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>silksong and sekiro so hard omg

no, they're not hard. you just have to learn patterns. any toddler could beat them

DRAWING is hard

What a retarded thing to say

>>720302391
elaborate at least

>>720302089 (OP)
Drawing isn't hard. Children can do it.

>>720302904
Based
faggot OP btfo

>>720302089 (OP)
>any toddler could beat them
but not you

>>720302904

show a good children drawing

>>720302089 (OP)
OP is right. AI can beat those games faster than any human being but AI can't draw.

>>720302991
Sure. What would you accept as a "good drawing". Be specific with your definition.

>>720302089 (OP)
Drawing is fun.

>>720302089 (OP)
Drawing isn’t hard it just takes time and patience and practice. Nothing is hard. I can beat sekiro and the drawing board if I want. In the 50 hours I spend playing a video game I could significantly improve in drawing.

>>720303141
as long as there’s decent knowledge of proportions, perspective, volume, and lighting/shading. bonus if it also has a unique style and good aesthetics

>>720303854

>In the 50 hours I spend playing a video game I could significantly improve in drawing.
>significantly

>>720304004
The problem you and most of that board isn’t spending that kind of time doing it, you’re not serious. Drawing is a skill like any other.

Don't learn to draw, it turns you into a degenerate.

The real blackpill to drawing is that unless you are lucky, it's basically generational. I'm the first in my family with any artistic ability or appreciation whatsoever, so I wasted a lot of time working on things that were ultimately dead ends or just bad.

Watching my niece watch me draw this here rabbit and immediately start replicating what I was doing was almost surreal. Wetting the chalk, highlights on the eyes, rudimentary shading. It made the early years of me sucking so much worse than all the other drawfags in school make perfect sense.

>>720304946
There is no blackpill to drawing or for any skill. “It’s just luck or you’re born with inherent talent” is the biggest cope for people that never really tried and then gave up

>>720304946

all you need is to really enjoy it and have the means to develop it. If you start at 30 and have financial stability, you can achieve it in a couple of years. If you’re a child and your environment encourages it, that works too

>>720305287

talent = i really like this

>>720305287
Talent and hard works always trumps hard work and no talent.

>>720302089 (OP)
Timegating progress behind daily rep grind is just shit design, not difficulty.

>>720304824

you've always been a degenerate anon, drawing just expose you

>>720302089 (OP)
>DRAWING is hard
No? I can gen anything I want with minimal effort.

>>720307837

drawing is not clicking buttons anon

>>720302089 (OP)

Is the reality that there are too many aspiring artists and not enough money to go around? Are there too many gamedevs too?

I guess the bigger question is: what are we supposed to do with our lives? Die?

Drawing to make money is hard and oversaturated. What should we do instead? Do we have any ideas?

>>720303141
fucking bitch im waiting

>>720302089 (OP)
It's 2025
Just use AI

>>720308270

don’t look at what others are doing, just draw because you enjoy it. try to support yourself financially with something else. I’m telling you this from experience, I’ve been doing it for years. and don’t kill yourself over it either. it’s a very VERY slow process

>>720302824
>X isn't hard once you've learnt it!
truly, OP is an insightful and wise individual.

>>720308938
effectively, how difficult something is depends on how much time you can dedicate to it. Thanks for the compliment

These blackpilled many a hard work coper back in my day

>>720309116
yeah great, glad we cleared up this conundrum.
What was the point of this thread?

>>720309249

there's no point if you already know it, you can leave

>>720302089 (OP)
It still seems so funny to me someone came up with recommending loomis to people as a malicious meme then years after it's still being perpetuated lmao it's deliciously evil.

i'm still new, but how come some days I draw noticably worst than others even if I try and analyze what I am loooking at ?

It's discouraging.

>>720305904
Anon be careful with dropping nuclear redpills so nonchalantly.

>>720302089 (OP)
I had fun going through the book. Thanks Loomis!

>>720302089 (OP)
nortubel is hard

>>720304946
talent plays a factor in how quickly someone can pick up and intuit skills and not waste their time trying to learn new skills, but i think anyone can learn how to draw as long as they're given proper instruction and guidance.

most artists are self-taught, which means a lot of floundering around and struggling not really knowing what you're doing or what to do to improve, in worse cases spending months or years stagnated without any improvements to show for it.

