Thread 718428346

Choose the better game

>>718428346 (OP)
Sonic 2 isn't even better than 1 let alone 3.

I prefer Sonic 2 because I can just play it all in one sitting. 3&Knuckles takes too long, and the Sonic 3 portion is grating.

>>718428594
Sonic 2 has better stages, albeit the bosses are weaker.

>>718428346 (OP)
2

>>718428346 (OP)
Feels like online consensus shifted towards 2 this decade and I'm not sure why. Maybe because 2 is a very frontloaded game that puts all of its best parts at its beginning before turning into a slog midway through. 3&K is a superior game in all aspects.

3, Sonic 2 becomes boring after Casino Night Zone, but I always stay to play through Mystic Cave because that's the best track in the game.

>>718428346 (OP)
Sonic 2:
>has oil ocean
Sonic 3 & Knuckles:
>no oil ocean
Sonic 3 & Knuckles wins.

>Sonic 2 has Oil Ocean and Metropolis
>Sonic 3&K has Sandopolis

Sonic 3&K has Marble Garden

>>718428346 (OP)
Sonic 3 & Knuckles is my pick for better game.

>>718428346 (OP)
Sonic 3's levels for me are just a bit too long, so Sonic 2 is better... though 8-Bit Sonic 2 is better than both.

>>718428346 (OP)
S3&K. Everything after Casino Night in Sonic 2 sucks ass. The only outright bad zone in S3&K is Sandopolis.

>>718428594
>sonic 2 isn't even better than 1
i wanna hear this

>>718428346 (OP)
Hate sitting through 3 acts of any zone, so Sonic 2. Fuck Metropolis zone too

3K > 3 > K > 2 > 1
every game builds off the last
3 has a better separate campaign to K
3K still the best 1994

>>718428346 (OP)
>Sonic 2
*SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP*
>Mostly boring, linear levels that have been done better both in later games as well as the two preceding games
>Level design philosophy that only serves to fuck over new players, a proverbial millstone around the necks of the levels of several future Sonic games
>Barely any cool secrets or good rewards for investigating your surroundings
>Horrible special stages that are a pain to access and require rote memorization just to be able to clear them
>2 characters who play identically, despite one of them being able to fly which should be a huge deal
>1 extra character locked behind physical DLC
>Special super form automatically activates when you jump which, due to developer laziness, can softlock you in earlier revisions of the game
>Super form can't be used during the final battle in space, also Tails can't turn super whatsoever so... fuck anyone who plays as him, I guess
>No save system, which makes getting the super form not worth the trouble
>2P mode sucks balls, everyone's squished and the available levels (only 3, by the way) are simply reused from the main game
Sonic 3 & Knuckles clears, easily

>>718428594
FPBP

>>718435432
>3K >>> 3 > K > 1 >>> 2
FTFY

>>718435689
>1 better than 2
explain

>>718435147
I could go into autistic detail about everything I dislike about 2 compared to 1 - from the uglier visuals to the incoherent level themeing - but I'll keep it to my main problem which is that Sonic 1 actually telegraphs when you should be slowing down and watching for danger vs running freely while Sonic 2 just blindsides you with spikes, enemies and off screen projectiles.
People complain about the enemies in Metropolis zone but basically every badnik in 2 is a pain in the ass.

>>718428346 (OP)
Sonic 3 and Knuckles, how is this even a question? Sonic 3 is better than Super Mario Bros 3 and World.

>>718435826
>explain
Sonic 1 has good level design that demands more from its players without being cheap bullshit. Many of the levels feature branching pathways that are worth taking and aren't just a case of "Stick to the top path lmao!", and the levels handsomely reward your curiosity and experimentation with the game's physics. While I don't like how you reach the special stages in this game (tying it to rings is fucking retarded), they're much better designed than the ones in Sonic 2, namely by being fair with its mechanics and not fucking blindsiding you just for the hell of it

>>718436184
>Sonic 1 actually telegraphs when you should be slowing down and watching for danger vs running freely while Sonic 2 just blindsides you with spikes, enemies and off screen projectiles.
It absolutely baffles me that people see this kind of level design and unironically argue that it's good. I believe the term was "Passivity Traps"? What a crock of shit