Is world of warcraft good again? Did they fix the story?

lol

>>717793697 (OP)
no but I hear there's feet now

>>717793697 (OP)
>Is world of warcraft good again?
Nope
>Did they fix the story?
Nope

>>717793697 (OP)
Yep. Metzen saved WoW. You should resub.

>>717793697 (OP)
they retconned the ethereals to have destroyed their own planet, which is funny

>>717793697 (OP)
WoW is currently the best MMORPG (payed). F2P shit doesn't count.

>>717793697 (OP)
Yeah, it's great
on TurtleWOW

>>717793697 (OP)
They decide to connect the Shadowlands lore with the larger Warcraft universe
The new zone is set in the Ethereal home world but focuses more on the brokers from Shadowlands than it does Ethereals

>TBC
>claims Dimensius destroying K'aresh was a thousand years ago
>Nexus King Salhadaar went crazy trying to avenge his planet
>TWW
>claims the Ethereals destroying K'aresh to try and kill Dimensius was 100,000 years ago and every single Ethereal and Broker in the game is an immortal survivor of that event, their species cannot and does not reproduce
>Nexus King Salhadaar was the one who summoned Dimensius to K'aresh in the first place and has spent the intervening time trying to put him back together to finish the job

>>717793697 (OP)
The story hasn't been good since the end of WC3.

>>717794549
wow writing is atrocious but acting like TBC is some kind of sacred cow that can't be retconned is retarded
TBC lore was so bad it damages WoW to this day

>>717793697 (OP)
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/1724708950222515.jpg/
Kill yourself.

>>717794664
>I have nothing to say but I need to tell you I think TBC was bad
Great. Don't care. It's objectively a change for the worse in every way.

>>717793697 (OP)
Since nobody else posted it, I guess I will.

>>717793697 (OP)
This void shit utterly sucks. I missed when old gods were avatars of extra-dimensional void gods who cannot enter this plane of existance, rather than faggots just trying to groom le heckin world souls but are totally misunderstood and not bad guys cuz theyre actually grey and stuff yo blm lgbtqiaa2s+ vive le revolutione! Hamfisted bullshit

>>717796336
Chromie just needs a good dicking to fix

>>717794005
can you find people to do leveling dungeons with? whitemane classic era is dead unless you’re lvl 60

why can't wow create music like this anymore
https://youtu.be/x1d8O0E3i08?si=gMHQVUk0G_Y4tWAa&t=539

>>717796336
>transgender angels
>Gay frogs
>Gay centaurs
This is a joke, right? This is an elaborate troll?

>>717793697 (OP)
Unpopular opinion time, yeah its good Every single version of WoW has had a problem in that it always catered to one group. Vanilla catering to PvE/small group leveling journey experience, TBC started dungeon/raids, then we had back to back expansions with no catering but to raiders, then some mythic was added for smaller PvE.

But now we're in the position where for the first time any type of player can progress because of Delves, Mythic and Raiding combined with the ability to turn gear into sets + upgrading. Its nice to be able to jump into any type of content and when you get sick of one, move to another, but all of it is still progressing you towards the ultimate final goal of cosmetics/max level gear. It is also all genuinely hard, like fuck off if you think any of the max difficulty content for Delves/Myth/Raid is easy, it isn't at fucking all, and while you're somewhat predetermined by your class+gear it does require enough personal skill to be interesting. How I do paladin delves/raids is very different from my mate whose a druid, even though the outcomes are the same.

>>717793924
ape

>>717797364
Most Wow tracker are severely overrated

>>717793924
>actual macaco
lmao can't make this up

Void feet

>>717793697 (OP)
xal'atath

>>717793697 (OP)
Who is that? Tyrande?

>>717797474

>>717799507

No and it's about the get worse if the leaks about Jailor coming back next expansion are true

>>717793697 (OP)
I haven't played WoW since 2010 and I haven't even kept up with any news since then either but I shall answer this question for thee:
No.

