Now that the honeymoon period is over, it’s time to have an uncomfortable conversation about Expedition 33…

Ok i'll start: i finished 4 games since i finished E33 and i still think about it.

>>717926189 (OP)
i literally cannot let go this game, i have to put it aside in one of my external HD to maybe play it again in a few months,this fucking game is like the canvas Alicia and Aline were hooked to.

I finished act 2.
when does the game get good?

>>717926461
You think about how shit it is, right?

If you liked this game, you might be a midwit

>>717926516
It doesn’t

>>717926526
I think about this: https://youtu.be/TcEdif_2PNY

>>717926189 (OP)
What a uncomfortable conversation….. it was so good it makes other games pale in comparison

>>717926608
shit

>>717926189 (OP)
Oh yeah that happened

>>717926189 (OP)
yeah, pretty crazy how it was so good it made everything else that's come out this year look worse in comparison

>>717926189 (OP)
Gameplay is fun, soundtrack is one of the best, story is one of the best, and it looks nice. Can't say enough good things about it.

>>717926189 (OP)
>717926189

>>717926189 (OP)
Sorry, but over 2 months after I've finished it, it's still a 10/10.

>>717926461
I finished 30 since then. A bit of a gamer, me.

Worst cast of characters in any game, ever.
>Angry butch lesbian SEA monkey
>Horny slut constantly chasing cock
>Whiny bitchboy trying to pound his fake sister
>Another whiny bitchboy trying to pound his actual sister
>Whiny little whore flaunting her ass everywhere
>Big fat retard and needs muh rocks
Holy shit what a terrible game

>>717927201
Name all 30

>>717927284
I happen to keep a list. A lot of them are short to be sure.

ComicBACHICoooN!! コミックバチコーン!!
ともしび Lantern of Remembrance
Wish upon a cat
Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy
小枠内館の祝 KOWAKUNAI CELEBRATION
and Roger (ダレカレ)
Totto's Magic Soup
Pentiment
Spartoi Meadow
Mad Father
DOGWALK
TOO LATE FOREST
Satori
Score the Fear
obakeyashiki
BIGGEST PIANO
Masquerade
Dual Hearts
Many Nights a Whisper
KOEGASURU
Bahnsen Knights
ちゅーちゅーパンケーキ
Ghost Hospital -in Thousand Horror Hill-
OH?ME
The River
Poco
The Final Print
Aesop Rock's Black Hole Superette Experience
The Children of Clay
ゴブリン (Goblin_Gnome_Horn)

>>717926189 (OP)

The opening was kino. Once they make landfall on the island and everyone gets killed by the grandpa, it stopped being kino.

Game is very surreal and dreamlike though which is pretty kino.

I otherwise really liked it but hated the parry system. It might've sounded good on paper but goddamn did it make the game too simple .

>>717927371
>Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy
Only game on the list

>>717927258
So you never played it, got it

>>717926189 (OP)
Sorry, I've played several games since then, and I still think about Lune daily.

>>717927630
How do you know that, if you've never heard about 90% of them?
And how is, for example, Dual Hearts not a game?

>>717926189 (OP)
honeymoon phase is over, and it's still one of my favorite games of all time.

>>717927885
I assume they were visual novels

>>717927719
Played and beat it 7 times back to back to back.

>>717926189 (OP)
the honeymoon period is over, but I still listen to this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcu5B8iBclk

https://youtu.be/8qpZWJGDkls

>>717928126
>malel.webm
This is ugly, by the way, because uhhh, if you pause and look close enough, her hair look strange.

>>717928178
There might be one or two. I only "play" VNs when they look very interesting and are very short. Most of those are just random indie games.

>>717926189 (OP)
Shut up nigger.

>>717926189 (OP)
A conversation about how he was completely in the right?

>>717928784
Is the game over when I go back to lumiere to fight him?

I want to f*ck malle

(She is 32, 16 in real life and 16 in the canvas)

>>717929246
Yes, although you can leave at any time prior to the fight

>>717929246
Yes, but you get the option to load your save right before you fight him and go elsewhere to do all the side content.

>>717928606
Is that the Gustave guy I keep hearing about?

>>717926461
I've finished 10 or 15 games since finishing E33 and I still think about it

/v/browns are still mad at video games
lol

>>717926189 (OP)
I still can't help but laugh how long RPG games are the ultimate ADHD filter and cause these people to seeth as other people have the attention span to enjoy them.

