What am I in for?

>>717942356 (OP)
One of the most interesting game system ever (the entire M.e.r.c system) and one of the most ball bustingly hard strategy games ever
Pro-tip, don't play on sci fi (it actively makes the game worse) and realize that night time is your friend (most of your starting weapons are short ranged, making them far better for night ops that day ops)

>control the whole country
>extract millions from mining
>ignore emails from Enrico to hurry up
>hand over the country when the mines stop being profitable
lol lmao

>>717942356 (OP)
One of the greatest strategy rpgs of all time. Base game is great but 1.13 is a literal masterpiece.

1.13 makes it the best tactical strategy game ever made

>>717942356 (OP)
tedium
whoever designed the gun buying system deserves to be shot by every single firearm in this game until dead

>>717942356 (OP)
For my first playthrough, should I play on experienced or novice?

I don't know what this is

>>717942356 (OP)
Best military-themed 80's-90's action movie writing ever. Nothing will ever come close to the dialogue and quips from the characters. Too bad the writer (Shaun Lyng) disappeared from the face of the earth. JA3 ended up with all that "safe" humor without him.

How much of a retarded tourist newfaggot do you have to be to answer such an awful OP genuinely? Is JA2 dead now? Was it taken over by newfags?

>>717943446
Generally just want to play novice for a first playthrough, if you have a lot of strategy game experience you'll probably feel a slump in difficulty half way through but it wont last

>>717942356 (OP)
The 80s vibes are incredible. I can hear the computer music now while imagining it. Pure kino

>>717943446
I'd start with novice if I was you. Download 1.13 mod, it makes everything better. Dont take sci-fi, pick realistic. Sci-fi gives rocket rifles from a hidden base and makes a massive bug attack on Drassen. Create your own merc at I.M.P, with 1.13 you can create multiple. You need leadership and wisdom to create militia, which you abdolutely have to train after you've taken towns. Talk every civilisn you see that has a name, prefer friendly and direct. Start these discussions with your main merc. All towns have side quests that affect yoir reputation, whivh gives you more money from mines. Always talk to mine supervisor. The enemies scale the more you take cities and they WILL counterattack. Get steroid at the start, good marksmanship and godtier mechanical skill.

>>717944385
>DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT!

>I don't like those oriental types. You never know what they're thinkin'.

>>717943960
>>717944385
Shit I already picked experienced

>don't play on sci-fi (even though Ian Currie said it's the game was designed with it in mind and doubled down with zombie virus in JA3)
>start with 1.13 even though it's bloated as fuck and massively changes the game's balance and has the Drassen counterattack on by default

>>717943909
It's just an excise to have a JA2 thread you crybaby faggot

>Dis woman, Meltdown, she scare even me, en. But en, she do something to me.

>>717942356 (OP)
Easy or bad time depending on how much time and effort are you willing to put into learning fine nuances of the controls and gameplay mechanics. It's like 30% common sense squad strategy (cover, lines of sight, flanking and ambushing), 70% knowing what the game lets you get away with (stealth, handling rooftops, cleaning corners, crouching a crawling in/around terrain, backstepping and sidestepping, night fighting, when and how to melee, mercs interactions).
The game will tempt you to savescum, don't fall for it.

>>717945297
>bloated as fuck
Adds a fuck ton of gear and weapons, fixes bugs and reworks the aiming system
>massively changes the game's balance and has the Drassen counterattack on by default
Sounds like a skill issue. If you'd have played the game further before getting filtered by Drassen, Alma at latest.
Turn on the option that the enemies drop everything that they have.

So do I download "Jagged Alliance 2 Classic" from Steam and then get the 1.13 mod from moddb? Is that the best way to experience this game or what?

>>717942356 (OP)
One of the best games ever made that still hasn't been topped to this day.

Also hard as balls if you don't cheese it.
Don't start with 1.13
It adds 5 million mechanics that are barely documented into a game that already has quite a bit of complexity. Play through vanilla, then if you want more, try 1.13.