>>717799721
World of Gays

>>717797474
it's the previous expansion, they already did a hard 180 from all that, War Within is about 5% of the faggotry that DF was

Cope

>>717796336
Was WoW ever good?

>>717799805
>No and it's about the get worse if the leaks about Jailor coming back next expansion are true
Source? And lmao at spoilering WoW storytelling, literally nobody gives a fuck now it's been 20 years

>>717797631
tier 11 delves are piss easy, 90% of the difficulty of mythic raid is actually finding 19 other people that care and will fucking show up at raid time consistently, keys are piss easy up until around 12, then you have to actually pay attention and try

If they ever make WC4 they should just completely ignore everything that happens in WoW and start right from where TFT left off, have it as an alternate timeline.
That doesn't mean it would be good, because it's still modern Blizzard, but trying to incorporate the clusterfuck that is WoW lore would be a nightmare.

>>717793697 (OP)
Shadowlands executed the story. There is nothing to save anymore with that bullshit Jailer story.
Gameplay is okay I guess, neither worst nor the best

>>717799721
For fucks sake.

>>717799927
Have they removed or reverted any of the changes?

>>717797474
>Transgender angels
Spirit Healers were revealed in SL to all be dead people who got mind-wiped and spend eternity ushering the souls of the newly deceased. It's a plot point that the people who don't want to be mind-wiped after they die are shown as the evil ones.
Also, all souls that ever die ever anywhere have their permanent place in the afterlife chosen by "The Arbiter", an all-powerful judge. In Shadowlands, they decide to name a new Arbiter after the old one dies. They decide on Pelagos, a FTM tranny who did nothing the entire expac and whose story was about heshe being a useless retarded fuckup in hisher afterlife. I'm not saying Pelagos had a tranny VA like Wuk Lumat, I mean the actual character is a tranny. So the closest thing to a supreme God we've seen in the setting is a troon wearing the Burger King crown.
>Gay frogs
Pettable (because of course it is) giant frog animal thing in Dragonflight has a quest where you help him reunite with his husband. His name is Beef, the husband's name is Wellington.
>Gay centaurs
There is a questline where you help two fag centaurs propose to each other....but in a WACKY coincidence, they end up proposing to each other at the same time, without knowing the other was going to!

The fucking ghoulish WoW developers also depicted a child as having their mental illness enby bullshit.

>>717793697 (OP)
It really isn't, same shitty formula from the last few expansions with a different skin. Are people really so into farming mounts, tmogs and cheevos? Besides raiding there's really nothing else to do.

>>717801874
I love Mythic raiding and M+ is fun as well. You blast tons of M+ keys early in the season, then you slow to just doing 8 weekly to fill your weekly vault, then you stop doing that while you raidlog in the latter ~third of the tier
I find the formula continually entertaining, especially when you have people in a guild that you like playing with
I have no idea why people that don't Mythic raid sub. There is no content for them at all.

>>717794664
>It was always bad
Classic retailer response

>>717797474

>>717796578
yes the levelling zones and dungeons are packed with people

>>717793697 (OP)
>Is world of warcraft good again?
Yes.
>Did they fix the story?
You can't really fix it after Shadowlands, but it was never the driving focus of the game anyway.

Fuckers can't even run the MoP classic server right. There are private servers with more effort then what Blizzard is paying people to legally do

>>717793697 (OP)
>Did they fix the story?
Somehow it got even worse after Danuser. I didn't even finish the campaign for TWW, first time I've ever not bothered finishing a campaign, it was unbearably cringe and dull. Unironically the Danuser era story was more interesting, even if it was juvenile trash. Metzen is a sellout fraud and clearly isn't involved in the writing team beyond being a figurehead.

