Thread 720308451

What went wrong?

>>720308451 (OP)
what kind of weirdo doesnt use steam?

>>720308529
>want to play during steam maintenance
>can't
standalone client also has lower loading times at least for me

>>720308451 (OP)
>Act 1 good size maps
>Act 2 maybe a bit bug sometimes. Just fine.
>A single Act 3 map is the size of all of Act 1.
>Bonus content thats designed for you to not take damage when melee characters exist and even a thorns build.
>GGG still has literally no idea how to make melee characters. Even Warrior is just an earth mage for some fucking reason.
>Let's slow down the game cool! Its already being slowly crept back into the ARPG standard of zooming through levels mashing one button.
It was fun for a little while but once I beat Act 3 I never wanted to touch the game again it was such a a slog. I'll patiently wait for the already infinitely more fun Titan Quest 2 to release.

who cares, async trade carried so hard and poe1 is going to be once again the best ARPG when it comes in the new league next month

>>720309189
They'll add async trade to poe1 and ruin that game too, arpgs are dead

>>720308451 (OP)
>what if we made a game with even worse visual clarity than poe1
>but every monster runs up to you at mach 11 and does epic dark souls attacks that you need to see and dodge
>and your character controls like you're stuck in tar

>>720308972
poe2 was about instantly killing everything with one button since 0.1. It's even easier to do so than it was in poe1. The only difference is that you have to hold W for a few seconds in between screen explosions.

>>720310530
Yeah when the enemies are the exact same colour as the fucking floor. I hate this shit. I also hate bosses becoming immune to all damage and getting in cheap hits.

focusing on endgame treadmills and seasonal bullshit affixes before FINISHING THE FUCKING GAME

>>720310530
>overlapping on-death ground degen
>leap slam over it
>still take damage

Only updating every 4 months. Funny they said they'd be nearing 1.0 at this time but it's only 0.3 with tons missing

game runs like shit

>>720312079
wow really? that sucks

>>720310530
>and it runs at 20-40 fps
>and stutters non stop
>and crashes 3x an hour
i never had these issues on poe1 even running older hardware. how fucking hard is it to just take poe1 engine/assets and make a new game without it running like shit

>Kill a pack of enemies in abyssal dephs
>Barely visible proximity mines everywhere
>Enemy tank monster that can't be damaged spams heavy hits and fires death lazer
>Die and can't try again

getting ascendancy points is so bad i miss the lab and i hated the lab but at least it didn't add penalties

>>720308972
Bingo. Bald Fucking Retards "TEH VISION"™ is just content bloat instead of a tight cohesive one-and-done ARPG experience like Diablo 2.
>BUT WAHT ABOUT NIGHTMARE AND HEL--
I'm gonna stop you right there, Chief. Nobody but Gran Autismos played past Normal mode and Normal Mode was 20 hours maximum.

The fact PoE2's freeweekend took me 12 hours to complete act 1 is not a good thing.

They don't know what to do with it.
If they just make it PoE 2 in terms of "literally path of exile and the meta there, but again" then there's no point making a PoE 2
but on the other hand, falling for the dark souls
>meaningful combat
meme and making every common enemy take 5 seconds to beat falls flat when there's 5,000 of them on each map and they're all completely useless trash mobs
But they keep getting massively conflicting feedback at all times and as a result have no concrete direction for the game

>>720308451 (OP)
the vision failed miserably, now they're just making poe1 again

>>720309364
>arpgs
You mean looter action rpgs.

>>720315093
>If they just make it PoE 2 in terms of "literally path of exile and the meta there, but again" then there's no point making a PoE 2
"one game, two campaigns". That was the whole idea, just making an alternate campaign because people were bored with the old one.

>>720315381
a skip button would have taken less resources

the scope of the game got too large so its not even remotely close to a finished product

>>720314932
Chaos is hard and unfair, sanctum is really bad, boring and frustrating.
I also miss the boring as fudge labyrinth.

>>720315381
Maybe I'm just autistic but why not just make a DLC campaign for the original path of exile, then? If they were all going to buy it anyway, wouldn't that be easier than trying to re-invent the entire game?

>99% of all skills/spells are unusable trash
>I LOVE ON DEATH EFFECTS - said nobody
>"""""crafting""""""""""

>>720315616
at least lab has izaro's voicelines. there is literally not a single fun thing in any of poo2's ascendancy mechanics. it's actually remarkable just how antifun they are.

