Thread 720118716

Just dusted the ol Switch browsing the eShop and noticed that this game is on sale for 24 bucks. Saw a lot of praises for it last year but it kinda faded away over time. Looked it up in the archives and apparently it's super easy but aren't all JRPGs easy? Like Persona and Final Fantasy are easy, but they're still decent fun.

I played the demo and I think I like it but I can't tell for sure just yet.

Worth getting? Is it f u n?

It's comfy, it's easy like you said same as Fire Emblem etc. I would put it on Tactical or above. It's all very straight-forward story wise etc but enjoyable still.

If you have a PS4/5 this game was added to PS+ for "free" so must be the reason its also on sale.

This kind of games lives in a sort of limbo where they're developed so a player could finish them with more or less a decent and varied army but these are games played by certified spreadsheets neckbeards who are capable and willing to squeeze every extra +0,1% so they end up feeling too easy for their niche audience.

>>720118985
I downloaded to try it out and have to ask, why are all vanillaware games this fucking boring bros? all they have going for it always is the visuals alone since story and music are never that great.

>>720118716 (OP)
It's not a JRPG.

>>720119130
>why are all vanillaware games this fucking boring bros
Outside of artwork, all of their games are pretty basic genres yeah I agree. I've always seen them similar to Dragon Quest studio, where they've always kept their games strictly to a basic JRPG etc. Might be a Japanese thing.

>>720118716 (OP)
It's not just that it's easy, but that it's very samey over it's rather long run time.

The fun is largely in tinkering with your formations and making ones that are really stupid overpowered and then steamrolling everything.
But how long can you draw out that fun before it starts to lose its luster?

>>720119290
Probaby longer than any lasting relationship I've had, so I'll take it.

>>720118716 (OP)
I really enjoyed it! I think it's better than Fire Emblem easily.

>>720118716 (OP)
I played the demo too
The mom is pretty hot and obviously not dead

>>720119290
easy and samey
that can describe every single vanillaware title.
their games are just visual novels with some extra steps in the end.

>>720118716 (OP)
https://2024.vidyagaemawards.com/winners
It won "best visual aesthetics" and "Best writing" in last year's /v/gas so yes it's pretty dang good. Even second place in "Least Worst" losing only to Balatro.

>>720118716 (OP)
is this the Omnikron Underlords thread?

>>720119568
>and "Best writing"
This is wild because Unicorn Overlord has incredibly boilerplate writing for both the main plot and most of the character writing.

>>720118716 (OP)
Typically vanillaware games have some kind of late game grind because they have to justify making the assets but Unicorn Overlord instead just takes long to finish for how simple the systems and story are. The game plays itself and you'll probably have a setup that can clear the game 15 hours before credits. If you don't mind all that it's worth it for the visuals alone.

>>720119568
/v/gas awards also gave "Most Likely to Cause Heart Palpitations" to a hentai clicker game and "Best Multiplayer" to a Discord mod powertrip simulator, so maybe take those with a grain of salt, yeah? Unicorn Overlord is solid if you're into min-maxing tactics and anime archetypes eating stew for three consecutive cutscenes. Writing’s fine if you're nostalgic for ye olde fantasy melodrama, but "best"? Eh. At least it doesn’t insult your intelligence like some modern AAA slop.

it's tiresome

>>720119290
This. It's a solid game that really overstays its welcome

>>720118716 (OP)
The fun is in learning the game mechanics and making interesting combos. I don't think people are wrong when they say it's easy, but that's only half the picture - fun isn't a function of mere difficulty.
I tried every class in the game at least once. I played the demo 3 times, figuring out the most optimal route through it and finally beating the first Galerius fight in one round. I beat Amalia with level 20 units in one run (took her to 0 HP). I did a run where I went to Bastorias for my 2nd region.
Game is full of soft challenges like that but if you find the one thing that works for you and then cruise through on autopilot, yes you will bore yourself to death because it isn't that hard to simply win.

Basically what this anon said >>720119054, the challenges are implied rather than forced so the game can actually be winnable by non-autists.

>>720119568
>"Best writing"

One of the few games I'd actually like to play on my PC instead. I imagine playing a game like this with a native mouse must be nice.

>>720118716 (OP)
I tried playing it. Looks pretty, but got pretty bored around 2-3 hours in.