>>717804083
Christine Golden at her fucking finest

>>717804045
I'm pretty sure a deadly whirlpool is supposed to be here, but I guess it's "fixed"

>>717804045
It was clear the classic team is basically terminally incompetent after the Cata classic launch. They broke basic functionality like abilities disappearing when you log out, talents not working, you couldn't even leave a group once you joined. They did not even bother to minimally test it before release. And they had the gall to add a token to classic, to milk the players even harder. People wonder why pservers are so popular. It's not even the fact that they're free, it's that they're the better product - they work properly and have GMs available 24/7.

>>717804132
I always thought the failed abortion of 9.2 was as low as the game could go. Little did I know it could get much worse.

>>717804083
Christ Metzen is a better man

>>717804521
Metzen is a fraud

Wow's story ended after wotlk, everything after is basically the equivalent of the sequel trilogy/disney spinoffs with star wars.

>>717793697 (OP)
Is Wow, any version, fun and challenging to play as a duo? Just want a game where I can be a warrior and my sister a healer and it's not a cakewalk

>>717807512
>fun
Yes, vanilla/classic wow is fun to play as a duo
>challenging
No, vanilla is not challenging. The only way to incur a challenge in Vanilla would be to attempt Hardcore, which just sucks the fun out of everything as you'll avoid any interesting or potentially dangerous content and just grind the safest, squishiest, and fastest respawning enemies you can find instead of exploring, questing, dungeoning, or crafting.

>>717807512
Retail wow is a terrible game, but delves probably offer what you want. It takes almost no time to level nowadays, you can do delves as duos and the difficulty goes up to pretty tough at tier 11. And you don't have to subject yourself to the extraordinarily cancerous community.

>>717794549
>>717794664
This. TBC is the king of retcons. Now blizzard have always been open to developing the lore in new directions and making small changes, but TBC was the first time they really went and shat all over the previous stuff in a short sighted attempt to fill an expansion with content.

>>717800113
>If they ever make WC4
lol
lmao
lmfao

>>717809814
>wow eventually dies
>IP goes to sleep
>20 years later activison or whoever has the rights notices the dead IP
>release wc4 (yes it's a cashgrab)
>Maybe launch WoW 2
>I wake up

>>717804334
>9.2
Unironically, 9.1 was worse
"I will never serve" is one of the worst, most IP-destructive moments in the history of fiction
That was the exact patch that everyone I knew went from "jeez I just want WoW to be done with this horrible plot and get back to our regularly scheduled programming" to "I no longer care about WoW in any regard beyond gameplay".

>>717794885
>>717802504
Pretending that what TBC did to kael'thas and illidan was okay is insane

>>717804045
>>717804226
The MOP launch was a joke as well, no layers and horde had a quest in the jade forest chain bottlenecking the entire population for hours because you needed drops of mobs with a long spawn time

>>717810112
>Maybe launch WoW 2
If you've seen how low quality the work is on 11.2 (reusing and re-releasing whole areas from Shadowlands as 'new content'), you know this is never happening and even if it did, you don't want it

>>717810137
For me it was Chronicles.
>Bringing a giant sweeping series of retcons with the promise it will be the retcon to end all retcons
>New lore can't even survive a single expansion without being retconned and becoming outdated

>>717810383
keal'thas being high on netherstorm power and going apeshit was believeable
keal'that coming back from the dead and being a lap dog of the legion was probably the worst thing in tbc.
Illidan did kind of lose after losing to Arthas, so him building up demon hunter forces and fucking over everyone else in the outland seemed legit to me

>>717793697 (OP)
>story
Last time I checked they put the straight white male in a wheelchair for daring to talk back to a girlboss.

>>717810768
An enchanted magical wheelchair, get it right

>>717810660
>Kael'thas siding with the legion is bullshit
He literally sides with the legion by siding with Illidan at the end of the BElf campaign. Dude is willing to work with Illidan and the legion if it means magic crack for his people, I dunno why people are shocked he'd cut out the middle man. Kael'thas' whole arc is about getting increasingly more desperate and shady as he tries to save his people (like another protagonist of the human campaign).
Illidan going crazy was by the far the greater crime, since Illidan's whole shtick is being the edgy cartoon villain who is a bad guy one week and good guy the next. Just straight up turning him into a Raid Boss was such a waste.