>>717929259
16 is legal in most parts of the world— France included. You don’t need to justify it.

This game has literally killed playing games for me. It is a masterpiece. Everything I've tried to play since I've uninstalled after a few hours.

Currently getting cyberpunk, hopefully this one will be it.

GOTY

Act 3 is way weaker than the first two

Versotards are genociding justifying scum

>>717927469
It was kino all the way through but the opening was a 10/10 hook

>>717926189 (OP)
I liked it; Stendhal kind of ruined the late game though. It just becomes too temping to cheese literally every encounter once you can.
Oh and the whole
>we’re all just constructs in the paintrix” trope was clearly an ad hoc plot device once they ran out of runway for the actual plot.

8/10?
Sciel’s ass? 12/10. Lune footfags plzgo

>>717929619
>maelle ending trannie types with reddit spaces
Imagine my shock.

>>717929534
E33 isn’t even that long. It’s like 20-30 hours for the main story, which is pretty standard length for a JRPG. There’s also not THAT much side content on top of that. A few optional dungeons and bosses, but that’s it.

>>717929619
I think Act 3 felt rushed because the only main story content in it is the final dungeon and final boss. The rest is just post-game stuff that will completely break the final boss if you do it before. Even the Alicia fight and meeting the 3rd Axon is locked behind Maelle’s relationship level rather than story progression.

>>717929259
The mental hoops pedos jump through.

>>717930346
16 year olds aren’t children. The devs also gave her a skimpy swimsuit unlock just like the others, so they clearly think the same.

>>717930528
>>717930528
Why are pedos like this?

>>717929619
>>717929873
>even after months they had to think, low IQ crowd still can't understand that both endings are bad

>>717926189 (OP)
The only other real contender this year is Death Stranding 2. I have 90h on E33 and 120h on DS2.

>>717926189 (OP)
E33 looks so good bros!!
I love steampunk and floating rocks and runes!!!

>>717928280
For me it's the Painted Renoir fight.
>Your sister deserves more.

>>717926516
story peaks by the end of act 1. music peaks by the end of act 2. exploration and combat peaks by the first few act 3 superbosses you do cause after one or two, you are so hopelessly broken that combat is just busywork. game is carried by its presentation.

>>717931192
>if saving you, means losing you. Then so be it
>music
>do you care so little for us
I don't think its possible to make that scene any better.

>>717931519
It’s the best fight in the game by far. The final Renoir fight is underwhelming by comparison.

>>717931519
You mean some of the gayest lines ever

>>717926189 (OP)
Never played. Never will. Not giving money to chinese developers.

>>717931724
his reasoning for fighting doesnt really make sense, then you remember that its aline's version of renoir so he's hardwired to defend all her stupid woman moment decisions. he's literally stupid by design

>>717927201
Man I wish I could play that many games. I'm stuck in my head waiting for the "perfect time" to play games. I started streaming to help me pick up and play games which has kind of helped.

Expedition 33 is one game I did finish though!

the end game was kinda shit, I either shat on everything including the story bosses, or I got shat on
anyways verso was right

>>717926620
That gif is mesmerizing to me
Can you tell me more about it while I listen to the song

>>717926189 (OP)
it´s time to have an uncomfortable conversation about your mum daydrinking in the cosco parking lot

I also still think a lot about it. Kinda wanna play again, but i don't want to do an overpowered Ng+. At the same time, i'm not willing to play without my collection of outfits and hairs...

>>717931815
it was made by the french

>>717932526

>>717931724
I wouldn't call it underwhelming but the absolute peak moment is that start to the PRenoir fight. I liked Renoir's lines prior to the fight, the stuff with Aline, and that move with him flying and practically begging Alicia & Aline to leave the canvas.
>>717932002
PRenoir is fighting to protect his family. PAlicia, PClea, PVerso, & Aline.

>>717932397
it's a reference

>>717932590
Dam dawg dat bitch b mud ugly

>>717932853
oh, those were my favorite movies in the 2000s

Kino.

>>717932941
I thought Broke Back Mountain was your favorite movie, faggot

>>717932638
I think it’s underwhelming because it’s far too easy thanks to the Painted Picto, and it really needed one more phase. It also commits that vidya sin where you can absolutely demolish one phase of the fight with zero effort, and yet your party members are still exhausted and saying “he’s too strong”.

