Thread 721168816

Too much of a departure or actually kino?

Better than Blood Money honestly

Hyperludo.

>>721168816 (OP)
is the hitman franchise worth getting into

New /v/ opinion downloaded

>>721168973
the new trilogy is a fun puzzle game, tons of things to unlock

>>721168973
Nu-Hitman sucks

>>721168973
Blood Money and World of Assassination trilogy are really fun games and definitely worth a try. Can't say much about the rest.

>>721168973
the absolute insane thing about being alive today is that you can just pirate games and try them out for yourself!!

tit head

>>721169294
Umm piracy is stealing you sweety hope this helps

>>721168967
>trashy street but asian

>>721169518
>getting mugged by man, black :|
>getting mugged by man, asian :0

>>721169294
a piratefag walks into a bar. we know this because he told everyone within five minutes

>>721169294
When piracy removes the financial cost of games, the new currency to spend becomes the time you can spend on video games themselves. No one's going to even pirate a game if they can't be sure it'll be worth the time.

I'm playing the first game and it's painful, used the console to skip a some levels after a few tries

>>721169518
The level takes place in Chicago, though.

>>721170198
The first game was them trying to figure out what they wanted to do with the series.

The others have aged better because they actually have a clear direction.

>>721170198
Pussy
the only levels that are total dogshit are Massacre at the Cheung Chau Fish Restaurant and Plutonium Runs Loose

>>721170198
why not just follow the mission stories at that point

>>721170368
nevermind, thought i was in a nutrilogy thread

>>721170231
Yes, the chinatown of chicago I.e. asian street

>>721170439
Nope, that's the previous mission.

>>721170351
>no mention of Jungle King and Say Hello to My Little Friend

Santa Fortuna in Nu-Man feels like an apology for C47’s jungle levels, since it combines elements from all of them, but does them better.

>>721170351
I skipped the first and third colombia levels, trial and error approach and no mid-mission saves are fine but not when the level involves minutes of just running back and forth
the fish restaurant was fine

>>721170198
C47 REALLY needed a save mid-mission option. One fuckup and you have to restart hours of progress, that's some nonsensical design.

>>721169426
lol
>>721170025
>No one's going to even pirate a game if they can't be sure it'll be worth the time.
>if they can't be sure
I'm sure asking a bunch of retards on the internet is a better way to find out if it's worth it or not than trying itself
>buy on steam
>get 2 hour refund period to try the game
there, your monetary bullshit is also null now

>inb4 more retarded bait

>>721170651
The first two Colombia levels are too short to matter and third one is actually based and the only problem with it is the shitty spawn point

>>721170673
fish restaurant sucks because of the crappy scripting where the guards automatically go on alert if you climb through the bathroom window even if they don't see you do it

>>721168816 (OP)
It's kino, way better than the new gaas trilogy.
At least it's an actual video game.

>>721170818
There is no C47 level that takes even 20 minutes to complete (granted the Lee Hong Assassination came close), let alone hours

>>721170818
>hours of progress
the missions are like 15 minutes max

Do you think C47 and Absolution would benefit from remakes?

They were always the black sheeps of the series due to being quite flawed afterall, and much of Absolution’s plot was straight up retconned in WoA, so it’d be interesting to see what the “canon” version of the Absolution plot is.

>>721170984
>CN47
The good levels have already been remade in Contracts.
>Absolution
It would require a complete rewrite since 47 keeps acting out-of-character and fucks up way too much.

>>721170523
Well I will just double down and move the goalposts

>>721168816 (OP)
The contrarian's choice.

>>721168973
Yes.

Start with the original Hitman: Agent 47. It's not for everyone, but some people like it. If you really can't stand it and it then just skip it to Silent Assassin where the series finally picks up and figures itself out. You get Hitman: Codename 47 explained to you in Contracts anyway so it's not big deal if you aren't a fan of the original and just want to go on to the next one.

