Thread 721076606

How this will affect gamedev?

30 years ago: blendoooww
Now: WHAT THE FUCK IT'S WOKE NOW THEY RUINED IT WITH THEIR WOKENESS

>>721076606 (OP)
I've never owned a Blender or even thought about getting one before. Are they all just made by one company or something? Pretty boring name but I guess it's perfect for what they're selling

Blender will be going paid even before the seats cold

>Blender
More like this will affect the porn industry

I haven't touched blender for about 7-8 years, have they made it easier to pose/animate porn?

Not my /ss/ porn...

>>721076606 (OP)
>How this will affect gamedev?
Hopefully positively, I'm sick to death of every game using one of like 4 fucking engines. I miss when games felt different from each other instead of all dipping into the same pool of stock assets and features for their shitty cobbled together "games" that amount to recycled assets with a fancy coat of paint to make it look like it isn't a bunch of shit thats already in 5000 other games made in the last 3 years.

I hope I never have to play another game made in Blender, Unreal or Unity ever again

>>721077109
Blender isn't an engine, retard. It's like Max and Maya, it's a 3D modeling/animation tool

>>721076606 (OP)
I'm guessing Adobe and Autodesk will be able to charge a thousand bucks a day soon.

Better download the latest edition before it costs money

>>721077109
peak tech illiterate gibberish

>>721077109
You say this as if the shit the people on this board are nostalgic for used nothing but renderware

you can always stay at the current version of blender

>>721076606 (OP)
Isn't it open source?

>>721077109
Have you played a single Blender game? The Blender game engine was removed 6 years ago. You may be confusing it for something else.

>>721076606 (OP)
Time to download the last good versions before it goes to shit.

>>721077172
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_Game_Engine

>>721078436
>last good versions before it goes to shit
0.0.0

>>721078204
Open source doesn't mean free as in freedom.

>>721077109
this is why nobody takes gamer complaints seriously

>>721076606 (OP)
>Handing over your company of 30 years to a guy with a neck tattoo
Some people are so gullible

>>721078514
You have never played a game made with Blender's game engine, I promise you

>>721077241
this

it's gonna get assfucked

>>721076945
this
>premium subscriptions!

blender is just one of many 3d tools. if you're a vfx pro i guarantee you that you spend more time in houdini or maya.

>>721076606 (OP)
Archive the terms and conditions/terms of use now.
Download copies of all documentation and agreements now.
You just KNOW this is going to go south once management changes.

>>721078204
It's developed by a foundation.

Cool, so when is this new faggot going to change the logo so he can say "I existed"?

>>721076823
I'm not sure exactly what scenario you're imagining, but wokeness does regularly ruin things.

>>721076823
funniest /r/gamingcirclejerk migrant

>>721078960
Blender is not for professionals. It's for hobbyists. Hobbyists don't have many options because the real shit is prohibitively expensive.

>>721076606 (OP)
>women being put in charge
Enjoy your new TOS that says you can't make porn or do anything "offensive" yada yada yada.
>picrel is new head of operations
Holy shit what a catastrophe.

>>721078567
>t. rms
GPL encourages subversion and takeover of projects by corporations and their tranny underlings. Just look at modern Linux.

>>721079465
Look at the size of that snout.

>>721077109
smartest /v/ game engine whiner

>>721077172
I'll be honest when I first started typing my post I was thinking of Unity but by the time I realized my mistake it was too late and I had already written the post so I just sent it anyway because I don't get to say how sick I am of Unity games often enough.

>>721079465
There's been a big push to put women in charge of open source projects for a while now. To say it has been a disaster is an understatement. So many projects went to shit and corruption and embezzlement ran rampant.

>>721076606 (OP)
Blender had a CEO?
Anyway it's licensed as
>GPL-2.0 or later
so if anything happens people can just fork it.

>>721079407
if you have a job or side hussle then it pays itself

>>721076606 (OP)
hopefully it goes behind paywalls for less brown pedophile porn.