I'll be honest, the honeymoon period ended for me when Gustav dies at the end of Act 1. All the chemistry between the characters dies with him and I stopped really caring about the story, especially as it got dumb as fuck and just turned into a "going into games machine"

>>717932975
nah, never seen it
my favorite movie is about gypsies, diamonds and pigs

>>717932980
Oh yeah difficulty wise 100% agreed. I was skipping turns at the end to see moves unlike the PRenoir fight which was a good challenge.

>>717932957
>so kino I didn't play it myself

didn't play don't care

>>717926189 (OP)
>it’s time to have an uncomfortable conversation about Expedition 33…
in the back of a volkswagon?

>>717931724
only because you're probably wildly overpowered and it ends in like 60 seconds

>>717933245
>PRenoir fight which was a good challenge.
Wooweee just how shit at video games are you?

>>717932957
What is the context?

Explain me why renoir did that

>>717933250
>

>>717933359
He was furious at his wife and daughter and needed to calm down for a day in another canvas before returning.

verso ending just makes sense. he sees maelle figuratively and literally kill herself when gommaging alicia. its foreshadowing that she doesnt have self preservation for herself, sharing in the depression that verso's death caused. verso for nearly a century has been living with the guilt that his death is the spark that caused all this suffering. even if he isnt the real verso, he still feels like this is his fault yet also feels he doesnt have the right to argue in real verso's place. despite all this and given the slight hope to continue living on, when he cause the hint that maelle was going to stay and die, he did the same thing real verso did, he sacrificed himself to save her. as for the people of lumiere, the question about whether they have the right to live? its moot. its not up to verso or maelle, that decision is up to aline as they are her creation, and she fucked it all up to the point where they raised a hand to their creator, so no they dont deserve to live.

>>717933475
Woooaaaahhhh you are one BAD ASS gamer!

>>717933323
It’s one of the last fights in the game with the damage cap still in place, so you can’t just skip his second phase like you can for a lot of bosses.

>>717932638
yeah but he doesnt really acknowledge that aline is killing herself, this is cause aline painted him to not think about it. aka any argument with him is moot cause his reasoning is compromised to always defend aline no matter what.

>>717926189 (OP)
Are statement like OP's the only way to get engagement on this board? They always are or borderline cynical if they're not using a lust-provoking image. Brown people can't be that smart unless they're getting orders from above...
And if anyone is wondering, no I have not played nor seen enough gameplay to contribute meaningfully, sorry I'm just a curious person.

>>717933682
Thank you for your concession.

>>717934017
More like the entire site. The 4chins you know is long gone.

>>717934017
OP was just trying to do his hourly E33 hate thread and it backfired

>>717934017
>>717934792
I didn't read the op I just beat the game recently, saw op's pic and posted in the thread
just wanted to discuss the game

>>717932178
It sounds retarded, but I often get that strange feeling that it would be a chore choose or even launch a game. But if I force myself to, I'm soon happy that I did, and having fun.
How can playing a video game be too much work, I can't comprehend. Maybe our brains got lazy, because we live in times when too many ways of spending time completely passively are too easily available. You can just go to Youtube and waste your whole day without ever feeling bored, but by the end of the day you won't remember 90% of what you've watched.

>>717933475
Does the number on the right mean that 39.44% of owners platinumed the game on the PS5? On Steam, 38.5% reached the ending and over 10% got the rarest achievement (music records).

>>717932957
I really thought snatching the painting in one of the world location would prevent him from performing this move.

I want enter to canvas and marry forever with Maelle

>>717929579
Not him, but I got banned when 4chan came back up (right after E33 released) for saying ">tfw no Maelle gf"

Oh by the way I guess it's the only place where I can ask about it but Alicia's temple is clearly a clitoris right ? Also her invitation inside to "play with herself" is an allusion to masturbation right ?

>>717926189 (OP)
>Now that the honeymoon period is over
Shut the fuck up you overwhelming faggot. How many of these threads must you create?

>>717926189 (OP)
I mean, Act I and Act II are both good. Act III sucks, but we've already discussed this. Its about a 7/10 game overall. It might still be GotY, who knows. I think it will win best OST. Good, but not excellent.

>>717936418
Well, at least we're talking about video games.

>>717936752
>Its about a 7/10 game overall
>might still be GotY
So, in your humble opinion, there was no game better than 7/10 this year yet?

>>717926189 (OP)
>it’s time to have an uncomfortable conversation about Expedition 33…
that pajeets got filtered by it and triggered by an all white cast and great gameplay, yeah that's a bummer

>>717926189 (OP)
Played it and liked it, it's very good but calling it the GOAT is a bit much.
It's FFXIII if FFXIII was actually good.