>>720315674
but there is crafting, omens let you make amazing gear now. You can go further and make even crazier gear with omens but then you’ll be running into fracturing rng

>>720308451 (OP)
It's not fun and inconvenient to play.
If you have to download a loot filter from sketchy serbian website outside the game, especially on console when your main action button, item pick and contextual action are all the same button, you have a terribly designed game.
Loot salvage needed to just be done by the player or inventory size needs to be abolished, there's nothing fun about going back to town every 10 minutes.

>>720315663
A handful of years ago somebody at GGG decided that every single good thing about poe1 is actually a problem that needs to be fixed and that became the core design philosophy of poe2. In an extremely rare moment of clarity they realized that destroying the game that people actually like would be really bad for the company so they split them into two games. They were obviously planning on making everyone move over to poe2 but it became obvious that a sizeable portion of their existing base would rather just quit than spend money on that garbage so they essentially got cucked into continuing to work on poe1.

>>720315971
yea let me craft those gears with the 7 divines i got in total at lvl 90

They listed to ARPG players and made it into a boring cookie clicker. Same thing happened to D4.

>>720315674
>on death effects
>puddles of shit on the ground that drain 10% of your health per second
removing these would already improve the game by 20%

>>720316082
They just decide at complete random that X or Y is suddenly against
>I HAFF A VISION
and delete it from the game entirely basically or entirely
granted it's quite funny when for ages no one has a problem with Stone Stoneblade Stoning being a build or whatever it's called and then one day it gets a 99% damage penalty and all of the cultists just pretend it was all this broken OP cheat build that should have never existed in the first place rather than dare to oppose the cult

>>720315971
crafting in poe2 is somehow even worse than in poe1. it is truly mind-boggling that they saw alt spamming and decided to fix it by instead making you farm up a gorillion bases to do anything

>>720308451 (OP)
The game is fine but the whole combo thing gets kinda boring after a while. I much prefer the PoE1 style where you typically use one skill to do most of the work. Using skills in PoE1 feels better in general. There's so much built-in delay in bunch of PoE2 skills.

>>720316120
Why do you need the min maxed gear right away? Nothing wrong with getting some cheap gear for the meanwhile to do maps fast. Hell you could go make a decent crossbow right now to use galvanic shards, should at most cost like a div or two if you buy a meh magic base with omens and essences to use

>>720308451 (OP)
Jonathan's whore mother failed to abort him.

>>720308451 (OP)
Endgame is complete dogshit right now, and that's the reason most people play PoE (at least PoE1). Also the game is maybe 30% finished. Feels like free beta testing.

>>720315381
They could've just done an endless ledge, like the one they did during racing events.
They are just retarded to boot.

>>720315971
> omens let you make amazing gear now
Sure they do, when they drop or IF they drop at all.

>>720316687
>right away
im lvl 90

Offline version of PoE with mods when?

>>720317185
Motion seconded.

i just want to play witchunter but the class balance is so shit that people just play the same meta Lightning Arrow build

>>720316984
>>720317025
I think you both are overestimating the gear you need, heck you can do fine with just a good weapon. The most expensive omen you would need is the one that force a suffix to be replaced when using a perfect essence, your weapon could be expensive too depending on how good you want the phys% to be but otherwise it was pretty cheap 3 days ago when I made a crossbow so maybe now it’s more expensive then I realized

>0.1 I played a LA deadeye
>0.2 I played a lightning spear deadeye
>0.3 I played a LA deadeye
evasion and es are beyond busted. when will this niggers learn that mobility is key. even if deadeye only had 10% ms as her whole ascendency people would still pick it over anything else.

>>720317419
im using galvanic shards its been pretty shit so far but then again my only comparison is stat stacking monk i played back in 0.1

>>720317337
at least they added spears

>>720317575
>"lets see.. 5k max hp and lets have es scale up to 50k.. there, we balanced it!" -GGG

>Can't play a fem monk
It deserved to fail

>>720317573
i only have 1.9k hp because my gear is shit so i get one shots by fucking kosis of all things

>>720317903
>5k max hp
literally how
almost every piece of my gear has around +100 but i only got 1.9k

I stalled at the interludes, Act 4 was fun but overall the campaign became a slog.
Is endgame worth doing if I ever make it there? I've heard nothing but bad things about towers.

>>720318397
everyone hates endgame
everyone

>>720308451 (OP)
They forgot to balance the early game since GGG has been conditioned to only give a shit about mapping since that's the only thing you do in POE1. Slow animations, long combos, swarms of enemies, and for some reason they reverted the dodge roll character size bug from 2.0, making it an actual chore to get through the first 2 acts, let alone on an off-meta character. Once you're in act 3, the game actually opens up and you start breezing your way to maps, but at that point most players have left.

