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Anonymous No.718455679 [Report] >>718455817 >>718456242 >>718456687 >>718457358 >>718457667 >>718457851 >>718458169 >>718458827 >>718459196 >>718459570 >>718459657 >>718461218 >>718463367 >>718464180
The International 2025
It's going to be the last one isn't it? Game is dead.
Anonymous No.718455817 [Report] >>718459360
>>718455679 (OP)
What if we all are dead too?
Anonymous No.718455891 [Report] >>718456067
I think it's finally time to just admit it and throw in the towel with this game. It's obvious Valve has given up completely with Dota despite claims that they would be ramping up developing big patches. Valve doesn't even run the international anymore and I doubt organizers will want to run it now it seems like game is completely dead. My whole friends list on steam used to be filled with people who played this game all the time, now I barely ever see anyone play it. Nobody cares about it anymore and have started to move on.
Anonymous No.718456067 [Report] >>718456268
>>718455891
I thought they gave up like 4-5 years when the international pass went from
>Here's everything at level 100 a level you can easily get to
to
>We've locked everything behind level 2000 and lowered all the levels you can grind and we've also locked a broken game mode with wacky lore an intern made behind it
Anonymous No.718456242 [Report]
>>718455679 (OP)
>no sticky last year
Yep, it's pretty much over.
Anonymous No.718456268 [Report] >>718456482 >>718456607
>>718456067
Yeah valve need to realize people will play your game that's highly centered around cosmetics when cosmetics can be realistically obtained. I mean they just released a patch where you can get a whopping 3 total mid looking sets but only after winning like 500 games or something insane. Like who tf want's to do that?
Anonymous No.718456320 [Report] >>718456345
Leaguechads won
Anonymous No.718456345 [Report] >>718456726
>>718456320
LMAO
M
A
O

Your game pays less than Dota 2. What now, tranny?
Anonymous No.718456482 [Report]
>>718456268
>they just released a patch where you can get a whopping 3 total mid looking sets but only after winning like 500 games or something insane. Like who tf want's to do that?

I would do it, but it's so hard for me to find a match. I got put into LP because of my shit internet, and I'm so tilted that I took a break.
Anonymous No.718456607 [Report]
>>718456268
Yeah I mean I just stopped playing because I'm not the target audience of a rich Saudi/Chinaman that can pay someone to do all the superfluous bullshit on my account like opening 9000 chests from the 20000 battlepass levels I bought.
Even turning the old events into seasonal battle passes is just some wacky shit.
Anonymous No.718456687 [Report] >>718456740 >>718457016 >>718457449
>>718455679 (OP)
I don't know anything about mobashit but dota 2 has 700k concurrent players daily, how the fuck is that dead??
Anonymous No.718456726 [Report]
>>718456345
You're only accounting for EWC though, the international doesn't pay out shit anymore. Globally overall league is making much more at the moment.
Anonymous No.718456740 [Report] >>718456857
>>718456687
Valve
Anonymous No.718456857 [Report]
>>718456740
You mean they don't patch it enough? Why does the game need to be patched constantly though? Brood War hasn't had a patch in like 25 years and it's better than ever
I guess the community balances that game with maps but mobas only have one map so they're fucked?
Anonymous No.718457016 [Report] >>718457158
>>718456687
15% bots
20% poor peruvians & pajeeks
20% SEA bugs
35% smurfs, alts, and acct buyers
10% actual culturally contributing real players

So out of 700k accounts you MAYBE have 70k actual real players that matter and contribute to the life cycle of the game.
Anonymous No.718457158 [Report] >>718457548
>>718457016
70k daily peak would still be in the top 20 most played games on steam.
Cut 90% of players and the game is still wildly popular.
I think this perceived failure is greatly exaggerated.
Anonymous No.718457358 [Report] >>718457506
>>718455679 (OP)
TI doesn't feel the same anymore since Valve went fully hands off

Now it's just another tourny, lame
Anonymous No.718457449 [Report]
>>718456687
if you're not the absolute best by a million miles you're a complete failure
if you're the absolute best by a million miles you're living on borrowed time flavor of the month

this is the mindset of the /v/edditor
Anonymous No.718457506 [Report] >>718457560
>>718457358
>TI doesn't feel the same anymore since Valve went fully hands off

I'm sad that they stopped making True Sight too, but there's other Dota content you can watch. The teams have VLOGs, and ESL has Unmuted, which is their version of True Sight. I watched all the Unmuted movies.
Anonymous No.718457548 [Report] >>718457751
>>718457158
70k is basically dead for a MASSIVE esports game that broke the record for biggest prize pool of ALL-TIME at 40Mil..