>>717938478
>calling it the GOAT is a bit much
True, but at the same time calling any game GOAT is a bit much.
When people do that, it always reminds me of a friend who had watched somewhere between 5 and 10 anime, and decided that "this is the best anime ever made".

>>717935760
i love walking on eggshells posting on 4chan!

>>717931724
>She's not Alicia. You are not my Verso
>No, Verso's dead
>No, no, you are his creations, not mine
>You will not take this canvas from me
>This is what we created the expeditions for
>Tomorrow comes
mogs it though

>>717926514
>>717926461
E33 cultists are mentally ill

>>717939578
Nearly four months after the release and they're still thinking about a game they like.
You're still thinking about a game you don't like, for the fourth month straight.

>>717926514
based escapism chad

>>717936752
I don't think Act 3 "sucks", but it's definitely the weakest due to the pivot into a solely family-focused drama and the gameplay becoming too easy.
It still stuck the landing, but had a little wobble getting there. Very impressive for a new studio and more than most games do nowadays.

E33 rips off Twin Peaks and Inception without fully understanding what those works prioritized.
In what we'll call "myth-making" or "universalist" fiction, let's identify two main features:
>The structure of the world is conveyed in a bespoke, esoteric "vocabulary". This symbol-language often borrows the accoutrements of contemporary science/philosophy, incorporating quantum mechanics, though-experiments, mind-bending geometry, and so on.
>The purpose of its metaphors are not to simply draw comparisons. Instead, a system of metaphors are developed to create a nested metaphysics. Common concepts aren't just similar; they belong to an underlying concept, which may in turn be part of something greater. In the end, this turns comparisons from metaphors into something more like metonyms. If you know philosophy, this is like Spinozan metaphysics, or the non-analogies advocated by Nietzsche.
E33 stumbles through this movement like a drunken sailor. It hits a lot of the checkmarks superficially, but never extracts a greater meaning. IMO, this is because it was shackled to a contrived "what-if" premise and had to reverse-engineer a proper story out of a slick idea.
Thus, instead of investigating what it means to be a painted person - something which would be FOUNDATIONAL to a better story like this - it cheats by leaning heavily into "weighty" tropes:
>Generational trauma
>Simple meta theme about using escapism to stay in grief
>Eleventh hour twist that effectively cancels the hook premise
>Tortured immortality, but without a plausible case for the torture
>Decoy protagonist-protagonist connection, which is probably the closest it comes to making a meaningful statement
Instead, the game should've made a greater effort to connect its countdown-to-disaster hook in the canvas with its real-world plot. There are some gestures to this, but they're marginal and seem like a tacit acknowledgement that the next game will be more cohesive.

>>717938918
>it always reminds me of
a friend who had watched somewhere between 5 and 10 anime, and decided that "this is the best anime ever made".
The entire E33 fan base except it's between 0 and 2 jrpg

>>717940974
Most jarpigs are pretty shit desu. Let's not pretend the gameplay is anything but dull, repetitive slop and don't even get me started on the "stories" they come up with. It's the genre where failed anime writers go to die.

>>717940398
The gameplay feels just right imo if you don't do the higher level areas first. Like if you a sort of "intended" progression of Reacher > Crimson Forest > Frozen Hearts before the harder areas, it feels just right. But if you do Sprong, Dark Shores, Flying Manor, Endless Tower or Renoir's Drafts too early, you become too overpowered.
>>717940974
These posts always reek of sour grapes. I've played a ton of JRPGs and E33 is still among my favorites. What are your top 10?

>>717926461
>i finished E33 and i still think about it.
Zoomie thinks about muh story in a video game lmao.

>>717930828
You have 0 hours in donkey kong. So your opinion means fuck all

>>717938478
I kind of like FFXIII more desu

>>717941227
>Most jarpigs are pretty shit desu.
Agree. I play a lot of them but don't remember any that had a good story and character writing like that. It's always same shitty cliches.

>>717941669
I don't play games for children and retards

>>717941593
stick to your looter shooter online slop m8

>>717940868
>Thus, instead of investigating what it means to be a painted person

There is some of this, though yeah I would have liked a lot more. There's not enough exploration of feelings between the two protaganists, one a god, and one who was once real, vs purely not 'real' characters.

>Simple meta theme about using escapism to stay in grief

It's a simple theme, but its explored pretty adequetly.