>>721079465
Blender will fall apart within 5 years.

>>721079820
>it's licensed as GPL-2.0 or later
for now.

>blender CEO
Unironically thought you were talking about this guy

>>721079832
Or you used to be able to save a lot of money by just using Blender.

>>721079984
>save a lot of money
A poor man thinking.
Time > money

>>721079407
>Blender is not for professionals.
How so?

>>721076823
>FPWP
You got the dud!

>>721077052
The 2.8 update from 6 years ago redesigned the UI and made it way easier for newcomers to get into.
The community has gotten a lot bigger since then and there are a lot more plugins that you can use now.

>>721080158
Same reason mspaint isn't for professionals.

>>721076606 (OP)
prepare for enshitification
it was good while it lasted bros

>>721076945
It's already a paid product if you want any functionality that actually work

>>721080384
I meant what specifically prevents Blender from being used by professionals? What features are missing?

>>721079865
You can't retroactively change the license, not without either the consent of all contributors to the Blender project, or by replacing the code contributed by people who don't agree with the relicensing.
And even then, you can't take away the rights of the people already in possession of the code, so they can fork it anyway.

>>721079407
it's kind of moot with paid plugins being rampant anyway, just like video editing

>>721076606 (OP)
>>721077109
>>721078102
Why hasn't /v/ watched picrel and learned it yet? You could literally make thousands every month on patreon.

>>721080463
This. Download 4.5 now and use it for life.

>>721080626
None, he's retarded.
The only things that might not be up to "professional" standard is the sculpting, it's not as good as it is in ZBrush.

>>721080626
go to the Blender Addon website and you'll find everything that it's missing.
Even basic shit like folders for key shapes or sculpting are not in after decades and billions of dollar of investment

>>721076606 (OP)
Blender's UI is a miracle of human engineering

>>721080773
The hard part is not posing and clicking the render button. Nobody is going to make thousands in patreon bucks doing that.

>>721080626
meh, it's always the same cope that blender doesn't have X-muscle or some other AAAA hollywood meme shit.

most of the features that pros love to use like onions keyframing and layers in blender texturing can be imitated with a combination of current features or using some addons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWc3b3KhnY

You could actually look at spring to see the results when professionals use blender.

Most of the real limitations of blender, like performance are being adressed by moving to vulkan.

>>721080240
That UI update was godly. The old UI looks ass in comparison.

>>721080626
For me, as a vfx artist, blender lacks proper vertex painting tools, especially the way to access different color channels. As of now, the only way to do this is to use an addon that works 50% of the time.

>>721080773
the market is saturated and theres alot of corporate agents who will strike you.

>>721081163
When you're talking about professionals you're talking about things like productivity. Blender is almost always slower.

>>721076606 (OP)
I need to backup 1,73 asap.

>>721077109
Anon... if you have no idea what blender is why did you post?

>>721081615
yes, but not all 3D artists are faggots doing hollywood AAA shit.

There's dozens of niches like NASA, or universities or advertising that doesn't need such speed.

You don't need AAAA features for le epic loli pantsu adventure in DLSite.

>>721076606 (OP)
how interesting last names, I wonder what's their ethnic background

>>721081740
This, just outsource everything to india

>>721077109
You are very dumb.

>>721079975
Don't breathe this

>>721081650
I already mentioned earlier that I had it mixed up with Unity when I started writing that post, realized my mistake by the time I was done writing it, but posted it anyway cause I dont' get to shit on how much I hate games made in unreal or unity often enough

>>721076606 (OP)
It wont. The pornslop industry on the other hand...

>>721082284
>PS6 lineup is going to be like

>>721080240
oh yeah I saw the UI update, it was amazing might be worthwhile to get back just for that
>a lot more plugins
no need to name things, but do you know if there are any specifically for making 3d porn?