I remember playing it as a kid with my bro, it was definitely hard but damn fun. I remember after hiring tons of cheap mercs and pitting them against each other quite a lot for the hell of it, we basically found Deidrienna by randomly exploring every map and then using grenades and explosions to breach the palace and kill her. That was the only time we ever completed the game.

>>717942356 (OP)
Extreme amounts of fun and extreme amounts of /k/ autism with 1.13.

>>717943313
You'll rarely if ever buy guns online, you mostly use it for supplies like medkits and ammo.
Enemies will drop more guns than you could ever need.

SHES A DRIVEN BITCH

>>717942356 (OP)
Game created by an "idea guy", but also actually good

>>717946645
>1.13
If you want to read through legitimately dozens of pages worth of settings and mechanical changes that'll contain spoilers and be full of shit you won't even understand since you never played the game, yeah.
Just slap a widescreen patch on it and play the game normally.
90% of the additions and changes in 1.13 are shitty gimmicks like infiltration/disguise shit that you'll never use anyway, or guns that function exactly the same as the other gazillion guns in the game.

>>717946086
>fixes bugs
There's Straciatella for that.
>everything else
You're arguing about whether or not someone playing the game for the first time should experience it the way it was meant to be played or should they play a completely different version. Do you also recommend someone who wants to try DOOM for the first time to go straight to Brutal Doom ? And actually using the "enemies drop everything option", Jesus.
The first town a person discovering the game will liberate will be Drassen, at which point they'll ask themselves what the fuck is going on. There's countless of noobs posting about it because of the mindset of starting with 1.13. This isn't even talking about new systems that are specific the 1.13 only that aren't explained anywhere but in the mod's documentation.
Anyway, it's always the same debate. At this point telling people to start with JA3 might be doing them a favor.

Reminder that this game has like 100 mercs, each with dozens and dozens of lines, special interactions, lore, and unique VA.

And this was a game released in 1999, by a tiny Canuck developer. Remember that next time you play some AAA slop with like 6 voice actors total that aren't even putting any effort.
They truly don't make them like they used to.

Can you faggots say the name of the game instead of assuming I know what the fuck you're talking about? All fields until then.

>>717947225
>can you guys spoonfeed me i'm a retarded little zoomer
No, fuck off out of this thread.

>>717947324
k enjoy your dead thread nigger faggot

>>717947225
I found the tittle by just googling "1.13 game" even if I knew it was cheeki breeki

>>717947392
we will, enjoy your gachaslop or whatever retarded shit you literal apes consume nowadays

>>717947434
It's literally named in several posts in this fucking thread.
Gatekeep retarded zoomers who can't even read.

>>717947510
>>717947440
>>717947434
Ignore these rude posters.

>>717947225
The game is called Jagged Alliance.

>fumble into a pair of greyshirts day 1
>take them out with a lucky grenade hit and close-range burst fire
>loot two scoped Dragunovs
>with ample supply of ammo

>>717947225
I was about to say is reverse image search not a common thing but what am I talking about. The zoomers spend 24 hours a day on the Internet and still can't figure out how to use it.

>>717947738
They don't even know how to pirate anymore.

>>717947008
Ok but what about the fact that steam won"t let me purchase JA2 unless I Purchase wildfire as well. Everything I'm seeing about wildfire is complaints. WTF is going on I just want to play the game normally.

>>717947171
Didn't JA1 already have voiced lines for everyone and some like/dislike banter between the mercs?

>>717947171
Also the fact that tons of the Mercs know one another which leads to friendships or arguments too. The game was way ahead of its time, but even back then it was still just a lesser known title.

>>717942356 (OP)
A really fucking good time

>>717948028
>>717948086
Wtf? Hivemind

>>717947597
Things that never happened, Anon. There are no enemies that early in the game with sniper rifles

>>717948025
Just pirate it, Sirtech doesn't exist anymore so your money will just go to jewish overlords completely unrelated to the game.

>>717948025
I own it the base game on GOG. Wildfire is a short DLC that's maybe 10 zones in a neighbour country.