>>720317419
https://store.steampowered.com/app/215530/The_Incredible_Adventures_of_Van_Helsing/
Grab these on sale.

>>720308451 (OP)
Chris Wilson already sold this garbage and became RICH. He won. POE trannies lost.

>>720318137
grand regalia with health sockets and health mods on every piece including max health on amulet and chest with strength stacking

>>720312079
I quit because of the shroud walker abyssal rares.

>>720308451 (OP)
Got off to a rocky start, but the game is pretty good this patch, so I think it'll keep getting better.

>>720318756
Poison bow singletarget was crazy effective during 0.1 then they destroyed it from like 5 different directions.

>>720319041
Max health% on chest and amulet*

>>720316813
>free beta testing
You mean beta testing the testers need to pay for?

>>720318756
>try to play with jonathan-approved comboslop
>get this
>use one of like three skills that actually do damage
>boss dies in five seconds
this game is so bad it's unreal

>>720319586
>>720318756
Skill issue, you can make like 90% of
the skills do good damage

>>720319586
>>720320097
how fast should a boss die to "good damage"

>>720320157
I killed that boss on league start with an "off meta" totem warrior is like 15-20 seconds tops

>>720320097
yea if you have about 100 divs sure

>>720308451 (OP)
I finished farming my headhunter, everything is going right now.

it's simply not fun, and the overall balance is ass

campaign (apart from some maps) shows some promise but man the endgame is not fun to play

>>720320097
>Skill issue, minmax weapon can make like 90% of the skills do good damage
ftfy

>>720308451 (OP)
They still haven't be able to answer the question; "why does it need to exist?"

>>720320097
in the endgame maybe with a lot of investment. in acts? lmao

>>720308451 (OP)
>do the campaign
>most low level skills are utter do dogshit
>support gems are not only dogshit(even more now with the bullcrap tiers) but also scarce as fuck
Tell me, why should I put up with this shit for the 3rd time?

>>720320283
that's not an answer

>this skill needs specific conditions in order to use
>does 150% damage with 1.5 seconds cast time

>this skill you just hold down the button
>does 115% damage with 0.75 seconds cast time
whoever designed the skills are fucking retarded

>>720308451 (OP)
Boring
Not finished
Shitton of missing
Seasons while there is no finished acts lol
Endgame is boring dogshit on repeat

>>720308529
steam doesn't allow multiboxing.

>>720320880
You asked a very generic question? are we taking about bosses during the campaign? Maps? endgame pinnacle bosses? Are you on a fresh league start character, a twinked 2nd character? The answers going to depend on the situation

>>720318756
>Ummm having 90% of the gems/skills in the game be nothing but traps that waste your time is actually good game design!

>>720321386
>get a spectre of a monster i like
>130+spirit cost for one
>uninstall

>>720321279
what's the design philosophy think a boss fight should be in terms of length, it should remain consistent at any stage of the game

3 whole major updates and the useless skills are still useless
whats even the point of crossbow's ice shards skill

>>720308451 (OP)
Game was designed around two completely incompatible designed philosophies that are at odds with one another.

>>720321758
Obviously it’s to enable fragmentation shot ability to do massive damage, now ignore galvanic shards still being the best shotgun ammo type

It has committed the cardinal sin of all video game development.
It's boring.

>>720321609
>witch has great voice actress
>GGG gives her the shittiest lines

>>720308451 (OP)
>make combat that feels good and isn't too punishing
>make classes with combo effects
>add party friendly mechanics
I was really hoping this would be an actual game where you could have frontline party members and ranged or support classes to grind the fuck out of replayable content. Buffing teammates, comboing skills together, using lots of cool mechanics.

>>720321892
ice shards cant freeze for shit though

>>720308451 (OP)
Too much of the game is retarded bullet hell shit.
I want a game where I build a character that can survive what the game throws at me, not vibrate the keyboard like a korean doing 600 APM in order to dodge everything.

I had fun with Diablo 2 back in the day. But I'm not really interested in that genre anymore.
Select 2 skills to level up.
click
click
click
right-click
click
click
I have moved on to gacha games now.

>>720322021
A BYOOTIFUL MUHDAH

>GGG sees players having fun
>Holy fuck endgame must be too easy, they're running through maps
>Disregard the amount of work and time it took to get there to be able to do that in the first place

You know it's fucked up when you have to use another classes skill gems just to be remotely viable.

>>720322431
Just get a crossbow with 700 physical dps

>>720322556
use a controller

>12 days in
>not a single citadel on sight