International last year was the lowest attended international if you don't coun't the covid virtual 2021 international. And this year the prize pool is a measly $1,600,000. That is the same exact prize pool as the FIRST international in 2011.... 2011... The prize pool keeps dropping every year since valve leaving and if it this rate keeps up, which it looks like it will, if the pool has to be lowered below 1.6mil I doubt if the organizers will even follow through.
Anonymous No.718457560 [Report]
>>718457506
You can see I watched them here. I'm a big Dota fan.
Anonymous No.718457667 [Report] >>718457774 >>718458201
>>718455679 (OP)
>talents
>innate ability
>map size increase
>tormenter
>2 rosh pit
>neutral items
>neutral item currency
>neutral item choose-able substat
fucking hell just revert back to 6.7 or so this is hell
Anonymous No.718457751 [Report] >>718458202 >>718458676
>>718457548
Sounds like the game is fine and very popular but "esports" is dying, which is accurate, the free money spigot shut off years ago and the post-covid return to the mean choked it even harder.
$1.6 million prize pool for a single video game tournament is fucking massive anyway, you're just used to the clown tier money that rolled in during the peak of scamming investors

besides, how does any of that affect the game? You have no shot at the prize pool whether it's $1.6m or $1.60 so what's the difference?
Anonymous No.718457774 [Report]
>>718457667
neutral items were a mistake and should have jsut been a different gamemode
Anonymous No.718457851 [Report]
>>718455679 (OP)
Valve killed it themselves by removing battlepass hype…
>tfw don’t even get stickies anymore on /vg/
Anonymous No.718458169 [Report] >>718458190
>>718455679 (OP)
valve doesn't give a fuck anymore and most pros now are soulless
Anonymous No.718458190 [Report] >>718458436 >>718458439 >>718458718
>>718458169
>most pros now are soulless

What the hell does that mean?
Anonymous No.718458201 [Report] >>718458348
>>718457667
I mean talents have been in thee game since 2015 i think I don't have too big of a problem with them but yeah a lot of the decisions lately make it obvious they don't REALLY know what to do with the map.

2 rosh pits is awkward as fuck, and the fact rosh has to walk from one pit to another, while kind of amusing yes, in the end makes no actual sense other than the devs don't know how to balance his location.

Lotus pools, while initially were made to diversify the gameplay of the laning stage, have actually had the opposite effect and make laning stale as hell with the better skill support usually always being able to snag flower first.

facets are mostly just dumb with heroes having 1 you go 99% of the time and the other you go the other 1% of the time.

Inates could have been cool, but with too many heroes it just became the passive they already had or they have outright dumb ones that make no sense like TA's or IO's.

Replacing wisdom runes with wisdom totems didn't actually address the core problem with it in the first place.

Neutral Items just need to be removed its obvious that there will never be a way to properly balance them and teams will almost always find ways to overmeta the shit out of them. It was boring as fuck watching EWC and EVERY team was going full sister's shroud. It's so dumb. Just remove them.

Tormenter was fine until they fucked with the rosh pits again and now they just awkwardly sit in the far corners of the map making it a hard as fuck objective to take simply because you have to convince your whole dumbass team to stop everything they're doing to treck a mile across the map to fight this thing it's so dumb.

Watchers are dumb and are only there to provide useless busywork into the map

Extended map could have been cool, but only serves as more space for your afk pos 1 to escape to making it even harder to convince him to do fuck all as now he's busy having too much fun killing fucking frogs.
Anonymous No.718458202 [Report]
>>718457751
covid has nothing to do with it.
Anonymous No.718458348 [Report]
>>718458201
you listed a bunch of shit i didnt even know about like lotus pools lmao
i quit right after the map size increase and only know a couple things incidentally like neutral item substats
very grim
Anonymous No.718458436 [Report] >>718458503 >>718459296
>>718458190
International 2011-2019
>Pros shit talk and meme at each other all the time
>Dendi running out of the booth to go taunt other team mid game
>Constant laughing and good times
>Funny comms
>Genuine arcs like Notail and Fly

International 2021-2024
>Only serious comms
>Cigarette Smokers
>Wash your face is the only peak meme
>Gen-z stares
Anonymous No.718458439 [Report]
>>718458190
I'm actually offended on behalf of the Dota pros, because I think everyone on this website is soulless. I can't believe they dare to call anyone soulless. I need to go set up more filters.
Anonymous No.718458503 [Report] >>718458719
>>718458436
>Constant laughing and good times

That happens with the new teams too. I bet you haven't followed a single one, and that's why you don't know. Do you even know who plays on Team Spirit?
Anonymous No.718458676 [Report]
>>718457751
>you're just used to the clown tier money that rolled in during the peak of scamming investors

Dota's prizepool used to be contributed by the gamers through the battlepass compendium, not by "scamming investors". This stopped once Valve abandoned TI and handed it over to PGL.

