Why do Battlefieldsissies love beating up on n00bs so much

Why do phonetoddlers love posting news articles so much?

>just trust EA's black box technology bro
It's probably actually true that it's not the number 1 priority in matchmaking. It's easy to say this when basic things like connection and region are probably checked first. Not to mention the thing you should actually be worried about, engagement based matchmaking and matchmaking designed to maximize spending microtranactions.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/01/ea-has-tested-online-matchmaking-algorithms-to-favor-engagement-not-fairness/

Why not just let people create lobbies?

> In a 25-page report released last week, the publisher revealed that it conducted a secret experiment inside Modern Warfare 3 earlier this year, reducing the effects of SBMM for players in order to study the impact it had on the experience. The changes to SBMM were gradual and monitored, with the final verdict being that, despite many complaints about the system, many seemed to dislike its removal, resulting in "more quitting, less playing, and more negative blowouts".

https://hitmarker.net/news/disabling-call-of-dutys-skill-based-matchmaking-makes-players-leave-more-often-activision-study-reveals-940511

>>717891127 (OP)
Every war has retards running in head first.

I am that retard in battlefield. You can't stop me from running in, blowing up all the walls in the building being used for cover and getting sniped before switching back to my assault rifle to get and shoot suppressive fire.

>>717891375
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS TO IMPLEMENT PLAYER RUN SERVERS THAT ARE ALREADY HOSTED BY PLAYERS!?
THE PROGRAMMING ALONE WOULD BANKRUPT EA, NOT TO MENTION RAPE THEIR FAMILIES.

>>717891127 (OP)
It will have dedicated servers.... r-right?

>>717891375
Just can't do it, I know it was done for decades, but it's just not possible, no there's no reason, just can't be done.

>>717891513
>It will have dedicated servers.... r-right?
Good one.

>>717891513
Wait, is the game p2p?

>>717891480
>the bottom lowest players had 7% less score per minute
>top 10% had 2% more
>most of the player had practically no change
That entire rag paper is pic related in action

>>717891375
So they can shut down the servers when they release the next game forcing you to buy it again.

>>717891805
> During the test, the top 10% of players in terms of skill seemed to return to the game more frequently than before, while the remaining 90% played fewer games.

> Activision also stated that it carried out another test where it tightened SBMM limits, which resulted in the opposite outcome, with high-skill players leaving more frequently and lower-skill players staying longer.

The differences are there and prove that SBMM is good. People want to play longer, except the top 10% who complain they can't dunk on shitters. But fuck 'em.

>>717891375
You will own nothing

>>717891184
they get paid per post/reply

>>717891976
>schizo babble
The real issue is you cannot have a consistant game. It's not allowed.
>lose on attack/defend
>time to switch roles
>MATCHMAKING FUCK YOU LOL GET FUCKED AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>717891480
>no SBMM
>good players destroy noobs
>good players have fun and play more
>bad players have no fun and play less / drop the game
>less bad players means more competition for good players
>good players complain about the game becoming too sweaty
>good players have less fun and drop the game
It's a no brainer really. SBMM is good because it lets everyone enjoy it to some degree instead of shitting on a majority of your playerbase

>>717892241
nonono you dont understand
i put 20000 hours into the game, i DESERVE to have fun at the expense of the whole server
the other players only exist to entertain me, they can always just git gud if they dont like it

...what do you mean the whole quake franchise has like 600 players left?

>>717891480
>In a 25-page report released by Activision's division that is regularly allocated large sums of money to design and maintain their matchmaking system, the same department confirms that what it is doing is indeed very good (and worth the investment)
Happy for you for enjoying that link but please don't ever share your opinions in public again.

>>717892972
ok boomer

The culture around FPS games is incredibly pozzed these days. It's all about clip farming and stat padding to build some kind of fag content creation career.

>>717892670
>i put 20000 hours into the game, i DESERVE to have fun at the expense of the whole server

this but unironically

>>717892241
How come this never happened before SBMM?

>>717891375
whats next player made mods instead of dlc? you're crazy!