I remember that rigs and meshes never worked really well together unless you fucked around a lot, I'm assuming that they have fixed such issues? (maybe this was just me lol)

>>721081759
Thankfully, he's not a Jeet.

>>721082645
That's 5 more games than the ps6 will have at launch

>>721081280
As far as general use goes, the only real benefits of the new UI was just not using full menu-bar space on each viewport (more real-estate to work with), and making the god damn menu on the Properties viewport vertical, so you're not needing mousewheel it frequently like you used to.

EEVEE was the actual godly update, followed by whatever major version added Geometry Nodes.

>>721082986
ok Schlomo.

>>721083165
>geometry nodes
I'm too retarded to understand how to use this. It's almost on the same level as shader wizardry to me.

>dutchman replaced by slavshit jews and "italians" (more jews)

it's over.

>>721083472
Unironically this.

>>721077109
you're a retard. stop expressing your opinion about things.

>>721083438
I mostly just use them like advanced array modifiers at this point, or situations that would have required the particle system in pre-Geometry Node times. I do need to look up how you can use it to seed random numbers for shit such as automating buildings from a series of modular prefabs, since I have a project coming up that could use it.

>>721077109
this is the type of person who complains about UE5, fucking smooth brain.
>>721078514
>Blender_Game_Engine
that's a legacy feature from 2.x
>>721079407
blender is literally the best full stack 3D package, nothing compares to it. zbrush might be ahead in sculpting workflow, and maya slightly ahead in rigging/animation out of the box, but blender is full stack and nothing else comes close. the only reason it's not industry standard is because 3ds max and maya are so ingrained and studios are too lazy to uproot their archaic pipelines. a lot of newer studios choose blender, and even then established studios are making the switch as it becomes even more feature rich with each iteration. to call it hobbyist is ignorant as fuck.

why do so many people here larp as experts when they're absolute complete fucking dumbass consumers. it's embarrassing to see.

>>721083438
the only practical use for that shit is like a chain of modifiers.

You can't still do full modelling with it, but you can do stuff like make a low poly model then instance a third mesh in every vertex, so is useful for things like grass.

Or another use would be to edit an already existing mesh and generate variations of like width and height.

For character generation is not very useful yet, except as sliders to change limbs lenghts.

Most of the cherrypicked results don't use the geometry nodes for 100%, but more as a type of procedural shader nodes to edit the meshes.

>>721084138
>are so ingrained and studios are too lazy to uproot their archaic pipelines
Problem is a lot of projects run 3-5 years, and time is money, and a lot of software does not play nice with one another in the pipeline, which VFX studios are incorporating a lot of these days. You'd have to train your staff, and have technical staff handy to write up any plugins necessary to get shit working the way your other programs expect for interacting together.

Or you can just keep throwing tens of thousands of dollars on Maya licenses for the team.

>>721076606 (OP)
I would totally pay $500 for a 3D modelling program that never connects to the internet and has zero customer support and just works.
I will not pay for SAAS-slop $30/month bullshit spyware 3D modelling "app" with Indian customer support, ever, never ever.

>>721084138
>>721083680
I accept your criticism, I just wanna say that I already explained myself. I just woke up and had a brainfart thinking I was talking about Unity, and by the time I finished writing the post it was too late but I posted it anyway cause I don't get to bitch about how much I hate Unity and Unreal often enough

I'm aware that blender isn't a game engine, but I was too eager too shit on people using prebaked slop engines that I figured I'd just be wrong and angry instead of trying to rewrite the post in a way that was still on topic for a blender thread.

I don't actually have any strong feelings for or against blender, I just slept poorly and I hate living in this era of games being slapped together using engine presets for different stock genres and a shitload of generic shit from an asset store.

