 (OP)
Avowed

Good for you, I'm currently working on a wizard dungeon crawler game full of magical encounters and puzzles.
And by working on, I mean I haven't done anything and can't program, but I have some cool level design and puzzle ideas.

>>717609903
I will make a genshin impact miliastra mod like that. What do you want it to be called? Look for it in like, 15 to 36 months. I'll write it down. Any text will be hand written

>>717609839

the only correct answer.

>>717601171 (OP)
Noita
Wizard of Legend
Magicka
Elden Ring (Convergence mod)
Diablo (any except 4)
Skyrim with 8 billion mods

unironically Diablo 2, play the Project Diablo 2 fan mod, obviously Sorceress is good for classic fire, ice, or lightning build but necros, druids, and even barbs offer a mage build, itemization is great, atmosphere is great and incremental power buildup is also excellent

>>717601171 (OP)
That's a wizard, not a mage.

>>717601937
You will never experience feeling like a mage without a game at least as clunky as Morrowind.
Unless you just want the aesthetics of a mage

>>717609878
>You are a teenager people can tell by your cognitive and speech patterns. You can't lie to me you actually are not intelligent enough

>>717608545
>Dark Souls 1
Come on now

>>717608460
>it has a minimalist UI so it can't make you feel like a wizard
Please stop saying shit so retarded you make the retarded nigger defending hogwarts fucking legacy look reasonable.
It doesn't make you feel like a wizard because it's generic AAA slop made for invalids who couldn't comprehend anything more complicated than mashing an attack button and dodge rolling if their lives depended on it.

>>717608545
>Two Worlds II
>Arx Fatalis
These two, absolutely.

eh i guess this one

>>717601171 (OP)
bg2 with scs and spell revision

>>717608230
Cause you won't have that experience in any one run, but over time you learn the rules of the magic and how to abuse the fuck out of them to become incredibly powerful.

skyrim stealth mage

modded skyrim vr

>>717601171 (OP)
Dragon's Dogma 1/2.

>>717601302
This.
>No cool scroll mechanic (fuck you betheda you fucking cockmonglers)
>No salt circles defense
>No magic circle drawing
>No fucking mage drip anywhere
>No intmaxxing emergent gameplay, just cheap fireball VFX dps for retards
>No passive boost tome collection
>Almost no fantasy racism
The true mage game has never been done.

>>717612074
Arcanum of Steamworks and Magic, is right up your alley, faggot.

>>717612164
I'll go right up your alley, elf

>>717610069
Someone answer for him since he ignored me. I'll make a mod where you cast spells in your tower like a wizard. Relaxingly

The game I'm making

>>717612713
Make it faster. *whips you* FASTER! *whip whip* FASTER!

>>717612970
Its probably some indie shit with graphics from 80's.

can u mod noita to have 99 lives
roguelike is a slop mechanic how do i mod lifes

>>717601171 (OP)
Not Dragon's Dogma because being a mage in that game sucks.

>>717601171 (OP)
this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co9eaG6KtSk

>>717601937
This. Morrowind is fucking faggot shit. Spell crafting isn't a good system. It's a bandaid for laziness

>>717601171 (OP)
Vagante.

>>717615015
vagante is the most brutal video game ever

>>717604469
I’d rather individual pull every individual hair out of my nutsack than “play” that

>>717615092
Yeah.

BG3 Gale playthrough with the no homo mod and the full spell list mod

>>717615535
and you're a friend faggot. get out

>>717603596
You're not a real gamer

>>717601171 (OP)
A healer only lives twice

>>717601171 (OP)
Morrowind. You can create your own spells and use magic to augment yourself to godhood. It's the perfect archmage simulator. You can even summon undead and be a necromancer. Shitposting zoomers with no taste shouldn't bother replying.

>>717601937
What the fuck do you want? Slop engine 5 demake of an already solid game? Use your imagination if you have a prefrontal cortex, or play some AI text game where you can be whatever you want.