>>721168816 (OP)
It is both somehow. the game is pretty good and fun but the character fucks up too much and the vibes don't really fit the games. it is also really hard to finish levels with the suit only without cheesing. at least this is what i remember from it.

also that one animation
https://youtu.be/hfYRfpaBwnc

>>721170984
c47 sure but absolution would only benefit from higher res textures and maybe updating a couple of the models which could honestly be a mod

DONT talk to me if you haven't played Silent Assassin and Contracts

>>721171165
>You get Hitman: Codename 47 explained to you in Contracts anyway
You don't though
Game starts with 47 killing Ortmeyer and there's no context for why he's doing that
Then you get the remade C47 levels later on and it doesn't mention any of the targets' connection to 47 or each other, and of course Columbia is completely missing in Contracts, and therefore so is Ochoa, one of 47's fathers

>>721169518
Bro saw an english word in bright neon lighting and thought asia

>>721171081
Absolution probably wouldn’t be too hard to rewrite, since most of his out of character moments come from his interactions with Victoria. Redo those, and you could keep the plot mostly the same, especially with the retcon revealing that Travis’ cell was a rogue ICA cell and the fact that the assassinations and targets are still canon.

>>721169518
lmao what a self-own

>*47 walks into restricted area with 50 guards staring at him*
>*tips hat causing everyone to become blind*
10 out of 10 would tip hat again.

>>721168973
Play Contracts and Bloodmoney then play the new games.

Why would I want the older games remade like the nuslop sandbox4smallcocks

>>721168816 (OP)
I did not care for the sleazy tonal shift that was most likely to coincide with 47 sharing a universe with Kane and Lynch.

>>721171702
because the alternative is 007 second and third light for the next decade

>>721170025
You're a neet, you have a near infinite amount of time.

>>721171541
I’m glad they nerfed instinct in the new games to just being a glorified real time map. Although something I find interesting is that Absolution’s instinct system is returning in 007: First Light as a bluffing mechanic when detected.

>>721171349
Hey anon, should i pl-
>DONT talk to me if you haven't played Silent Assassin and Contracts
okay then :(

>>721170231
He may have mistaken for the China mission in Hitman 3.

>Amendment XXV
>No bodies found
>No witnesses
>Killed Parchezzi with a single headshot and otherwise fired no shots
>Only killed targets
>Left with suit
>Rating: Professional
Why

>>721171982
Did you steal the videotape? It's in the first part of the level, which is very counter-intuitive.

>>721171960
Nah, he probably mistook it for the King of Chinatown level, which is the level just before Terminus.

Silent Assassin is the best shit on the planet and I won't be convinced otherwise.

>>721172037
Yes I did, was never caught on camera

>>721172280
Genuinely what were they thinking with this level? Why is it even in the game?

>>721172335
Weird. One other possibillity is you not retrieving your own guns. You did take everything back with you, didn't you?

>>721172280
This is where I stopped playing. Also in one of the previous levels the AI had some really inconsistent psychic abilities

>>721172335
Similar things have happened to me on Amendment before.

My only guess is that maybe someone found the body of the janitor that Parchezzi knocks out to take his janitor uniform from, and maybe that body is bugged. Getting SA is definitely possible though.

>>721172467
Yes, I retrieved my guns
Does it count against me if I go through the metal detector while exiting in my suit? That's the only thing I can figure

>>721171836
I wish they'd get rid of it and replace it with vague visualizations of sounds and force you to look through key holes and shit like that instead of having full blown x ray vision. Also bring back people waking up and change the AI so people notice when someone disappears so you can't just leisurely stroll through the entire level with no worries. They can put these things on professional mode exclusively if they think thats too much for people to handle.

>>721171541
What happens when his hat-tipping meter burns out? Does a gust of wind blow his headwear off and expose his baldy head?

>>721171945
Yes, play Contracts, it's based and basically the only bad thing I can say about it is that the Byarkhov Bomb is a little railroaded and that remade version of the Lee Hong Assassination doesn't improve on the original (though it's not really worse either)
Silent Assassin is a bit more iffy, a lot more of its missions feel railroaded and even arguably its best mission (Basement Killing) gives you a bunch of ways of dealing with your target, all of which are objectively worse than one specific way, not to mention how the game makes you slowly walk around everywhere while disguised

>>721172280
I gave up at At the Gates

>>721168816 (OP)
The last actual Hitman

>>721173150
>Does a gust of wind blow his headwear off and expose his baldy head?
No and now I'm mad that doesn't happen.