I may be stupid and wrong, but I just wanted to clarify what kind of stupid and wrong I was

>>721084138
To expand
Its not standard for animation studios (pixar an shit) because they need to be ablke to implement new features immediately and its faster to do it with their own than wait, plugins dont give the same control - or so I've heard

>>721076606 (OP)
It's over. Pack your bags. Time to find a new free 3D modeling software

>>721083472
>implying the dutch are not superjews themselves
lol

>>721076606 (OP)
>blender will still remain open source
>blender will still have the same license
>blender will still have the same development team and its contributors
it wont

>>721084357
it's not about training with software. an individual artist can easily make the switch within a week, most artists who work with maya are already familiar with blender.
the issue is with the pipeline, the studio will have proprietary tools, assets that use specific formats, and custom bridges with things like render farms. not to mention the long term business relationships with autodesk, and the execs will view any drastic change as a potential risk even if it'll save money in the long term.

>>721084651
you disappoint me. do better next time.

>>721079407
>"lol you use FL studio and Ableton? sorry but professionals use REAL DAWs like Logic and pro tools and cubase (all the $900 versions)"
its nice to see that this retarded line of thinking just applies to every digital art form. "industry standard" is fucking retarded, if it gets the job done thats all that matters

>>721085079
I'm sorry anon, I've had my coffee and I'm not as mentally scrambled as I was earlier so I shouldn't make the same sorta mistake.
Please forgive me, I just wanted to be angry about Unreal Engine and Unity being slop enablers

>>721080773
i did but then i ended up liking it enough to just learn to make regular models that arent made specifically for porn

>>721085368
I get the same shit when I tell people I use KDenLive to edit videos instead of paying for the adobe suite subscription or some shit, even though KDenLive is basically just FFMPEG with a fancy UI wrapper and Audacity functions smashed together and it does almost all of the same shit the big software does

>>721085534
How is Kdenlive these days? I remember using it for some small videos 5 years ago but it crashed too often on Windows for my liking.

>>721084958
>an individual artist can easily make the switch within a week
It takes far, far longer than a week to get extremely proficient with any productivity software, even when transferable skills are involved.

Any Maya animator is going to run into a lot of headaches making the shift to Blender.

>get into blender
>making models of mostly real/pre-existing things
>come to the realization that i am not having fun just copying blueprints for hours on end
>but have zero creative juices so i can't think of anything original to make

>>721085503
cute candice

>>721085821
>How is Kdenlive these days? I remember using it for some small videos 5 years ago but it crashed too often on Windows for my liking.
Tbh it still has a weird crashing bug, I don't think I've experienced it as much recently, but for as long as I can remember its done this weird shit where if I try to import a clip with a resolution it hasn't dealt with before and I tried to create a profile for that resolution and framerate it would crash and I'd have to start it up again, but then it would work fine. Just for whatever reason it really doesn't like that first time that you would try to import something with a funky new aspect ratio/framerate.

I recently built a new computer and installed a fresh copy of it though, and while I haven't been using it a tonne I don't recall having that issue since switching to my new PC.

So I dunno if the issue was with me using an out of date version of the software and if I would have updated then the bug would have been patched but I was too lazy to install updates, or if it was an issue with my hardware being too weak and it was just an issue of me trying to do shit my computer wasn't all that great at doing.

Either way, it works great, but yeah despite liking the software the thing with it crashing the first time I try to start working on a video is a bit irritating and now that you've mentioned it I'll be keeping an eye out for that issue when I use it on this new rig.

>>721076606 (OP)
>Cohen

>>721085731
lol

>>721082221
It's truly a sight when legitimate retards like you post in this shithole website.