>>720309543

works well for an idea at basic levels. Proko's videos summarize the videos well

>>720302089 (OP)
I miss when bad artists were called cartoonists

Learning how to draw is just a matter of persistence

Learning how to draw nice inspiring stuff is a matter of lifestyle and taste, two things you basically can't acquire in any way but natural, that is where true talent lies

>>720305904
Having fun > talent or working hard

>>720310073

yes

>>720304620
I'm normally good at self-teaching and picking up new skills, but I found drawing to be completely impenetrable, and the time I spent trying to work out the basics got me nowhere. It really isn't like other skills.

>>720309998
>Proko
Never utter that name again.

>>720310073
anyway, everyone has something beautiful to show. If everyone knew how to draw the basics, they would be able to create really great things. imagination is limited by skill

>>720310154
Only talented people have fun drawing or with anything other activity, that's the point.

>>720310385
Wrong, lots of people with great art skills draw exclusively garbage

>>720310547

where’s the great skill? look at that hand anatomy, just plain basic shadows. No volume in the dog’s face. The trees, the landscape. he’s a game developer who probably tried to learn and replicate his fantasies as quickly as possible, maybe studying at some university. But I’ll give you that not everyone has something good to show

>>720310154
Having fun is a privilege only the talented can enjoy

>>720305904
Fuck even moderate work and talent btfos hard work and no talent

>>720310154
Having fun is to kill comparison toward others. As comparison is the persistent thief of joy, killing comparison is true fun; the freedom from ever having to compare yourself to others especially against the talent-havers.

>>720312349
Yeah, talent is a mutiplier of hard work. People born with different multipliers for each activity, you just gotta find the one you have that's the highest.

>>720302089 (OP)
Drawing is for kids, grown up use AI instead

>>720310434
Nope
If you enjoy what you do, you won't care if you have talent for it or not
>>720311865
Cope excuse to not do anything at all

>>720310154
>having fun
>when everything I draw is complete dogshit
I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble finding the "fun" in drawing stuff so terrible I can't show it to anyone out of shame which only makes me hate myself over my lack of skills

>>720314021
everyone has to walk a path full of dogshit to create masterpieces. If you don’t understand this or don’t have the patience for it, just leave like a loser

>>720302089 (OP)
>drawing is hard

>>720313064
AI is for consumer NPCs. It will never satisfy your creative drive.
>Implying you have a creative drive.

Hey fellas are we havin an art thread, ask me anything relatin to art or cartooning. I always wanna help others cause I know how frustratin it was startin out.

>>720315906
I dislike your art

>>720315906
The art thread's over here anon >>720166617

>>720315906
Damn, even your guns look decent, all I could muster was complete dogshit

>>720302089 (OP)
I asked for drawing advice yesterday and an anon recommended this book, but looking through it really doesn't seem like it's made for beginners.
Could any anons who started drawing later in life tell me what they did to improve? I've been drawing for about 2 weeks learning from draw a box.

>>720316132
Yeah guns are tricky because there’s tons of enthusiasts out there and nothin gets by em. YouTube’s your friend, and do is sketchfab. Most important of all, learn to draw a gun from the side so you can transform it to suggest perspective. You’ll have to redraw the gun, but at least you’ll know the proportions are right, keeps you from going cross-eyed.

>>720315954
Nice, thanks anon. Bookmarking that. Just didn’t wanna flood the board with more aimless whining about talent when people could actually help each other improve. Gonna lurk that thread now.

>>720315906
How did you get past the beginner stage of only being able to draw basic flat shapes? Is there something that helped you understand putting something from your imagination onto the paper?

>>720316972
By drawing spheres, boxes, and cylinders. For practice with cylinders, use a drinking glass. For spheres, maybe you can find a transparent toy ball somewhere, then draw facial features on it with marker and then tilt it at different angles. For a box, there may be a toy where you can connect pieces together to form one and then rotate that around. I also recommend The Famous Artists Cartoon Course (public domain) as well as watching golden age cartoons on YouTube or Dailymotion, see how the features change as their heads roll around.

>>720318203
Thank you anon, this looks a lot more digestible than Loomis.