>>717810857
Purple dildo wheelchair in a world where people get resurrected like a small case of the flu.

>>717799756
The foot fetishist baiting in modern Blizzard games is so fucking disgusting

>>717801706
>the child is a furry
They're just being true to ilfe

>>717801706
gotta indoctrinate them while they're young and malleable

>>717793697 (OP)
Nice updates you have here blizzsaars. Really makes me confident MIDnight won't be the same cashgrab with phoned in post-release content.

>>717814228
TWW itself is already heavily phoned in. The big feature of 11.1 was the return of horrific visions, content from BFA in 2018 re-released. Now the major play area in 11.2 is re-released Tazavesh from 2020 with some floating islands bolted onto it. The amount of effort expended on this dying game diminishes with each passing year.

>>717810112
Quitting all of gaming for 20 years just to come back to play the most soulless slop imaginable is kinda weird bro

>>717793924
>Payed
Good morning saar

>>717793697 (OP)
Xal'atath Futanari

>>717814228
They're saving the big load for Midnight.

>>717814494
resub you bloody bitch bastard

>>717793697 (OP)

>>717814840
No human talks like this. Don't these writers work around other humans? Why can't they write people that talk like people?

>>717814228
FFXIV WON AND HAS REAL NEW CONTENT

>>717793697 (OP)
Watch the nigger vs librarian fight scene and let me know what you think of it. Your answer will help me give (You) a proper answer as well.

>>717793770
Men's feet, yes.

>>717812359
Safe horny.

It's dead

Deader than dead

>>717816068
>nigger vs librarian
LMAO! This is never not funny for me. Considering how loud black people are in libraries.

>>717799927
No they fucking didn't kek

>>717793697 (OP)
Lol no it's in it's worst state.
Kadgar is in a floating conjured wheelchair.
Makes you think why bother giving it wheels when it floats.

>>717802000
Can't say the same as you, the formula is ridiculously boring and same for m+. The raids are usually nice and fun, I with it didn't follow the "1 raid per season" formula so there's more content.

>>717799721
People that played wow back in the day used to be called "no lifers" and "losers", which funny enough is way less insulting that being grouped up with a bunch of faggots and trannies for playing a game about gay centaurs and what not.
This is humiliating.

>>717799927
LMAO don't lie.
There is a whole "Gender Fluids" quest line in Undermine.

>>717793697 (OP)
>Did they fix the story?
Is the World of Warcraft 'story' what was making it good before?
Is that what you were playing the game for?
This is troubling to hear, OP.

>>717796578
play warmane

>>717793697 (OP)
someone have that character shopped as arthas with retarded chin?

https://www.wowhead.com/news/what-dungeons-should-you-farm-best-mythic-trinkets-for-season-3-378080

>all the same trinkets

I SLEEP

>>717793697 (OP)
No.
It was pretty much irreparable since TBC, but at least that had some cool and possibly memeable shit. It fluctuated depending on expac, and Legion honestly should've been the end of it. It reached a new level of crap in BFA, and probably was at its absolute worst in Shadowlands, and straight up fucking gay in Dragonflight. Have heard and seen nothing good of War Within.

the story in wow has never been good

>>717804521
It's the cocaine talking in him. He is 51 with kids, though; what else would he say?

>>717814228
They know it's the last patch of the expansion, and players will play Legion Remix in 6-9 months anyway, so they probably want to focus on the new expansion. Not surprising, taking into account recent layoffs.

>>717793697 (OP)
They killed the story with Shadowlands, went full faggot in Dragonflight, and TWW is supposedly the first part of a 'trilogy' so nobody really cares too much about shit they're introducing.
Nobody plays wow for the story nowadays.
They play it for the core gameplay feel that other mmos don't hit the same, the gear treadmill of grinding M+ / raids, collecting 20 years worth of things, or sucking draenei horsecocks in goldshire.