>>720352584
they really retroactively made john the ultimate bitch in 2
>left his woman and child to be a deadbeat, came crawling back anyways and then couldn't decide whether he actually wanted it or not
>constantly fucking up, you get the impression he's not actually that good at being a gunslinger even in the epilogue
>shot/captured/mauled/cucked by arthur in his absence/held at knife point etc
>spits on arthur's sacrifice after a near-decade of shooting people and ignoring it anyway to go kill micah and lead ross right to his own front door
after playing rdr1 I'd say john was a good man and got his redemption, his son's poor choices be damned (for he had given him the choice to make)
after playing rdr2 I'd say john was a lucky retard who managed to outlast the others for arbitrary reasons and his son was fucked no matter what happened, it was all false hope from the start