>>720118716 (OP)
Well it's definitely GOTY of 2024 which isn't saying much. It is a game that's polished and fun. It gets better if you start tinkering with builds and watching your teams fight each other. I must have spent hours just watching my own guys counter my own strategies.

>>720118716 (OP)
PC release when?

>>720118716 (OP)
>Unicron Overload
Can you imagine?
>You defeat Galerius
>suddenly the sky turns dark
>the transformers movie theme kicks in

>>720118716 (OP)
It's super good. But it is easy. And no, plenty of SRPGs are hard.

>>720127560
> plenty of SRPGs are hard
Like?

>>720127718
Fire Emblem Fates Conquest.

>>720127782
good, but not actually hard

>>720118716 (OP)
It's a great game. It is easy, but it's actually still more difficult than the game it's primarily inspired by (unless you count all the obscure bullshit you have to do to get some of the endings in Ogre Battle as difficulty, anyway.)

I have over 200 hours in Unicorn Overlord over two playthroughs. The tinkering is the best part, and that will determine how much you're invested in the game. I didn't think I would spend that much time in an auto-battler, but messing around with formations can be very addictive.

>>720118716 (OP)
The game is really good and one of the best ones in this genre. Extremely underrated. For $25 it is a steal.

I remember starting the game at one difficulty, going up 1step after a while and lowering it again in the snowy country.
Any way to know what difficulty I played?
All I remember is I was getting bored of using the same couple squads for most levels since everyone else got wrecked in one round by furries.

>>720119568
Best writing is very silly unless there was just trash nominated
>Metaphor
>Yakuza IF
>A remake
>Nothing else worth mentioning
Ehh okay. Maybe Mouthwashing had a more interesting story if shorter.

>>720129939
I wish I could play it more than once but there is just so much fucking menuing. I had fun with my first and let it lay

PC?

>>720133405
Yes, unless you have brain damage.

>>720118716 (OP)
it's a strategy RPG that requires zero strategy, you can brute force your way through the whole game

i enjoyed it

>strategy game
>on the switch
>can't just fucking point the joycon at the screen to control the cursor
one fucking job

>>720134194
>play ogre battle
>have to design and think about your party lineups before battle deployment
>can only have minor external influence during battle with tarot cards
>play unicorn overlord
>ends up boiling down to "how do i adjust my unit positions in every single pre-battle to go from doing 3 damage and everybody dying to taking none and killing the enemy"
my biggest gripe for sure.

>>720136289
I agree that changing formations like that on the fly shouldn't be a thing, at least not with the way the damage forecast works, but I can't imagine having such terrible squad setups that you actually feel the need to waste time doing it.

Also, I wouldn't call tarot cards in Ogre Battle a minor influence on the battle. They are incredibly strong and you have an essentially limitless supply of them. Consumable items are also quite powerful; you can have a squad get nearly slaughtered and then just bring them back to full strength instantly. You should never need to do this because the game is even easier than Unicorn Overlord, but the option is there.

>>720135140
It's a multiplat so they made it work with whatever controls all the platforms had in common and didn't put in any extra effort for shit like that. It would've been very cool if they had.

>>720118716 (OP)
The game is great. I do remember it being a somewhat easy, though I also don't think I played it on the very highest difficulty (I had no idea what I was getting into or how easy it would be).

>>720136289
>ends up boiling down to "how do i adjust my unit positions in every single pre-battle to go from doing 3 damage and everybody dying to taking none and killing the enemy"
Learn the mechanics so so you don't have to do this, retard. Holy shit.

It's a solid 5/10 game. The gameplay is brain dead, story is uninteresting and the girls are half-baked. Play some actual strategy game or gacha instead.

>>720137875
It's not on pc. What would they use other than normal controller?

>>720138265
>What would they use other than normal controller?
Literally what the post I quoted mentioned, use a joycon you point at the screen for pointer control. It would work much better than an analog stick and other games have done it before (like the port of SMG).

What do you think is the best Vanillaware game?

>>720138456
dragons crown since its the least boring one but yet its still ridiculously grindy and boring.

Sure it is fun but it only has about 2 hours of gameplay. You make mixed squads with flying units and that's the whole game.

dear diary
just finished my fifth consecutive run and professor of curvature didn't drop once
it's like I dumped that 30k carats for no reason
I'm starting to think that this isn't a very good game