>>721086816
Cut me some slack I just woke up when I made the post. It was just a brainfart and I was too eager to ramble about slop enabling engines to delete the post after writing it

>>721086985
It's okay anon, now go back to hate Unreal and Unity as a whole instead of its fundamental problems(that you don't know about)

>>721076606 (OP)
Blender died and Sergei couldn't fix that damn multires modifier
it's like Miura and Berserk all over again
>>721086240
>Cohen
you cant be serious. it has never been more over

>>721087215
>now go back to hate Unreal and Unity as a whole instead of its fundamental problems(that you don't know about)
I never claimed to know about the specifics, I don't really care enough to know about them I just know that almost every game I play that runs on these engines feels bad to play for both obvious and subtle reasons and I remember not having this issue back when almost every studio wasn't using the same engine

>>721076606 (OP)
Most AAA still aren't using it. The current state of Blender is more than good enough for most indie's needs, so it doesn't matter if the software goes downhill from v5.0 onwards.

>>721086985
Generally you're supposed to ignore someone trying to bait further responses out of you once you've supplied an excuse/reason for a derp.

>>721088568
>The current state of Blender is more than good enough for most indie's needs
... i they buy as gorillon of addons because the devs have been incredibly busy redoing the fucking ui for the nth time
feel free to post your work + addons list to prove me wrong tho

>>721088568
>Generally you're supposed to ignore someone trying to bait further responses out of you once you've supplied an excuse/reason for a derp.
I'm anonymous anyway, I don't really care if I look a bit dumb for making a mistake, I ain't got anything to hide on here.

>>721081494
>the market is saturated
depends, I would say loli market could use a bunch of new artists

>>721080773
I used to be a decent futa porn animator but i stoped making content the moment i got bored of it, i cant end anything because i lose interest after i coom once.

there's gonna be a fork as soon as they start shitting the bed.
feels like blender could completely stop active development right now and be fine for years to come anyways.

>>721089495
thats a tightrope of a thing that could put you in trouble nowadays

>>721077109
Average ESL tech illiterate shitposter complaining about game engines.

>>721089495
That only works if you're an Asian living in Asia.

>>721076606 (OP)
>women
shit's fucked.

>>721089795
A dealer should never partake in his own product

>>721089795
How can you not be inspired after seeing something from Nyl? Keep going Anon! Maybe make games (with a small scope) or more elaborate scenes/plot

For retards who's afraid of blender going paid: it's GPL licensed.

Soon

Blender is so cool

>>721090915
and the funny thing is that a lot of the codebase to change being GPL would require all programmers to give up the license, which nobody can do, because some of those are dead.

>>721090915
GPL wouldn't stop them from forking it and doing closed commits to that instead of the 'main' project.

>>721090770
i dont like nyl stuff that much, i do like his lighting and models but thats kind of it.

>>721092247
You can't legally fork a GPL project to make it non GPL.

>>721091212
what was the case with audacity?

>>721092546
Fair, I like how he makes scenes that make "sense", like you know it is going somewhere, it's not just straight up sex. The Bordello series being my favorite.

>>721079407
Shalom!

I'm mostly surprised Blender hasn't tried to push out their own service for license-free assets. Common configurable materials, brushes, generic props, etc. We have add-ons to access libraries (some paid) from other sources, but nothing in an official capacity.

>>721080068
I can't think of any other 3d software that lets you do hard surface modeling as fast as Blender does.

>>721080825
>Even basic shit like folders for key shapes or sculpting are not in after decades and billions of dollar of investment
I am STILL fucking baffled that our Blender Scene and Bones got Collection systems added, but Shape Keys remain woefully limited without add-ons. Can't even fucking drag'n'drop them to better organize things, gotta mash that Up-arrow 20 times. That and vertex groups, just do them both at the same time so I can arrange them in an Armature Hierarchy manner.

>>721090928
kek

>>721090928
>quietly abandons it in a year in favor of making Maya take another 20s to boot up

>>721076606 (OP)
It won't affect gamedev in the slightest. I could see some improvement in offline rendering by including more industry standards, easy arnold, redshift integration.

>>721077109
immaculate bait

>>721076606 (OP)
> COO switches roles with CFO

lmao, its same people only now someone else gets to make millions while the software stagnates and gets 0 valuable updates

>>721080240
shame it was the last update worth anything

>>721078102
where can i watch sfm of this girl?