> Tortured immortality, but without a plausible case for the torture

I don't know who you're talking about here. Verso is plagued by nightmares, never sleeps etc and its bought up quite frequently

I agree with the rest though.

I think ultimately they were so shackled to the idea of having the choice at the end that it didn't really give itself time to nudge the player towards any feelings regarding maelle. I think it could have worked really well if the maelle twist came sooner, her ending was forced, and you had to live with that but the game had worked harder to build up more of a picture of what the rest of the cast thought about it.

What irks me even more is how the game tries to coerce you into thinking Verso's ending is the 'good' one, where you get the cast all waving goodbye (somehow) vs Maelles ending where verso is begging to die. In reality both endings are shitty.

Given all that I still think its a really great game, and attempted a lot more than a lot of vidya stories out there. I think it also greatly respects the players intelligence on the whole.

I enjoy these stupid-ass animations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw7OCLU3YHw

>>717941368
Oddly I pretty much did Old Lumiere straight away (did half of the Crimson Forest on a whim first whilst testing out the flying) because I can be retarded and didn't think it was the final mission yet. I just had the Painted picto which makes such a ridiculous difference and everyone synergizing on a Burn-focused strategy. I was mid-50s for the final boss but with damage uncapped each Burn stack of 100+ took off a massive chunk of his health. I think they should have made a new damage cap of 99,999.

>>717940868
>Le insist upon itself

>>717940868
Abysmal take. Ex33 owes more to Alice in Wonderland than either of those things, and it's an insult to Lynch's memory to group him with that midwit desecration of Paprika.

>Brooooo look at the details they put in this game brooooo
>Look at the color of the flower petals when something happen bro! It subtly tells you which painter is using their power!
>White is Aline, Red is Renoir, Green is Clea, and Gold is Alicia bro!!
Then why did Painted Alicia turns into red petals when Maelle gommages her, instead of white or gold?
>....
kek, this fanbase

>>717942260
The Siren twerking got to me I'm afraid.
Sprong reminds of a FF mob but I can't remember which.

>>717943097
esl

>>717944113
I accepts your concessions

>>717926189 (OP)
It has soul, I have no doubt the team put its heart into the game, it shows. But it's a mid game at best. A massively overhyped 5/10.

>best moment happened in the first hour, and it's cutscene
I despise single player games.

>>717940974
E33 literally is the best one, let's not pretend generic anime shit or FF is better.
The only reason you could think there is a better one is because you like some obscure shit because it has your specific tastes or lolies or furries in it which i am guilty of myself

>>717929534
True. Why are we having this conversation about a 20 hour game, though?

>>717930683
>both endings are... le bad!

the situation is far from good in verso's ending, but it's the only ending where there's a tiny speck of hope for the characters' future. even if that ends up being a fruitless endeavor the act of undertaking it is what makes us human in the first place

Renoir is based and needs to feed his wife
I hope pierce brosnan plays him in the movie

>>717942260
Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder about that stupid part from act 1
>Okay here's a tutorial on how to Jump
>Okay now here's a boss fight watch out for his jump
>lol you idiot that was a jump not a Jump
what did they mean by this

>>717945769
The only characters that there's hope for is the original Painter family. Everyone else gets severely fucked over in Verso's ending, whether they choose to accept their fate like Esquie/Monoco or not.

>>717926189 (OP)
Let's say I dropped the game in the final area of Act 1. Is it worth trying to pick it up again or will it just be more of the same and I should just accept it's not my kind of game?

>>717946949
If the end of act 1 didn't trigger any sort of emotion then don't bother.

>>717940868
>Thus, instead of investigating what it means to be a painted person
This is not a theme of E33 and that's a good thing.
>something which would be FOUNDATIONAL to a better story like this
There is no reason for a tragedy or a JRPG to get bogged down in epistemological existentialism. E33 goes out of its way to make it clear that painted people are real for the purposes of evaluating them as people.
>Simple meta theme about using escapism to stay in grief
It's not simple. It's the entirety of the game. Every single character and their arcs. All of the dialogues. All of the plot points. It's not a coincidence that "Getting Over It" was recreated in this game as a mini game.

>>717946949
If you liked the storyline then this is one of the few games where I'd recommend pushing through the gameplay to experience it.
If neither the story nor gameplay won you over by Act 1 then it's over. I enjoyed Act 2 more, but it's not a big enough swing if someone wasn't having a good time already.