>>717891375
companies have spent millions on the pseudo science that is engagement optimized matchmaking and you better believe they gonna use it in every game out there because otherwise they would have wasted money and they never do that

>>717892241
>one game you stomping enemy team and there's nothing they can do
>next game enemy team stomping your ass and there's nothing you can do
>everything to keep everyone on 46-52% winrate for "fair" games
Yeah nah keep that sbmeme garbage for fighting games, the only genre where it actually works

>>717892241
>it's a no brainer really
Yeah when you make up a story to support your opinion, sure. Except previous Battlefield games that didn't have SBMM were still enjoyed by everyone, both noobs and goods. Having large scale battles of 64 players means there's bound to be a mix of noobs and experts.

Also we used to have servers/lobbies labeled "noobs only". Or some equivalent of "only players bellow a certain level allowed" servers. Worked fine.

>>717891480
>>717891976
shut the fuck up, SBMM is ass. i reserve the right to shit on noobs like i did in xdefiant.

>>717891480
You need to have both a SERVER BROWSER and NO SBMM THOUGHEVERBEIT

> ranking systems found matches based on rank, which is a rough measure of skill
>SKILL BASED matchmaking finds matches where each participant is most likely to queue again
Don't make sense to me

>be new and shit
>lots of fun because no idea what I'm doing
>slowly git gud
>lots of fun because I can now get creative with what I learned
I can't name you a single community-server-based multiplayer shooter where this wasn't the case for me. I have no idea why people keep falling for the matchmaking meme. If anything, people who play games with matchmaking are the most miserable out of everyone.

>>717891127 (OP)
I want SBMM but instead of skill it's based on playing your role, objectives and general teamplay
it would push all the deathmatch fags into separate lobbies from the people who play the game as a team in an attempt to win the match
it would be pretty easy to track too through simple game stats like objective time, role ribbons earned and for teamplay normal revives and sticking with your squad etc.

because if im not playing for money then if im better than other people i should be better than those im better at

>>717891513
only for the data collecting services via javelin/palantir.

I'm never playing a game with matchmaking only. No lobby browser no play.

>>717899639
>constantly take routes around big battles to sneak to points
>squad members constantly run into big battles
>once they're dead, they keep spawning on me and distract enemies from me taking points
>always end the game as one of the top scorer of entire team
that's the only part I miss about BF, but will never give a single cent to the retards at EA again

>>717893327
Because massive online fps games didn’t exist back then. The original modern warfare had skill based matchmaking and that’s what transformed the genre

>>717891127 (OP)
>It's far down the list, don't worry about it!
Okay sure, can I see the algorithm so it can be documented?
>N-No that's proprietary, but we promise we aren't hiding anything!
No documentation, means you're lying. Lmao

>>717891127 (OP)
>only have matchmaking as an option
>it still takes 1-2 minutes to "find" a game
what's the fucking point. If I had a server browser I could do it in literally 10 seconds.

>>717892241
>SBMM is good because it lets everyone enjoy it to some degree instead of shitting on a majority of your playerbase
SBMM is just there to make sure you have a 50% winrate, so when you win for a while, inevitably you will be placed in teams with people who can't type on a keyboard without looking at it, and then you start losing until the system decided you can win again.
Do less good players get stomped by better players? yes, and if you get good at the game, you can be one of those better players, so that means the game rewards time investment instead of rewarding people who don't get good at it by placing them in teams with better players, offering them the illusion that they're getting better.

Having servers is the best option though, because you can join a community instead of being a little globohomo bug eating shit who gets put in a pen against other globohomo bug eaters with SBMM.

>>717891127 (OP)
"SBMM" is a psyop. A proper skill based matchmaker is supposed to do one thing, and one thing only: match people according to their publicly visible MMR to minimize MMR disparity in the lobby, that's it.
It's not supposed to evaluate player performance based on hidden metrics, and use that evaluation to rig matches and maintain 50% predicted win rate for all the players.
Any MOBA player can tell you the matches start getting harder when you're on a win streak. All "skill based" matchmakers in modern games are just EOMM in disguise, and I won't play any of that shit