Thread 719674709

damn you could fit at least 5 AAA games on that

That does not even cover my feet pics folder

>>719674709 (OP)
What's the failure rate on that one?

Modern mobos and most NAS won't even detect drives that large

>>719675553
HDDs have a shelf life of like 7 years, they're not great unless you buy 4 and RAID them, otherwise you're rolling the dice.

>>719675614
What's the max detectable capacity?

I will never buy anything over 500gb. It's a waste of money because they always fail. Even nvmes only last about 5-10 years now.

>>719675681
24TB-28TB, then it falls off a cliff

>>719674709 (OP)
Well you do have to buy at least two of them.

>>719675821
>what are backups

>>719675676
i might have been daily driving an old pc build with a mechanical drive for 15 years straight.

>SMR drive

Yeah I do need write speeds over 50mb/s

>>719674709 (OP)
wasn't that guy who made the weird cartoon about swords caught with like 9 TB of CP? I mean, in time he could have easily filled those 32 TB easily

8 of these in a NAS along with 2 8TB M.2 SSDs as cache drives.

>>719676818
Yea, people that claim HDD have short life spans are retards.

I have 2TB SSD. And I have about 10TB in HDDs that I use for storage

the beauty of a network storage system is that you don't need a lot of storage in any of your user devices

ideally, you shouldnt be storing anything on your daily use devices except stuff you install

>>719677214
i does make me wonder how many hours of use this thing has, i turn my computer on every day and it stays on for at least 8-10 hours once turned on, it has been a boot drive for the last 6 years and a secondary drive before that.

my guess is somewhere around 50,000 hours

>>719677482
Is using my old PC when I upgrade good enough as to use as network storage (with big HDD upgrades) or should I look into more specialized hardware?

>>719677561
yes. a toaster would work as a NAS

you can literally turn a router into a NAS, or a raspberry pi

>>719677631
That's what I figured but I know better than to underestimate my retardation.

>>719677561
Yes but it'll eat more power compared to dedicated NAS boxes.

Also avoid the Synology kikes.

>>719674709 (OP)
damn
i have a 2tb drive for backups and ive not even filled 40% of it.

>>719677702
with your former computer, you can do more than a NAS with it. A NAS setup usually minuscule processing. You can turn it into a media centre for streaming video and music as well

>>719676818
My 320gb ps2 hard drive still runs to this day, almost 20 years now and has gotten a shit ton of use.

I only had one drive fail, a HDD that I dropped when it was on

>>719677820
Yeah that's what I'd like to look into when I do upgrade from this PC, seems like it'd be a really cool thing to have set up.

>>719677561
i used to have a nas but then i realized i was only turning it on maybe 3 or 4 times a year so i just removed the drives, labelled them, put them in usb enclosures, plug them in whenever i need to put on/pull anything off of them, then unplug them and put them away.

>>719674709 (OP)
Ideally I want at least 1000tb

is there a good resource for optimized long term storage methods or something
like there's no way I can just buy a big drive, put all my data in it and just put it in a box somewhere
that's a rabbit hole I've been meaning to really figure out

>>719678643
>long term storage methods
multiple backups, that's it. put your real important stuff on a hdd, usb drive, dvd, make an encrypted zip file or some shit and upload it somewhere, and then email it to 15 different email accounts you have, etc. etc.

>>719678643
8 bay nas (6 active with 2 backups, at least one m.2 drive as a cache drive)
cold storage (hdds/ssds that aren't powered and stored somewhere safe that you can remember)
cloudnigger (paying for a datacenter corpo to hoard your data, only do this for precious one offs in case of fire/flood/mass failure)
the era of sticking hdds into your mobo is over, buy or build a fucking nas
sweet spot for read/writes/capacity is 22tb, never buy smr drives and only go for exos or red pros at the bare minimum
higher capacity is cool but they'll take ages to update

>>719679175
nta but probably not going as far as a nas. is there a recommended hdd brand?

>>719674709 (OP)
I remember buying a 1TB drive in 2007 and bragging to all my friends at work how I could installl every video game ever made at the same time...

>>719679396
>only go for exos or red pros at the bare minimum
not that hard to read anon

>>719674709 (OP)
>Ultrasaar

>>719677214
They do have short life spans, it's statistical though
>90% of drives survive 3 years, 80% survive 4 years, 65% survive 6 years; by 7 years, about half will have failed.
So you have a 50% chance of beating the stated lifetime, that's why there's anons with 15 year old drives.

>>719675047
i nuked my cute feet folder in a bout of post nut clarity and regret it :(

>>719679442
you definitely can't. My DOS collection is bigger than 1TB

>>719674709 (OP)
i have two 1tb m.2 and like another tb in old ssds and i think like a third of that total is full.
i dont hoard data, i just download things when i need to

>>719675614
Bullshit lmao

>>719678643
If it's something you use a lot you want a nas where you can swap out dead drives.
If we're talking actual long term then there's some high capacity single write DVDs that have a lifetime of +1000 years, or I dunno about the interface but you can get magnetic tape drives which last forever and don't degrade, companies use them for physical data backups.

>>719677507
>i does make me wonder how many hours of use this thing has
Check the SMART data then, retard

The secret to easy backups is not hoarding shit. All my shit together is less than a terrabyte because I only keep the truly irreplaceable shit. Free time gets less and less. I don't give a fuck if I lose all my games and other entertainment shit. Hell, I want it to happen. But I do backup information about my entire system so I will at least know what I have lost in worst case.

>>719680305
Ah yes, the poorfag cope of excusing shitty, terminally ancient PC parts under the guise of some form of enlightened superiority. The absolute /v/ classic

I'm THIS FUCKING CLOSE to buying an 8TB NVME drive and replacing my year old 10TB HDD. This fucking thing is not only a lot slower than my 9 year old 5TB HDD, but it also makes this obnoxious clicking sound every 5 seconds.
>uh oh anon someone's drive is dying!
Nope. It's this new bullshit technology that cropped up in drives recently called Preventative Wear Leveling and it's the most awful fucking sound I've ever heard in my life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQRq3nJmNSk

>>719679515
I meant external. It’s all on a macbook that I don’t use

>>719680246
i literally never used that before.

also the answer was 54,883.5 hours

>>719676818
Honestly depends the most on what brand you buy. I have 10 year old Toshiba and Western digital harddrives that are 10+ years old and still perform well and they have like nearly 50k power on hours on them.
Meanwhile in that time I've had 2 Seagate drives fail. The way they always fail is the same everytime too, it's not a gradual decline with obvious signs of failure, not clicking or showing signs in tests and benchmarks, the drives fail spectacularly, one day they work, the next they either don't power on or the arm stops moving or they just become unreadable.

>>719675614
They work fine, they're not just "officially" supported

>>719675676
Funny because I've had the same HDD for over 15 years and it still works just as good as the day I bought it. It's been relegated to a basic storage drive but it's never once had performance issues or drive failures.

>>719681198
>>719679828

>>719677214
My loli porn will outlive me.

>>719674709 (OP)
yes. now that I discovered the internet archive cli tool I am going to require much much more

>>719674709 (OP)
>Ultra saar

>>719675676
The only drive I have had fail was a shitty seagate one.

>>719680753
obs stupid how could I tell that the arm stoped moving? More stories please

>>719682195
You don't reall ynotice it desu, like anon said. it's either a slow declince(files corrupting, slower than usual, you can't delete files properly) or it just one day breaks

you can check up on it via apps and check the harddrive health

best you can do is just check the health and pray, mostly. and have backups.

i have like 10 harddrives in my nas, only one have died, while my really old ones ar efine (for now) but eventually they will probably die too