Thread 720338530

Ghoulification seems like a relatively trivial way to achieve immortality (or at least a dramatically increased lifespan) - that alone should probably make it coveted, if only as a desperate Pascal's Wager decision ("if I bathe in this pile of radioactive barrels it might turn me into a ghoul or kill me via rad poisoning - but chances are I'll soon die of old age anyway"). And, hell, in 200 years chances are someone would have found the ghoulification-as-opposed-to-death catalyst factor. So what gives?

Aren't most of them mindless savages after being changed into a ghoul? It seems like the more sentient and reasonable ones are rare.

I don't want my balls to go all wrinkly

>>720338530 (OP)
Because nobody knows exactly how it works.
Do you blast yourself with radiation? Take small doses over a long period? Will you become a ghoul, or just die instantly? Maybe you'll die slowly and painfully as your internal organs liquify. You might just become a mutant. Will you even stay sane or go feral within a week?

>>720338530 (OP)
Im a lorelet but afaik it goes something like this.
>extremely low chance of becoming a ghoul
This means most people at near death probably die anyway, byt maybe it worked for .01% who tried it.
>immortality
IIRC there is supposed to be a problem where ghouls can go feral at any moment, which is why people didnt trust or like them. You never know when you're going to wake up and find out your neighbor turned rabid animal.
You also have the show canon which has ghouls have to drink some supposedly expensive or hard to get medicine every day, so now you're bound to another resource or you go feral too.
Ghouls also have a lot of lot of skin or health problems, and I imagine most sane people wouldnt want to turn into a hideous monster without a nose or penis.

>>720338878
>become a mutant
That's not from radiation. That requires the Master's special FEV brew.

>>720338970
Who's to say you haven't been exposed to FEV? I doubt all the mutant animals around the country came from the Master.

>>720339087
Oh. You meant mutant in a general sense and not mutant as in super mutant. My bad. I misunderstood.

>>720338530 (OP)
You'll either be treated like a second class citizen and be barred for the relative luxury of the early to mid 20th century living standards on the west coast. Or you'll more likely run the chance feral degradation at any point in time.

>>720338530 (OP)
The TV show is gay nonsense. Also most of the time you just die via radiation poisoning, or almost immediately go feral. Forced Evolutionary Virus, the sci fi maguffin of the setting caused random mutations resulting in some people having the latent possibility of becoming ghouls.

You don't "Know you'll die of old age soon." even with modern medicine, and you're living as a walking stinky corpse alienated by society with a major possibility of this alienation hastening feralization.

>>720338878
I mean, people know how it works. You get exposed to FEV, and radiation.

>>720338970
You also have regular mutations. FEV just does rapid extreme mutations.

>>720338884
Not according to the doctor in the Underworld. If ghouls were constantly getting infections from the open wound that is their skin, someone would have made some mention of it.

ghoulification in fallout is largely random bullshit. do youu have the "compatible biology?" were you blasted with not enough/too much/just right amount of radiation? will you be a leather face ghoul, a rotting carcass ghoul, or worse? will you end up feral or keep <random amount> of your true self? do you have access to tv show bullshit like "the elixir?"

Who is manufacturing the magical "ghoul no go feral" juice in the show? How can there still be non feral ghouls if that's how it works?

>>720338530 (OP)
>No ears
>No nose
>No skin (kinda)
>Sterile
>Cataracts/inky black doll eyes
>Likely to go insane if you're a pre-war ghoul
>Shunned by most humans
>Generally just look like a beef-jerky-covered skeleton
But hey at least you thrive in radiation and are immortal. Plus, there's like a 0.01% chance you might be a lucid Glowing One... for whatever that's worth.

>>720338530 (OP)
Ben Eldridge mogged Gog's rendition on ghoulification so much it's unreal. The old zombie version with the milky eyes was perfect and the shitty beef jerky look that Todd keeps pushing needs to fuck off and die.

The line between a normal, talking, calm ghoul and a full on feral, flesh eating ghoul is razor thing at best. Not to mention that finding a way to be turned into a ghoul without either crossing over into feral or just outright dying from radiation poisoning is also a tricky balance.

Add to it, ghouls are constantly discriminated against, treated like monsters by a large portion of society, and are still very much effected by age/natural degeneration. Parts falls off, flesh sloughs, and new mutations can occur.

Also? Not everyone wants to looks like a walking corpse. Tons of people would shy away just because of that factor.

>>720340181
>Ben Eldridge
What happened with Nuka Break again? I remember there was some big drama.

>>720338530 (OP)
Fallout generally had two versions of functional immortality they experimented with before Fallout 4 brought in the family from Boston who are just ageless for the sake of it.
>Brain jars ala Big MT and the cunt from Point Lookout
>Ghoulification
Then you have outliers in cryogenics, digital mind uploads, spooky shit involving the Not-Necronomicon, whatever was keeping the Ghost People in the Seirra Madre alive and by extension the spore carrier pathogens that you can find in the Zion Valley. 200 years after the original dwellers themselves hacked up what was left of their mushroom filled lungs.

>>720340354
The original dude was looking to start it up again trailing off the coat tails of the Amazon show. His attitude might've been soured when they stole his memes and ran them through AI before throwing it into some Fallout 76 marketing materials.

>>720340575
>for the sake of it
They're doing eldritch black magic shit. That stuff was established back in FO3.

>>720338530 (OP)
Because most of the time you die in agony.
Eventually you lose your mind and go feral. Some go feral sooner than others.

I wanted so that, at the time of the NV or the TV show. Most of the events of FEV and how it works and what happened are common knowledge. People were well on their way to rebuilding society before the Fallout even starts. Like it always felt like there was a pretty decent and convenient flow of information readily available. If not by the end of Fallout, but the time of 2's events, it most definitely was.

>>720340575
>for the sake of it.
Did you even play the game?

>>720338530 (OP)
No big dihh to fuck vault dweller girls with

>>720338530 (OP)
You can't eat. Your hair and teeth fall out. You smell like a corpse. Most of your organs are in a state of pseudo-decay. Your eyes are melting. You become sterile. Your soft extremities; ears, nose, genitals, some fingers and toes, fall off. You are constantly trapped in a cycle of sickness with a respite of the rads regenerating your mutated genes. You also run the chance of going feral.

There, I spoonfed you now go read lore next time you have a question.