Great game but it BROKE ME back in the day on 2 or 3 separate attempts. One day I'll try again.
God if zoomers get filtered by Fallout 1 or 2 then imagine them trying JA

I should really replay this game. I played it when it released and never completed it

Speedrun to this is funny, you can finish the game in like 5-10 minutes, all you need is a couple of rocket launchers at the end, I even tried it myself a long time ago

>>717943219
this

>>717948167
You can hit Alma day 1 evening. You probably can't take it, but dropping one of the elite guards and taking his shit before fading back into the night is feasible.

>>717949093
If you know where the Queen is you can just go straight there and blow the wall yeah.

>>717942356 (OP)
Play through vanilla first.
Then get the 1.13 mod and prepare for one of the best gaming experiences of your life.
>ELIOT! YOU IDIOT!!!
>*SLAP SLAP*
>ye... yes your highness.

Is it possible to play 1.13 windowed without everything being zoomed out to hell due to the resolution?

>>717949281
What was it about isometric angles back then that now makes them so nostalgic? I look at stuff like that picture and instantly reminds me of everything from that era. From Sims to Theme Hospital, BG, Fallout, Rollercoaster Tycoon, Diablo. It was massive.

>>717943516
From quick google search Jagged Alliance 2 maybe (at least the 1.13 thing theya re talking about come for that game)

What do you guys think of 7,62 games ?

>>717942356 (OP)
The first time i ever played an Jagged game was last year, i jumped straight into 1.3 and after some fucking around i had such a good time. Then i tried 3 and hated it, not dislike it. I hated lt.

>>717950553
All their attempts to recreate it have failed, there's a reason why 2 was always amazing.

>>717949740
It was the standard for the time, like blockbuster muscle-man movies of the 80s. It was also back when gaming was a relatively small industry run, to quote interplay, "by gamers, for gamers"; not yet targeted by corporations as a cash cow.

>>717942356 (OP)

>>717950703
Especially those early 90s PC days. Loved the passion back then. Only really started to take hold late 90s/00s when the industry truly peaked.

>>717950696
What i dont get is why they had to lean so hard on xcom for the fights. I get making interesting characters is hard.

>>717944509
>>717945146
i always get these two muscleheads for my Commando playthroughs

>>717951269
Who were the 2 snipers that knew one another? Can't remember if it was Lynx and that other British Female or someone else. I remember trying to complete with just snipers and then taking shitty mercs for the extra gear. Never worked but could get quite far.

>>717951704
Lynx and Buzz certainly KNEW each other.

in the biblical sense

>>717949740
The level of detail is just vague enough to encourage a lot of imagination but detailed enough that you get a realized vision

>>717952618
I remember playing Stalingrad and using Katuska and flattening entire blocks cause infrantry fucking sucks ass but they can rape the tanks if they come close.

>>717952845
If they had the option to storm buildings like in blitzkrieg they'd be a lot more useful. They're actually not bad, you just have to scatter them well and keep them in front of the tanks to soak up all the at gun fire.

>>717942356 (OP)
A good time, but also a lot of frustration
Also Jagged Alliance 3 is actually really good, you should definitely play it next

>>717953060
Are Blitz games good or are they jank ? (like playable jank or unplayable) and if they have mods to fix the jank.

>>717954120
Those screenshots are from hidden stroke, which is a mod for sudden strike 2, but blitzkrieg is pretty fun. They're usually on sale for like $5 or less on gog.

Bump

Do I need any mods or patches or just the base game from GOG is good?

>>717956889
I don't play with any but you have to realize the games are kinda niche. If you're not into them vanilla then you're not going to like them even with mods. Sudden strike imo is better anyways.
The best mods for sudden strike are RWM and hidden stroke 2 or 3

Never, ever play 1.13
Its an unbalanced mess that expects you to have played JA2 at least ten times first.

>>717957043
>Sudden strike imo is better anyways.
Aren't they significantly different games? I only remember not being interested in a Sudden Strike game at all for whatever reason.

>>717957362
Yep, but everyone always confuses them so I feel the need to bring it up

Anyone play the newest one? I forgot it came out, I was waiting for it to get some sort of mod support. At least the soundtrack is good

https://youtu.be/fmXc04l0oTw?si=0OH_eZQ5sOlOALG0