And this thread isn't about the life support of Dota itself, but the International, which seems to be on it's last leg. I have no doubt that Dota will continue to have a high player count in the future, but as for the Esports scene and general player engagement with it, it is at an all time low. To the point where I feel as if this year might in fact be the last for the International.
Anonymous No.718458718 [Report]
>>718458190
that they have no banter they’re stupid and vapid gen Z’rs, the russians are carrying the scene hard right now
Anonymous No.718458719 [Report] >>718458760 >>718458775
>>718458503
You really think Russians have soul?
Anonymous No.718458760 [Report] >>718458981
>>718458719
If it wasn’t for the russians dota was already dead lol
Anonymous No.718458775 [Report] >>718458992 >>718466008
>>718458719
I think Russians have more soul than the people of this website, yes. You can try and prove you have a soul if you want. I haven't been convinced in a very long time. I spent my life on 4chan and only the people who used to be here had soul.
Anonymous No.718458827 [Report]
>>718455679 (OP)
It took 20 years but mobas are finally dying at last
Anonymous No.718458981 [Report] >>718459146 >>718459528
>>718458760
They play great dota no doubt, but mostly just by the book dota which is boring and souless. They were at their most fun when Torontotokyo was running around the map doing cheesy shit. Look, Team Spirit has been my favorite team ever since 2021 since they play so great, but to say they have soul is funny. They play stone faced the whole time, just look at them and how they play compared to 2018-2019 OG. Ana IO as a carry? like OG were making cheesy comps work that nobody thought was possible and It made for some of the best dota I've ever seen, the whole time they're smiling and laughing in the booths and taunting the other team.
Anonymous No.718458992 [Report]
>>718458775
I see the NPCs have nothing to say, which is fine. I think I'll go through the thread and filter all the images before heading to the catalog to continue filtering. It's like stomping the skulls of the little yellow demons and ugly shitskins.
Anonymous No.718459102 [Report]
I blame putin.
Anonymous No.718459121 [Report]
>Go to Hamburg International
>They don't even serve hamburgers
wtf
Anonymous No.718459146 [Report]
>>718458981
Why do you like those OG clowns so much when you're clearly not humorous in any way? That's how I'm 100% sure this is a fucking ethnic. I hope this sub-human cunt replies.
Anonymous No.718459196 [Report] >>718459285 >>718464386
>>718455679 (OP)
>no battlepass
>not even a compendium
>base prizepool
>letter patch
>back to Hamburg
This is the last one, valve will announce Deadlock official release as their new premier e-sport going forward.
Anonymous No.718459285 [Report]
>>718459196
I can't wait
Anonymous No.718459296 [Report] >>718459389 >>718459501
>>718458436
>>Only serious comms
There's more trash talk than ever now to the point where I wonder how they're not banning people
Anonymous No.718459360 [Report]
>>718455817
>we all are
ESL
Anonymous No.718459379 [Report] >>718459484 >>718460048
i don't know about competitive but i used to love dota up until some years ago when forced 50 became reality
Anonymous No.718459389 [Report]
>>718459296
Not even close ever since OG's run in 2019 they've massively limited comms and voiceline spam. Teams actually get penalties for doing that stuff now so it's actually pretty impossible the the trash talk is worse.
Anonymous No.718459484 [Report] >>718459541
>>718459379
>i used to love dota up until some years ago when forced 50 became reality