>>721169518
KEK RENT FREE

Did WoA never add a suit that was based on Contracts? All the other games have suits based on disguises from them in WoA but I don't recognize any from Contracts unless the ones that were also in C47 are supposed to count
I want to walk around Dartmoor in the hunter's robes from Beldingford Manor, dammit

>Decide to finally give WoA a fair try
>get the pirated peacock for all dlc too and playing offline
>master mode is fucking hard to do SA/SO
>we removed the requirement for master mode to do the challenges in Hitman 3

Not sure how I feel desu

>>721174424
I bought the game and it's how the actual game is doing things too now.
It won't matter in the end anyway, Freelancer is harder than playing on Master. No restarting or savescumming your way through it, you just gotta git gud

>>721174735
I actually did my first showdown on alerted to see what would happen

It's New York. My go to. I was utterly fucked from the start

>>721175210
That is based on C47 though, it's in the fucking name, and if that isn't enough, they use the C47 mission names for the challenges for unlocking it too ("Explosions Run Loose" and not "Deadly Cargo," "The Setup" and not "Asylum Aftermath" etc)

>>721168816 (OP)
Most important thing to me is that this game was made with love.

>>721175434
shit you're right, eating soup so attention divided between you and crackers

that'll do 'er

It mixed some good ideas with some bad ideas which stuck in people's memory. WoA improved implementation of the good ideas. RIP latex-wearing assassin nuns...you didn't manage to make your way in to WoA.

>>721175639
Must've missed this one, thank you
Didn't really recognize it as the disguise from Contracts since it looks quite different
A shame we couldn't get more than one for Contracts, but I guess the Red Dragon outfit works for it too.

>>721172184
Silent Assasin has the best atmosphere and worldbuilding, for zoomers intrigued, its 150% on the VIBE CHECK
I fucking love silent assassin contracts blood money
Nu hitman having no memorable music is fucking atrocious

>>721177228
I mean you say that, but Silent Assassin's only memorable track is 47 makes a decision, Contracts only has Winter Night, and BM has no memorable tracks at all unless you count the diagetic opera singing in Curtains Down

>>721177809
Nigga, are you serious?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elERKB4D3Hs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBw5NVTVYsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK5nFTQXbfY

>>721177809
>BM has no memorable tracks at all
wtf

>>721177809
>BM has no memorable tracks at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK5nFTQXbfY&pp=ygUWYmxvb2QgbW9uZXkgYXBvY2FseXBzZQ%3D%3D


I’d also say that WoA’s soundtrack has grown on me, even if it isn’t quite Kyd tier.

>>721177809
Blood Money is full of them. Vegas is my favourite

>>721177809
>Silent Assassin's only memorable track is 47 makes a decision

>>721178375
It doesn't matter because if we're talking soundtrack, none of the other games even come close to Codename 47
https://youtu.be/J4ossube1m4

nuHitman is good, but it's too gamey. It burns me out playing it like grinding but that isn't what I'm doing. The series really lost something moving away from linear story form. They weren't even "good" stories they just carried a video game very well, start to finish. I replay silent assassin to blood money every now and then and it feels nice.

>>721178561
I like most of what Jesper Kyd's done. Whether you prefer his work on C47 or Blood Money I still think the series lost a lot when they got rid of him. Same thing happened with Asscreed, I think his music really carried 1 and 2 for me back in the day. I hate that he has mostly faded into obscurity after that (though I know he's done soundtracks for vermrat and shopclick)

>>721178579
But WoA has a linear story. It’s only the bonus missions and Freelancer that are completely isolated contracts without a larger overarching narrative.

It’s up to you if you want to spend hundreds of hours going for 100% completion.

>>721178935
The presentation just isn't on the same level. Understandably as it wasn't the focus. They went hard on gameplay and absolutely succeeded

>>721168973
Blood Money and Contracts are both fantastic games. Play those, if you like them you can try out the World of Assassination games (with the hint system turned off) or Hitman 1 and 2. Just avoid Absolution entirely. It's probably going to become a meme of here to claim it was always good, but the game sucks and isn't even really a Hitman game.

Aren't we due a new roadmap on Monday or are they finally gonna drop WoA for bondshit