Dragons dogma has mag-ey stuff
Neverwinter nights (there's a remade one for you zoomers)
Any of the fromsoftware souls games, you can do a fucking kamehameha and cheese bosses in Elden Ring
Skyrim with mods
Diablo 3
Or ask your friend Grok

Play with files to tailor to your contrarian needs because no game will be 100% to your liking. As the other anon asked, what do YOU think is a mage supposed to do? Conjure drinks and food? Play WoW then.

>>717616079
You can always play solo.

>>717601937
glad you made it clear.
anyways gonna pick morrowind as well.

>>717606284
correct.
thats how shit things have become, and why nobody could name anything better.

Dark souls has fun wizard gameplay

if you think morrowind is a good wizard game then you are fucking stupid, I don't know what else to say

>>717601171 (OP)
Morrowind for pure mage.
Oblivion for battlemage.

>>717601171 (OP)
The original Spellforce trilogy.

maybe majesty1

>>717618812
Spellforce games are just a mage bonerkiller.
>play first game wanting to be a dickass necromancer
>there's a map filled with the undead army of a strong necromancer
>meanwhile you can at most keep 3/4 minions at the same time (and they're near useless)

>>717601171 (OP)
BG2 when you get the robe of Vecna

>>717601937
Maybe Hogwarts Legacy or the new Dragon Age is a better fit for a boy of your inclinations.

>>717619074
You're just some random runeslave after all, while the "strong necromancer" is actually a member of the circle and better decribed as THE necromancer -- also the main antagonist throughout the entire series.

>>717601171 (OP)
Skyrim with Ordinator and Apocalypse.
>B-B-BUT
consoleplebs silence

>>717604040
So you mean a mage that has to find grimories and memorize spells and go to quests in towns to gather rare materials to cast them?

>>717604802
Every souls game and Elden ring if you do a magic build

>>717601171 (OP)
Here's something different
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3111080/Secret_Agent_Wizard_Boy_and_the_International_Crime_Syndicate/

>>717620643
>shoot the magic blue arrow to one shot everything and skip all enemy mechanics
>upgrade to a better damage magic blue arrow as you go

magic fucking souls in souls

>>717601171 (OP)
elden ring and dragons dogma 2 does

>>717620643
magic in souls games is most unfun garbage ever, not only its unsatisfying and boring pew pew shit, you constantly feel like you are cheesing the game because everything got balanced with melee in mind and maps, AI pathfinding werent designed to deal with ranged faggotry

>>717601171 (OP)
Game where the mage is "balanced" to be limp wristled fags are a disgrace

>>717601171 (OP)
Rift Wizard 2

>>717601171 (OP)
In Might and Magic you can use magic to fly and shoot meteors at defenseless peasants for fun

you arent going to be able to do it with out AI, since a big part of being a mage is having infinitely different kinds of magic you can create for different purposes. If its just some combat game but you can shoot magic instead of other kinds of ranged weapons its not anything like a mage simulator.
You need a physics simulator, then invent some new layers of physics for the magic to work on (our concept of arcane magic is basically just 'physics with more fundamental forces only some know how to influence'). Then even basic spells would require very complicated sets of pushing and pulling and manipulating the games simulated physics to cause the desired effects to happen, and these could be built up as structures.
noita kind of does this vaguely with wand creation 'programming', but a proper game wouldn't just be about combat so you would need the possibility to make countless mundane spells that do random things. It really couldn't be limited to effects that just ship with the game, which is why i say ai might be required to interpret user intent, or maybe it would be possible to just have everything in the game be made up of some kind of simulated physics. The NPC reactions however would be difficult

>>717602302
I'm sad to think that pics like this can no longer be epic or fun because we will never know if it's AI or not. Sad and fake internet from now on.

>>717601171 (OP)
Dragon's Dogma and Souls games have a much better mage combat than any Elder Scrolls