It became a reality for me, but it's probably just because I have shit internet. You can still follow the pro scene even if you don't like forced 50.
I tried to get a discussion going but nobody knows shit. They just spend all day complaining like women. I need to hang this thread full of trannies, because I haven't seen a single post worth reading that I didn't write.
Anonymous No.718459501 [Report]
>>718459296
It just seems worse because the trashtalk went from funny sportmanlike spammy banter to just straightup asshole-ish callouts like from ATF.
Anonymous No.718459528 [Report] >>718460116
>>718458981
Both Yatoro and Collapse are GODS faggot, TT was the weakest link
Anonymous No.718459541 [Report]
>>718459484
>loves looking in the mirror over everything else
Sure you're not the tranny bud?
Anonymous No.718459570 [Report]
>>718455679 (OP)
its still 2nd most popular game, it still sells lootboxes and hats
so valve will keep on promoting it as esport
Anonymous No.718459657 [Report]
>>718455679 (OP)
Why does this use graphics from the next WoW expansion?
Anonymous No.718460048 [Report] >>718460269
>>718459379
I have a 58% winrate in Divine. You're just dogshit.
Anonymous No.718460116 [Report]
>>718459528
TT is better than Larl and Mira is better than the current guy. No idea why they split, they could've won the 3rd TI in a row easily.
Anonymous No.718460269 [Report] >>718460354
>>718460048
>I get time raped more sensibly by Lord Gaden's online casino.
yes i too had a positive winrate of 53%. that doesn't mean 90% of my games were not wasted time predetermined by the matchmaking algorithm.
Anonymous No.718460354 [Report] >>718460856
>>718460269
try playing with friends in a stack
Anonymous No.718460856 [Report]
>>718460354
i did. forced 50 is still a reality. the fucking point of ranked is that it's moderated to keep ruiners and griefers away. the game should have a KDA ratio or some harsh penalty vote kick. want to play ranked? earn it. want to ruin a game? back to unranked for a week or two.
Anonymous No.718461010 [Report] >>718461412
>People still think forced 50/50 is a thing in fucking dota
Some things truly never change.
Anonymous No.718461104 [Report]
they killed dota esports but doing away with the old battlepass system that bloated the player purse. It's almost embarassing to watch dota now, cause they are playing for Indian mcdonalds wages even when they win first place.
Anonymous No.718461218 [Report]
>>718455679 (OP)
Do they still give a third of what the saudis give?
Anonymous No.718461412 [Report] >>718461954
>>718461010
You realize those stats don't mean shit right? You're not accounting for ALL of your heroes. Show us your overall winrate then? Look at my heroes. These are my stats yet my winrate is right at 50%.
Anonymous No.718461954 [Report] >>718463175
>>718461412
Okay, idk what to tell you though looks like you play for fun spamming characters you're not really influencing the game on and just coasting through.
Anonymous No.718463175 [Report] >>718463365 >>718463678
>>718461954
>2 years and 7 months since last played
>"game is alive though!!"
KEK
Anonymous No.718463365 [Report]
>>718463175
That wasn't the point, the point was the forced 50 is bullshit.
Anonymous No.718463367 [Report] >>718463456
>>718455679 (OP)
game was dead around 2016 when only retarded russnigger were playing and all white people quit.
Anonymous No.718463456 [Report] >>718463510
>>718463367
Why did american whites suddenly get a huge hair up their asses about mobas back then? I saw the same thing with league and overwatch.
Anonymous No.718463510 [Report] >>718463649
>>718463456
Who cares about Americans, nobody likes playing with Russians, not even Russians.
Anonymous No.718463649 [Report] >>718463785
>>718463510
Because they're the only ones /v/ cares about. Euros suck and deserve raped into the same matches as russians anyway.
Anonymous No.718463678 [Report]
>>718463175
>Make the map retarded
>Add retarded HotS shit
>Add retarded league shit
>Le funny RNG jungle items that decide if you win early/late game or not
>More retarded global shit
>Im the 4th spirit man who creates OMNI STATS
>Characters leaning into retarded memes HURR HURR 0 INT
Yeah, no thanks.
Anonymous No.718463785 [Report] >>718463989
>>718463649
>Because they're the only ones /v/ cares about.
NA has not been relevant in Dota since digital chaos or EG you retard.
Anonymous No.718463989 [Report] >>718464097
>>718463785
Yes and I want to know why they all quit mobas around that time
Anonymous No.718464097 [Report]
>>718463989
How would I know? Fatties don't really care about E-Sport. E-sport especially Valve games were all always about Europeans.
Anonymous No.718464098 [Report]
Mobafags need to learn their genre is dead there hasn't released anything of relevancy in 15 years.
Anonymous No.718464180 [Report] >>718465253 >>718465613
>>718455679 (OP)
Return to Your dying father, StarCraft broodwar, there's a tourno rn and the link Is on the catalog
Anonymous No.718464335 [Report]
Went to Copenhagen last year for the first time TI experience and despite the absurd prices the venue and the surroundings were all barebones as fuck. Felt a bit scammed in that regard. The atmosphere was amazing though
Anonymous No.718464386 [Report]
>>718459196
Valve are barely hands on with their esports nowadays

Who cares about Deadlock if it's going to be in that ESL/Dreamhack slop
Anonymous No.718465253 [Report]
>>718464180
I rather sniff glass
Anonymous No.718465485 [Report]
Still the second most popular game on Steam and for the people who care about the competitive side there are still lots of tournaments, the only thing that changed is that The International isn't as prestigious as it used to be, there are other Tier 1 tournaments that are about as important.
Anonymous No.718465613 [Report]
>>718464180
If I boot up brood war I ain't playin shit except We Are Friend
Anonymous No.718466008 [Report]
>>718458775
>more soul
Yeah the very people that get raped, stripped of their human rights, exploited, sent off to gulags, sent off to kys in a ditch after a meat assault and they sit there and take it and ask for more. Peak soul. Very based,
And in the topic of video games - The very people who scream like maniacs on all chat, grief games on the regular and refuse to cooperate. Peak soul. Very based.